News just in!

She faces up to 20 years in prison, however the TV news media
speculates it will be less.

Hmmmm.... she could work on this:

http://www.npr.org/programs/wesat/fe...2002/apr/loaf/

She updated her web site today at:

http://www.marthatalks.com

On 2004-03-05, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> News just in!

Is she guilty? Probably. But, it sticks in my craw that the like of Hilary
and Ken Lay are living the high life while they hang Martha out to dry.

nb

notbob wrote:
>
> On 2004-03-05, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> > News just in!
>
> Is she guilty? Probably. But, it sticks in my craw that the like of Hilary
> and Ken Lay are living the high life while they hang Martha out to dry.
>
> nb

I'm with you.

nancy

>notbob wrote:
>>
>> Is she guilty? Probably. But, it sticks in my craw that the like of
>Hilary
>> and Ken Lay are living the high life while they hang Martha out to dry.

You don't not punish someone because others committed greater crimes and/or
haven't gotten caught yet... Mothra definitely did the crime so she should do
the time. Actually at the eleventh hour she got lucky and therefore will very
likely get off easy, way too easy, perhaps a year or two in some Federal
country club, plenty of time for her to crochet pink doilys... she had better
worry more about her next hurdle, the IRS. It's unfortunate Hillery and Ken
didn't get caught, but that's no defence, certainly does not excuse Mothra, a
mean spirited bitch who treated her employees like dirt as well as everyone
else... and with all the millions she amassed she gives nothing back,
contributes not a dime to any humanitarian cause... but her meaness is a
separate issue from the fact that she is a thief and liar. I can't wait for
the IRS to wring every nickle she;s got from her scrawny selfish neck. She's
definitely guilty, and they found her so, for that I am glad. I feel not an
iota of pity for her. The irony is that she shows no remorse, she actually
believes she is innocent... for that I hope she receives a sentence weighted
with the full impact the law allows... and then a humiliating work release
program where she's publicly demeaned, where she's made to scrub the curb the
entire length of NYC's 34th St eight hours a day on her hands and knees,
wearing a lurid jump suit with her name boldly emblazoned in big letters front,
back, and across her big fat nasty butt. How dare some think she deserves kid
glove treatment, Mothra Miscreant and her ilk think nothing of stealing the
life blood from average working class citzens, those least able to defend
themselves... may she, the ingrate that she is, rot in hell. Keep in mind the
crime she was found guilty of is merely the tip of the iceberg, the one where
seh got caught, be well assured she's been doing similar misdeeds and probably
of far greater magnitude for a long, long time. Anyone feeling sorry for that
dirt bag is a friggin' fool.


---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
Sheldon
````````````
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

PENMART01 wrote:

> program where she's publicly demeaned, where she's made to scrub the curb the
> entire length of NYC's 34th St eight hours a day on her hands and knees,
> wearing a lurid jump suit with her name boldly emblazoned in big letters front,
> back, and across her big fat nasty butt. How dare some think she deserves kid

I'm not familiar with New York City. What's special
about 34th St., that you specifically mention it?

>Mark Thorson writes:
>
>PENMART01 wrote:
>
>> program where she's publicly demeaned, where she's made to scrub the curb
>the
>> entire length of NYC's 34th St eight hours a day on her hands and knees,
>> wearing a lurid jump suit with her name boldly emblazoned in big letters
>front,
>> back, and across her big fat nasty butt. How dare some think she deserves
>kid
>
>I'm not familiar with New York City. What's special
>about 34th St., that you specifically mention it?

While he was in office Mayor Giulianni instituted a program to save the city
money whereas convicted felons that qualified for work release programs would
be used to clean certain of the city's major arteries, 34th St being the first
chosen because due to traffic patterns it can easily be closed off to vehicular
traffic in each direction at various times... plus 34th St is the garment
district, Mothra's main stomping grounds, she'd be sure to be noticed. The
felons wear bright orange jump suits emblazoned with their names.


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````````````
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

"notbob" > wrote in message
news:7R92c.185068$jk2.671356@attbi_s53...
> On 2004-03-05, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> > News just in!
>
> Is she guilty? Probably. But, it sticks in my craw that the like of
Hilary
> and Ken Lay are living the high life while they hang Martha out to dry.
>
On my way home this afternoon I saw a billboard that must have been hastily
put up. It read "Martha, you burned your cookies."

Her take was allegedly $50,000. OTOH there is a long trail of other white
collar predators out there who collectively defrauded the public of
$billions$ in corporate accounting scandals and nearly all of them remain
untouched by any criminal prosecutions.

>"Sam D."
>
>"notbob" wrote:
>>Mark Thorazine wails:
>> > News just in!
>>
>> Is she guilty? Probably. But, it sticks in my craw that the like of
>Hilary
>> and Ken Lay are living the high life while they hang Martha out to dry.
>>
>On my way home this afternoon I saw a billboard that must have been hastily
>put up. It read "Martha, you burned your cookies."
>
>Her take was allegedly $50,000. OTOH there is a long trail of other white
>collar predators out there who collectively defrauded the public of
>$billions$ in corporate accounting scandals and nearly all of them remain
>untouched by any criminal prosecutions.

Another pointy headed putz who'd rationalize that attempted murder is not any
crime because it doesn't rise to murder. Idiot.


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---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
Sheldon
````````````
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

"Sam D." > wrote in message
> Her take was allegedly $50,000. OTOH there is a long trail of other white
> collar predators out there who collectively defrauded the public of
> $billions$ in corporate accounting scandals and nearly all of them remain
> untouched by any criminal prosecutions.
>
>

You are correct, there are many people with worse crimes. And they should be
prosecuted also.

If Martha is indeed guilty, she should have some punishment.

"notbob" > wrote in message
news:7R92c.185068$jk2.671356@attbi_s53...
> On 2004-03-05, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> > News just in!
>
> Is she guilty? Probably. But, it sticks in my craw that the like of
Hilary
> and Ken Lay are living the high life while they hang Martha out to dry.
>
> nb

Well, since this is a *food* group, here is some food for thought. By all
accounts, Ken Lay is a long time close friend of the Bush family, Sr. and
Jr., and one of their biggest campaign contributors.
Martha is a Democrat.........
Not that that makes her any less guilty, but it could explain why she seems
to get more attention from the government than Lay does, even though her
crime is on a MUCH smaller scale than Lay's.
H

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:30:43 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2004-03-05, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>> News just in!
>
>Is she guilty? Probably. But, it sticks in my craw that the like of Hilary
>and Ken Lay are living the high life while they hang Martha out to dry.

I'm with you on Ken Lay, but what did "Hilary" [sic] do? She made
some bad investments. Remind me who exactly that hurt.

I feel the same way about Martha's case. Martha simply made the
mistake of supporting some of the Democrats's causes.

Leo

Leo Scanlon wrote:

>
> I'm with you on Ken Lay, but what did "Hilary" [sic] do? She made
> some bad investments. Remind me who exactly that hurt.
>
> I feel the same way about Martha's case. Martha simply made the
> mistake of supporting some of the Democrats's causes.
>
> Leo

I'm sitting here wondering what financial mess Ken Lay is guilty of? Hillary we
know had that lil front money from Tyson Chicken to parlay into what... 250K or
so? Very unusual apparently. Figures.
Goomba

"Goomba38" > wrote in message
...
> Leo Scanlon wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm with you on Ken Lay, but what did "Hilary" [sic] do? She made
> > some bad investments. Remind me who exactly that hurt.
> >
> > I feel the same way about Martha's case. Martha simply made the
> > mistake of supporting some of the Democrats's causes.
> >
> > Leo
>
> I'm sitting here wondering what financial mess Ken Lay is guilty of?
Hillary we
> know had that lil front money from Tyson Chicken to parlay into what...
250K or
> so? Very unusual apparently. Figures.
> Goomba

Hillary made 100,000.00 bucks in the futures market. She would not hav
eneeded any front money from Tyson, she had plenty of her own. She made the
money in one huge trade which is suspicious but it has been done many times
in the past by others.

Ken Lay is the mastermind behind Enron, a company that was established for
no other reason than to make illegal profits.

Paul

>
>
>
>

Leo Scanlon > wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:30:43 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>>On 2004-03-05, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>>> News just in!
>>
>>Is she guilty? Probably. But, it sticks in my craw that the like of Hilary
>>and Ken Lay are living the high life while they hang Martha out to dry.

> I'm with you on Ken Lay, but what did "Hilary" [sic] do? She made
> some bad investments. Remind me who exactly that hurt.

> I feel the same way about Martha's case. Martha simply made the
> mistake of supporting some of the Democrats's causes.

Huh? What's this got to do with politics? MS was convicted of lying
to federal SEC investigators.

notbob > wrote:
> On 2004-03-05, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>> News just in!

> Is she guilty? Probably. But, it sticks in my craw that the like of Hilary
> and Ken Lay are living the high life while they hang Martha out to dry.

Actually, Ken Lay is looking at some major jail time, if I am
not mistaken. I do not know about his wife though.

On 6 Mar 2004 14:58:20 GMT, arranged random neurons,
so they looked like this:

>notbob > wrote:
>> On 2004-03-05, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>>> News just in!
>
>> Is she guilty? Probably. But, it sticks in my craw that the like of Hilary
>> and Ken Lay are living the high life while they hang Martha out to dry.
>
>Actually, Ken Lay is looking at some major jail time, if I am
>not mistaken. I do not know about his wife though.

Stan, I think notbob was referring to Hillary Clinton. Ken Lay's
wife's name is Susan, IIRC.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret
had been as old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had
been as full as the waitress', it would have been a very
good dinner." Anonymous.

To reply, remove replace "shcox" with "cox"

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:30:43 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2004-03-05, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>> News just in!
>
>Is she guilty? Probably. But, it sticks in my craw that the like of Hilary
>and Ken Lay are living the high life while they hang Martha out to dry.
>
>nb


Martha probably didn't cultivate ( pay )
the right poitical connections.......

When all is said and done,
it's usually about money.


<rj>

notbob wrote:

> On 2004-03-05, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> > News just in!
>
> Is she guilty? Probably. But, it sticks in my craw that the like of Hilary
> and Ken Lay are living the high life while they hang Martha out to dry.

My biggest concern is that Bush will start another war to divert attention from
the problems with the stock market. It is a pretty good system in theory, but
we are seeing far too many cases of people manipulating stocks and screwing
their shareholders of their hard earned money.

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 15:45:54 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>notbob wrote:
>
>> On 2004-03-05, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>> > News just in!
>>
>> Is she guilty? Probably. But, it sticks in my craw that the like of Hilary
>> and Ken Lay are living the high life while they hang Martha out to dry.
>
>My biggest concern is that Bush will start another war to divert attention from
>the problems with the stock market. It is a pretty good system in theory, but
>we are seeing far too many cases of people manipulating stocks and screwing
>their shareholders of their hard earned money.
>

I don't think that will happen; he doesn't care about the stock market
per se, only getting re-elected. More likely, he will pull Osama bin
Laden out of his hat right before the election.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

Curly Sue wrote:

> More likely, he will pull Osama bin
> Laden out of his hat right before the election.

If Bush wanted to create a distraction,
he could pardon Martha. He could make
some comments about her contributions to
uplifting American culture, and how she's
being made the scapegoat for much worse
crimes performed by other people. Because
she's a woman. Properly spun, a pardon
probably could be made palatable to the
American people, so it wouldn't create negatives
for Bush and might even be positive. And
in the resulting controversy, the economy,
unemployment, and Iraq would be taken off
the front burner of the media.

>From: Mark Thorson

>If Bush wanted to create a distraction,
>he could pardon Martha. He could make
>some comments about her contributions to
>uplifting American culture, and how she's
>being made the scapegoat for much worse
>crimes performed by other people. Because
>she's a woman. Properly spun, a pardon
>probably could be made palatable to the
>American people, so it wouldn't create negatives
>for Bush and might even be positive. And
>in the resulting controversy, the economy,
>unemployment, and Iraq would be taken off
>the front burner of the media.

That if Bush isn't already manipulated by the Walton Monopoly - hoping that
KMART will finally go out of business. If anyone had an agenda to see MSL out
of bizness it would be them, as they have been knocking off the KMART line of
MSL products since her indictment.

In article >,
says...
> On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 15:45:54 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >notbob wrote:
> >
> >> On 2004-03-05, Mark Thorson > wrote:
> >> > News just in!
> >>
> >> Is she guilty? Probably. But, it sticks in my craw that the like of Hilary
> >> and Ken Lay are living the high life while they hang Martha out to dry.
> >
> >My biggest concern is that Bush will start another war to divert attention from
> >the problems with the stock market. It is a pretty good system in theory, but
> >we are seeing far too many cases of people manipulating stocks and screwing
> >their shareholders of their hard earned money.
> >
>
> I don't think that will happen; he doesn't care about the stock market
> per se, only getting re-elected. More likely, he will pull Osama bin
> Laden out of his hat right before the election.

Out of his hat? I think Osama is impacted firmly in Bush's ass.

Seriously though, this administration has used WMD's since day one. That
is, Weapons of Mass Distraction. The lies are piling up and I'm hoping
this motivates enough people to toss his ass out of office.

And if he takes it like he took it in 2000? Watch out. Plenty of ****ed
off people out there.

Martha Stewart did not lie to the American people the way that creeps
like John Poindexter do -duh, I guess Republican LIARS are hired by
the Federal Government !

Investigator, David Sween exposes biased judge. No wonder the
Prosecution rejected a reasonable judge, to give this idiot the
opportunity to pervert justice.


Date: 2004-03-03 21:27:13
David Sween wrote:

Why does Judge Delucchi contradict himself? In his own words, "I'm
persuaded the dog tracking in and around Modesto can't be
corroborated'' said Delucchi. "You can't cross-examine the dog."

Delucchi, however, ruled that prosecutors will be able to present a
separate piece of dog-tracking evidence that places Laci Peterson's
scent at the very pier where her husband said he left for an afternoon
of fishing on the day she went missing. The jury will hear testimony
from an expert dog handler whose Labrador retriever Trimble followed
Laci Peterson's scent from the parking lot of the Berkeley Marina to
the edge of the pier.

Court precedent requires corroboration of any dog-tracking evidence,
Delucchi said, and called the marina evidence admissible because Scott
Peterson admitted going to the marina, and Laci Peterson and her fetus
washed ashore 2 1/2 miles from the marina four months later. What does
that have to do with the need to follow Laci's scent?

Where is the corroboration? Did anybody see Laci at the Marina? Is
Judge Delucci going to cross-examine the dog? This judge does not make
any sense. First and foremost, the crap that Delucci has chosen to
call evidence is straight out of the National Enquirer, and this is
the direct quote: "And Trimble, another Lab tracking dog, produced the
most compelling evidence against Scott. He showed that Scott left his
warehouse in his truck, headed for the Berkeley Marina, and the dog
picked up Laci's scent – at the marina!"

Is Judge Delucchi going to cross-examine the dog?

Moreover, Delucchi has selectively excluded dog tracking evidence
because Modesto police detective Al Brocchini called off a search even
though a bloodhound named Merlin appeared to be following Laci
Peterson's scent, and that is not justifiable.

Where is the corroboration? Who saw Laci at the marina? Eyewitnesses
corroborated the fact that Scott was at the marina, alone. This is
extremely bizarre and presumptuous corroboration -like denying Merlin
the tracking dog, the opportunity to follow Laci Peterson's scent.
Delucchi's peculiar obsession to dismiss the fact that nobody saw Laci
at the marina, not to mention the fact that she was witnessed walking
her dog on December 24th, clearly indicates that the so called,
"corroborated" dog-tracking evidence is nothing more than the bizarre
theory that the National Enquirer publicized. That is not even what
you call evidence, let alone, corroborated evidence.


http://www.geocities.com/botenth/national.htm

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 15:45:54 -0500, Dave Smith
> arranged random neurons, so they looked
like this:

>notbob wrote:
>
>> On 2004-03-05, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>> > News just in!
>>
>> Is she guilty? Probably. But, it sticks in my craw that the like of Hilary
>> and Ken Lay are living the high life while they hang Martha out to dry.
>
>My biggest concern is that Bush will start another war to divert attention from
>the problems with the stock market. It is a pretty good system in theory, but
>we are seeing far too many cases of people manipulating stocks and screwing
>their shareholders of their hard earned money.
>
The war thing didn't work for Dubyuh's daddy. Turned out it *was* the
economy. Looks like the second Bush verse will be the same as the
first.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret
had been as old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had
been as full as the waitress', it would have been a very
good dinner." Anonymous.

To reply, remove replace "shcox" with "cox"

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 15:13:52 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:
>>
>The war thing didn't work for Dubyuh's daddy. Turned out it *was* the
>economy. Looks like the second Bush verse will be the same as the
>first.
>
>Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

from your lips to god's ear.

your pal,
blake

I hope that bitch gets the chair.

--
John Gaughan
http://www.johngaughan.net/

John Gaughan > wrote in
:

> I hope that bitch gets the chair.
>

I hope you're sitting next to her.

>John Gaughan > wrote in
:
>
>> I hope that bitch gets the chair.
>>
>
>I hope you're sitting next to her.
>

Or on her lap .. I'm sure he would get a charge out of that.

~Kat


What did my hands do before they held you?
Sylvia Plath (1932 - 1963)

John Gaughan wrote:

> I hope that bitch gets the chair.

And paints it bright, festive colors. :-)

Seems to me automatic that ... oops, it's noon, FoodTV will have on
Martha Stewart. Guess who's *not* on FoodTV at noon today.

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:

> Seems to me automatic that ... oops, it's noon, FoodTV will have on
> Martha Stewart. Guess who's *not* on FoodTV at noon today.
>


Hmmm...wonder how this will go down with the airing of her TV show, her
merchandise franchising biz, etc.? Will her sponsors drop her like a hot
rock or will there be enough of a "sympathy" backlash for her so that peeps
will continue buying her stuff...???

--
Best
Greg