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New car for young man
dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 1:58:42 PM UTC-10, > wrote: > > On Friday, April 16, 2021 at 10:17:33 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons > > wrote: > > > On Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 4:12:43 PM UTC-5, > > > wrote: > > > > On 4/14/2021 7:38 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 5:42:10 PM UTC-5, > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> On 4/14/2021 6:21 PM, Sqwertz wrote: > > > > >>> On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 19:09:10 -0400, jmcquown wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> On 4/12/2021 6:28 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote: > > > > >>>>> On Monday, April 12, 2021 at 4:39:14 PM UTC-5, > > > > wrote: >>>>>> On 4/11/2021 8:32 PM, John > > > > Kuthe wrote: >>>>>>> On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 6:54:33 PM > > > > UTC-5, wrote: >>>>>>>> On 4/11/2021 7:40 > > > > PM, John Kuthe wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at > > > > 6:37:10 PM UTC-5, wrote: >>>>>>>>> ... > > > > >>>>>>>>>> So now you're an armchair analyst too. Hating one's > > > > enemy is not a >>>>>>>>>> mental disorder. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> --Bryan > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hating anyone for such a specious reason > > > > >>>>>>>>> John Kuthe > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Nothing specious about it. You're a little bitch who > > > > just can't stop >>>>>>>> running your mouth. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Jill > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Can you tell me precisely what Bryan hates me for? > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> He seems reticent to explicate for me. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> He's told you many, many times, John. He did not > > > > appreciate your >>>>>> attempts to publicly "diagnose" him as a > > > > Narcissist. If you'd learn to >>>>>> keep your hands away from > > > > the keyboard you might still have him as a >>>>>> friend. Too > > > > late now. >>>>>> > > > > >>>>> That is precisely correct, Jill. He was warned over and > > > > over and over that >>>>> I would eventually retaliate. The > > > > option of friendship was over early on, >>>>> but I eventually > > > > went on offense. Questioning my character was one >>>>> thing, > > > > but claiming that he was professionally qualified to "diagnose" > > > > me >>>>> as mentally ill crossed a line. >>>>>> > > > > >>>>> --Bryan > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>> I skipped that particular Usenet soiree but you've > > > > mentioned it often >>>> enough. Now he's in denial, pretending > > > > he doesn't know why you hate >>>> him. Fact is, he is not > > > > qualified to "diagnose" anyone with anything. >>> > > > > >>> Diagnosing mental disorders would be a severe violation of > > > > his >>> nursing license... > > > > >>> > > > > >>> -sw > > > > >>> > > > > >> It certainly would be if Bryan had been under John's care as > > > > a nurse. >> HIPAA regulations and all that. Unfortunately, > > > > it's just a bunch of >> Usenet ramblings about Bryan's mental > > > > health. >> > > > > > John got kicked out of his first nursing school for that very > > > > > thing. Usenet, even more than LSD, has been the vehicle of > > > > > his self destruction. > > > > >> > > > > >> Gee, I thought Bryan was going to be so busy with his son's > > > > new house, >> renovations, the rental property next door. Nope, > > > > John keeps dangling >> and he keeps yanking that Kuthe chain. > > > > >> > > > > >> The result is a bit like watching 'The Family Feud'. Got > > > > popcorn? ;) >> > > > > > My son has had other stuff to deal with. He got rear ended on > > > > > the interstate by a hit and run driver, and the damage to his > > > > > car is extensive. He was not hurt. > > > > > --Bryan > > > > > > > > > Sorry to hear about the accident and I'm glad he's not hurt. > > > > > > > The insurance company totaled the car. He's getting a few hundred > > > dollars more than he still owes on it, but it was in almost new > > > shape. We were going to take over the payments on it when he got > > > a new car. Now I guess we'll just keep our subcompacts and wait > > > until we retire to get a hybrid. Oh, I didn't mention, it was a > > > Sonata hybrid. > > > > > He got a nicer car this afternoon. We jumped on the deal. Except > > for a little work place on the inside of the driver's side door, > > the thing looks showroom new. Not even a tiny scratch, and less > > than 50K miles. This exact one. > > https://www.vmcautos.com/infiniti-g3...r-sale-c462796 > > > > I wouldn't want one because of the poor MPG (18/25), but it's > > exactly what he wanted, and financing was only $1K down and $317/mo > > for 5 years for a damned near new condition luxury car, and he was > > more than $1K right-side-up on the Sonata, plus he'll get a sales > > tax exemption for the value of the wrecked car, so in a purely > > economic sense, the psycho hit-and-run driver did him a favor. > > > > When I was his age, I didn't even have a car, and had never even > > had a driver license. > > > > > > > > Jill > > > > > > > --Bryan > > > > > --Bryan > > It looks like a car more for old farts rather than a 19 year old. Hardly. It's nice. |
New car for young man
On 4/23/2021 8:19 PM, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > >> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 1:58:42 PM UTC-10, >> wrote: >>> On Friday, April 16, 2021 at 10:17:33 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons >>> wrote: >>>> On Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 4:12:43 PM UTC-5, >>>> wrote: >>>>> On 4/14/2021 7:38 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote: >>>>>> On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 5:42:10 PM UTC-5, >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> On 4/14/2021 6:21 PM, Sqwertz wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 19:09:10 -0400, jmcquown wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/12/2021 6:28 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 12, 2021 at 4:39:14 PM UTC-5, >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> On 4/11/2021 8:32 PM, John >>>>> Kuthe wrote: >>>>>>> On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 6:54:33 PM >>>>> UTC-5, wrote: >>>>>>>> On 4/11/2021 7:40 >>>>> PM, John Kuthe wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at >>>>> 6:37:10 PM UTC-5, wrote: >>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So now you're an armchair analyst too. Hating one's >>>>> enemy is not a >>>>>>>>>> mental disorder. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Bryan >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hating anyone for such a specious reason >>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing specious about it. You're a little bitch who >>>>> just can't stop >>>>>>>> running your mouth. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jill >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can you tell me precisely what Bryan hates me for? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> He seems reticent to explicate for me. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> He's told you many, many times, John. He did not >>>>> appreciate your >>>>>> attempts to publicly "diagnose" him as a >>>>> Narcissist. If you'd learn to >>>>>> keep your hands away from >>>>> the keyboard you might still have him as a >>>>>> friend. Too >>>>> late now. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That is precisely correct, Jill. He was warned over and >>>>> over and over that >>>>> I would eventually retaliate. The >>>>> option of friendship was over early on, >>>>> but I eventually >>>>> went on offense. Questioning my character was one >>>>> thing, >>>>> but claiming that he was professionally qualified to "diagnose" >>>>> me >>>>> as mentally ill crossed a line. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --Bryan >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I skipped that particular Usenet soiree but you've >>>>> mentioned it often >>>> enough. Now he's in denial, pretending >>>>> he doesn't know why you hate >>>> him. Fact is, he is not >>>>> qualified to "diagnose" anyone with anything. >>> >>>>>>>> Diagnosing mental disorders would be a severe violation of >>>>> his >>> nursing license... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -sw >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> It certainly would be if Bryan had been under John's care as >>>>> a nurse. >> HIPAA regulations and all that. Unfortunately, >>>>> it's just a bunch of >> Usenet ramblings about Bryan's mental >>>>> health. >> >>>>>> John got kicked out of his first nursing school for that very >>>>>> thing. Usenet, even more than LSD, has been the vehicle of >>>>>> his self destruction. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gee, I thought Bryan was going to be so busy with his son's >>>>> new house, >> renovations, the rental property next door. Nope, >>>>> John keeps dangling >> and he keeps yanking that Kuthe chain. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The result is a bit like watching 'The Family Feud'. Got >>>>> popcorn? ;) >> >>>>>> My son has had other stuff to deal with. He got rear ended on >>>>>> the interstate by a hit and run driver, and the damage to his >>>>>> car is extensive. He was not hurt. >>>>>> --Bryan >>>>>> >>>>> Sorry to hear about the accident and I'm glad he's not hurt. >>>>> >>>> The insurance company totaled the car. He's getting a few hundred >>>> dollars more than he still owes on it, but it was in almost new >>>> shape. We were going to take over the payments on it when he got >>>> a new car. Now I guess we'll just keep our subcompacts and wait >>>> until we retire to get a hybrid. Oh, I didn't mention, it was a >>>> Sonata hybrid. >>>> >>> He got a nicer car this afternoon. We jumped on the deal. Except >>> for a little work place on the inside of the driver's side door, >>> the thing looks showroom new. Not even a tiny scratch, and less >>> than 50K miles. This exact one. >>> https://www.vmcautos.com/infiniti-g3...r-sale-c462796 >>> >>> I wouldn't want one because of the poor MPG (18/25), but it's >>> exactly what he wanted, and financing was only $1K down and $317/mo >>> for 5 years for a damned near new condition luxury car, and he was >>> more than $1K right-side-up on the Sonata, plus he'll get a sales >>> tax exemption for the value of the wrecked car, so in a purely >>> economic sense, the psycho hit-and-run driver did him a favor. >>> >>> When I was his age, I didn't even have a car, and had never even >>> had a driver license. >>>>> >>>>> Jill >>>>> >>>> --Bryan >>>> >>> --Bryan >> >> It looks like a car more for old farts rather than a 19 year old. > > Hardly. It's nice. > The typical Infinity owner is in the mid 40s, but it is a decent car for someone past the Hot Rod stage of driving. |
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 19:19:56 -0500, cshenk wrote:
> Hardly. It's nice. You started a new thread, and quoted 117 lines, just to add 3 words? And you started 2 more OT threads from teh same original thread at the same time? Talk about abusing the system. -sw |
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Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 19:19:56 -0500, cshenk wrote: > > > Hardly. It's nice. > > > You started a new thread, and quoted 117 lines, just to add 3 words? > > And you started 2 more OT threads from teh same original thread at > the same time? > > Talk about abusing the system. > > -sw The subject line was abusive '**** John Kuthe' so I changed it. The reply was to what I replied to. |
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On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 2:20:05 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > > > On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 1:58:42 PM UTC-10, > > wrote: > > > On Friday, April 16, 2021 at 10:17:33 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons > > > wrote: > > > > On Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 4:12:43 PM UTC-5, > > > > wrote: > > > > > On 4/14/2021 7:38 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 5:42:10 PM UTC-5, > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> On 4/14/2021 6:21 PM, Sqwertz wrote: > > > > > >>> On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 19:09:10 -0400, jmcquown wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> On 4/12/2021 6:28 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote: > > > > > >>>>> On Monday, April 12, 2021 at 4:39:14 PM UTC-5, > > > > > wrote: >>>>>> On 4/11/2021 8:32 PM, John > > > > > Kuthe wrote: >>>>>>> On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 6:54:33 PM > > > > > UTC-5, wrote: >>>>>>>> On 4/11/2021 7:40 > > > > > PM, John Kuthe wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at > > > > > 6:37:10 PM UTC-5, wrote: >>>>>>>>> ... > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> So now you're an armchair analyst too. Hating one's > > > > > enemy is not a >>>>>>>>>> mental disorder. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> --Bryan > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hating anyone for such a specious reason > > > > > >>>>>>>>> John Kuthe > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Nothing specious about it. You're a little bitch who > > > > > just can't stop >>>>>>>> running your mouth. > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Jill > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> Can you tell me precisely what Bryan hates me for? > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> He seems reticent to explicate for me. > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> He's told you many, many times, John. He did not > > > > > appreciate your >>>>>> attempts to publicly "diagnose" him as a > > > > > Narcissist. If you'd learn to >>>>>> keep your hands away from > > > > > the keyboard you might still have him as a >>>>>> friend. Too > > > > > late now. >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>> That is precisely correct, Jill. He was warned over and > > > > > over and over that >>>>> I would eventually retaliate. The > > > > > option of friendship was over early on, >>>>> but I eventually > > > > > went on offense. Questioning my character was one >>>>> thing, > > > > > but claiming that he was professionally qualified to "diagnose" > > > > > me >>>>> as mentally ill crossed a line. >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>> --Bryan > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> I skipped that particular Usenet soiree but you've > > > > > mentioned it often >>>> enough. Now he's in denial, pretending > > > > > he doesn't know why you hate >>>> him. Fact is, he is not > > > > > qualified to "diagnose" anyone with anything. >>> > > > > > >>> Diagnosing mental disorders would be a severe violation of > > > > > his >>> nursing license... > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> -sw > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> It certainly would be if Bryan had been under John's care as > > > > > a nurse. >> HIPAA regulations and all that. Unfortunately, > > > > > it's just a bunch of >> Usenet ramblings about Bryan's mental > > > > > health. >> > > > > > > John got kicked out of his first nursing school for that very > > > > > > thing. Usenet, even more than LSD, has been the vehicle of > > > > > > his self destruction. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Gee, I thought Bryan was going to be so busy with his son's > > > > > new house, >> renovations, the rental property next door. Nope, > > > > > John keeps dangling >> and he keeps yanking that Kuthe chain. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> The result is a bit like watching 'The Family Feud'. Got > > > > > popcorn? ;) >> > > > > > > My son has had other stuff to deal with. He got rear ended on > > > > > > the interstate by a hit and run driver, and the damage to his > > > > > > car is extensive. He was not hurt. > > > > > > --Bryan > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to hear about the accident and I'm glad he's not hurt. > > > > > > > > > The insurance company totaled the car. He's getting a few hundred > > > > dollars more than he still owes on it, but it was in almost new > > > > shape. We were going to take over the payments on it when he got > > > > a new car. Now I guess we'll just keep our subcompacts and wait > > > > until we retire to get a hybrid. Oh, I didn't mention, it was a > > > > Sonata hybrid. > > > > > > > He got a nicer car this afternoon. We jumped on the deal. Except > > > for a little work place on the inside of the driver's side door, > > > the thing looks showroom new. Not even a tiny scratch, and less > > > than 50K miles. This exact one. > > > https://www.vmcautos.com/infiniti-g3...r-sale-c462796 > > > > > > I wouldn't want one because of the poor MPG (18/25), but it's > > > exactly what he wanted, and financing was only $1K down and $317/mo > > > for 5 years for a damned near new condition luxury car, and he was > > > more than $1K right-side-up on the Sonata, plus he'll get a sales > > > tax exemption for the value of the wrecked car, so in a purely > > > economic sense, the psycho hit-and-run driver did him a favor. > > > > > > When I was his age, I didn't even have a car, and had never even > > > had a driver license. > > > > > > > > > > Jill > > > > > > > > > --Bryan > > > > > > > --Bryan > > > > It looks like a car more for old farts rather than a 19 year old. > > Hardly. It's nice. I'm sure it's a nice ride. My point was that it seems to be the type of car that an old guy would like, not a 19 year old. His dad would probably like riding in it. I'd like riding in it. I saw 3 marines driving around in a Volvo yesterday. They were 20ish. That was kind of weird. It made me nervous. There's no telling what 3 young marines in a Volvo might do. |
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On 4/23/2021 8:19 PM, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > >>> He got a nicer car this afternoon. We jumped on the deal. Except >>> for a little work place on the inside of the driver's side door, >>> the thing looks showroom new. Not even a tiny scratch, and less >>> than 50K miles. This exact one. >>> https://www.vmcautos.com/infiniti-g3...r-sale-c462796 >>> >>> I wouldn't want one because of the poor MPG (18/25), but it's >>> exactly what he wanted, and financing was only $1K down and $317/mo >>> for 5 years for a damned near new condition luxury car, and he was >>> more than $1K right-side-up on the Sonata, plus he'll get a sales >>> tax exemption for the value of the wrecked car, so in a purely >>> economic sense, the psycho hit-and-run driver did him a favor. >>> >>> --Bryan >> >> It looks like a car more for old farts rather than a 19 year old. > > Hardly. It's nice. > Nice, but not really practical. Jill |
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dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 2:20:05 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote: > > dsi1 wrote: > > > > > On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 1:58:42 PM UTC-10, > > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 16, 2021 at 10:17:33 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 4:12:43 PM UTC-5, > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > On 4/14/2021 7:38 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote: > > > > > > > On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 5:42:10 PM UTC-5, > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> On 4/14/2021 6:21 PM, Sqwertz wrote: > > > > > > >>> On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 19:09:10 -0400, jmcquown wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> On 4/12/2021 6:28 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> On Monday, April 12, 2021 at 4:39:14 PM UTC-5, > > > > > > wrote: >>>>>> On 4/11/2021 8:32 PM, > > > > > > John Kuthe wrote: >>>>>>> On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at > > > > > > 6:54:33 PM UTC-5, wrote: >>>>>>>> On > > > > > > 4/11/2021 7:40 PM, John Kuthe wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, > > > > > > April 11, 2021 at 6:37:10 PM UTC-5, > > > > > > wrote: >>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>> So now you're an armchair > > > > > > analyst too. Hating one's enemy is not a >>>>>>>>>> mental > > > > > > disorder. >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> --Bryan > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hating anyone for such a specious reason > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> John Kuthe > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Nothing specious about it. You're a little bitch > > > > > > who just can't stop >>>>>>>> running your mouth. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Jill > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Can you tell me precisely what Bryan hates me for? > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> He seems reticent to explicate for me. > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> He's told you many, many times, John. He did not > > > > > > appreciate your >>>>>> attempts to publicly "diagnose" him > > > > > > as a Narcissist. If you'd learn to >>>>>> keep your hands > > > > > > away from the keyboard you might still have him as a >>>>>> > > > > > > friend. Too late now. >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> That is precisely correct, Jill. He was warned over > > > > > > and over and over that >>>>> I would eventually retaliate. > > > > > > The option of friendship was over early on, >>>>> but I > > > > > > eventually went on offense. Questioning my character was > > > > > > one >>>>> thing, but claiming that he was professionally > > > > > > qualified to "diagnose" me >>>>> as mentally ill crossed a > > > > > > line. >>>>>> >>>>> --Bryan > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>> I skipped that particular Usenet soiree but you've > > > > > > mentioned it often >>>> enough. Now he's in denial, > > > > > > pretending he doesn't know why you hate >>>> him. Fact is, > > > > > > he is not qualified to "diagnose" anyone with anything. >>> > > > > > > >>> Diagnosing mental disorders would be a severe violation > > > > > > of his >>> nursing license... > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> -sw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> It certainly would be if Bryan had been under John's > > > > > > care as a nurse. >> HIPAA regulations and all that. > > > > > > Unfortunately, it's just a bunch of >> Usenet ramblings > > > > > > about Bryan's mental health. >> > > > > > > > John got kicked out of his first nursing school for that > > > > > > > very thing. Usenet, even more than LSD, has been the > > > > > > > vehicle of his self destruction. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Gee, I thought Bryan was going to be so busy with his > > > > > > son's new house, >> renovations, the rental property next > > > > > > door. Nope, John keeps dangling >> and he keeps yanking > > > > > > that Kuthe chain. >> > > > > > > >> The result is a bit like watching 'The Family Feud'. Got > > > > > > popcorn? ;) >> > > > > > > > My son has had other stuff to deal with. He got rear > > > > > > > ended on the interstate by a hit and run driver, and the > > > > > > > damage to his car is extensive. He was not hurt. > > > > > > > --Bryan > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to hear about the accident and I'm glad he's not > > > > > > hurt. > > > > > > > > > > > The insurance company totaled the car. He's getting a few > > > > > hundred dollars more than he still owes on it, but it was in > > > > > almost new shape. We were going to take over the payments on > > > > > it when he got a new car. Now I guess we'll just keep our > > > > > subcompacts and wait until we retire to get a hybrid. Oh, I > > > > > didn't mention, it was a Sonata hybrid. > > > > > > > > > He got a nicer car this afternoon. We jumped on the deal. > > > > Except for a little work place on the inside of the driver's > > > > side door, the thing looks showroom new. Not even a tiny > > > > scratch, and less than 50K miles. This exact one. > > > > https://www.vmcautos.com/infiniti-g3...r-sale-c462796 > > > > > > > > I wouldn't want one because of the poor MPG (18/25), but it's > > > > exactly what he wanted, and financing was only $1K down and > > > > $317/mo for 5 years for a damned near new condition luxury car, > > > > and he was more than $1K right-side-up on the Sonata, plus > > > > he'll get a sales tax exemption for the value of the wrecked > > > > car, so in a purely economic sense, the psycho hit-and-run > > > > driver did him a favor. > > > > > > > > When I was his age, I didn't even have a car, and had never > > > > even had a driver license. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jill > > > > > > > > > > > --Bryan > > > > > > > > > --Bryan > > > > > > It looks like a car more for old farts rather than a 19 year old. > > > > Hardly. It's nice. > > I'm sure it's a nice ride. My point was that it seems to be the type > of car that an old guy would like, not a 19 year old. His dad would > probably like riding in it. I'd like riding in it. I saw 3 marines > driving around in a Volvo yesterday. They were 20ish. That was kind > of weird. It made me nervous. There's no telling what 3 young marines > in a Volvo might do. What do you think a 20YO guy would drive? |
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On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:11:23 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > What do you think a 20YO guy would drive? My guess is any number of older 2 dr Toyota, Honda, or Subaru, car styled for younger buyers. I used to drive a Chevy Nova heap that my parents bought for me. My friend drove a Ford Falcon heap. My other friend drove a BMW 1600 coupe. That guy was probably smarter than the rest of us guys. He was so excited when he got that car. He took me on a scary ride on curvy road at high speed. Ha ha, he was more into cars than I was. A few years later I bought a Mercury Capri. It was a good looking car with a lowered, stiff, suspension, a loud exhaust, and nerf bars instead of a front bumper. It also had the other Capri features such as seats made of cheap materials that self-destructed, rear pop-out windows that fell out, and a trunk lid seal that just sucked exhaust gas into the interior i.e., the complete Capri experience. I remember having to stick my head out the window because the exhaust was impairing my vision. I loved that car! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktNPVeUnx1A |
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dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:11:23 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote: > > > > What do you think a 20YO guy would drive? > > My guess is any number of older 2 dr Toyota, Honda, or Subaru, car > styled for younger buyers. I used to drive a Chevy Nova heap that my > parents bought for me. My friend drove a Ford Falcon heap. My other > friend drove a BMW 1600 coupe. That guy was probably smarter than the > rest of us guys. He was so excited when he got that car. He took me > on a scary ride on curvy road at high speed. Ha ha, he was more into > cars than I was. A few years later I bought a Mercury Capri. It was > a good looking car with a lowered, stiff, suspension, a loud exhaust, > and nerf bars instead of a front bumper. It also had the other Capri > features such as seats made of cheap materials that self-destructed, > rear pop-out windows that fell out, and a trunk lid seal that just > sucked exhaust gas into the interior i.e., the complete Capri > experience. I remember having to stick my head out the window because > the exhaust was impairing my vision. I loved that car! > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktNPVeUnx1A The car he posted looks much like a capri of the 2020's and cheaper when you add in inflation. I call is a good car. |
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On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 2:58:39 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > > > On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:11:23 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote: > > > > > > What do you think a 20YO guy would drive? > > > > My guess is any number of older 2 dr Toyota, Honda, or Subaru, car > > styled for younger buyers. I used to drive a Chevy Nova heap that my > > parents bought for me. My friend drove a Ford Falcon heap. My other > > friend drove a BMW 1600 coupe. That guy was probably smarter than the > > rest of us guys. He was so excited when he got that car. He took me > > on a scary ride on curvy road at high speed. Ha ha, he was more into > > cars than I was. A few years later I bought a Mercury Capri. It was > > a good looking car with a lowered, stiff, suspension, a loud exhaust, > > and nerf bars instead of a front bumper. It also had the other Capri > > features such as seats made of cheap materials that self-destructed, > > rear pop-out windows that fell out, and a trunk lid seal that just > > sucked exhaust gas into the interior i.e., the complete Capri > > experience. I remember having to stick my head out the window because > > the exhaust was impairing my vision. I loved that car! > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktNPVeUnx1A > The car he posted looks much like a capri of the 2020's and cheaper > when you add in inflation. I call is a good car. The Infinity sedan is a very good, high quality, car. So what? |
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On 25/04/2021 01:58, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote: > >> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:11:23 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote: >>> >>> What do you think a 20YO guy would drive? >> >> My guess is any number of older 2 dr Toyota, Honda, or Subaru, car >> styled for younger buyers. I used to drive a Chevy Nova heap that my >> parents bought for me. My friend drove a Ford Falcon heap. My other >> friend drove a BMW 1600 coupe. That guy was probably smarter than the >> rest of us guys. He was so excited when he got that car. He took me >> on a scary ride on curvy road at high speed. Ha ha, he was more into >> cars than I was. A few years later I bought a Mercury Capri. It was >> a good looking car with a lowered, stiff, suspension, a loud exhaust, >> and nerf bars instead of a front bumper. It also had the other Capri >> features such as seats made of cheap materials that self-destructed, >> rear pop-out windows that fell out, and a trunk lid seal that just >> sucked exhaust gas into the interior i.e., the complete Capri >> experience. I remember having to stick my head out the window because >> the exhaust was impairing my vision. I loved that car! >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktNPVeUnx1A > > The car he posted looks much like a capri of the 2020's and cheaper > when you add in inflation. I call is a good car. === I used to have one of those many years ago:)) I loved it:)) |
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On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 12:11:30 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> On 25/04/2021 01:58, cshenk wrote: > > dsi1 wrote: > > > >> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 1:11:23 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote: > >>> > >>> What do you think a 20YO guy would drive? > >> > >> My guess is any number of older 2 dr Toyota, Honda, or Subaru, car > >> styled for younger buyers. I used to drive a Chevy Nova heap that my > >> parents bought for me. My friend drove a Ford Falcon heap. My other > >> friend drove a BMW 1600 coupe. That guy was probably smarter than the > >> rest of us guys. He was so excited when he got that car. He took me > >> on a scary ride on curvy road at high speed. Ha ha, he was more into > >> cars than I was. A few years later I bought a Mercury Capri. It was > >> a good looking car with a lowered, stiff, suspension, a loud exhaust, > >> and nerf bars instead of a front bumper. It also had the other Capri > >> features such as seats made of cheap materials that self-destructed, > >> rear pop-out windows that fell out, and a trunk lid seal that just > >> sucked exhaust gas into the interior i.e., the complete Capri > >> experience. I remember having to stick my head out the window because > >> the exhaust was impairing my vision. I loved that car! > >> > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktNPVeUnx1A > > > > The car he posted looks much like a capri of the 2020's and cheaper > > when you add in inflation. I call is a good car. > === > > I used to have one of those many years ago:)) I loved it:)) My late dentist use to have a 2003 Infinity G35 coupe. Hoo boy, what a looker that car is! He told me he was going to give it to his son when he got his driver's licence. That made me sad. Giving a kid that car is just asking for trouble. In fact, that car is too good for any kid. He must have made good on that because I'd see him driving some ratty sedan. That's just depressing! It's probably what killed him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FJLlCjBec |
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On 4/25/2021 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > My late dentist use to have a 2003 Infinity G35 coupe. Hoo boy, what a looker that car is! He told me he was going to give it to his son when he got his driver's licence. That made me sad. Giving a kid that car is just asking for trouble. In fact, that car is too good for any kid. He must have made good on that because I'd see him driving some ratty sedan. That's just depressing! It's probably what killed him. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FJLlCjBec > Giving a kid a car is foolish no matter what it is. They appreciate having it and will care for it more if they paid for it. |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/25/2021 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote: > > > > > My late dentist use to have a 2003 Infinity G35 coupe. Hoo boy, > > what a looker that car is! He told me he was going to give it to > > his son when he got his driver's licence. That made me sad. Giving > > a kid that car is just asking for trouble. In fact, that car is too > > good for any kid. He must have made good on that because I'd see > > him driving some ratty sedan. That's just depressing! It's probably > > what killed him. > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FJLlCjBec > > > > Giving a kid a car is foolish no matter what it is. They appreciate > having it and will care for it more if they paid for it. That applies to all gifts to all ages. No more gifts! -- The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net |
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On 4/25/2021 2:22 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/25/2021 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote: > >> >> My late dentist use to have a 2003 Infinity G35 coupe. Hoo boy, what a >> looker that car is! He told me he was going to give it to his son when >> he got his driver's licence. That made me sad. Giving a kid that car >> is just asking for trouble. In fact, that car is too good for any kid. >> He must have made good on that because I'd see him driving some ratty >> sedan. That's just depressing! It's probably what killed him. >> > > Giving a kid a car is foolish no matter what it is.Â* They appreciate > having it and will care for it more if they paid for it. In 1976 I went to school with a boy whose father bought him a Triumph TR7 for his sixteenth birthday. Rumor in school was the kid didn't like the white TR7 so the next week his father bought him one in blue. Can you say spoiled? I sincerely doubt he appreciated it. I worked and saved money and bought my first car. I took out a loan but I paid it off in 3 years. Didn't need a co-signer. My ex-husband did his damndest to ruin my credit but I paid off those debts. Some were cleared in the divorce proceedings. For example, I have no idea what happened to the washer and dryer he bought on credit without asking me. Maybe he sold them after I left. I made sure in filing the decree I was not responsible for any debts he incurred that I was not a party to (i.e. didn't include my signature.) But I digress... By age 24 I'd paid off any debts I was responsible for, re-established my credit and easily secured a bank loan. And yes, it felt wonderful when I wrote that last check to the bank three years later and owned the 1984 Toyota Corolla outright. :) Jill |
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On 2021-04-25 2:22 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/25/2021 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote: > >> >> My late dentist use to have a 2003 Infinity G35 coupe. Hoo boy, what a >> looker that car is! He told me he was going to give it to his son when >> he got his driver's licence. That made me sad. Giving a kid that car >> is just asking for trouble. In fact, that car is too good for any kid. >> He must have made good on that because I'd see him driving some ratty >> sedan. That's just depressing! It's probably what killed him. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FJLlCjBec >> > > Giving a kid a car is foolish no matter what it is.Â* They appreciate > having it and will care for it more if they paid for it. That reminded me of a friend in high school. His father gave him a (used) Mercedes sports car, a 190 IIRC. One day at noon hour he went over to the nearby mall and was fishtailing around on the snow covered parking lot. We slid right into the concrete base of on the the lamp stanchion. |
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On 2021-04-25 2:55 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> By age 24 I'd paid off any debts I was responsible for, re-established > my credit and easily secured a bank loan.Â* And yes, it felt wonderful > when I wrote that last check to the bank three years later and owned the > 1984 Toyota Corolla outright. :) > > Kids have it much easier these days. The cars are built so much better and last longer. When I was younger I had to commute about 40 miles each way to work and did a lot of driving around on my own time. I used to fiance them over 3-4 years and by that time they were pretty well worn out and rusted out so it would be time to buy a new one. |
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On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 8:22:55 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/25/2021 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote: > > > > > My late dentist use to have a 2003 Infinity G35 coupe. Hoo boy, what a looker that car is! He told me he was going to give it to his son when he got his driver's licence. That made me sad. Giving a kid that car is just asking for trouble. In fact, that car is too good for any kid. He must have made good on that because I'd see him driving some ratty sedan. That's just depressing! It's probably what killed him. > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FJLlCjBec > > > Giving a kid a car is foolish no matter what it is. They appreciate > having it and will care for it more if they paid for it. Giving a kid a car is what people with too much money like to do. I don't know why they do it, they just do. My brother has a friend that sells exotic cars. He says the rich kids come to America to go to school and their rich daddies will buy them a Ferrari, Lamborghini, et al. Sometimes the kid will crash it within minutes. One kid turned on the cruise control and got into the passenger seat because he thought the car was going to drive itself. Being rich - what a hellish existence. |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 14:22:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>On 4/25/2021 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote: > >> >> My late dentist use to have a 2003 Infinity G35 coupe. Hoo boy, what a looker that car is! He told me he was going to give it to his son when he got his driver's licence. That made me sad. Giving a kid that car is just asking for trouble. In fact, that car is too good for any kid. He must have made good on that because I'd see him driving some ratty sedan. That's just depressing! It's probably what killed him. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FJLlCjBec >> > >Giving a kid a car is foolish no matter what it is. They appreciate >having it and will care for it more if they paid for it. I hope all recipients take this to heart if a fiance buys an engagement ring... |
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On 25/04/2021 19:55, jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/25/2021 2:22 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 4/25/2021 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote: >> >>> >>> My late dentist use to have a 2003 Infinity G35 coupe. Hoo boy, what >>> a looker that car is! He told me he was going to give it to his son >>> when he got his driver's licence. That made me sad. Giving a kid that >>> car is just asking for trouble. In fact, that car is too good for any >>> kid. He must have made good on that because I'd see him driving some >>> ratty sedan. That's just depressing! It's probably what killed him. >>> >> >> Giving a kid a car is foolish no matter what it is.Â* They appreciate >> having it and will care for it more if they paid for it. > > In 1976 I went to school with a boy whose father bought him a Triumph > TR7 for his sixteenth birthday.Â* Rumor in school was the kid didn't like > the white TR7 so the next week his father bought him one in blue.Â* Can > you say spoiled?Â* I sincerely doubt he appreciated it. > > I worked and saved money and bought my first car.Â* I took out a loan but > I paid it off in 3 years.Â* Didn't need a co-signer.Â* My ex-husband did > his damndest to ruin my credit but I paid off those debts.Â* Some were > cleared in the divorce proceedings.Â* For example, I have no idea what > happened to the washer and dryer he bought on credit without asking me. > Maybe he sold them after I left.Â* I made sure in filing the decree I was > not responsible for any debts he incurred that I was not a party to > (i.e. didn't include my signature.)Â* But I digress... > > By age 24 I'd paid off any debts I was responsible for, re-established > my credit and easily secured a bank loan.Â* And yes, it felt wonderful > when I wrote that last check to the bank three years later and owned the > 1984 Toyota Corolla outright. :) > > Jill ===== Well done!!!!! |
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Dr. Bruce wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> On 4/25/2021 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote: >> >>> >>> My late dentist use to have a 2003 Infinity G35 coupe. Hoo boy, >>> what a looker that car is! He told me he was going to give it to >>> his son when he got his driver's licence. That made me sad. Giving >>> a kid that car is just asking for trouble. In fact, that car is too >>> good for any kid. He must have made good on that because I'd see >>> him driving some ratty sedan. That's just depressing! It's probably >>> what killed him. >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FJLlCjBec >>> >> >> Giving a kid a car is foolish no matter what it is. They appreciate >> having it and will care for it more if they paid for it. > > That applies to all gifts to all ages. No more gifts! > Someone should gift you a whiff of cyanide. |
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On 4/25/2021 4:20 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 14:22:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > >> On 4/25/2021 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote: >> >>> >>> My late dentist use to have a 2003 Infinity G35 coupe. Hoo boy, what a looker that car is! He told me he was going to give it to his son when he got his driver's licence. That made me sad. Giving a kid that car is just asking for trouble. In fact, that car is too good for any kid. He must have made good on that because I'd see him driving some ratty sedan. That's just depressing! It's probably what killed him. >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FJLlCjBec >>> >> >> Giving a kid a car is foolish no matter what it is. They appreciate >> having it and will care for it more if they paid for it. > > I hope all recipients take this to heart if a fiance buys an > engagement ring... > > What?! An engagement ring is "a gift given in contemplation of marriage". In most states, if the marriage doesn't take place it isn't considered a gift and the ring should be returned. Not so with a parent gifting their child a car. Especially not if they co-sign a loan for said car... the parents will be stuck if the child defaults on the loan. Jill |
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On 2021 Apr 25, , Dave Smith wrote
(in article >): > Kids have it much easier these days. The cars are built so much better > and last longer. When I was younger I had to commute about 40 miles > each way to work and did a lot of driving around on my own time. I used > to fiance them over 3-4 years and by that time they were pretty well > worn out and rusted out so it would be time to buy a new one. Don´t forget bias-plied tires. They didn´t last too long either. Retreads were big business. Radials were too expensive for commoners. Computerized ignition added a hundred thousand miles to vehicle life. Remember points, plugs and condenser? You had to change them all, and often, or ignition-timing went to hell and the engine suffered early death. |
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jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/25/2021 4:20 PM, Boron Elgar wrote: > >On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 14:22:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > > wrote: > > > > > On 4/25/2021 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > My late dentist use to have a 2003 Infinity G35 coupe. Hoo boy, > > > > what a looker that car is! He told me he was going to give it > > > > to his son when he got his driver's licence. That made me sad. > > > > Giving a kid that car is just asking for trouble. In fact, that > > > > car is too good for any kid. He must have made good on that > > > > because I'd see him driving some ratty sedan. That's just > > > > depressing! It's probably what killed him. > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FJLlCjBec > > > > > > > > > > Giving a kid a car is foolish no matter what it is. They > > > appreciate having it and will care for it more if they paid for > > > it. > > > > I hope all recipients take this to heart if a fiance buys an > > engagement ring... > > > > > What?! An engagement ring is "a gift given in contemplation of > marriage". In most states, if the marriage doesn't take place it > isn't considered a gift and the ring should be returned. Not so with > a parent gifting their child a car. Especially not if they co-sign a > loan for said car... the parents will be stuck if the child defaults > on the loan. The little Americans and their money. Such a source of angst. -- The real Dr. Bruce posts with uni-berlin.de - individual.net |
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Dr. Bruce wrote:
> jmcquown wrote: > >> On 4/25/2021 4:20 PM, Boron Elgar wrote: >>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 14:22:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > >> wrote: >>> >>>> On 4/25/2021 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> My late dentist use to have a 2003 Infinity G35 coupe. Hoo boy, >>>>> what a looker that car is! He told me he was going to give it >>>>> to his son when he got his driver's licence. That made me sad. >>>>> Giving a kid that car is just asking for trouble. In fact, that >>>>> car is too good for any kid. He must have made good on that >>>>> because I'd see him driving some ratty sedan. That's just >>>>> depressing! It's probably what killed him. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FJLlCjBec >>>>> >>>> >>>> Giving a kid a car is foolish no matter what it is. They >>>> appreciate having it and will care for it more if they paid for >>>> it. >>> >>> I hope all recipients take this to heart if a fiance buys an >>> engagement ring... >>> >>> >> What?! An engagement ring is "a gift given in contemplation of >> marriage". In most states, if the marriage doesn't take place it >> isn't considered a gift and the ring should be returned. Not so with >> a parent gifting their child a car. Especially not if they co-sign a >> loan for said car... the parents will be stuck if the child defaults >> on the loan. > > The little Americans and their money. Such a source of angst. > And many tiny sphincters for you to enjoy, master. |
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On 4/25/2021 7:38 PM, Leo wrote:
> On 2021 Apr 25, , Dave Smith wrote > (in article >): > >> Kids have it much easier these days. The cars are built so much better >> and last longer. When I was younger I had to commute about 40 miles >> each way to work and did a lot of driving around on my own time. I used >> to fiance them over 3-4 years and by that time they were pretty well >> worn out and rusted out so it would be time to buy a new one. > > Don´t forget bias-plied tires. They didn´t last too long either. Retreads > were big business. Radials were too expensive for commoners. > Computerized ignition added a hundred thousand miles to vehicle life. > Remember points, plugs and condenser? You had to change them all, and often, > or ignition-timing went to hell and the engine suffered early death. > > Bought a lot of retreads back in the 60s. Pulled plugs at 5000 miles to clean them and replaced them at 10,000. One big difference though, you could actually see the spark plugs to put a socket on them. |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/25/2021 7:38 PM, Leo wrote: >> On 2021 Apr 25, , Dave Smith wrote >> (in article >): >> >>> Kids have it much easier these days. The cars are built so much >>> better >>> and last longer. When I was younger I had to commute about 40 miles >>> each way to work and did a lot of driving around on my own time. >>> I used >>> to fiance them over 3-4 years and by that time they were pretty >>> well >>> worn out and rusted out so it would be time to buy a new one. >> >> Don´t forget bias-plied tires. They didn´t last too long >> either. Retreads >> were big business. Radials were too expensive for commoners. >> Computerized ignition added a hundred thousand miles to vehicle >> life. >> Remember points, plugs and condenser? You had to change them all, >> and often, >> or ignition-timing went to hell and the engine suffered early death. >> >> > > Bought a lot of retreads back in the 60s. Me too. we called them retreads "MayPops" I rode a hell of a long way on $10 tires on a 1959 Ford. Also bought some used tires. Couldn't afford new tires. |
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On Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 6:38:23 PM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
> On 2021 Apr 25, , Dave Smith wrote > (in article >): > > Kids have it much easier these days. The cars are built so much better > > and last longer. When I was younger I had to commute about 40 miles > > each way to work and did a lot of driving around on my own time. I used > > to fiance them over 3-4 years and by that time they were pretty well > > worn out and rusted out so it would be time to buy a new one. > Don´t forget bias-plied tires. They didn´t last too long either.. Retreads > were big business. Radials were too expensive for commoners. > Computerized ignition added a hundred thousand miles to vehicle life. > Remember points, plugs and condenser? You had to change them all, and often, > or ignition-timing went to hell and the engine suffered early death. > And engine oils have improved tremendously. The high end synthetics have very high film strengths, and the anti-wear additives have also been improved. All electrics are still impractical for long distance travel, and there are too few plug-in hybrids, but the engines in hybrids seldom have to run at high RPMs, so they should last a million miles. Barring a collision, the weakest component is the driver's seat. --Bryan |
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On 2021 Apr 25, , Ed Pawlowski wrote
(in article >): > One big difference though, you could actually see the spark plugs to put > a socket on them. Amen. I can´t even find the air cleaner anymore. |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 19:35:14 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote: >On 4/25/2021 4:20 PM, Boron Elgar wrote: >> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 14:22:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: >> >>> On 4/25/2021 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> My late dentist use to have a 2003 Infinity G35 coupe. Hoo boy, what a looker that car is! He told me he was going to give it to his son when he got his driver's licence. That made me sad. Giving a kid that car is just asking for trouble. In fact, that car is too good for any kid. He must have made good on that because I'd see him driving some ratty sedan. That's just depressing! It's probably what killed him. >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FJLlCjBec >>>> >>> >>> Giving a kid a car is foolish no matter what it is. They appreciate >>> having it and will care for it more if they paid for it. >> >> I hope all recipients take this to heart if a fiance buys an >> engagement ring... >> >> >What?! An engagement ring is "a gift given in contemplation of >marriage". In most states, if the marriage doesn't take place it isn't >considered a gift and the ring should be returned. Not so with a parent >gifting their child a car. Especially not if they co-sign a loan for >said car... the parents will be stuck if the child defaults on the loan. > >Jill There are fewer legal constraints on an engagement ring than on a car purchase |
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Dr. Bruce wrote:
> jmcquown wrote: > >> On 4/25/2021 4:20 PM, Boron Elgar wrote: >>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 14:22:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > >> wrote: >>> >>>> On 4/25/2021 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> My late dentist use to have a 2003 Infinity G35 coupe. Hoo boy, >>>>> what a looker that car is! He told me he was going to give it >>>>> to his son when he got his driver's licence. That made me sad. >>>>> Giving a kid that car is just asking for trouble. In fact, that >>>>> car is too good for any kid. He must have made good on that >>>>> because I'd see him driving some ratty sedan. That's just >>>>> depressing! It's probably what killed him. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FJLlCjBec >>>>> >>>> >>>> Giving a kid a car is foolish no matter what it is. They >>>> appreciate having it and will care for it more if they paid for >>>> it. >>> >>> I hope all recipients take this to heart if a fiance buys an >>> engagement ring... >>> >>> >> What?! An engagement ring is "a gift given in contemplation of >> marriage". In most states, if the marriage doesn't take place it >> isn't considered a gift and the ring should be returned. Not so with >> a parent gifting their child a car. Especially not if they co-sign a >> loan for said car... the parents will be stuck if the child defaults >> on the loan. > > The little Americans and their money. Such a source of angst. > The ****ant auztards, no money and no freedoms to speak of. |
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On 4/26/2021 9:08 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 19:35:14 -0400, jmcquown > > wrote: > >> On 4/25/2021 4:20 PM, Boron Elgar wrote: >>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 14:22:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: >>> >>>> On 4/25/2021 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> My late dentist use to have a 2003 Infinity G35 coupe. Hoo boy, what a looker that car is! He told me he was going to give it to his son when he got his driver's licence. That made me sad. Giving a kid that car is just asking for trouble. In fact, that car is too good for any kid. He must have made good on that because I'd see him driving some ratty sedan. That's just depressing! It's probably what killed him. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FJLlCjBec >>>>> >>>> >>>> Giving a kid a car is foolish no matter what it is. They appreciate >>>> having it and will care for it more if they paid for it. >>> >>> I hope all recipients take this to heart if a fiance buys an >>> engagement ring... >>> >>> >> What?! An engagement ring is "a gift given in contemplation of >> marriage". In most states, if the marriage doesn't take place it isn't >> considered a gift and the ring should be returned. Not so with a parent >> gifting their child a car. Especially not if they co-sign a loan for >> said car... the parents will be stuck if the child defaults on the loan. >> >> Jill > > There are fewer legal constraints on an engagement ring than on a car > purchase > Of course there are. But if someone buys a stupidly expensive engagement ring and the couple breaks up, it's not the same as an adult child defaulting on a co-signed car loan. Jill |
New car for young man
On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 21:08:28 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote: >On 4/26/2021 9:08 AM, Boron Elgar wrote: >> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 19:35:14 -0400, jmcquown > >> wrote: >> >>> On 4/25/2021 4:20 PM, Boron Elgar wrote: >>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 14:22:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 4/25/2021 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> My late dentist use to have a 2003 Infinity G35 coupe. Hoo boy, what a looker that car is! He told me he was going to give it to his son when he got his driver's licence. That made me sad. Giving a kid that car is just asking for trouble. In fact, that car is too good for any kid. He must have made good on that because I'd see him driving some ratty sedan. That's just depressing! It's probably what killed him. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FJLlCjBec >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Giving a kid a car is foolish no matter what it is. They appreciate >>>>> having it and will care for it more if they paid for it. >>>> >>>> I hope all recipients take this to heart if a fiance buys an >>>> engagement ring... >>>> >>>> >>> What?! An engagement ring is "a gift given in contemplation of >>> marriage". In most states, if the marriage doesn't take place it isn't >>> considered a gift and the ring should be returned. Not so with a parent >>> gifting their child a car. Especially not if they co-sign a loan for >>> said car... the parents will be stuck if the child defaults on the loan. >>> >>> Jill >> >> There are fewer legal constraints on an engagement ring than on a car >> purchase >> >Of course there are. But if someone buys a stupidly expensive >engagement ring and the couple breaks up, it's not the same as an adult >child defaulting on a co-signed car loan. > >Jill No all engagement rings are paid for solely by one member of the couple. Anecdotal, surely, but among those I know, I can think of half a dozen instances. Times change, but I paid for half of mine way back in 1976. I wasn't too fond of my fiance paying any of it, actually. Other gifts were exchanged between us at times as we were together for a couple of years, but that ring, symbol of what I felt was a shared and equal relationship, was something I wanted to take part in, too. I did not change my last name at the marriage, either. Insofar as a co-signed loan, well, I am not a fan of them at all, but if an adult thinks a child is responsible enough to undertake their part of it to aid in establishing credit, perhaps, but the child then encounters untoward/unforeseen circumstances, perhaps the adult will assist. If there is willful negligence and irresponsibility on the part of the child, then the parent made a bad financial decision. Suck it up. Though it is not invariable or inevitable, stupid children often spring from stupid parents. |
New car for young man
On 2021-04-27 8:45 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 21:08:28 -0400, jmcquown > > No all engagement rings are paid for solely by one member of the > couple. Anecdotal, surely, but among those I know, I can think of half > a dozen instances. Times change, but I paid for half of mine way back > in 1976. I wasn't too fond of my fiance paying any of it, actually. > Other gifts were exchanged between us at times as we were together for > a couple of years, but that ring, symbol of what I felt was a shared > and equal relationship, was something I wanted to take part in, too. I > did not change my last name at the marriage, either. My wife's engagement ring was on the modest side. I was still attending university when we were engaged. We had set the date for about 2 months after my expected graduation. The wedding date remained unchanged but my graduation was postponed for a year because I had been asked to stick around to do an Honours year. My son paid for the engagement ring for his fiancee. She had unknowingly chosen it herself. He had accompanied her to a conference in Columbia and they went out shopping. She saw a ring that she loved. My son is pretty good in Spanish and she doesn't speak a word of it so he pretended to haggle but was actually telling the guy to put it aside and he would be back for it later. He held onto it for a while, wanting to do a proper proposal and getting her father's approval. They were supposed to go to Peru in May 2020 and the plan was to propose at Machu Pichu. That fell through with the pandemic so he proposed to her at home. > > Insofar as a co-signed loan, well, I am not a fan of them at all, but > if an adult thinks a child is responsible enough to undertake their > part of it to aid in establishing credit, perhaps, but the child then > encounters untoward/unforeseen circumstances, perhaps the adult will > assist. If there is willful negligence and irresponsibility on the > part of the child, then the parent made a bad financial decision. Suck > it up. > > Though it is not invariable or inevitable, stupid children often > spring from stupid parents. > I had no problem co-signing for my son. I had loaned him money in the past, not really expecting it to be paid back, but he did. When he got a job near here and needed a car I co-signed and he never missed a payment. |
New car for young man
On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 08:45:12 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote:
> I did not change my last name at the marriage, either. It's just extra useless paperwork. It's extra useless paperwork to change a driver's permit, health card, an extra form to do on both the federal & provincial taxes. Also accounts at your banks, &c. I'm not sure if it makes paperwork easier for your heirs / executors. |
New car for young man
On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 08:45:12 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 21:08:28 -0400, jmcquown > > wrote: > >>On 4/26/2021 9:08 AM, Boron Elgar wrote: >>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 19:35:14 -0400, jmcquown > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 4/25/2021 4:20 PM, Boron Elgar wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 14:22:50 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 4/25/2021 1:20 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My late dentist use to have a 2003 Infinity G35 coupe. Hoo boy, what a looker that car is! He told me he was going to give it to his son when he got his driver's licence. That made me sad. Giving a kid that car is just asking for trouble. In fact, that car is too good for any kid. He must have made good on that because I'd see him driving some ratty sedan. That's just depressing! It's probably what killed him. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FJLlCjBec >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Giving a kid a car is foolish no matter what it is. They appreciate >>>>>> having it and will care for it more if they paid for it. >>>>> >>>>> I hope all recipients take this to heart if a fiance buys an >>>>> engagement ring... >>>>> >>>>> >>>> What?! An engagement ring is "a gift given in contemplation of >>>> marriage". In most states, if the marriage doesn't take place it isn't >>>> considered a gift and the ring should be returned. Not so with a parent >>>> gifting their child a car. Especially not if they co-sign a loan for >>>> said car... the parents will be stuck if the child defaults on the loan. >>>> >>>> Jill >>> >>> There are fewer legal constraints on an engagement ring than on a car >>> purchase >>> >>Of course there are. But if someone buys a stupidly expensive >>engagement ring and the couple breaks up, it's not the same as an adult >>child defaulting on a co-signed car loan. >> >>Jill > > No all engagement rings are paid for solely by one member of the > couple. Anecdotal, surely, but among those I know, I can think of half > a dozen instances. Times change, but I paid for half of mine way back > in 1976. I wasn't too fond of my fiance paying any of it, actually. > Other gifts were exchanged between us at times as we were together for > a couple of years, but that ring, symbol of what I felt was a shared > and equal relationship, was something I wanted to take part in, too. I > did not change my last name at the marriage, either. > As was the custom then, my ex took my name on marriage and, since we were both in the same field, it caused some confusion when she published a paper. At conferences/conventions, there were instances where other delegates took me for the author. |
New car for young man
On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 14:21:58 -0000 (UTC), Mike Duffy
> wrote: >On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 08:45:12 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote: > >> I did not change my last name at the marriage, either. > >It's just extra useless paperwork. > >It's extra useless paperwork to change a driver's permit, health card, an >extra form to do on both the federal & provincial taxes. Also accounts at >your banks, &c. I'm not sure if it makes paperwork easier for your >heirs / executors. The paperwork involved was certainly burdensome and one of two main reasons I did not change my name. The other was that I had an established name/reputation in my career and I saw no reason to change my "branding," as it were. Not changing the name was more rare back then. I did consult a lawyer about it and was advised to change it nowhere or everywhere. My then MIL asked me why I had gotten married if I didn't want to change my name. I found the question rather perplexing on several levels. She did introduce me to rutabagas, though, so I forgave her. I had no problem with a different name until the kids came along. The schools had a real hard time dealing with parents having different last names. I suspect it is less problematic now. I have no idea how they handled instances of divorce and re-marriage with name changes among parents. |
New car for young man
On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 10:42:14 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote:
> I have no idea how they handled instances of divorce > and re-marriage with name changes among parents. Hyphens. It's worse here in Québec where people have hyphenated first names as well to be more unique because the list of name roots are limited to saints or tradition. |
New car for young man
On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 08:41:57 -0600, Graham > wrote:
>On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 08:45:12 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote: > >> I did not change my last name at the marriage, either. >> >As was the custom then, my ex took my name on marriage and, since we were >both in the same field, it caused some confusion when she published a >paper. At conferences/conventions, there were instances where other >delegates took me for the author. That is all its own to unpack. |
New car for young man
On 2021-04-27 10:21 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 08:45:12 -0400, Boron Elgar wrote: > >> I did not change my last name at the marriage, either. > > It's just extra useless paperwork. > > It's extra useless paperwork to change a driver's permit, health card, an > extra form to do on both the federal & provincial taxes. Also accounts at > your banks, &c. I'm not sure if it makes paperwork easier for your > heirs / executors. > In Quebec women maintain their maiden names. It is only in rare cases they are allowed to assume their husband's surname. Curiously, one of those cases was Karla Homolka. |
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