On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 4:45:45 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 4:59:16 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:42:48 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> >
> > > We installed Dish TV about a month ago, no antenna, no utility pole
> > > wire, dish is only 14" diameter, works great. Last week we installed
> > > Elon Musk's Space Link for internet, absolutely fantastic, speed is
> > > incredible, 160 Mega Bytes per second.
> > Bits, not bytes Speeds are always expressed in terms of bits.
> > There are 8 bits in a byte.
> >
> > 160 Mbit is not all that impressive. We routinely get upward
> > of 400 with a medium-tier cable connection.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> 4 bits of data is called a "nibble." Why are nibbles so important? It's the least number of bits needed to represent the numbers 0 to 9. With 4 bits you have some extra spaces left over so to make efficient use of all the numbers available from 0 to 15, the characters A, B, C, D, E, F, is used in a base 16 number system.

Nobody cares about that anymore. I can't remember the last time I
saw a program that used less than 32 bits for anything. 64 is now
becoming common.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 4:53:05 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 4:45:45 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 4:59:16 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:42:48 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> > >
> > > > We installed Dish TV about a month ago, no antenna, no utility pole
> > > > wire, dish is only 14" diameter, works great. Last week we installed
> > > > Elon Musk's Space Link for internet, absolutely fantastic, speed is
> > > > incredible, 160 Mega Bytes per second.
> > > Bits, not bytes Speeds are always expressed in terms of bits.
> > > There are 8 bits in a byte.
> > >
> > > 160 Mbit is not all that impressive. We routinely get upward
> > > of 400 with a medium-tier cable connection.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> > 4 bits of data is called a "nibble." Why are nibbles so important? It's the least number of bits needed to represent the numbers 0 to 9. With 4 bits you have some extra spaces left over so to make efficient use of all the numbers available from 0 to 15, the characters A, B, C, D, E, F, is used in a base 16 number system.
>
> Nobody cares about that anymore. I can't remember the last time I
> saw a program that used less than 32 bits for anything. 64 is now
> becoming common.

Among the newer generation, 12 GB delivering 110 teraflops is now common.

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 5:49:27 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 4:53:05 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 4:45:45 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 4:59:16 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 9:42:48 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > We installed Dish TV about a month ago, no antenna, no utility pole
> > > > > wire, dish is only 14" diameter, works great. Last week we installed
> > > > > Elon Musk's Space Link for internet, absolutely fantastic, speed is
> > > > > incredible, 160 Mega Bytes per second.
> > > > Bits, not bytes Speeds are always expressed in terms of bits.
> > > > There are 8 bits in a byte.
> > > >
> > > > 160 Mbit is not all that impressive. We routinely get upward
> > > > of 400 with a medium-tier cable connection.
> > > >
> > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > 4 bits of data is called a "nibble." Why are nibbles so important? It's the least number of bits needed to represent the numbers 0 to 9. With 4 bits you have some extra spaces left over so to make efficient use of all the numbers available from 0 to 15, the characters A, B, C, D, E, F, is used in a base 16 number system.
> >
> > Nobody cares about that anymore. I can't remember the last time I
> > saw a program that used less than 32 bits for anything. 64 is now
> > becoming common.
> Among the newer generation, 12 GB delivering 110 teraflops is now common.

We're not even talking about the same thing. dsi1 and I are talking about
variable sizes and the smallest size that can be addressed.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 03:39:56 -0800, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> We're not even talking about the same thing. dsi1 and I are talking
> about variable sizes and the smallest size that can be addressed.

Please don't get me started. Just for fun, I'm working on a DOS boot
diskette that installs Windows 3.11. I had to re-learn the following
memory terms:

DOS, Conventional, High, Low, Upper, 'Page Frame', EMS, UMB, XMS, EMM,
'Protected Mode', 'Real Mode'.

Also the history & legacy of the 'A20 Line handler' hardware bug.

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 7:46:03 AM UTC-5, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 03:39:56 -0800, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > We're not even talking about the same thing. dsi1 and I are talking
> > about variable sizes and the smallest size that can be addressed.
> Please don't get me started. Just for fun, I'm working on a DOS boot
> diskette that installs Windows 3.11. I had to re-learn the following
> memory terms:
>
> DOS, Conventional, High, Low, Upper, 'Page Frame', EMS, UMB, XMS, EMM,
> 'Protected Mode', 'Real Mode'.
>
> Also the history & legacy of the 'A20 Line handler' hardware bug.

Ew. I'm all about 64-bit Linux nowadays.

Cindy Hamilton