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Saerah 21-02-2004 12:54 AM

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Donna Rose wrote in message ...
>In article >, says...
>>it bugs me how i have to *explain* this to new cashiers, who will
>>put a dripping whole chicken in with a head of lettuce.
>>

>This is amazing to me. Are you saying that there is absolutely no
>training on 'packing techniques' given to new supermarket employees?
>--


yes, there is training. and the "rulebook" for my department says pretty
much what i said. i guess no one reads it.

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Saerah

TANSTAAFL

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Saerah 21-02-2004 12:59 AM

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Rick & Cyndi wrote in message ...
>Oh... I recently got to go to Zingerman's. Whoa. Totally cool!
>We bought some wonderful bread, Parmesana-Reggiano (SP?) cheese,
>Cider Syrup, a Zingerman's cookbook (very, very neat!), olive
>oil, and a handful of other stuff too. I really like that place.
>Crowded but filled with wonderful goodies.
>
>Our brother lives in Bellville, MI and we try to make it up there
>at least once a year.
>


zingerman's *does* kick butt. we sell some of their breads where i work, and
they are definitely delish :)

--
Saerah

TANSTAAFL

Hangovers only last a day, but a good drinking story lives on forever....





Pennyaline 21-02-2004 02:13 AM

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"Nancy Young" wrote:
> Dog3 wrote:
> > I'll
> > never forget the time a bakery cake was put in the bag upside down. I
> > marched in to speak to the manager (I noticed the cake when putting the
> > groceries in the car). He was really snotty about it but did reimburse

me
> > for the cake.

>
> Wow, had you done something to **** off all the store employees, that
> is just ridiculous. Too funny. They'd better reimburse you, duh.
> What is it with customer service being snotty? I guess having to
> deal with complainers all day gets old, but geez.


You don't have to do anything to annoy them in order for them to screw up
packing your order. I'll never forget the day I found a fresh fruit pie
packed on its side in a grocery bag. I went back into the store and stalked
the jerk who did it, and he airily explained that it fit in the bag better
that way.

Short of sawing his head off, I couldn't come up with any way to boost the
young man's IQ.


> I did once complain to the headquarters about a customer service guy.
> Actually I complained about a couple of things, I really was annoyed.
> So, I got a nice long note from the store manager, she said she had
> called a staff meeting and given them the word on how you treat the
> customers and how to ring up meat so it doesn't multiply the price
> by 10. Yikes, I blushed. Then she said, I would like to meet
> you, and I have left a $25 certificate for you at the customer service
> desk. Yeah, I'm picking that up!!! Hi, I'm the one who complained
> about you, can I have my certificate? Sure, right after I tattoo
> BITCH on your forehead, lady. (laugh)


I've complained to HQ in the past, too. I stopped when I decided I'd gotten
enough "So what?" responses.




Rick & Cyndi 21-02-2004 02:28 AM

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:
: > "StocksRus®" & Cyndi"
: >
: > <snip>
: > \: I live in Krogers hometown and have done lot's of business
: > with them over
: >: the years. Meaning they were a BIG customer of mine.
: >: Two words come to mind...
: >: THEY SUCK!
: >: I avoid them as much as possible. I'm fortunate enough to
have
: > a very
: >: cool place within 20 miles called Jungle Jims that has
: > everything and
: >: more that I need. 5 acres of fresh produce, $1,000,000,000
: > inventory of
: >: wine, and all ethnic cuisines.
: >: :
: >: --
: >: StocksRus®
: >:
: >: ===========
: >
: > Lucky dog! I adore Jungle Jims!! Have they installed the
: > monorail system yet?
:
: No....but it grows every week. It now has a garden center, just
added a
: British food section. Four isles of hot sauces.
: Curious...how do you know of Jungles?
:
: --
: StocksRus®
: ===

Our aunt, uncle and half-dozen or so of cousins live in Cincy.

The last trip out there we stocked up on some coconut milk ($0.29
each!!), 26 oz Nutella for about $ 5.00, Roasted Chipotle and
Raspberry Sauce (rocks!), truffle oil, and etc.! Lovely, lovely
place!

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Rick & Cyndi 21-02-2004 02:31 AM

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"AT" > wrote in message
...
: Why don't just you place the items on the conveyor belt as you
want them to be
: bagged? Group items by type and put the cans, bottles and heavy
things on the belt
: first (those bags will be placed on the bottom of the cart),
then the dairy, then
: the meats, then the heavy veggies, then the delicate
veggies/fruits, last the
: bakery items. It ain't rocket science, you know. It doesn't
take any longer
: either.
=====

You must have missed my follow up post because I did load the
belt that way. Silly waif girl waited until the bin area was
full and then she just grabbed stuff and filled the bags
willy-nilly. I always load the belt they way I want them bagged.
Meats together, frozen vegetables then the frozen fruit. I'm
quite anal about it.


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Puester 21-02-2004 02:58 AM

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Pennyaline wrote:

> I've complained to HQ in the past, too. I stopped when I decided I'd gotten
> enough "So what?" responses.



A few years ago I complained directly to the Health Department
after watching a fish dept. clerk making a phone call with
his disposable gloves on. He ran his gloved hands through his
hair numerous times, finished his call, then waited on me, using
the same gloves to pick up scallops from the tray. He was
surprised when I said I no longer wanted the scallops and told
him why. I stopped and told the manager on the way out, then
(because I realized neither one of them had a clue about the
health implications) I called the local Health Department, grocery
store division, and asked them to check on the store's training
practices. I did get a follow-up call from the inspector.
And it WAS a local Denver-area Kroger store, King Soopers.

gloria p

D.Currie 21-02-2004 05:37 AM

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"Dog3" <dognospam@adjfkdla;not> wrote in message
4...
> "Rick & Cyndi" > deliciously posted in
> news:zBbZb.80923$uV3.537834@attbi_s51:
>
> > Aarrgghh!!! As usual - shopping was not a pleasure...
> > unfortunately, it's the largest grocer around us so unless I want
> > to drive a few hours... I don't have any other real choices.
> >
> > Anyway... they've remodeled so this week is their Grand
> > (re)opening... blah, blah, blah. As expected, the shelves don't
> > really hold anything different from what they used to... so I
> > just ran through and stocked up on some of the meat sales and a
> > few odds and ends. Here's where the frustration really got me
> > muttering and I *will* be writing a complaint because this sh&%
> > keeps happening... arrgghhh!!! I bought those 100 % juice juice
> > box drinks for Nathan... I bought some supposedly vine-ripe
> > tomatoes, yogurt (what's with those stupid foil tops that break
> > when you don't want them to and yet you can't open them when
> > you're starving?!), milk, a few canned goods (okay, here's the
> > one positive thing I noticed - they're *finally* carrying a few
> > of the Ro-Tel tomatoes), and a bunch of other stuff to fill the
> > basket... Fast forward to emptying the bags at home when... S C
> > R E A M!! On the bottom of a bag full of canned goods are my
> > bananas... in one of the bags of the juice boxes are my
> > vine-ripened tomatoes and my big bag of lettuce is sandwiched
> > with frozen food! There was also something heavy in the bag with
> > the loaf of bread... AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!! I hate that store, I
> > hate that store, I HATE THAT STORE!!!!! They still can't bother
> > to order any white wine vinegar either!!! Stupid muckity
> > muck.... !!!! Ow - a vein just blew!! Not really, but stupid
> > crap like this really busts my chops.
> >
> > OB: I sliced up one of the now bruised tomatoes and sprinkled on
> > some delicious Brady Street Seasoning from Penzeys. Very, very
> > tasty.

>
> Sounds like a chain we used to have here. The shopping experience at
> National was hit or miss, depending on which store you shopped at. I'll
> never forget the time a bakery cake was put in the bag upside down. I
> marched in to speak to the manager (I noticed the cake when putting the
> groceries in the car). He was really snotty about it but did reimburse me
> for the cake.
>
> The best thing you can do besides complain is to open that bottle of Vodka
> and pour up a nice martini to settle the nerves. Provided the checkout
> people managed to put it in the bag :)
>
> Michael
>
> --
> "Most of all he liked grilled mutton kidneys which gave to his palate a
> fine tang of scented urine."
> ~~James Joyce, Irish writer (1882-1941)


Before I moved there was one store where the baggers were sometimes
amazingly incompetent. The worst was the container of cottage cheese laid on
its side with a bag of potatoes on top of it.



AT 21-02-2004 03:35 PM

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wrote:
> "AT" > wrote in message
> ...
> : Why don't just you place the items on the conveyor belt as you
> want them to be
> : bagged? Group items by type and put the cans, bottles and heavy
> things on the belt
> : first (those bags will be placed on the bottom of the cart),
> then the dairy, then
> : the meats, then the heavy veggies, then the delicate
> veggies/fruits, last the
> : bakery items. It ain't rocket science, you know. It doesn't
> take any longer
> : either.
> =====
>
> You must have missed my follow up post because I did load the
> belt that way. Silly waif girl waited until the bin area was
> full and then she just grabbed stuff and filled the bags
> willy-nilly. I always load the belt they way I want them bagged.
> Meats together, frozen vegetables then the frozen fruit. I'm
> quite anal about it.


Well then, as you start loading the belt, tell both, the cashier and bagger, that
*you want them to ring up and bag the items in the -exact- order you are placing
them on the belt* and say it loud enough so that the other people around you can
hear. Don't worry about sounding like a bitch; it's your money and your time,
don't let anybody waste them.

Rick & Cyndi 21-02-2004 04:30 PM

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"AT" & Cyndi had a strange conversation...

<snip>
: > You must have missed my follow up post because I did load the
: > belt that way. Silly waif girl waited until the bin area was
: > full and then she just grabbed stuff and filled the bags
: > willy-nilly. I always load the belt they way I want them
bagged.
: > Meats together, frozen vegetables then the frozen fruit. I'm
: > quite anal about it.
:
: Well then, as you start loading the belt, tell both, the
cashier and bagger, that
: *you want them to ring up and bag the items in the -exact-
order you are placing
: them on the belt* and say it loud enough so that the other
people around you can
: hear. Don't worry about sounding like a bitch; it's your money
and your time,
: don't let anybody waste them.
===========

Ummmm... noooooo... I don't think that would work. I don't know
of any way to do as you propose without it coming out bit%&y or
aggressive... they actually *do* have a couple of baggers that
know what they're doing - I just can't seem to be in the right
line to get them! <g>

While I'm past the hissy part of my fit - it will not go
unforgotten. Letters to the local store and corporate office are
in the works.
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DJS0302 21-02-2004 07:29 PM

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>...I'll
>never forget the time a bakery cake was put in the bag upside down. I
>marched in to speak to the manager (I noticed the cake when putting the
>groceries in the car). He was really snotty about it but did reimburse me
>for the cake.


I used to work at Kroger's first as a bagger, then a checker, and then as a
baker in the pastry shop. I can't tell you how many times a bagger would bring
back a cake that somehow got messed up before the customer got it out of the
store. The worst part was that we would have to stop what we were doing and
decorate a new cake for the the customer for free. So not only did we lose the
sale of the first cake, we lost the sale of the second cake too.



Rick & Cyndi 21-02-2004 09:28 PM

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"Dog3" <dognospam@adjfkdla;not> wrote in message
4...
: ospam (DJS0302) deliciously posted in
: :
:
: >>...I'll
: >>never forget the time a bakery cake was put in the bag upside
down. I
: >>marched in to speak to the manager (I noticed the cake when
putting
: >>the groceries in the car). He was really snotty about it but
did
: >>reimburse me for the cake.
: >
: > I used to work at Kroger's first as a bagger, then a checker,
and then
: > as a baker in the pastry shop. I can't tell you how many
times a
: > bagger would bring back a cake that somehow got messed up
before the
: > customer got it out of the store. The worst part was that we
would
: > have to stop what we were doing and decorate a new cake for
the the
: > customer for free. So not only did we lose the sale of the
first
: > cake, we lost the sale of the second cake too.
:
: That situation would put me in a murderous mood if I was the
baker. I
: can't understand how you could keep from going to the meat
department,
: borrow a giant cleaver, and serve up some cubed bagger :)
:
: Michael
: --
======

SNORT!!! Gosh Michael, have I told you lately how much I'm glad
that you're back?!
Cyndi
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Tim Vanhoof 21-02-2004 09:45 PM

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Dog3 <dognospam@adjfkdla;not> wrote:

>
> The best thing you can do besides complain is to open that bottle of Vodka
> and pour up a nice martini to settle the nerves. Provided the checkout
> people managed to put it in the bag :)
>


If you were making a martini, why would you need a bottle of vodka?


Rick & Cyndi 21-02-2004 10:11 PM

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"Tim Vanhoof" > wrote in message
...
: Dog3 <dognospam@adjfkdla;not> wrote:
:
: >
: > The best thing you can do besides complain is to open that
bottle of Vodka
: > and pour up a nice martini to settle the nerves. Provided the
checkout
: > people managed to put it in the bag :)
: >
:
: If you were making a martini, why would you need a bottle of
vodka?
: ====

For a Vodka Martini. Seriously. That's one of the drinks I used
to drink...
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Rick & Cyndi 21-02-2004 10:56 PM

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"Dog3" & Cyndi" > deliciously posted in
: news:vIQZb.32763$4o.49324@attbi_s52:
:
: > "Tim Vanhoof" > wrote in message
: > ...
: >: Dog3 <dognospam@adjfkdla;not> wrote:
: >:
: >: >
: >: > The best thing you can do besides complain is to open that
: > bottle of Vodka
: >: > and pour up a nice martini to settle the nerves. Provided
the
: > checkout
: >: > people managed to put it in the bag :)
: >: >
: >:
: >: If you were making a martini, why would you need a bottle of
: > vodka?
: >: ====
: >
: > For a Vodka Martini. Seriously. That's one of the drinks I
used
: > to drink...
:
: et tu Cyndi? *sigh* I miss the good old days of wandering
around in a
: drunken stupor or sitting with a nice wine on a bistro patio.
I had to
: give up booze for medication. Naturally I don't have to but I
drank one
: time while on these meds and I'll never do it again. Ya' could
have peeled
: me off the ceiling.
:
: Michael
========

Well.... luckily I haven't needed to "give it up" but I also
don't hang in the same circles that I used to. <VBG> Actually,
it was in your neck of the woods that I used to imbibe in the
occasional V.M.. There used to be a very lovely restaurant
"Cartier's". At least, that's the name I remember it to be...
It opened in the mid to late 80s. Had a lot of brass railing in
it and according to the owners, it was there contribution to the
memory of when they were in New Orleans. <shrug> Excellent
food... the veal was sublime.

Prior to hanging out in STL I used to spend more time closer to
home, in Belleville, and basically paid for the remodeling at the
VFW, right outside of the base...<G> Oh my gosh... Kahlua and
Cream (okay, milk!), the blackberry brandies.... even a few
beers... Endless hours of shooting pool and dancing to "Amanda"
and giggling at "Velcro Fly" and "Pearl Necklace"... I think I'm
getting old....

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Rick & Cyndi 22-02-2004 04:19 AM

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"Dog3" & Cyndi" > deliciously posted in

<snip>
: I've never been to Cartier's and I don't think I've heard of a
restaurant
: by that name. Doesn't mean it does/did not exist. I just
never tied one
: on there. Do you remember which part of town it was in?
:
: Our mis-spent youth... LOL... In those days I could party
until dawn and
: be at work by 8am and go out and do it all over again the next
night.
:
: Michael
:=========

I'm guessing that they probably only lasted a couple of years...
89 was the last time I was there. Yummy, yummy veal!

I want to say it was on Lindburgh (yeah, I know, very long
street...!) and it has been so long and I've lived in and drove
through so many towns since then.

Oh my... yep, back then, I was married and in the Air Force and
had a waitress job... Get up at 6 take spouse to work, get into
waitress outfit, work 7:30-2:30, shower, get into uniform, work
3:30-12m, party at VFW 12:08-3:00a, go to bed, get up at 6a....
Yep, I was definitely younger back then to be able to do that 5
and 6 days a week. Then my spouse couldn't understand why I
wanted to sleep all day on my 1 day off a week.

Go figure.

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Frogleg 22-02-2004 02:21 PM

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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:16:50 -0500, "Saerah"
> wrote:

>i went to a superkmart a few months ago to get some shallots on sale. they
>have this look up screen with *pictures* on it to help them identify the
>produce. i couldnt belive it. i told her the code and the checker snarled at
>me and told me it would only take her a minute to locate my item. i was
>surprised because where i work, we are expected to *memorize* produce codes,
>and identify the organic produce from the conventional produce without
>looking at stickers. we have tests on these things. and parsely and cilantro
>look quite different. if you're ever in doubt, you can always smell it :)


No kidding! I'd say every other time I buy an artichoke, the register
clerk asks what it is. The produce clerk didn't know what avocados
were for. Not that I expect every supermarket clerk to be Joe
Carcione. Or Julia Child. How *do* you recognize 'organic' vs. non?

Saerah 23-02-2004 04:16 AM

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Frogleg wrote in message >...
>On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:16:50 -0500, "Saerah"
> wrote:
>
>>i went to a superkmart a few months ago to get some shallots on sale. they
>>have this look up screen with *pictures* on it to help them identify the
>>produce. i couldnt belive it. i told her the code and the checker snarled

at
>>me and told me it would only take her a minute to locate my item. i was
>>surprised because where i work, we are expected to *memorize* produce

codes,
>>and identify the organic produce from the conventional produce without
>>looking at stickers. we have tests on these things. and parsely and

cilantro
>>look quite different. if you're ever in doubt, you can always smell it :)

>
>No kidding! I'd say every other time I buy an artichoke, the register
>clerk asks what it is. The produce clerk didn't know what avocados
>were for. Not that I expect every supermarket clerk to be Joe
>Carcione. Or Julia Child. How *do* you recognize 'organic' vs. non?


we do 'produce walks' every morning, to see whats out that day. in actual
practise, i look at the stickers, though, when we have both organic and
non-organic of a certain item that day. when i started, the girl who was
training me was glad that i knew what all of the veggies and fruits were
already :) the only thing i had trouble with was jicama- which, i knew
*what* it was, but had never seen it or cooked with it, so i wasnt able to
identify it that time :(

--
Saerah

TANSTAAFL

"Strange women lying in ponds distributing
swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive
power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some
farcical aquatic ceremony."





sf 23-02-2004 06:25 AM

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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:21:15 GMT, Frogleg
> wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:16:50 -0500, "Saerah"
> > wrote:
>
> >i went to a superkmart a few months ago to get some shallots on sale. they
> >have this look up screen with *pictures* on it to help them identify the
> >produce. i couldnt belive it. i told her the code and the checker snarled at
> >me and told me it would only take her a minute to locate my item. i was
> >surprised because where i work, we are expected to *memorize* produce codes,
> >and identify the organic produce from the conventional produce without
> >looking at stickers. we have tests on these things. and parsely and cilantro
> >look quite different. if you're ever in doubt, you can always smell it :)

>
> No kidding! I'd say every other time I buy an artichoke, the register
> clerk asks what it is. The produce clerk didn't know what avocados
> were for.


I hope know you've just reinforced what I think about most
non-coastal big cities? Unfortunately, I think you live on
the E. Coast... so let's reiterate "big city".

> Not that I expect every supermarket clerk to be Joe
> Carcione. Or Julia Child. How *do* you recognize 'organic' vs. non?


You don't! They need to be labeled.




Practice safe eating - always use condiments

Frogleg 23-02-2004 01:00 PM

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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 06:25:48 GMT, sf > wrote:

>On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:21:15 GMT, Frogleg
> wrote:


>> I'd say every other time I buy an artichoke, the register
>> clerk asks what it is. The produce clerk didn't know what avocados
>> were for.

>
>I hope know you've just reinforced what I think about most
>non-coastal big cities? Unfortunately, I think you live on
>the E. Coast... so let's reiterate "big city".


Not 'big city' -- sprawling SE Virginia coastal 'metropolitan' area
with considerable variation. I live in an under-served area, as far as
groceries are concerned. My days shopping at Draegers are long over.
>
>> How *do* you recognize 'organic' vs. non?

>
>You don't! They need to be labeled.


But Saerah said she takes a walk 'round (to labeled bins, one assumes)
and can distinguish the difference by look later.

Frogleg 23-02-2004 01:08 PM

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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:22:31 +0100, Nathalie Chiva
> wrote:

>Frogleg a écrit :
>
>> Bagging your own stuff (common in Europe, I believe) can reduce these
>> problems.

>
>Not only common - it's the only way. Reading this thread, I don't regret it....


There was, briefly, a discount grocery store here which had
self-bagging and the same arrangement I remember from Norway -- a sort
of shunt that sent A's groceries one way, and B's (next customer)
another, so that B was being checked out while A was finishing up
gathering its purchases. Seemed to work very well.

Frogleg 23-02-2004 01:33 PM

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On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 02:20:12 GMT, "Rick & Cyndi"
> wrote:

>"Anthony" > wrote


>: Also the OP should think about whether it's worth
>getting this
>: upset over a little bump in the road of life. If she does then
>maybe
>: medication would help.


>Humph! Yes I do and no it hasn't!
>
>This ****es me off. There is NO excuse for most of their baggers
>to REPEATEDLY bag groceries improperly. I'd bag my own but the
>do it yourself lanes are for 15 items or less and I do not intend
>on going up and down the aisles, check out, load my car, repeat,
>repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat.


There *is* an excuse. Grocery baggers are not rocket scientists, nor
are they paid to be. If the store gives them no training, or trains
contrary to your expectations (like me not wanting all the similar
heavy things bagged together), you can register a complaint. As I said
heavy -- maybe more people like similar items together more than
balanced weight. I don't know about your store, but there's no
prohibition against 'bagging your own' in either the express or snail
checkout lines at my supermarket.

Yes, it seems pretty basic not to put the tomatoes or bananas at the
bottom and the canned goods on top. Truly worth a complaint. Of
course, a little tough to identify the miscreant and get a
minimum-wage (if that) worker fired. It might be kinder to all the
next time you're in the store to say to the manager, "I don't remember
exactly which person did it, but can't you train baggers not to put a
gallon of juice on top of the bread?"

>On the other hand - my original post was marked "OT" and "Rant"
>therefore... well...uhhh... back off, please. I wasn't looking
>for negative comments especially since I already dealt with
>enough crap today.


OT and Rant should give you a lot of slack. :-) But we're an
argumentative bunch. I mean, you can be criticized for using lettuce,
f'r heaven's sake!

One of *my* complaints is that people don't complain enough. And that
there are so few entities that can actually change the situation. My
supermarket manager may be sympathetic to my wants and needs, but if
HQ allows no time for training, nor incentives for superior
performance, there's not a lot he/she can do. Modern life is *not*
what I expected. :-)

Saerah 23-02-2004 03:29 PM

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Frogleg wrote in message ...
>On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 06:25:48 GMT, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:21:15 GMT, Frogleg
> wrote:

>
>>> I'd say every other time I buy an artichoke, the register
>>> clerk asks what it is. The produce clerk didn't know what avocados
>>> were for.

>>
>>I hope know you've just reinforced what I think about most
>>non-coastal big cities? Unfortunately, I think you live on
>>the E. Coast... so let's reiterate "big city".

>
>Not 'big city' -- sprawling SE Virginia coastal 'metropolitan' area
>with considerable variation. I live in an under-served area, as far as
>groceries are concerned. My days shopping at Draegers are long over.
>>
>>> How *do* you recognize 'organic' vs. non?

>>
>>You don't! They need to be labeled.

>
>But Saerah said she takes a walk 'round (to labeled bins, one assumes)
>and can distinguish the difference by look later.


also, for things liek cucumbers and zuchinni, that get waxed if
conventional, they are not waxed if they are organic. since the organic
produce and the conventional produce come from different farms, usually the
grapefruits are diffeent shades or shapes, etc.

--
Saerah

TANSTAAFL

"Strange women lying in ponds distributing
swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive
power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some
farcical aquatic ceremony."




AT 23-02-2004 07:30 PM

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wrote:

> : Well then, as you start loading the belt, tell both, the
> cashier and bagger, that
> : *you want them to ring up and bag the items in the -exact-
> order you are placing
> : them on the belt* and say it loud enough so that the other
> people around you can
> : hear. Don't worry about sounding like a bitch; it's your money
> and your time,
> : don't let anybody waste them.
> ===========
>
> Ummmm... noooooo... I don't think that would work. I don't know
> of any way to do as you propose without it coming out bit%&y or
> aggressive...


Of course! What was I thinking! How could you come across as bitchy or aggressive
to those who "REPEATEDLY" ruin your groceries and waste your time.

"Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result each time. If
something doesn't work the way you do it, try changing how you do it! Don't rant
because every time you do it the way you do it, it doesn't do what you want."
Siobhan Perricone dixit.


John W 23-02-2004 09:50 PM

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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:21:15 GMT, Frogleg > wrote:

>On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:16:50 -0500, "Saerah"
> wrote:
>
>>i went to a superkmart a few months ago to get some shallots on sale. they
>>have this look up screen with *pictures* on it to help them identify the
>>produce. i couldnt belive it. i told her the code and the checker snarled at
>>me and told me it would only take her a minute to locate my item. i was
>>surprised because where i work, we are expected to *memorize* produce codes,
>>and identify the organic produce from the conventional produce without
>>looking at stickers. we have tests on these things. and parsely and cilantro
>>look quite different. if you're ever in doubt, you can always smell it :)

>
>No kidding! I'd say every other time I buy an artichoke, the register
>clerk asks what it is. The produce clerk didn't know what avocados
>were for. Not that I expect every supermarket clerk to be Joe
>Carcione. Or Julia Child. How *do* you recognize 'organic' vs. non?


Several years ago I worked in the IT department of a local grocery
chain, now defunct, Food Barn, a buy out of the Safeway chain in KC.
In my management position I attended the weekly managers staff meeting
and my usual seat was directly behind the President of the company,
probably because everyone else was looking for face time.

The subject came up that the cashiers were not recognizing the
difference between large and small avacados, charging for the small
ones more often than not. So to encourage the cashier to be more
attentive the President thought that they should be given a 25 cent
per hour raise. As he polled the other managers getting rave
aggrements, under my breath too loud for my own good, I exclained
that $500 per year probably wouldn't make a lick of difference. The
room got silent as Mr. Wilson turned and asked my opinion. I offered a
Nation Retail Merchants Association Study that showed employees forget
the monetary raises within a fews days to weeks. Training and
education worked far better than to gain such desired results.

Later in my office he commended me for taking a differing stand, they
got their raise anyway, but not being a yes man didn't hurt me

John W



Nathalie Chiva 24-02-2004 10:27 AM

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Frogleg a écrit :

> On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:22:31 +0100, Nathalie Chiva
> > wrote:
>
> >Frogleg a écrit :
> >
> >> Bagging your own stuff (common in Europe, I believe) can reduce these
> >> problems.

> >
> >Not only common - it's the only way. Reading this thread, I don't regret it....

>
> There was, briefly, a discount grocery store here which had
> self-bagging and the same arrangement I remember from Norway -- a sort
> of shunt that sent A's groceries one way, and B's (next customer)
> another, so that B was being checked out while A was finishing up
> gathering its purchases. Seemed to work very well.


Yep, that's what we have here (the shunt thingie). And yes, it works well.

Nathalie in Switzerland




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