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I noticed on my calendar that the spring time change is just next
weekend. Seems a bit earlier this year.

This is good for me as I like to get up at 4 but usually I'm wide awake
at 3 and watch news and stuff. Next Sunday morning, I can get up at 3
but it will be called 4. I won't "lose an hour of sleep."

I think it's all silly. Why not change it once by 1/2 hour then never
change it again? I realize it started as an energy saving feature but
nobody seems to care about saving energy these days.







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On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 8:57:50 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> I noticed on my calendar that the spring time change is just next
> weekend. Seems a bit earlier this year.


It has been the second Sunday in March since 2007.

> This is good for me as I like to get up at 4 but usually I'm wide awake
> at 3 and watch news and stuff. Next Sunday morning, I can get up at 3
> but it will be called 4. I won't "lose an hour of sleep."


I have enough trouble sleeping until 4 am. I don't need any stinking
"spring forward".

> I think it's all silly. Why not change it once by 1/2 hour then never
> change it again? I realize it started as an energy saving feature but
> nobody seems to care about saving energy these days.


It all depends on where you are in your time zone. IIRC you're about halfway
through it, so half an hour seems about right to you. I'm near the western
edge, so I'd prefer standard time all year long.

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On 3/9/2021 8:57 AM, Gary wrote:
> I noticed on my calendar that the spring time change is just next
> weekend. Seems a bit earlier this year.
>
> This is good for me as I like to get up at 4 but usually I'm wide awake
> at 3 and watch news and stuff. Next Sunday morning, I can get up at 3
> but it will be called 4. I won't "lose an hour of sleep."
>
> I think it's all silly. Why not change it once by 1/2 hour then never
> change it again?Â* I realize it started as an energy saving feature but
> nobody seems to care about saving energy these days.
>


Some states approved the one time change to DST but it has to be
approved by Congress and that has not happened.

I prefer the daylight at the end of the day so DST works for me. Here
in FL sunset is an hour later than it was in CT. I like that.
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On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 3:57:50 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> I noticed on my calendar that the spring time change is just next
> weekend. Seems a bit earlier this year.
>
> This is good for me as I like to get up at 4 but usually I'm wide awake
> at 3 and watch news and stuff. Next Sunday morning, I can get up at 3
> but it will be called 4. I won't "lose an hour of sleep."
>
> I think it's all silly. Why not change it once by 1/2 hour then never
> change it again? I realize it started as an energy saving feature but
> nobody seems to care about saving energy these days.

I think you guys should just adjust your time by one minute every day for 60 days. We don't get to mess with our time on this tiny rock in the middle of nowhere but I have lived on the mainland. That one hour time change is kind of a jolt and is disorienting. Such is the lot in life of folks living so far from the equator.
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On 3/9/2021 9:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 8:57:50 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> I noticed on my calendar that the spring time change is just next
>> weekend. Seems a bit earlier this year.

>
> It has been the second Sunday in March since 2007.


Ok (didn't remember the rule). That said, the second Sunday can be as
much as 7 days later or earlier. This year it's on the 14th. Last year
was even earlier, on the 8th.
>
>> This is good for me as I like to get up at 4 but usually I'm wide awake
>> at 3 and watch news and stuff. Next Sunday morning, I can get up at 3
>> but it will be called 4. I won't "lose an hour of sleep."

>
> I have enough trouble sleeping until 4 am. I don't need any stinking
> "spring forward".


Same here, Cindy. I can't sleep to 4 either. Next sunday we can get up
at current 3am but it will be called 4am.

>
>> I think it's all silly. Why not change it once by 1/2 hour then never
>> change it again? I realize it started as an energy saving feature but
>> nobody seems to care about saving energy these days.

>
> It all depends on where you are in your time zone. IIRC you're about halfway
> through it, so half an hour seems about right to you. I'm near the western
> edge, so I'd prefer standard time all year long.


We're on the same track, I think. Just pick a time, any time, and never
change it. The twice a year time changing is silly to me.






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On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 09:50:57 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 3/9/2021 8:57 AM, Gary wrote:
>> I noticed on my calendar that the spring time change is just next
>> weekend. Seems a bit earlier this year.
>>
>> This is good for me as I like to get up at 4 but usually I'm wide awake
>> at 3 and watch news and stuff. Next Sunday morning, I can get up at 3
>> but it will be called 4. I won't "lose an hour of sleep."
>>
>> I think it's all silly. Why not change it once by 1/2 hour then never
>> change it again?* I realize it started as an energy saving feature but
>> nobody seems to care about saving energy these days.
>>

>
>Some states approved the one time change to DST but it has to be
>approved by Congress and that has not happened.
>
>I prefer the daylight at the end of the day so DST works for me. Here
>in FL sunset is an hour later than it was in CT. I like that.


I prefer the changes, here in ADT if we didn't change the mornings in
winter would be ghastly, not daylight until around 9 a.m. - think kids
walking to school in the dark.
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On 2021-03-09 1:19 p.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 09:50:57 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:


>> I prefer the daylight at the end of the day so DST works for me. Here
>> in FL sunset is an hour later than it was in CT. I like that.

>
> I prefer the changes, here in ADT if we didn't change the mornings in
> winter would be ghastly, not daylight until around 9 a.m. - think kids
> walking to school in the dark.
>


That could be remedied shifting school hours an hour, but then it would
be dark when kids were going home from school, and that is down here in
southern Ontario, most of the country is way north of us and in the
winter they could be going to school in the dark and coming home in the
dark.
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On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 11:06:40 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>On 3/9/2021 9:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 8:57:50 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>> I noticed on my calendar that the spring time change is just next
>>> weekend. Seems a bit earlier this year.

>>
>> It has been the second Sunday in March since 2007.

>
>Ok (didn't remember the rule). That said, the second Sunday can be as
>much as 7 days later or earlier. This year it's on the 14th.


So rather than being a bit early, it's as late as it can possibly be.
Duly noted.

>Last year was even earlier, on the 8th.
>>
>>> This is good for me as I like to get up at 4 but usually I'm wide awake
>>> at 3 and watch news and stuff. Next Sunday morning, I can get up at 3
>>> but it will be called 4. I won't "lose an hour of sleep."

>>
>> I have enough trouble sleeping until 4 am. I don't need any stinking
>> "spring forward".

>
>Same here, Cindy. I can't sleep to 4 either. Next sunday we can get up
>at current 3am but it will be called 4am.


You wouldn't have this problem if you didn't go to bed at the same
time as the other 10 year olds

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On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 14:19:54 -0400, Lucretia Borgia
> wrote:

>On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 09:50:57 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>>On 3/9/2021 8:57 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> I noticed on my calendar that the spring time change is just next
>>> weekend. Seems a bit earlier this year.
>>>
>>> This is good for me as I like to get up at 4 but usually I'm wide awake
>>> at 3 and watch news and stuff. Next Sunday morning, I can get up at 3
>>> but it will be called 4. I won't "lose an hour of sleep."
>>>
>>> I think it's all silly. Why not change it once by 1/2 hour then never
>>> change it again?Â* I realize it started as an energy saving feature but
>>> nobody seems to care about saving energy these days.
>>>

>>
>>Some states approved the one time change to DST but it has to be
>>approved by Congress and that has not happened.
>>
>>I prefer the daylight at the end of the day so DST works for me. Here
>>in FL sunset is an hour later than it was in CT. I like that.

>
>I prefer the changes, here in ADT if we didn't change the mornings in
>winter would be ghastly, not daylight until around 9 a.m. - think kids
>walking to school in the dark.


I thought that, in Canada, kids were taken to school in an armoured
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On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 3:16:12 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 11:06:40 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> >On 3/9/2021 9:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 8:57:50 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >>> I noticed on my calendar that the spring time change is just next
> >>> weekend. Seems a bit earlier this year.
> >>
> >> It has been the second Sunday in March since 2007.

> >
> >Ok (didn't remember the rule). That said, the second Sunday can be as
> >much as 7 days later or earlier. This year it's on the 14th.

> So rather than being a bit early, it's as late as it can possibly be.
> Duly noted.
> >Last year was even earlier, on the 8th.
> >>
> >>> This is good for me as I like to get up at 4 but usually I'm wide awake
> >>> at 3 and watch news and stuff. Next Sunday morning, I can get up at 3
> >>> but it will be called 4. I won't "lose an hour of sleep."
> >>
> >> I have enough trouble sleeping until 4 am. I don't need any stinking
> >> "spring forward".

> >
> >Same here, Cindy. I can't sleep to 4 either. Next sunday we can get up
> >at current 3am but it will be called 4am.

> You wouldn't have this problem if you didn't go to bed at the same
> time as the other 10 year olds


I'm pretty sure I stayed up later when I was 10 than I do at 64.

I occasionally contemplate the irony of my childhood bedtime rant:
"When I'm a grownup, I'll stay up as late as I want to."

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Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 11:06:40 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>> On 3/9/2021 9:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 8:57:50 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>>> I noticed on my calendar that the spring time change is just next
>>>> weekend. Seems a bit earlier this year.
>>>
>>> It has been the second Sunday in March since 2007.

>>
>> Ok (didn't remember the rule). That said, the second Sunday can be as
>> much as 7 days later or earlier. This year it's on the 14th.

>
> So rather than being a bit early, it's as late as it can possibly be.
> Duly noted.
>
>> Last year was even earlier, on the 8th.
>>>
>>>> This is good for me as I like to get up at 4 but usually I'm wide awake
>>>> at 3 and watch news and stuff. Next Sunday morning, I can get up at 3
>>>> but it will be called 4. I won't "lose an hour of sleep."
>>>
>>> I have enough trouble sleeping until 4 am. I don't need any stinking
>>> "spring forward".

>>
>> Same here, Cindy. I can't sleep to 4 either. Next sunday we can get up
>> at current 3am but it will be called 4am.

>
> You wouldn't have this problem if you didn't go to bed at the same
> time as the other 10 year olds
>


And you wouldn't have poo on your nose if you stopped the butt
sniffing.


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On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 08:57:42 -0500, Gary wrote:

> I noticed on my calendar that the spring time change is just next
> weekend. Seems a bit earlier this year.
>
> This is good for me as I like to get up at 4 but usually I'm wide awake
> at 3 and watch news and stuff. Next Sunday morning, I can get up at 3
> but it will be called 4. I won't "lose an hour of sleep."
>
> I think it's all silly. Why not change it once by 1/2 hour then never
> change it again? I realize it started as an energy saving feature but
> nobody seems to care about saving energy these days.


It wasn't to save energy. It was so we'd have more time in the
summer to go bug hunting.

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> I thought that, in Canada, kids were taken to school in an armoured
> vehicle, with a bodyguard on either side.


That's just in nothern Canada. Young seal kids are taken to seal
kindergarten that way. Protects them from the Polar Bear gangs.



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Bruce wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>> Same here, Cindy. I can't sleep to 4 either. Next sunday we can get up
>> at current 3am but it will be called 4am.

>
> You wouldn't have this problem if you didn't go to bed at the same
> time as the other 10 year olds


What problem, Bruce?

I've been getting up about an hour before dawn ever since I was 17. It's
not an "old ppl" thing. Even if I stay up late, my body alarm clock
wakes me up early. My favorite time of day starts an hour before the
sky starts getting light.





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On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 09:16:45 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> Bruce wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>> Same here, Cindy. I can't sleep to 4 either. Next sunday we can get up
>>> at current 3am but it will be called 4am.

>>
>> You wouldn't have this problem if you didn't go to bed at the same
>> time as the other 10 year olds

>
>What problem, Bruce?
>
>I've been getting up about an hour before dawn ever since I was 17. It's
>not an "old ppl" thing. Even if I stay up late, my body alarm clock
>wakes me up early.
>
>My favorite time of day starts an hour before the
>sky starts getting light.


Mine too, especially when you know it's going to be a scorcher, but it
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 09:10:12 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> Bruce wrote:
>> I thought that, in Canada, kids were taken to school in an armoured
>> vehicle, with a bodyguard on either side.

>
>That's just in nothern Canada. Young seal kids are taken to seal
>kindergarten that way. Protects them from the Polar Bear gangs.


It's a ruthless country.

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On 3/9/2021 10:06 AM, Gary wrote:
> On 3/9/2021 9:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 8:57:50 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>> I noticed on my calendar that the spring time change is just next
>>> weekend. Seems a bit earlier this year.

>>
>> It has been the second Sunday in March since 2007.

>
> Ok (didn't remember the rule). That said, the second Sunday can be as
> much as 7 days later or earlier.Â* This year it's on the 14th. Last year
> was even earlier, on the 8th.
>>
>>> This is good for me as I like to get up at 4 but usually I'm wide awake
>>> at 3 and watch news and stuff. Next Sunday morning, I can get up at 3
>>> but it will be called 4. I won't "lose an hour of sleep."

>>
>> I have enough trouble sleeping until 4 am.Â* I don't need any stinking
>> "spring forward".

>
> Same here, Cindy. I can't sleep to 4 either. Next sunday we can get up
> at current 3am but it will be called 4am.
>
>>
>>> I think it's all silly. Why not change it once by 1/2 hour then never
>>> change it again? I realize it started as an energy saving feature but
>>> nobody seems to care about saving energy these days.

>>
>> It all depends on where you are in your time zone.Â* IIRC you're about
>> halfway
>> through it, so half an hour seems about right to you.Â* I'm near the
>> western
>> edge, so I'd prefer standard time all year long.

>
> We're on the same track, I think.Â* Just pick a time, any time, and never
> change it. The twice a year time changing is silly to me.
>
>

My alarm is set for 3:30, to be at work (a 3-4 minute drive) by 5:00.
I just found out today that I'm going to be scheduled 40 hours a week
pretty much every week. That's not *at all* what I want, but the new
director wants it that way. The news came after I'd already made the
decision to seriously reduce my alcohol intake permanently, and my son
closes on his house tomorrow. Changes tend to be easier when a bunch
of things change at the same time. With the 40 hours, I'm being given
additional workload, but the good news is that if everything is done
perfectly by some point on Friday, that I can probably cut out early,
the same as it has been.

At least it seems like not too much longer before I can get a Covid
shot, and in the past few months I have rekindled amicable work
relationships with folks who were slow to get on board with strict
Covid hygiene.

This evening I made the gyros with seasoned ground lamb, instead of
marinated, sliced lamb. I used powdered oregano, but the oregano
patch is springing back up. Within a few weeks, it'll be going
crazy, and this year I won't just be taking it to work, but
packaging it up to drop off at the food pantry in a front yard near
our house. The woman who owns the house lost a lot of family
members to Covid, and her response was very prosocial.
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>This evening I made the gyros with seasoned ground lamb, instead of
>marinated, sliced lamb. I used powdered oregano, but the oregano
>patch is springing back up. Within a few weeks, it'll be going
>crazy, and this year I won't just be taking it to work, but
>packaging it up to drop off at the food pantry in a front yard near
>our house. The woman who owns the house lost a lot of family
>members to Covid, and her response was very prosocial.


What's 'prosocial' soy boy lingo for?

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Bruce wrote:
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> > wrote:
>
>> This evening I made the gyros with seasoned ground lamb, instead of
>> marinated, sliced lamb. I used powdered oregano, but the oregano
>> patch is springing back up. Within a few weeks, it'll be going
>> crazy, and this year I won't just be taking it to work, but
>> packaging it up to drop off at the food pantry in a front yard near
>> our house. The woman who owns the house lost a lot of family
>> members to Covid, and her response was very prosocial.

>
> What's 'prosocial' soy boy lingo for?
>


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On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 1:20:04 PM UTC-5, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 09:50:57 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >On 3/9/2021 8:57 AM, Gary wrote:
> >> I noticed on my calendar that the spring time change is just next
> >> weekend. Seems a bit earlier this year.
> >>
> >> This is good for me as I like to get up at 4 but usually I'm wide awake
> >> at 3 and watch news and stuff. Next Sunday morning, I can get up at 3
> >> but it will be called 4. I won't "lose an hour of sleep."
> >>
> >> I think it's all silly. Why not change it once by 1/2 hour then never
> >> change it again? I realize it started as an energy saving feature but
> >> nobody seems to care about saving energy these days.
> >>

> >
> >Some states approved the one time change to DST but it has to be
> >approved by Congress and that has not happened.
> >
> >I prefer the daylight at the end of the day so DST works for me. Here
> >in FL sunset is an hour later than it was in CT. I like that.

>
> I prefer the changes, here in ADT if we didn't change the mornings in
> winter would be ghastly, not daylight until around 9 a.m. - think kids
> walking to school in the dark.


No, the kids would enjoy it ... its the mothers that prefer walking while its still daylight, i'm sure.
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