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Janet Bostwick 16-02-2005 04:58 AM

chocolate question
 
Can I substitute chipped chocolate from a piece of one of those 15 pound
blocks of Ghirarardelli for chocolate chips in a recipe? I don't have
enough chocolate chips for a candy recipe where the chips are melted, but I
do have a piece of the other chocolate. Thanks
Janet



Wayne Boatwright 16-02-2005 05:02 AM

On Tue 15 Feb 2005 09:58:39p, Janet Bostwick wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Can I substitute chipped chocolate from a piece of one of those 15 pound
> blocks of Ghirarardelli for chocolate chips in a recipe? I don't have
> enough chocolate chips for a candy recipe where the chips are melted,
> but I do have a piece of the other chocolate. Thanks
> Janet


Absolutely! The Original Toll House Cookies were made with chopped
chocolate. There were no chocolate chips at that time, as they were invented
after the increasing popularity of the cookie.

Not that it matters that much, but is your Ghirardelli chocolate bittersweet
or milk chocolate?

Wayne


Janet Bostwick 16-02-2005 05:39 AM


"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue 15 Feb 2005 09:58:39p, Janet Bostwick wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> Can I substitute chipped chocolate from a piece of one of those 15 pound
>> blocks of Ghirarardelli for chocolate chips in a recipe? I don't have
>> enough chocolate chips for a candy recipe where the chips are melted,
>> but I do have a piece of the other chocolate. Thanks
>> Janet

>
> Absolutely! The Original Toll House Cookies were made with chopped
> chocolate. There were no chocolate chips at that time, as they were
> invented
> after the increasing popularity of the cookie.
>
> Not that it matters that much, but is your Ghirardelli chocolate
> bittersweet
> or milk chocolate?
>
> Wayne
>

Thanks, Wayne. I thought the melting properties were the same but I had
something niggling in my mind from some Cook's Illustrated article I read
years ago and I just didn't feel comfortable until I checked with someone.
This hunk is semi-sweet chocolate. I wanted to make another batch of
Rachael Ray's Christmas 'Fudge.' Definitely not a real fudge, but it
reminds me of that little candy bar you used to be able to buy--about 1 1/2
inches square by 3/4 inch high, wrapped in foil and it was chocolate,
raisins and cashews--can't remember the name of it. I made substitutions
to the recipe with that candy bar in mind. Here's the recipe

Five-Minute Fudge Wreath
Recipe courtesy Rachael Ray
Ingredients
1 (12-ounce) bag semisweet chocolate morsels
9 ounces (3/4 of a 12-ounce bag) butterscotch morsels
1 (14-ounce) can sweetened condensed milk
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
1 (8-ounce) can walnut halves
1/2 cup (a couple of handfuls) currants

8-inch cake pan, lightly greased with softened butter
Candied cherries, red and green, for garnish, optional

Directions
Place a heavy pot on the stove and preheat it over low heat. Add chips and
milk and stir
until chips are melted and milk combined. Save the empty condensed milk can.
Stir in vanilla and remove fudge from heat.
Add nuts and currants and stir in immediately.

Janet





D.Currie 16-02-2005 06:08 AM


"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue 15 Feb 2005 09:58:39p, Janet Bostwick wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> Can I substitute chipped chocolate from a piece of one of those 15 pound
>>> blocks of Ghirarardelli for chocolate chips in a recipe? I don't have
>>> enough chocolate chips for a candy recipe where the chips are melted,
>>> but I do have a piece of the other chocolate. Thanks
>>> Janet

>>
>> Absolutely! The Original Toll House Cookies were made with chopped
>> chocolate. There were no chocolate chips at that time, as they were
>> invented
>> after the increasing popularity of the cookie.
>>
>> Not that it matters that much, but is your Ghirardelli chocolate
>> bittersweet
>> or milk chocolate?
>>
>> Wayne
>>

> Thanks, Wayne. I thought the melting properties were the same but I had
> something niggling in my mind from some Cook's Illustrated article I read
> years ago and I just didn't feel comfortable until I checked with someone.
> This hunk is semi-sweet chocolate. I wanted to make another batch of
> Rachael Ray's Christmas 'Fudge.' Definitely not a real fudge, but it
> reminds me of that little candy bar you used to be able to buy--about 1
> 1/2 inches square by 3/4 inch high, wrapped in foil and it was chocolate,
> raisins and cashews--can't remember the name of it. I made substitutions
> to the recipe with that candy bar in mind. Here's the recipe
>
> Five-Minute Fudge Wreath
> Recipe courtesy Rachael Ray
> Ingredients
> 1 (12-ounce) bag semisweet chocolate morsels
> 9 ounces (3/4 of a 12-ounce bag) butterscotch morsels
> 1 (14-ounce) can sweetened condensed milk
> 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
> 1 (8-ounce) can walnut halves
> 1/2 cup (a couple of handfuls) currants
>
> 8-inch cake pan, lightly greased with softened butter
> Candied cherries, red and green, for garnish, optional
>
> Directions
> Place a heavy pot on the stove and preheat it over low heat. Add chips and
> milk and stir
> until chips are melted and milk combined. Save the empty condensed milk
> can. Stir in vanilla and remove fudge from heat.
> Add nuts and currants and stir in immediately.
>
> Janet
>


Was that the Chunky bar?



Janet Bostwick 16-02-2005 06:13 AM


"D.Currie" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue 15 Feb 2005 09:58:39p, Janet Bostwick wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> Can I substitute chipped chocolate from a piece of one of those 15
>>>> pound
>>>> blocks of Ghirarardelli for chocolate chips in a recipe? I don't have
>>>> enough chocolate chips for a candy recipe where the chips are melted,
>>>> but I do have a piece of the other chocolate. Thanks
>>>> Janet
>>>
>>> Absolutely! The Original Toll House Cookies were made with chopped
>>> chocolate. There were no chocolate chips at that time, as they were
>>> invented
>>> after the increasing popularity of the cookie.
>>>
>>> Not that it matters that much, but is your Ghirardelli chocolate
>>> bittersweet
>>> or milk chocolate?
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>

>> Thanks, Wayne. I thought the melting properties were the same but I had
>> something niggling in my mind from some Cook's Illustrated article I read
>> years ago and I just didn't feel comfortable until I checked with
>> someone. This hunk is semi-sweet chocolate. I wanted to make another
>> batch of Rachael Ray's Christmas 'Fudge.' Definitely not a real fudge,
>> but it reminds me of that little candy bar you used to be able to
>> buy--about 1 1/2 inches square by 3/4 inch high, wrapped in foil and it
>> was chocolate, raisins and cashews--can't remember the name of it. I
>> made substitutions to the recipe with that candy bar in mind. Here's the
>> recipe
>>
>> Five-Minute Fudge Wreath
>> Recipe courtesy Rachael Ray
>> Ingredients
>> 1 (12-ounce) bag semisweet chocolate morsels
>> 9 ounces (3/4 of a 12-ounce bag) butterscotch morsels
>> 1 (14-ounce) can sweetened condensed milk
>> 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
>> 1 (8-ounce) can walnut halves
>> 1/2 cup (a couple of handfuls) currants
>>
>> 8-inch cake pan, lightly greased with softened butter
>> Candied cherries, red and green, for garnish, optional
>>
>> Directions
>> Place a heavy pot on the stove and preheat it over low heat. Add chips
>> and milk and stir
>> until chips are melted and milk combined. Save the empty condensed milk
>> can. Stir in vanilla and remove fudge from heat.
>> Add nuts and currants and stir in immediately.
>>
>> Janet
>>

>
> Was that the Chunky bar?

I think that's it! Thanks. I hate it when something so trivial nags at my
mind.
Janet



nancree 16-02-2005 06:32 AM

Your recipe says:
"Save the empty condensed milk can".
Why? Did I miss something?

Directions
Place a heavy pot on the stove and preheat it over low heat. Add chips
and
milk and stir
until chips are melted and milk combined. Save the empty condensed milk
can.
Stir in vanilla and remove fudge from heat.
Add nuts and currants and stir in immediately. "
--------------------------

Nancree


Janet Bostwick 16-02-2005 06:48 AM


"nancree" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Your recipe says:
> "Save the empty condensed milk can".
> Why? Did I miss something?
>
> Directions
> Place a heavy pot on the stove and preheat it over low heat. Add chips
> and
> milk and stir
> until chips are melted and milk combined. Save the empty condensed milk
> can.
> Stir in vanilla and remove fudge from heat.
> Add nuts and currants and stir in immediately. "
> --------------------------
>
> Nancree
>

Sorry, I just copied the recipe from the Food Network site. Originally,
this candy is made in a round pan with the milk can in the center--this
makes the wreath shape that is referred to in the recipe title. I just
ignored the wreath suggestion and made it in the usual pan.
Janet



Hahabogus 16-02-2005 11:30 AM

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in
:

> until chips are melted and milk combined. Save the empty condensed
> milk can.
>


What do you need the empty can for?

--
No Bread Crumbs were hurt in the making of this Meal.
Type 2 Diabetic 1AC 5.6mmol or 101mg/dl
Continuing to be Manitoban

jmcquown 16-02-2005 11:37 AM

Hahabogus wrote:
> "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in
> :
>
>> until chips are melted and milk combined. Save the empty condensed
>> milk can.
>>

>
> What do you need the empty can for?


She answered this question in a prior post. Originally the "fudge" was
designed to be shaped like a wreath so you put the can in the middle to
create a hole in the center.

Jill



Hahabogus 16-02-2005 11:40 AM

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in
:

>
> "nancree" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > Your recipe says:
> > "Save the empty condensed milk can".
> > Why? Did I miss something?
> >
> > Directions
> > Place a heavy pot on the stove and preheat it over low heat. Add
> > chips and
> > milk and stir
> > until chips are melted and milk combined. Save the empty condensed
> > milk can.
> > Stir in vanilla and remove fudge from heat.
> > Add nuts and currants and stir in immediately. "
> > --------------------------
> >
> > Nancree
> >

> Sorry, I just copied the recipe from the Food Network site.
> Originally, this candy is made in a round pan with the milk can in
> the center--this makes the wreath shape that is referred to in the
> recipe title. I just ignored the wreath suggestion and made it in
> the usual pan. Janet
>
>


I think I'll use peanuts and cashews in smaller heart shaped molds and
give them out come next valintines day.

--
No Bread Crumbs were hurt in the making of this Meal.
Type 2 Diabetic 1AC 5.6mmol or 101mg/dl
Continuing to be Manitoban

Wayne Boatwright 16-02-2005 12:18 PM

On Tue 15 Feb 2005 10:39:55p, Janet Bostwick wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue 15 Feb 2005 09:58:39p, Janet Bostwick wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> Can I substitute chipped chocolate from a piece of one of those 15
>>> pound blocks of Ghirarardelli for chocolate chips in a recipe? I
>>> don't have enough chocolate chips for a candy recipe where the chips
>>> are melted, but I do have a piece of the other chocolate. Thanks
>>> Janet

>>
>> Absolutely! The Original Toll House Cookies were made with chopped
>> chocolate. There were no chocolate chips at that time, as they were
>> invented after the increasing popularity of the cookie.
>>
>> Not that it matters that much, but is your Ghirardelli chocolate
>> bittersweet or milk chocolate?
>>
>> Wayne
>>

> Thanks, Wayne. I thought the melting properties were the same but I
> had
> something niggling in my mind from some Cook's Illustrated article I
> read years ago and I just didn't feel comfortable until I checked with
> someone. This hunk is semi-sweet chocolate. I wanted to make another
> batch of Rachael Ray's Christmas 'Fudge.' Definitely not a real fudge,
> but it reminds me of that little candy bar you used to be able to
> buy--about 1 1/2 inches square by 3/4 inch high, wrapped in foil and it
> was chocolate, raisins and cashews--can't remember the name of it. I
> made substitutions to the recipe with that candy bar in mind. Here's
> the recipe.


< recipe snipped for brevity>

Janet, that would be a "Chunky" candy bar. I haven't seen them in stores in
years, but they are still made and available online. At the time, that was
one of my favorite candy bars. They also introduced a version with pecans
instead of peanuts, but I don't think that one is available anymore.

Thanks for posting the recipe. Are you substituting more chocolate in place
of the butterscotch morsels? I can't imagine that flavor in a Chunky. I
will have to make these now to satisfy a nostalgic crave! :-)

Thanks,
Wayne






Janet Bostwick 16-02-2005 04:24 PM


"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue 15 Feb 2005 10:39:55p, Janet Bostwick wrote in rec.food.cooking:

snip
' Definitely not a real fudge,
>> but it reminds me of that little candy bar you used to be able to
>> buy--about 1 1/2 inches square by 3/4 inch high, wrapped in foil and it
>> was chocolate, raisins and cashews--can't remember the name of it. I
>> made substitutions to the recipe with that candy bar in mind. Here's
>> the recipe.

>
> < recipe snipped for brevity>
>
> Janet, that would be a "Chunky" candy bar. I haven't seen them in stores
> in
> years, but they are still made and available online. At the time, that
> was
> one of my favorite candy bars. They also introduced a version with pecans
> instead of peanuts, but I don't think that one is available anymore.
>
> Thanks for posting the recipe. Are you substituting more chocolate in
> place
> of the butterscotch morsels? I can't imagine that flavor in a Chunky. I
> will have to make these now to satisfy a nostalgic crave! :-)
>
> Thanks,
> Wayne

No, I used the recipe as is. It's certainly easy. One warning, though.
This stuff sets up fast, so have your pan ready.
Janet



Priscilla H. Ballou 16-02-2005 07:03 PM

Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
> Definitely not a real fudge, but it
> reminds me of that little candy bar you used to be able to buy--about 1 1/2
> inches square by 3/4 inch high, wrapped in foil and it was chocolate,
> raisins and cashews--can't remember the name of it.


Chunky?

Priscilla, who remembers them fondly

Doug Freyburger 16-02-2005 07:35 PM

Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
> Can I substitute chipped chocolate from a piece of one of those 15

pound
> blocks of Ghirarardelli for chocolate chips in a recipe? I don't

have
> enough chocolate chips for a candy recipe where the chips are melted,

but I
> do have a piece of the other chocolate. Thanks


Actually it's the other way around. Bagged chocolate chips
are a substitute for block chocolate that's been chopped into
pieces.

Possible issue - Something waxy may be added to the chips
that would effect the texture. Expect softer more chewy
cookies.


Nancy Young 16-02-2005 07:50 PM


"Priscilla H. Ballou" > wrote in message
...
> Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>> Definitely not a real fudge, but it
>> reminds me of that little candy bar you used to be able to buy--about 1
>> 1/2
>> inches square by 3/4 inch high, wrapped in foil and it was chocolate,
>> raisins and cashews--can't remember the name of it.

>
> Chunky?
>
> Priscilla, who remembers them fondly


For some odd reason I was thinking of the Ice Cubes ... you know, it was
the 5 cent candy!!!! ... but I think you're all right ... Chunky. I miss
candy
stores with the luncheonette counter.

nancy (could kill for an egg cream ... putting U-Bet on the shopping list)



Janet Bostwick 16-02-2005 07:59 PM


"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Priscilla H. Ballou" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>>
>>> Definitely not a real fudge, but it
>>> reminds me of that little candy bar you used to be able to buy--about 1
>>> 1/2
>>> inches square by 3/4 inch high, wrapped in foil and it was chocolate,
>>> raisins and cashews--can't remember the name of it.

>>
>> Chunky?
>>
>> Priscilla, who remembers them fondly

>
> For some odd reason I was thinking of the Ice Cubes ... you know, it was
> the 5 cent candy!!!! ... but I think you're all right ... Chunky. I miss
> candy
> stores with the luncheonette counter.
>
> nancy (could kill for an egg cream ... putting U-Bet on the shopping list)

You mean with all that marble and dark wood and mirrors? There was one
still existing in my home town when I grew up. It made all the ice cream
sundaes and suicide cokes taste better. ;o}
Janet



Janet Bostwick 16-02-2005 08:01 PM


"Doug Freyburger" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>
>> Can I substitute chipped chocolate from a piece of one of those 15

> pound
>> blocks of Ghirarardelli for chocolate chips in a recipe? I don't

> have
>> enough chocolate chips for a candy recipe where the chips are melted,

> but I
>> do have a piece of the other chocolate. Thanks

>
> Actually it's the other way around. Bagged chocolate chips
> are a substitute for block chocolate that's been chopped into
> pieces.
>
> Possible issue - Something waxy may be added to the chips
> that would effect the texture. Expect softer more chewy
> cookies.
>

There's something rattling around in my brain regarding that issue. But
the recipe called for chips and we'll see how half chips and half chipped
slab works out. Thanks.
Janet



Gal Called J.J. 16-02-2005 08:05 PM

One time on Usenet, "Nancy Young" > said:
> "Priscilla H. Ballou" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Janet Bostwick wrote:


> >> Definitely not a real fudge, but it
> >> reminds me of that little candy bar you used to be able to buy--about 1
> >> 1/2
> >> inches square by 3/4 inch high, wrapped in foil and it was chocolate,
> >> raisins and cashews--can't remember the name of it.

> >
> > Chunky?
> >
> > Priscilla, who remembers them fondly


> For some odd reason I was thinking of the Ice Cubes ... you know, it was
> the 5 cent candy!!!! ...


Ooooh, I love those -- they're so creamy! Haven't had one for years.

> but I think you're all right ... Chunky. I miss
> candy stores with the luncheonette counter.


Does anyone else remember the plain Chunky bar? It was in a brown
foil wrapper -- same thing, just minus the nuts and raisins. Those
were my absolute favorite chocolate bar.

> nancy (could kill for an egg cream ... putting U-Bet on the shopping list)


What's an egg cream, Nancy?

--
J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~
"You still haven't explained why the pool is
filled with elf blood." - Frylock, ATHF

Priscilla H. Ballou 16-02-2005 08:41 PM

Nancy Young wrote:
>
> "Priscilla H. Ballou" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Janet Bostwick wrote:
> >>
> >> Definitely not a real fudge, but it
> >> reminds me of that little candy bar you used to be able to buy--about 1
> >> 1/2
> >> inches square by 3/4 inch high, wrapped in foil and it was chocolate,
> >> raisins and cashews--can't remember the name of it.

> >
> > Chunky?
> >
> > Priscilla, who remembers them fondly

>
> For some odd reason I was thinking of the Ice Cubes ... you know, it was
> the 5 cent candy!!!! ... but I think you're all right ... Chunky. I miss
> candy
> stores with the luncheonette counter.
>
> nancy (could kill for an egg cream ... putting U-Bet on the shopping list)


Oh, right... 3/4 inch high would be ice cubes, but the solids in them
were teeny tiny bits of stuff (that seemed like tin foil!), not whole
raisins. Chunkies were maybe 1.5 inches square and 1.25 inches high?

Priscilla

Priscilla H. Ballou 16-02-2005 08:44 PM

Janet Bostwick wrote:
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> ...


> > For some odd reason I was thinking of the Ice Cubes ... you know, it was
> > the 5 cent candy!!!! ... but I think you're all right ... Chunky. I miss
> > candy
> > stores with the luncheonette counter.
> >
> > nancy (could kill for an egg cream ... putting U-Bet on the shopping list)

> You mean with all that marble and dark wood and mirrors? There was one
> still existing in my home town when I grew up. It made all the ice cream
> sundaes and suicide cokes taste better. ;o}


I never ran into one of those until I came to Boston and discovered
Baileys (may it rest in peace). In the part of NYC where I grew up, one
got egg creams at lunch counters in (some) drug stores or at small
restaurants. Stuff like Ice Cubes we got at the hole-in-the-wall
newspaper store around the corner from school.

Ah, memories!

Priscilla

Priscilla H. Ballou 16-02-2005 08:45 PM

"Gal Called J.J." wrote:
>
> One time on Usenet, "Nancy Young" > said:
> > nancy (could kill for an egg cream ... putting U-Bet on the shopping list)

>
> What's an egg cream, Nancy?


An NYC treat. Imagine a chocolate ice cream soda without the ice cream,
only richer. :-)

Priscilla

Nancy Young 16-02-2005 09:07 PM


"Priscilla H. Ballou" > wrote in message
...
> "Gal Called J.J." wrote:
>>
>> One time on Usenet, "Nancy Young" > said:
>> > nancy (could kill for an egg cream ... putting U-Bet on the shopping
>> > list)

>>
>> What's an egg cream, Nancy?

>
> An NYC treat. Imagine a chocolate ice cream soda without the ice cream,
> only richer. :-)


It is a treat. Seltzer, Fox's U-Bet and ... ahhhh! someone help me ...
cream?
No eggs.

nancy



Priscilla H. Ballou 16-02-2005 09:49 PM

Nancy Young wrote:
>
> "Priscilla H. Ballou" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Gal Called J.J." wrote:
> >>
> >> One time on Usenet, "Nancy Young" > said:
> >> > nancy (could kill for an egg cream ... putting U-Bet on the shopping
> >> > list)
> >>
> >> What's an egg cream, Nancy?

> >
> > An NYC treat. Imagine a chocolate ice cream soda without the ice cream,
> > only richer. :-)

>
> It is a treat. Seltzer, Fox's U-Bet and ... ahhhh! someone help me ...
> cream?
> No eggs.


I make 'em with milk/cream, chocolate syrup, and seltzer.

Priscilla

Gal Called J.J. 16-02-2005 10:08 PM

One time on Usenet, "Priscilla H. Ballou" > said:
> "Gal Called J.J." wrote:
> > One time on Usenet, "Nancy Young" > said:


> > > nancy (could kill for an egg cream ... putting U-Bet on the shopping list)

> >
> > What's an egg cream, Nancy?

>
> An NYC treat. Imagine a chocolate ice cream soda
> without the ice cream, only richer. :-)


I've never had a ice cream soda either. Is it anything like a float?
Still, it sounds good, I'm all for any food that's "rich"... :-)

--
J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~
"You still haven't explained why the pool is
filled with elf blood." - Frylock, ATHF

Priscilla H. Ballou 16-02-2005 10:44 PM

"Gal Called J.J." wrote:
>
> One time on Usenet, "Priscilla H. Ballou" > said:
> > "Gal Called J.J." wrote:
> > > One time on Usenet, "Nancy Young" > said:

>
> > > > nancy (could kill for an egg cream ... putting U-Bet on the shopping list)
> > >
> > > What's an egg cream, Nancy?

> >
> > An NYC treat. Imagine a chocolate ice cream soda
> > without the ice cream, only richer. :-)

>
> I've never had a ice cream soda either. Is it anything like a float?
> Still, it sounds good, I'm all for any food that's "rich"... :-)


Take a tall glass. Pour in a couple of ounces of cream followed by a
ounce or two of chocolate syrup. Pour in cold seltzer, stirring all the
while. Stick in a straw and slurp it up.

Priscilla

Gal Called J.J. 17-02-2005 09:24 PM

One time on Usenet, "Priscilla H. Ballou" > said:
> "Gal Called J.J." wrote:


<snip>

> > I've never had a ice cream soda either. Is it anything like a float?
> > Still, it sounds good, I'm all for any food that's "rich"... :-)

>
> Take a tall glass. Pour in a couple of ounces of cream followed by a
> ounce or two of chocolate syrup. Pour in cold seltzer, stirring all the
> while. Stick in a straw and slurp it up.


Oh, so that's a soda, eh? I've heard of them over the years (I'm 41),
but never tried one. It sounds good, thanks for the instructions...

--
J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~
"You still haven't explained why the pool is
filled with elf blood." - Frylock, ATHF

Priscilla Ballou 17-02-2005 09:56 PM

In article >,
(Gal Called J.J.) wrote:

> One time on Usenet, "Priscilla H. Ballou" > said:
> > "Gal Called J.J." wrote:

>
> <snip>
>
> > > I've never had a ice cream soda either. Is it anything like a float?
> > > Still, it sounds good, I'm all for any food that's "rich"... :-)

> >
> > Take a tall glass. Pour in a couple of ounces of cream followed by a
> > ounce or two of chocolate syrup. Pour in cold seltzer, stirring all the
> > while. Stick in a straw and slurp it up.

>
> Oh, so that's a soda, eh? I've heard of them over the years (I'm 41),
> but never tried one. It sounds good, thanks for the instructions...


No, that's about as close to an egg cream as you can get in your home.
An ice cream soda has a scoop of ice cream added at the end, kind of
stuck on the edge of the glass so it doesn't plunk down into the liquid
and displace it upwards. Plus the seltzer may foam up more when the ice
cream enters it.

Priscilla
--
"And what's this crap about Sodomites? It's always Sodomites this and
Sodomites that. What about us Gomorrahians? We were there too; we
deserve some mention. Sodom always gets the credit, and Gomorrah always
does the work." - JohnN in alt.religion.christian.episcopal

Nancy Young 17-02-2005 10:08 PM


"Gal Called J.J." > wrote in message
...
> One time on Usenet, "Priscilla H. Ballou" > said:
>> "Gal Called J.J." wrote:

>
> <snip>
>
>> > I've never had a ice cream soda either. Is it anything like a float?
>> > Still, it sounds good, I'm all for any food that's "rich"... :-)

>>
>> Take a tall glass. Pour in a couple of ounces of cream followed by a
>> ounce or two of chocolate syrup. Pour in cold seltzer, stirring all the
>> while. Stick in a straw and slurp it up.

>
> Oh, so that's a soda, eh? I've heard of them over the years (I'm 41),
> but never tried one. It sounds good, thanks for the instructions...


That's an egg cream!

nancy



Alex Rast 18-02-2005 12:50 AM

at Wed, 16 Feb 2005 20:01:20 GMT in >,
(Janet Bostwick) wrote :

>
>"Doug Freyburger" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> Janet Bostwick wrote:
>>>
>>> Can I substitute chipped chocolate from a piece of one of those 15

>> pound
>>> blocks of Ghirarardelli for chocolate chips in a recipe?...

>>
>> Actually it's the other way around. Bagged chocolate chips
>> are a substitute for block chocolate that's been chopped into
>> pieces.
>>
>> Possible issue - Something waxy may be added to the chips
>> that would effect the texture. Expect softer more chewy
>> cookies.
>>

>There's something rattling around in my brain regarding that issue. But
>the recipe called for chips and we'll see how half chips and half chipped
>slab works out. Thanks.


Chocolate chips are generally made with less cocoa butter than block
chocolate "couverture". This is so that, used in chocolate chip cookies,
they don't melt as quickly. Very few chocolate chips that I know of add
anything waxy - most of them simply use less cocoa butter (and it's for
this reason that chocolate chips are generally the cheapest format for dark
chocolate - cocoa butter is expensive, and the less you have in there, the
less expensive the chocolate will be).

In a recipe that doesn't call for the chips to be used similarly to a
chocolate chip cookie - folded or stirred or kneaded into a dough or batter
and then baked, block chocolate couverture almost always gives slightly
better results. It's especially true if the chocolate is to be melted:
couverture melts faster and more uniformly. In your quick fudge recipe,
the block chocolate will work perfectly. I should note that in a recipe
that *does* call for chips to be used in their classic application, the
purpose-made chips will perform better. They won't flatten as much and they
resist the streaky, separated effect that block chocolate usually develops.


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Gal Called J.J. 18-02-2005 01:08 AM

One time on Usenet, "Nancy Young" > said:
>
> "Gal Called J.J." > wrote in message
> ...
> > One time on Usenet, "Priscilla H. Ballou" > said:
> >> "Gal Called J.J." wrote:

> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >> > I've never had a ice cream soda either. Is it anything like a float?
> >> > Still, it sounds good, I'm all for any food that's "rich"... :-)
> >>
> >> Take a tall glass. Pour in a couple of ounces of cream followed by a
> >> ounce or two of chocolate syrup. Pour in cold seltzer, stirring all the
> >> while. Stick in a straw and slurp it up.

> >
> > Oh, so that's a soda, eh? I've heard of them over the years (I'm 41),
> > but never tried one. It sounds good, thanks for the instructions...

>
> That's an egg cream!


D'oh! My mistake. Anyway, it sounds good. If I ever get back to the East
Coast, I'll have to try one...
>
>


--
J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~
"You still haven't explained why the pool is
filled with elf blood." - Frylock, ATHF

Janet Bostwick 18-02-2005 01:40 AM


"Alex Rast" > wrote in message
...
> at Wed, 16 Feb 2005 20:01:20 GMT in >,
> (Janet Bostwick) wrote :

snip
>>>> Can I substitute chipped chocolate from a piece of one of those 15
>>> pound
>>>> blocks of Ghirarardelli for chocolate chips in a recipe?...

snip

> Chocolate chips are generally made with less cocoa butter than block
> chocolate "couverture". This is so that, used in chocolate chip cookies,
> they don't melt as quickly. Very few chocolate chips that I know of add
> anything waxy - most of them simply use less cocoa butter (and it's for
> this reason that chocolate chips are generally the cheapest format for
> dark
> chocolate - cocoa butter is expensive, and the less you have in there, the
> less expensive the chocolate will be).
>
> In a recipe that doesn't call for the chips to be used similarly to a
> chocolate chip cookie - folded or stirred or kneaded into a dough or
> batter
> and then baked, block chocolate couverture almost always gives slightly
> better results. It's especially true if the chocolate is to be melted:
> couverture melts faster and more uniformly. In your quick fudge recipe,
> the block chocolate will work perfectly. I should note that in a recipe
> that *does* call for chips to be used in their classic application, the
> purpose-made chips will perform better. They won't flatten as much and
> they
> resist the streaky, separated effect that block chocolate usually
> develops.
>
>
> --
> Alex Rast
>

> (remove d., .7, not, and .NOSPAM to reply)


Thank you for the information, Alex. You've explained the difference so
that I will be able to keep it in mind.
I used half of each kind of chocolate. The mixture did melt easier in the
pot. I thought that was simply because I'd used my chef's knife and the
chocolate was shaved more than chipped. The candy feels slightly creamier
in the mouth and appears a little smoother to the eye. I definitely like
the flavor better, the Ghirardelli is nice.

I would have reported back yesterday but I never got around to making the
candy. I got snarled up with a phone call to HP tech support. Whatever you
do, never phone tech support anymore. Due to language barrier, I spent over
10 minutes just trying to get my name and phone number across to the tech
person. It was a mutual thing. I absolutely could not understand him and
he for sure couldn't understand me. I only phoned because my first online
chat didn't solve my printer problem. An hour and a half later I simply
hung up the phone. Then I tried online chat again--this time I got someone
that listened and didn't need to run me through all the steps on the techie
cheat sheet. Anyway, after that, I just went to bed with a headache.
Janet



Alex Rast 18-02-2005 09:23 AM

at Fri, 18 Feb 2005 01:40:50 GMT in >,
(Janet Bostwick) wrote :

....
>
>I would have reported back yesterday but I never got around to making
>the candy. I got snarled up with a phone call to HP tech support.
>Whatever you do, never phone tech support anymore. Due to language
>barrier, I spent over 10 minutes just trying to get my name and phone
>number across to the tech person.


Ah, the joys of outsourcing. I'd like to point out to every company that
outsources tech support in order to cut costs, that if your tech support
costs are really so staggering as to require you to outsource, you don't
have a tech support problem, you've got a product problem. In other words,
the total number of calls you should *ever* get to tech support should be
minimal. Any product that generates lots of tech support calls is either
badly designed or badly built. A well-designed product should be pretty
turnkey and reliable with any system or configuration.

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