John Kuthe wrote:
>
>
>
> I have the ENTIRE Cheep Effects catalog of OUR Muzak, digitized by Bryan, for fear the cassette tapes would go bad, which some did.
>
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

CD's don't last forever either.Â* You should copy them and also find
another place to store them - like your hard drive or a cloud backup.

https://blog.storagecraft.com/data-storage-lifespan/

On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I have the ENTIRE Cheep Effects catalog of OUR Muzak, digitized by Bryan, for fear the cassette tapes would go bad, which some did.
> >
> >
> > John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
> CD's don't last forever either. You should copy them and also find
> another place to store them - like your hard drive or a cloud backup.
>
> https://blog.storagecraft.com/data-storage-lifespan/

The Cloud is NOT SECURE! Nor reliable!

John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

John Kuthe wrote:
> On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have the ENTIRE Cheep Effects catalog of OUR Muzak, digitized by Bryan, for fear the cassette tapes would go bad, which some did.
>>>
>>>
>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>> CD's don't last forever either. You should copy them and also find
>> another place to store them - like your hard drive or a cloud backup.
>>
>> https://blog.storagecraft.com/data-storage-lifespan/
>
> The Cloud is NOT SECURE! Nor reliable!
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>

It's also surveillance capitalists.

On 4/8/2021 7:29 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have the ENTIRE Cheep Effects catalog of OUR Muzak, digitized by Bryan, for fear the cassette tapes would go bad, which some did.
>>>
>>>
>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>> CD's don't last forever either. You should copy them and also find
>> another place to store them - like your hard drive or a cloud backup.
>>
>> https://blog.storagecraft.com/data-storage-lifespan/
>
> The Cloud is NOT SECURE! Nor reliable!
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>

Right, security is a problem. Someone could hack your account, download
the music and publish it under their name. They would be the MTV star
getting the Grammy award and you get zilch.

On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 7:29:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
> > John Kuthe wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have the ENTIRE Cheep Effects catalog of OUR Muzak, digitized by Bryan, for fear the cassette tapes would go bad, which some did.
> > >
> > >
> > > John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
> > CD's don't last forever either. You should copy them and also find
> > another place to store them - like your hard drive or a cloud backup.
> >
> > https://blog.storagecraft.com/data-storage-lifespan/
> The Cloud is NOT SECURE! Nor reliable!

Why should security bother you? It's not as if the files have any value.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 7:29:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
> > > John Kuthe wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have the ENTIRE Cheep Effects catalog of OUR Muzak, digitized
> > > > by Bryan, for fear the cassette tapes would go bad, which some
> > > > did.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
> > > CD's don't last forever either. You should copy them and also
> > > find another place to store them - like your hard drive or a
> > > cloud backup.
> > >
> > > https://blog.storagecraft.com/data-storage-lifespan/
> > The Cloud is NOT SECURE! Nor reliable!
>
> Why should security bother you? It's not as if the files have any
> value.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Thank you for that unexpected insight.

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Dr. Bruce wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 7:29:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>>> On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
>>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the ENTIRE Cheep Effects catalog of OUR Muzak, digitized
>>>>> by Bryan, for fear the cassette tapes would go bad, which some
>>>>> did.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>>>> CD's don't last forever either. You should copy them and also
>>>> find another place to store them - like your hard drive or a
>>>> cloud backup.
>>>>
>>>> https://blog.storagecraft.com/data-storage-lifespan/
>>> The Cloud is NOT SECURE! Nor reliable!
>>
>> Why should security bother you? It's not as if the files have any
>> value.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> Thank you for that unexpected insight.
>

And thank you, master doctor, for the *expected* butt sniff!

John Kuthe wrote:
> On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have the ENTIRE Cheep Effects catalog of OUR Muzak, digitized by Bryan, for fear the cassette tapes would go bad, which some did.
>>>
>>>
>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>> CD's don't last forever either. You should copy them and also find
>> another place to store them - like your hard drive or a cloud backup.
>>
>> https://blog.storagecraft.com/data-storage-lifespan/
> The Cloud is NOT SECURE! Nor reliable!
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

Yet millions of large businesses use the cloud.Â* Welcome to 2021, expert!

Alex wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I have the ENTIRE Cheep Effects catalog of OUR Muzak, digitized
>> by Bryan, for fear the cassette tapes would go bad, which some did.
>>
>>
>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>
> CD's don't last forever either.Â* You should copy them and also
> find another place to store them - like your hard drive or a cloud
> backup.
>
> https://blog.storagecraft.com/data-storage-lifespan/

He could burn them to M disks.

On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 18:44:03 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

>Alex wrote:
>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have the ENTIRE Cheep Effects catalog of OUR Muzak, digitized
>>> by Bryan, for fear the cassette tapes would go bad, which some did.
>>>
>>>
>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>>
>> CD's don't last forever either.Â* You should copy them and also
>> find another place to store them - like your hard drive or a cloud
>> backup.
>>
>> https://blog.storagecraft.com/data-storage-lifespan/
>
>He could burn them to M disks.

I like using zip drives.

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Dr. Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 18:44:03 -0500, Hank Rogers >
> wrote:
>
>> Alex wrote:
>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have the ENTIRE Cheep Effects catalog of OUR Muzak, digitized
>>>> by Bryan, for fear the cassette tapes would go bad, which some did.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>>>
>>> CD's don't last forever either.Â* You should copy them and also
>>> find another place to store them - like your hard drive or a cloud
>>> backup.
>>>
>>> https://blog.storagecraft.com/data-storage-lifespan/
>>
>> He could burn them to M disks.
>
> I like using zip drives.
>

Might work better with win XP.

On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
>
> CD's don't last forever either. You should copy them and also find
> another place to store them - like your hard drive or a cloud backup.
>
> https://blog.storagecraft.com/data-storage-lifespan/
>
The silver CD/DVD's that are rated archival supposedly have a lifespan of
200-300 years. Who's hanging around that long to give us a report I haven't
a clue.

wrote:
> On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
>>
>> CD's don't last forever either. You should copy them and also find
>> another place to store them - like your hard drive or a cloud backup.
>>
>> https://blog.storagecraft.com/data-storage-lifespan/
>>
> The silver CD/DVD's that are rated archival supposedly have a lifespan of
> 200-300 years. Who's hanging around that long to give us a report I haven't
> a clue.
>

M-disc is rated for 1000 years. Available as DVD and blu-ray.
Perfect for precious garage band music.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-DISC

On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 7:56:44 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> wrote:
> >
> > The silver CD/DVD's that are rated archival supposedly have a lifespan of
> > 200-300 years. Who's hanging around that long to give us a report I haven't
> > a clue.
> >
> M-disc is rated for 1000 years. Available as DVD and blu-ray.
> Perfect for precious garage band music.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-DISC
>
That's interesting! I have a spindle of the silver disks and a spindle of 25 of
these M-discs are $53.03 at Amazon.

On 4/8/2021 9:06 PM, wrote:
> On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 7:56:44 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The silver CD/DVD's that are rated archival supposedly have a lifespan of
>>> 200-300 years. Who's hanging around that long to give us a report I haven't
>>> a clue.
>>>
>> M-disc is rated for 1000 years. Available as DVD and blu-ray.
>> Perfect for precious garage band music.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-DISC
>>
> That's interesting! I have a spindle of the silver disks and a spindle of 25 of
> these M-discs are $53.03 at Amazon.
>
Good luck getting your money back when they don't last 1000 years. lol

Gary wrote:
> On 4/8/2021 9:06 PM, wrote:
>> On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 7:56:44 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The silver CD/DVD's that are rated archival supposedly have a
>>>> lifespan of
>>>> 200-300 years. Who's hanging around that long to give us a
>>>> report I haven't
>>>> a clue.
>>>>
>>> M-disc is rated for 1000 years. Available as DVD and blu-ray.
>>> Perfect for precious garage band music.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-DISC
>>>
>> That's interesting!* I have a spindle of the silver disks and a
>> spindle of 25 of
>> *these M-discs are $53.03 at Amazon.
>>
> Good luck getting your money back when they don't last 1000 years. lol
>
>

It's like religion ... yoose have to believe.

Gary wrote:
> On 4/8/2021 9:06 PM, wrote:
>> On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 7:56:44 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The silver CD/DVD's that are rated archival supposedly have a
>>>> lifespan of
>>>> 200-300 years. Who's hanging around that long to give us a report I
>>>> haven't
>>>> a clue.
>>>>
>>> M-disc is rated for 1000 years. Available as DVD and blu-ray.
>>> Perfect for precious garage band music.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-DISC
>>>
>> That's interesting!Â* I have a spindle of the silver disks and a
>> spindle of 25 of
>> Â*these M-discs are $53.03 at Amazon.
>>
> Good luck getting your money back when they don't last 1000 years. lol
>
>

Or your data!

On 4/9/2021 7:28 PM, Alex wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>> On 4/8/2021 9:06 PM, wrote:
>>> On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 7:56:44 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The silver CD/DVD's that are rated archival supposedly have a
>>>>> lifespan of
>>>>> 200-300 years. Who's hanging around that long to give us a report I
>>>>> haven't
>>>>> a clue.
>>>>>
>>>> M-disc is rated for 1000 years. Available as DVD and blu-ray.
>>>> Perfect for precious garage band music.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-DISC
>>>>
>>> That's interesting!Â* I have a spindle of the silver disks and a
>>> spindle of 25 of
>>> Â*these M-discs are $53.03 at Amazon.
>>>
>> Good luck getting your money back when they don't last 1000 years. lol
>>
>>
>
> Or your data!

Just be sure to keep your receipt.

On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 6:28:14 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> >
> > On 4/8/2021 9:06 PM, wrote:
> >
> >> On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 7:56:44 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
> >>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> The silver CD/DVD's that are rated archival supposedly have a
> >>>> lifespan of
> >>>> 200-300 years. Who's hanging around that long to give us a report I
> >>>> haven't
> >>>> a clue.
> >>>>
> >>> M-disc is rated for 1000 years. Available as DVD and blu-ray.
> >>> Perfect for precious garage band music.
> >>>
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-DISC
> >>>
> >> That's interesting! I have a spindle of the silver disks and a
> >> spindle of 25 of
> >> these M-discs are $53.03 at Amazon.
> >>
> > Good luck getting your money back when they don't last 1000 years. lol
> >
> Or your data!
> >
I don't think it will matter in 1000 years as none of us will be here to access
that data or even care if it's accessible. Who's going to bitch about $53.03
after that length of time? That would be like bitching about an interior paint
job a 1000 years later and want it painted another color and your money back.

On 2021-04-08 8:04 p.m., wrote:
> On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
>>
>> CD's don't last forever either. You should copy them and also find
>> another place to store them - like your hard drive or a cloud backup.
>>
>> https://blog.storagecraft.com/data-storage-lifespan/
>>
> The silver CD/DVD's that are rated archival supposedly have a lifespan of
> 200-300 years. Who's hanging around that long to give us a report I haven't
> a clue.
>

Will there still be CD/DVD players to read those discs in a couple
hundred years. My first computer used single sided single denisty 5.25"
floppies. Then there was the 3.5" 1.44 Meg floppies. My new lap top did
not come with a CD or DVD drive and when I bought the desktop I had to
look for one with a the CD/DVD drive.

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On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 4:15:50 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-04-08 8:04 p.m., wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
> >>
> >> CD's don't last forever either. You should copy them and also find
> >> another place to store them - like your hard drive or a cloud backup.
> >>
> >> https://blog.storagecraft.com/data-storage-lifespan/
> >>
> > The silver CD/DVD's that are rated archival supposedly have a lifespan of
> > 200-300 years. Who's hanging around that long to give us a report I haven't
> > a clue.
> >
> Will there still be CD/DVD players to read those discs in a couple
> hundred years. My first computer used single sided single denisty 5.25"
> floppies. Then there was the 3.5" 1.44 Meg floppies. My new lap top did
> not come with a CD or DVD drive and when I bought the desktop I had to
> look for one with a the CD/DVD drive.
>
> --
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There's not much use for optical drives in a world of solid state storage. In a few years there won't be any mechanical drives around. We don't have any in this house. In a world of skinny notebook computers and smart phones, there won't be any ports to plug in a mechanical/optical drive.

On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 1:08:23 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:

> There's not much use for optical drives in a world of solid state storage. In a few years there
> won't be any mechanical drives around. We don't have any in this house. In a world of skinny
> notebook computers and smart phones, there won't be any ports to plug in a
> mechanical/optical drive.

They'll be around, all right. Businesses don't get rid of gear just because
it's gone out of style. For example, in aviation R&D, once you get your
setup certified, it's a long and expensive process to change anything.

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 4:00:09 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 1:08:23 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > There's not much use for optical drives in a world of solid state storage. In a few years there
> > won't be any mechanical drives around. We don't have any in this house. In a world of skinny
> > notebook computers and smart phones, there won't be any ports to plug in a
> > mechanical/optical drive.
> They'll be around, all right. Businesses don't get rid of gear just because
> it's gone out of style. For example, in aviation R&D, once you get your
> setup certified, it's a long and expensive process to change anything.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


Yep! I worked for MDC/Boeing(IBM) so I know!


John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 11:00:09 PM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 1:08:23 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > There's not much use for optical drives in a world of solid state storage. In a few years there
> > won't be any mechanical drives around. We don't have any in this house. In a world of skinny
> > notebook computers and smart phones, there won't be any ports to plug in a
> > mechanical/optical drive.
> They'll be around, all right. Businesses don't get rid of gear just because
> it's gone out of style. For example, in aviation R&D, once you get your
> setup certified, it's a long and expensive process to change anything.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Businesses change over their gear to fit the times. Feel free to cling to your CD burners. I think that's plain silly. Aviation will change to electric driven planes. It doesn't matter if it's going to be a long and expensive process. That's just the way it's going to be. Don't come to me and complain about it.

On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 6:52:16 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
....
> Businesses change over their gear to fit the times. Feel free to cling to your CD burners. I think that's plain silly. Aviation will change to electric driven planes. It doesn't matter if it's going to be a long and expensive process. That's just the way it's going to be. Don't come to me and complain about it.

Not likely about the electric planes! Do your homework!

John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 7:52:16 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 11:00:09 PM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 1:08:23 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > There's not much use for optical drives in a world of solid state storage. In a few years there
> > > won't be any mechanical drives around. We don't have any in this house. In a world of skinny
> > > notebook computers and smart phones, there won't be any ports to plug in a
> > > mechanical/optical drive.
> > They'll be around, all right. Businesses don't get rid of gear just because
> > it's gone out of style. For example, in aviation R&D, once you get your
> > setup certified, it's a long and expensive process to change anything.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> Businesses change over their gear to fit the times. Feel free to cling to your CD burners. I think that's plain silly. Aviation will change to electric driven planes. It doesn't matter if it's going to be a long and expensive process. That's just the way it's going to be. Don't come to me and complain about it.

You clearly know nothing about FAA requirements.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 22:08:19 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 4:15:50 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-04-08 8:04 p.m., wrote:
>> > On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 6:21:31 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
>> >>
>> >> CD's don't last forever either. You should copy them and also find
>> >> another place to store them - like your hard drive or a cloud backup.
>> >>
>> >> https://blog.storagecraft.com/data-storage-lifespan/
>> >>
>> > The silver CD/DVD's that are rated archival supposedly have a lifespan of
>> > 200-300 years. Who's hanging around that long to give us a report I haven't
>> > a clue.
>> >
>> Will there still be CD/DVD players to read those discs in a couple
>> hundred years. My first computer used single sided single denisty 5.25"
>> floppies. Then there was the 3.5" 1.44 Meg floppies. My new lap top did
>> not come with a CD or DVD drive and when I bought the desktop I had to
>> look for one with a the CD/DVD drive.
>>
>> --
>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>
>There's not much use for optical drives in a world of solid state storage. In a few years there won't be any mechanical drives around. We don't have any in this house. In a world of skinny notebook computers and smart phones, there won't be any ports to plug in a mechanical/optical drive.

I rely on my superior memory for data storage. I simply retrieve the
data by yelling out lots of ones and zeros.

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