White vinegar will clean most things, so I use this on a warm glass oven to
keep doors sparkling. rinsed first in hot soapy water or suds, and
rinsed,and finally buffed up with kitchen paper towels.

Sprinkle bicarbinate of soda, around the sink plug hole, and then pour some
white vinegar ontop....this will fizz up and slowly go down the
drain....taking all the grease and yuk with it.

Use a dab of white vinegar on a cloth around the taps too...infact anywhere
where a slight stain maybe, it is excellent as the acid gets to work
instantly on most things. Even in the bath room, and limescale comes away
effortlessly.

Glass and ceramics are left unharmed. I've never used it on my ceramic
hob, as I use a special cream, but can't see that it would harm this.
Anyone have a glass fronted coal or log fire....cleans the glass up real
fine..

HTH

In article > ,
"cher" > wrote:

> White vinegar will clean most things,

It also keeps dyes from fading, so I pour a bit in the washing machine
with my black jeans and with my hand dyed clothes from India.

Priscilla

--
"It is very, very dangerous to treat any human, lowest
of the low even, with contempt and arrogant whatever.
The Lord takes this kind of treatment very, very personal."
- QBaal in newsgroup alt.religion.christian.episcopal

cher wrote:
> White vinegar will clean most things, so I use this on a warm glass oven
to
> keep doors sparkling. rinsed first in hot soapy water or suds, and
> rinsed,and finally buffed up with kitchen paper towels.

I think that many of us have already discovered this usage.


> Sprinkle bicarbinate of soda, around the sink plug hole...

It's bicarbonate of soda, or sodium bicarbonate...

It's also drain hole or drain rather than "sink plug hole."


> and then pour some
> white vinegar ontop....this will fizz up and slowly go down the
> drain....taking all the grease and yuk with it.

It'll fizz up all right. It may fizz up more than expected. It will not,
however, automatically take "all the grease and yuk with it" as it loses its
steam and runs down the drain. Why would it? As it has no soap or detergent
action of its own, it's not meant to lift "grease and yuk." You may find
that the "grease and yuk" in your drain is probably still there.


> Use a dab of white vinegar on a cloth around the taps too...infact
anywhere
> where a slight stain maybe, it is excellent as the acid gets to work
> instantly on most things. Even in the bath room, and limescale comes away
> effortlessly.

Um, yes. Remember that acid reacts with all metals and not just scale. As
you merrily swab your taps with vinegar, you lose your taps by degrees.

The effect is especially notable on less expensive fixtures, where you'll
see erosion and discoloration quite quickly as the chrome is eaten away.


> Glass and ceramics are left unharmed. I've never used it on my ceramic
> hob, as I use a special cream, but can't see that it would harm this.
> Anyone have a glass fronted coal or log fire....cleans the glass up real
> fine..

Glass and ceramics may be etched by vinegars.

Fireplaces can be great tar/creosote producers. Don't try to take that stuff
off with vinegar.

pennyaline wrote:
> cher wrote:
>> White vinegar will clean most things, so I use this on a warm glass
>> oven to keep doors sparkling. rinsed first in hot soapy water or
>> suds, and rinsed,and finally buffed up with kitchen paper towels.
>
> I think that many of us have already discovered this usage.
>
>
>> Sprinkle bicarbinate of soda, around the sink plug hole...
>
> It's bicarbonate of soda, or sodium bicarbonate...
>
> It's also drain hole or drain rather than "sink plug hole."
>
Must you be so condescending? People have different terms for different
things. She's in the UK. You're posting from Qwest in the U.S. Get over
it.

Jill

"jmcquown" wrote
> pennyaline wrote:
>> cher wrote:
>>> White vinegar will clean most things, so I use this on a warm glass
>>> oven to keep doors sparkling. rinsed first in hot soapy water or
>>> suds, and rinsed,and finally buffed up with kitchen paper towels.
>>
>> I think that many of us have already discovered this usage.
>>
>>
>>> Sprinkle bicarbinate of soda, around the sink plug hole...
>>
>> It's bicarbonate of soda, or sodium bicarbonate...
>>
>> It's also drain hole or drain rather than "sink plug hole."
>>
> Must you be so condescending? People have different terms for different
> things. She's in the UK. You're posting from Qwest in the U.S. Get over
> it.
>
> Jill

Thanks for saying just what I was thinking, Jill.

Pam

Ed Grabau and Pam Jacoby wrote:
> Thanks for saying just what I was thinking, Jill.

What? You were thinking "get over it" too?

Last I knew, it's called a drain in the UK.

<we now rejoin the point, already in progress>

> Last I knew, it's called a drain in the UK.<

Is it???? good grief, and I was born and bred here believing that the drain
is the outside bit....the hole in the sink with the plug in it leading to
the drain, a plug hole. I must try to let everyone here in England know
we've all been wrong all these years, and that those of us using this term,
must now use the U.S. term of drain.. Although I expect some do use this,
depending on how long they've lived in England, and what part they come
from.

You'd be flipping lost if I spoke in true English Cockney or one of the
Shire's Gaelic tongues.

As to your comments on vinegar etc, it's not as if we do this regular every
day or week or even monthly...but it'll shift things even grease, to bring
whatever back to clean again.....should you ever get your things to the
state where ordinary suds won't shift it.

>>English Major in me<<
Don't think there is ever the fear of you being that, much as you seem to
think you are.
As to your term of Pedantic. You couldn't be more right, you are!

Still each to their own, I'm sure you can't help it. and no doubt there is
a skeleton somewhere in that cupboard of yours.. You'll be fine in
time...it's a great healer. In the meantime I'll leave you to rattle your
cage in peace, and prattle on, by yourself. Another English trait.

Keep Wok~ing.....Cher

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 20:15:02 GMT, "Ed Grabau and Pam Jacoby" <pjjehg
@frontiernet.net> wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" wrote
>> pennyaline wrote:
>>> cher wrote:
>>>> White vinegar will clean most things, so I use this on a warm glass
>>>> oven to keep doors sparkling. rinsed first in hot soapy water or
>>>> suds, and rinsed,and finally buffed up with kitchen paper towels.
>>>
>>> I think that many of us have already discovered this usage.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sprinkle bicarbinate of soda, around the sink plug hole...
>>>
>>> It's bicarbonate of soda, or sodium bicarbonate...
>>>
>>> It's also drain hole or drain rather than "sink plug hole."
>>>
>> Must you be so condescending? People have different terms for different
>> things. She's in the UK. You're posting from Qwest in the U.S. Get over
>> it.
>>
>> Jill
>
>Thanks for saying just what I was thinking, Jill.
>
>Pam
>

I agree.

Boron

jmcquown wrote:
> Must you be so condescending? People have different terms for different
> things. She's in the UK. You're posting from Qwest in the U.S. Get over
> it.

Jesus, I just love it when the reaction to correction is "Get over it."

Get over what?

<answer that cogently, and I might just think about *getting over it*>

pennyaline wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Must you be so condescending? People have different terms for
>> different things. She's in the UK. You're posting from Qwest in
>> the U.S. Get over it.
>
> Jesus, I just love it when the reaction to correction is "Get over
> it."
>
> Get over what?
>
> <answer that cogently, and I might just think about *getting over it*>

Get over your spelling correction of bicarbinate and your objection to the
use of her term "sink plug hole". If you need me to be more specific,
please let me know.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> Get over your spelling correction of bicarbinate and your objection to the
> use of her term "sink plug hole".

Nope. Sorry, no can do. It's the not just pedantic English major in me.

<and that's ignoring the ' ". ' ;p >


> If you need me to be more specific,
> please let me know.

Again, nope. That's enough to convince me that I'll never need to get over
it

What? why isnt this mail showing up for me....oh well..not to worry,
doesn't sound like I've missed much...LOL

Oh well...Cher



"jmcquown" > wrote in message
. ..
> pennyaline wrote:
> > cher wrote:
> >> White vinegar will clean most things, so I use this on a warm glass
> >> oven to keep doors sparkling. rinsed first in hot soapy water or
> >> suds, and rinsed,and finally buffed up with kitchen paper towels.
> >
> > I think that many of us have already discovered this usage.
> >
> >
> >> Sprinkle bicarbinate of soda, around the sink plug hole...
> >
> > It's bicarbonate of soda, or sodium bicarbonate...
> >
> > It's also drain hole or drain rather than "sink plug hole."
> >
> Must you be so condescending? People have different terms for different
> things. She's in the UK. You're posting from Qwest in the U.S. Get over
> it.
>
> Jill
>
>

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 13:58:28 GMT, "cher"
> wrote:

>Sprinkle bicarbinate of soda, around the sink plug hole, and then pour some
>white vinegar ontop....this will fizz up and slowly go down the
>drain....taking all the grease and yuk with it.

I'm not entirely convinced of this, but I'll think about giving it a try.
When you mix vinegar with baking soda (another name for it here, don't know
if you call it that there), you get salt and water. Vinegar is an acid and
baking soda is a base, and when the two mix, salt and water is the result.
So it seems unlikely to me that salt water alone can cut through
grease, but it's vaguely possible that the reaction between the two
accomplishes something, so I'll give it a shot and see what happens.

--
Siobhan Perricone
Humans wrote the bible,
God wrote the rocks
-- Word of God by Kathy Mar

I have done this over here in the UK once a year for years, down the 'plug
hole' of my stainless steel sink.
Now having a new kitchen fitted, and therefore sink and draining board,
when the pipes came out of the wall etc, I inspected them, no slime or
anything in them....whether this is because of the vinegar mix or not I dont
know, but they were clean and the plastic parts still supple etc, and didn't
need replacing at all. I guess too that alot of it has to do with your
water... soft or hard etc.

Some people use bleach down their sinks, I don't think I'd want to use
anything too harsh, our bleaches are really strong over here.

I find lemon also helpful.

Keep Wok~ing........Cher



"Siobhan Perricone" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 13:58:28 GMT, "cher"
> > wrote:
>
> >Sprinkle bicarbinate of soda, around the sink plug hole, and then pour
some
> >white vinegar ontop....this will fizz up and slowly go down the
> >drain....taking all the grease and yuk with it.
>
> I'm not entirely convinced of this, but I'll think about giving it a try.
> When you mix vinegar with baking soda (another name for it here, don't
know
> if you call it that there), you get salt and water. Vinegar is an acid and
> baking soda is a base, and when the two mix, salt and water is the result.
> So it seems unlikely to me that salt water alone can cut through
> grease, but it's vaguely possible that the reaction between the two
> accomplishes something, so I'll give it a shot and see what happens.
>
> --
> Siobhan Perricone
> Humans wrote the bible,
> God wrote the rocks
> -- Word of God by Kathy Mar

"When you mix vinegar with baking soda (another name for it here, don't
know
if you call it that there), you get salt and water."
Where does the carbon (it's in both vinegar and baking soda, but not in
water or common salts) go?

"salgud" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> "When you mix vinegar with baking soda (another name for it here, don't
> know
> if you call it that there), you get salt and water."
> Where does the carbon (it's in both vinegar and baking soda, but not in
> water or common salts) go?

Simple - the "fizz" is carbon dioxide.

Actually, with sodium bicarbonate and acetic acid (which is
the acid in vinegar), you do NOT get "salt" in the sense of
table salt (sodium chloride, NaCl); you get water plus
carbon dioxide (the gas bubbles) and sodium acetate.

Ordinary salt plus water results from a reaction betweeh
hydrochloric acid (HCl) and sodium hydroxide (lye, or
NaOH) - but you don't to try this as a means of making
salt water, as if you aren't very careful in balancing the
two original materials (both of which are pretty nasty
stuff), you'll wind up with a leftover amount of one or
the other.

Bob M.