On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 17:44:47 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

> I don't think it will matter in 1000 years as none of us will be here to access
> that data or even care if it's accessible. Who's going to bitch about $53.03
> after that length of time? That would be like bitching about an interior paint
> job a 1000 years later and want it painted another color and your money back.

$53 won't even be enough to buy an iksmod in 1,000 years.

-sw

On 2021-04-10 1:43 p.m., Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 17:44:47 -0700 (PDT),
> wrote:
>
>> I don't think it will matter in 1000 years as none of us will be here to access
>> that data or even care if it's accessible. Who's going to bitch about $53.03
>> after that length of time? That would be like bitching about an interior paint
>> job a 1000 years later and want it painted another color and your money back.
>
> $53 won't even be enough to buy an iksmod in 1,000 years.
>

$53 in 2021 dollars could be more like $5billion 3021 dollars.

On 4/10/2021 1:43 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 17:44:47 -0700 (PDT),
> wrote:
>
>> I don't think it will matter in 1000 years as none of us will be here to access
>> that data or even care if it's accessible. Who's going to bitch about $53.03
>> after that length of time? That would be like bitching about an interior paint
>> job a 1000 years later and want it painted another color and your money back.
>
> $53 won't even be enough to buy an iksmod in 1,000 years.
>
> -sw
>

Here's an interesting story about returning defective products.

Back in 1972, I worked in a furniture store. One of the old salesmen
came in one morning with an old wind-up alarm clock that he had
purchased from Sears 13 years before. It had quit working so he was
going to the nearby Sears store at lunchtime to return it and complain.

We all laughed.

Sure enough though, he came back after lunch with a brand new free
replacement.

On 4/11/2021 3:27 AM, Gary wrote:
> On 4/10/2021 1:43 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 17:44:47 -0700 (PDT),
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think it will matter in 1000 years as none of us will be here to access
>>> that data or even care if it's accessible. Who's going to bitch about $53.03
>>> after that length of time? That would be like bitching about an interior paint
>>> job a 1000 years later and want it painted another color and your money back.
>>
>> $53 won't even be enough to buy an iksmod in 1,000 years.
>>
>> -sw
>>
>
> Here's an interesting story about returning defective products.
>
> Back in 1972, I worked in a furniture store. One of the old salesmen
> came in one morning with an old wind-up alarm clock that he had
> purchased from Sears 13 years before. It had quit working so he was
> going to the nearby Sears store at lunchtime to return it and complain.
>
> We all laughed.
>
> Sure enough though, he came back after lunch with a brand new free
> replacement.
>
>


Must have been Craftsman brand.

In article >, says...
>
> On 4/10/2021 1:43 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 17:44:47 -0700 (PDT),
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I don't think it will matter in 1000 years as none of us will be here to access
> >> that data or even care if it's accessible. Who's going to bitch about $53.03
> >> after that length of time? That would be like bitching about an interior paint
> >> job a 1000 years later and want it painted another color and your money back.
> >
> > $53 won't even be enough to buy an iksmod in 1,000 years.
> >
> > -sw
> >
>
> Here's an interesting story about returning defective products.
>
> Back in 1972, I worked in a furniture store. One of the old salesmen
> came in one morning with an old wind-up alarm clock that he had
> purchased from Sears 13 years before. It had quit working so he was
> going to the nearby Sears store at lunchtime to return it and complain.
>
> We all laughed.
>
> Sure enough though, he came back after lunch with a brand new free
> replacement.

Back in the 1970's John bought a cheap serrated bread knife with a red
plastic handle, which came with a 25 year guarantee. That was why he
chose it. I laughed at the ridiculous guarantee so he secretly kept it.
Men are like that.

Damn thing fell apart when it was only 24 years old, so he sent it
back to the manufacturer. They replaced it.

Janet UK

On 4/11/2021 9:21 AM, Janet wrote:

>>
>> Here's an interesting story about returning defective products.
>>
>> Back in 1972, I worked in a furniture store. One of the old salesmen
>> came in one morning with an old wind-up alarm clock that he had
>> purchased from Sears 13 years before. It had quit working so he was
>> going to the nearby Sears store at lunchtime to return it and complain.
>>
>> We all laughed.
>>
>> Sure enough though, he came back after lunch with a brand new free
>> replacement.
>
> Back in the 1970's John bought a cheap serrated bread knife with a red
> plastic handle, which came with a 25 year guarantee. That was why he
> chose it. I laughed at the ridiculous guarantee so he secretly kept it.
> Men are like that.
>
> Damn thing fell apart when it was only 24 years old, so he sent it
> back to the manufacturer. They replaced it.
>
> Janet UK
>
Back in the 70's I worked for a company with a lifetime guarantee on all
products. We got very few back but the publicity and goodwill was
fantastic. The returns were not from defects but abuse, wear, accidents
and it made loyal customers. They were hobby products so if you made
one customer happy he told all the club members of his good experience.

On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 8:21:00 AM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
>
> Back in the 1970's John bought a cheap serrated bread knife with a red
> plastic handle, which came with a 25 year guarantee. That was why he
> chose it. I laughed at the ridiculous guarantee so he secretly kept it.
> Men are like that.
>
> Damn thing fell apart when it was only 24 years old, so he sent it
> back to the manufacturer. They replaced it.
>
> Janet UK
>
I bought a not cheap hand crank can opener about 10 years ago, it was a
well-known brand that escapes me at the moment. But I really had my
doubts as it had a plastic bushing on the handle. Less than 2 years later
it broke making it completely useless. I had saved the receipt and card
it was attached to and returned it because it had a lifetime guarantee.
They replaced it free of charge but I gave it to my neighbor since I had
already bought a Kitchenaid that did not have that plastic bushing.

On 2021-04-11 6:27 a.m., Gary wrote:
> On 4/10/2021 1:43 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
-sw
>>
>
> Here's an interesting story about returning defective products.
>
> Back in 1972, I worked in a furniture store. One of the old salesmen
> came in one morning with an old wind-up alarm clock that he had
> purchased from Sears 13 years before. It had quit working so he was
> going to the nearby Sears store at lunchtime to return it and complain.
>
> We all laughed.
>
> Sure enough though, he came back after lunch with a brand new free
> replacement.
>
>


I took a broken chair back to Ikea more than 10 years after I bought it.
One of the reasons I bought was that it came with a lifetime guarantee.
I had the receipt, but it was hardly legible. They tried to deny the
return saying that they no longer offer the life time guarantee and said
it was now only 10 years. I didn't care if they no longer offer the life
time guarantee. They did when I bought it. I got my money back.




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On 2021-04-11 8:20 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-04-11 6:27 a.m., Gary wrote:
>> On 4/10/2021 1:43 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> -sw
>>>
>>
>> Here's an interesting story about returning defective products.
>>
>> Back in 1972, I worked in a furniture store. One of the old salesmen
>> came in one morning with an old wind-up alarm clock that he had
>> purchased from Sears 13 years before. It had quit working so he was
>> going to the nearby Sears store at lunchtime to return it and complain.
>>
>> We all laughed.
>>
>> Sure enough though, he came back after lunch with a brand new free
>> replacement.
>>
>>
>
>
> I took a broken chair back to Ikea more than 10 years after I bought it.
> One of the reasons I bought was that it came with a lifetime guarantee.
> I had the receipt, but it was hardly legible. They tried to deny the
> return saying that they no longer offer the life time guarantee and said
> it was now only 10 years. I didn't care if they no longer offer the life
> time guarantee. They did when I bought it.* I got my money back.
>
>
>
>
On another group some years ago, a poster wrote of the trouble he was
having trying to return a product to Home Depot - in spite of the fact
that he couldn't remember from whom he had bought the item.
I got a lot of flack for questioning his morals.

On 4/11/2021 11:44 AM, Graham wrote:
> On another group some years ago, a poster wrote of the trouble he was
> having trying to return a product to Home Depot - in spite of the fact
> that he couldn't remember from whom he had bought the item.
> I got a lot of flack for questioning his morals.
>
Fascinating. No really.

On 2021-04-11 11:44 a.m., Graham wrote:
> On 2021-04-11 8:20 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:

>>
> On another group some years ago, a poster wrote of the trouble he was
> having trying to return a product to Home Depot - in spite of the fact
> that he couldn't remember from whom he had bought the item.
> I got a lot of flack for questioning his morals.



A couple years ago we were in Home Sense and trying to check out but
were held up by a guy trying to return something without a bill. He
looked kind a weird bu also looked like he had money, which we thought
explained the good looking blonde with him. It turned out she was not
with him and was in fact someone my wife used to teach with. After much
bickering with the sales clerk the supervisor showed up and informed the
guy that they do not sell that product and never did.


Best money back I ever got was from Via Rail many years ago. I had
taken the train from Toronto to St.Catharines and the train was full so
a bunch of us had to sit in the baggage car. I wrote a nice letter and
explained how unfair I thought it was for me to pay a full fare and not
even have a seat. I suggested that I should only have to pay for a piece
of freight my size and thought I was entitled to a discount because I
got on and off by myself did not bite anyone and did not pee on the
floor. They sent me a full refund.

On 4/11/2021 11:44 AM, Graham wrote:

>>
>> I took a broken chair back to Ikea more than 10 years after I bought
>> it. One of the reasons I bought was that it came with a lifetime
>> guarantee. I had the receipt, but it was hardly legible. They tried to
>> deny the return saying that they no longer offer the life time
>> guarantee and said it was now only 10 years. I didn't care if they no
>> longer offer the life time guarantee. They did when I bought it.* I
>> got my money back.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> On another group some years ago, a poster wrote of the trouble he was
> having trying to return a product to Home Depot - in spite of the fact
> that he couldn't remember from whom he had bought the item.
> I got a lot of flack for questioning his morals.

Could be he had no morals to question

On 2021-04-11 11:45 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/11/2021 11:44 AM, Graham wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I took a broken chair back to Ikea more than 10 years after I bought
>>> it. One of the reasons I bought was that it came with a lifetime
>>> guarantee. I had the receipt, but it was hardly legible. They tried
>>> to deny the return saying that they no longer offer the life time
>>> guarantee and said it was now only 10 years. I didn't care if they no
>>> longer offer the life time guarantee. They did when I bought it.* I
>>> got my money back.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> On another group some years ago, a poster wrote of the trouble he was
>> having trying to return a product to Home Depot - in spite of the fact
>> that he couldn't remember from whom he had bought the item.
>> I got a lot of flack for questioning his morals.
>
> Could be he had no morals to question

Nor those that disagreed with me!

On 4/11/2021 6:27 AM, Gary wrote:
> On 4/10/2021 1:43 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 17:44:47 -0700 (PDT),
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think it will matter in 1000 years as none of us will be here
>>> to access
>>> that data or even care if it's accessible.* Who's going to bitch
>>> about $53.03
>>> after that length of time?* That would be like bitching about an
>>> interior paint
>>> job a 1000 years later and want it painted another color and your
>>> money back.
>>
>> $53 won't even be enough to buy an iksmod in 1,000 years.
>>
>> -sw
>>
>
> Here's an interesting story about returning defective products.
>
> Back in 1972, I worked in a furniture store. One of the old salesmen
> came in one morning with an old wind-up alarm clock that he had
> purchased from Sears 13 years before. It had quit working so he was
> going to the nearby Sears store at lunchtime to return it and complain.
>
> We all laughed.
>
> Sure enough though, he came back after lunch with a brand new free
> replacement.
>
>
This woman tried to return something from a photo on her phone. Caused
an incident at a Pier One.

You think you've heard them all, but every day someone come up with a
dumber story.
https://tinyurl.com/42rtpz25

"She was screaming at, swearing, insulting, and threatening the staff as
she demanded to return an item she didn't have with her, just a photo of
the item on her phone," Sprague wrote in her Facebook caption about the
confrontation. "The staff were professional and respectful. But they
couldn't return an item she didn't actually have with her."

On 2021-04-11 10:35 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/11/2021 6:27 AM, Gary wrote:

>>
> This woman tried to return something from a photo on her phone.* Caused
> an incident at a Pier One.
>
> You think you've heard them all, but every day someone come up with a
> dumber story.
> https://tinyurl.com/42rtpz25
>
> "She was screaming at, swearing, insulting, and threatening the staff as
> she demanded to return an item she didn't have with her, just a photo of
> the item on her phone," Sprague wrote in her Facebook caption about the
> confrontation. "The staff were professional and respectful. But they
> couldn't return an item she didn't actually have with her."

Wow. What a bitch. Just one question. I have to wonder why they
mention that the women she coughed on was being treated for a brain
tumor. Dare I suggest that if that indicated that she was somehow
weakened and vulnerable, perhaps she should not have started recording
the encounter. That is not unlike starting a fist fight with your arm in
a sling and complaining that it was unfair. She was interferring in the
case of a woman who was obviously imbalanced.

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On 2021 Apr 11, , Ed Pawlowski wrote
(in article >):

> You think you've heard them all, but every day someone come up with a
> dumber story.
> https://tinyurl.com/42rtpz25

A Florida woman. Florida women marry Florida men and have Florida kids who
create national stories when they grow up to become "Florida Man".

On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 7:12:04 PM UTC-4, Leo wrote:
> On 2021 Apr 11, , Ed Pawlowski wrote
> (in article >):
> > You think you've heard them all, but every day someone come up with a
> > dumber story.
> > https://tinyurl.com/42rtpz25
> A Florida woman. Florida women marry Florida men and have Florida kids who
> create national stories when they grow up to become "Florida Man".

On Tue, 18 May 2021 13:22:44 -0700 (PDT), Craig Kurtz
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 7:12:04 PM UTC-4, Leo wrote:
>> On 2021 Apr 11, , Ed Pawlowski wrote
>> (in article >):
>> > You think you've heard them all, but every day someone come up with a
>> > dumber story.
>> > https://tinyurl.com/42rtpz25
>> A Florida woman. Florida women marry Florida men and have Florida kids who
>> create national stories when they grow up to become "Florida Man".

Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."

On Tue, 18 May 2021 13:22:44 -0700 (PDT), Craig Kurtz
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 7:12:04 PM UTC-4, Leo wrote:
>> On 2021 Apr 11, , Ed Pawlowski wrote
>> (in article >):
>> > You think you've heard them all, but every day someone come up with a
>> > dumber story.
>> > https://tinyurl.com/42rtpz25
>> A Florida woman. Florida women marry Florida men and have Florida kids who
>> create national stories when they grow up to become "Florida Man".
Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
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