On 2021-04-08 8:04 p.m., wrote:
> On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
>>
>> CD's don't last forever either. You should copy them and also find
>> another place to store them - like your hard drive or a cloud backup.
>>
>> https://blog.storagecraft.com/data-storage-lifespan/
>>
> The silver CD/DVD's that are rated archival supposedly have a lifespan of
> 200-300 years. Who's hanging around that long to give us a report I haven't
> a clue.
>

Will there still be CD/DVD players to read those discs in a couple
hundred years. My first computer used single sided single denisty 5.25"
floppies. Then there was the 3.5" 1.44 Meg floppies. My new lap top did
not come with a CD or DVD drive and when I bought the desktop I had to
look for one with a the CD/DVD drive.

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On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 4:15:50 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-04-08 8:04 p.m., wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
> >>
> >> CD's don't last forever either. You should copy them and also find
> >> another place to store them - like your hard drive or a cloud backup.
> >>
> >> https://blog.storagecraft.com/data-storage-lifespan/
> >>
> > The silver CD/DVD's that are rated archival supposedly have a lifespan of
> > 200-300 years. Who's hanging around that long to give us a report I haven't
> > a clue.
> >
> Will there still be CD/DVD players to read those discs in a couple
> hundred years. My first computer used single sided single denisty 5.25"
> floppies. Then there was the 3.5" 1.44 Meg floppies. My new lap top did
> not come with a CD or DVD drive and when I bought the desktop I had to
> look for one with a the CD/DVD drive.
>
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There's not much use for optical drives in a world of solid state storage. In a few years there won't be any mechanical drives around. We don't have any in this house. In a world of skinny notebook computers and smart phones, there won't be any ports to plug in a mechanical/optical drive.

On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 1:08:23 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:

> There's not much use for optical drives in a world of solid state storage. In a few years there
> won't be any mechanical drives around. We don't have any in this house. In a world of skinny
> notebook computers and smart phones, there won't be any ports to plug in a
> mechanical/optical drive.

They'll be around, all right. Businesses don't get rid of gear just because
it's gone out of style. For example, in aviation R&D, once you get your
setup certified, it's a long and expensive process to change anything.

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 4:00:09 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 1:08:23 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > There's not much use for optical drives in a world of solid state storage. In a few years there
> > won't be any mechanical drives around. We don't have any in this house. In a world of skinny
> > notebook computers and smart phones, there won't be any ports to plug in a
> > mechanical/optical drive.
> They'll be around, all right. Businesses don't get rid of gear just because
> it's gone out of style. For example, in aviation R&D, once you get your
> setup certified, it's a long and expensive process to change anything.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


Yep! I worked for MDC/Boeing(IBM) so I know!


John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 11:00:09 PM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 1:08:23 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > There's not much use for optical drives in a world of solid state storage. In a few years there
> > won't be any mechanical drives around. We don't have any in this house. In a world of skinny
> > notebook computers and smart phones, there won't be any ports to plug in a
> > mechanical/optical drive.
> They'll be around, all right. Businesses don't get rid of gear just because
> it's gone out of style. For example, in aviation R&D, once you get your
> setup certified, it's a long and expensive process to change anything.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Businesses change over their gear to fit the times. Feel free to cling to your CD burners. I think that's plain silly. Aviation will change to electric driven planes. It doesn't matter if it's going to be a long and expensive process. That's just the way it's going to be. Don't come to me and complain about it.

On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 6:52:16 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
....
> Businesses change over their gear to fit the times. Feel free to cling to your CD burners. I think that's plain silly. Aviation will change to electric driven planes. It doesn't matter if it's going to be a long and expensive process. That's just the way it's going to be. Don't come to me and complain about it.

Not likely about the electric planes! Do your homework!

John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 2:39:54 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 6:52:16 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> ...
> > Businesses change over their gear to fit the times. Feel free to cling to your CD burners. I think that's plain silly. Aviation will change to electric driven planes. It doesn't matter if it's going to be a long and expensive process. That's just the way it's going to be. Don't come to me and complain about it.
> Not likely about the electric planes! Do your homework!
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

I did do my homework. I always do my homework. My guess is that within 20 years all inter-island travel in Hawaii will be on electric powered planes. My guess is that will be true of short haul routes on the mainland. Long-haul routes will probably not be feasible for a while. My guess is that you will live to see the day. On that day, you will say to yourself "I should have done my homework."

dsi1 wrote:

> On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 2:39:54 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> > On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 6:52:16 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > ...
> > > Businesses change over their gear to fit the times. Feel free to
> > > cling to your CD burners. I think that's plain silly. Aviation
> > > will change to electric driven planes. It doesn't matter if it's
> > > going to be a long and expensive process. That's just the way
> > > it's going to be. Don't come to me and complain about it.
> > Not likely about the electric planes! Do your homework!
> >
> > John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>
> I did do my homework. I always do my homework. My guess is that
> within 20 years all inter-island travel in Hawaii will be on electric
> powered planes. My guess is that will be true of short haul routes on
> the mainland. Long-haul routes will probably not be feasible for a
> while. My guess is that you will live to see the day. On that day,
> you will say to yourself "I should have done my homework."

You're right. Within 5 years, Eindhoven Airport (Netherlands) wants to
start flying electronically within the country first. Those are
distances of up to 250 km. And then to destinations abroad.

It's cheaper, requires less maintenance and causes less noise
pollution. The future is non fossil. (Somebody please tell the
Australian government that.)

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On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 7:52:16 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 11:00:09 PM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 1:08:23 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > There's not much use for optical drives in a world of solid state storage. In a few years there
> > > won't be any mechanical drives around. We don't have any in this house. In a world of skinny
> > > notebook computers and smart phones, there won't be any ports to plug in a
> > > mechanical/optical drive.
> > They'll be around, all right. Businesses don't get rid of gear just because
> > it's gone out of style. For example, in aviation R&D, once you get your
> > setup certified, it's a long and expensive process to change anything.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> Businesses change over their gear to fit the times. Feel free to cling to your CD burners. I think that's plain silly. Aviation will change to electric driven planes. It doesn't matter if it's going to be a long and expensive process. That's just the way it's going to be. Don't come to me and complain about it.

You clearly know nothing about FAA requirements.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 22:08:19 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 4:15:50 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-04-08 8:04 p.m., wrote:
>> > On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
>> >>
>> >> CD's don't last forever either. You should copy them and also find
>> >> another place to store them - like your hard drive or a cloud backup.
>> >>
>> >> https://blog.storagecraft.com/data-storage-lifespan/
>> >>
>> > The silver CD/DVD's that are rated archival supposedly have a lifespan of
>> > 200-300 years. Who's hanging around that long to give us a report I haven't
>> > a clue.
>> >
>> Will there still be CD/DVD players to read those discs in a couple
>> hundred years. My first computer used single sided single denisty 5.25"
>> floppies. Then there was the 3.5" 1.44 Meg floppies. My new lap top did
>> not come with a CD or DVD drive and when I bought the desktop I had to
>> look for one with a the CD/DVD drive.
>>
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>There's not much use for optical drives in a world of solid state storage. In a few years there won't be any mechanical drives around. We don't have any in this house. In a world of skinny notebook computers and smart phones, there won't be any ports to plug in a mechanical/optical drive.

I rely on my superior memory for data storage. I simply retrieve the
data by yelling out lots of ones and zeros.

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