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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 11:11:22 -0800 (PST), Michelle
> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 9:04:00 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
>> On 2/17/2021 7:53 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> > Sqwertz wrote:
>> >> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
>> >> use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
>> >> and parsley.
>> >>
>> >> -sw
>> >
>> > Limbaugh was busy, dying lol

>> You laugh and joke about someone dying from lung cancer just because he
>> had a different political belief than you? Or maybe also that he became
>> one of the evil RICH with his popular talk show?
>>
>> Shame on you and all the others joking about his death. This shows the
>> liberals for all they are worth.
>>
>> Your celebration and glee means nothing to Rush...he's gone now.
>> At least have some sympathy and respect for his family and friends.
>> If you have nothing good to say, say nothing.
>>
>> What the hell is wrong with you people? >;-[]
>>
>> <SPIT>

>Rush was gleeful over the death of AIDS patients in the 80s and.
>He listed their names and yucked it up on his show. He called Chelsea
>Clinton (a teenager at the time) the White House dog. He said addicts
>deserved prison - until he needed help for his addiction, then he deserved
>treatment.
>In short, he was a bitter, petty man who made the world worse. I see no
>reason to ignore this just because hes dead.


Amen. I'm glad I hardly knew who he was.
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 11:27:52 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 9:11:27 AM UTC-10, Michelle wrote:
>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 9:04:00 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
>> > On 2/17/2021 7:53 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> > > Sqwertz wrote:
>> > >> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
>> > >> use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
>> > >> and parsley.
>> > >>
>> > >> -sw
>> > >
>> > > Limbaugh was busy, dying lol
>> > You laugh and joke about someone dying from lung cancer just because he
>> > had a different political belief than you? Or maybe also that he became
>> > one of the evil RICH with his popular talk show?
>> >
>> > Shame on you and all the others joking about his death. This shows the
>> > liberals for all they are worth.
>> >
>> > Your celebration and glee means nothing to Rush...he's gone now.
>> > At least have some sympathy and respect for his family and friends.
>> > If you have nothing good to say, say nothing.
>> >
>> > What the hell is wrong with you people? >;-[]
>> >
>> > <SPIT>

>> Rush was gleeful over the death of AIDS patients in the 80s and.
>> He listed their names and yucked it up on his show. He called Chelsea
>> Clinton (a teenager at the time) the White House dog. He said addicts
>> deserved prison - until he needed help for his addiction, then he deserved
>> treatment.
>> In short, he was a bitter, petty man who made the world worse. I see no
>> reason to ignore this just because hes dead.

>
>He made a lot of money entertaining people. There's nothing wrong with that. The problem that arose is people took him seriously - those dopes!


Sounds like Trump. He was very entertaining, but then the deplorables
started to take him seriously, with their little brains.
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 14:29:31 -0500, Dave Smith
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>On 2021-02-18 2:11 p.m., Michelle wrote:
>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 9:04:00 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
>>> On 2/17/2021 7:53 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
>>>>> use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
>>>>> and parsley.
>>>>>
>>>>> -sw
>>>>
>>>> Limbaugh was busy, dying lol
>>> You laugh and joke about someone dying from lung cancer just because he
>>> had a different political belief than you? Or maybe also that he became
>>> one of the evil RICH with his popular talk show?
>>>
>>> Shame on you and all the others joking about his death. This shows the
>>> liberals for all they are worth.
>>>
>>> Your celebration and glee means nothing to Rush...he's gone now.
>>> At least have some sympathy and respect for his family and friends.
>>> If you have nothing good to say, say nothing.
>>>
>>> What the hell is wrong with you people? >;-[]
>>>
>>> <SPIT>

>> Rush was gleeful over the death of AIDS patients in the 80s and.
>> He listed their names and yucked it up on his show. He called Chelsea
>> Clinton (a teenager at the time) the White House dog. He said addicts
>> deserved prison - until he needed help for his addiction, then he deserved
>> treatment.
>> In short, he was a bitter, petty man who made the world worse. I see no
>> reason to ignore this just because hes dead.
>>

>
>He was one of the many to made money by spewing ridiculous BS to the
>masses who loved his message. The more bizarre they are they excite
>their fans and the more they outrage others. That sort of controversy
>fuels complaints, and complaints are often seen as a measure of audience
>size.
>
>I believe in free speech and freedom of the press, but knowlingly
>spreading lies to incite hatred should not fall under the auspices of
>freedom of speech.


The problem is: who gets to decide what's a truth and what's a lie?
Not Dave Smith, I hope.
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On 2/18/2021 2:28 PM, Graham wrote:
> On 2021-02-18 11:00 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 2/18/2021 11:26 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 06:52:48 -0800 (PST), GM
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:42:01 -0600, Sqwertz >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:40:52 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had this yesterday. I don't know how my friend made the creamed
>>>>>>> spinach, but it had a fair amount of garlic in there. The steak
>>>>>>> was done in a frying pan using butter. When the steaks were
>>>>>>> taken out of the pan, she put cooked home made noodles in the pan
>>>>>>> which had a nice amount of butter still, and tossed them. The
>>>>>>> noodles were wide. Excellent stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yabbut, was Rush Limbaugh or Trump there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
>>>>>> use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
>>>>>> and parsley.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -sw
>>>>> Limbaugh was busy, dying lol
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not a very Christian thing to say, Lucrezia...!!!
>>>
>>> I'm an atheist and feel entitled to say that about such a great
>>> Christian!
>>>

>> Please don't let GM push your buttons.* He's an admitted
>> nymshifter/forger of posts.* In short, a troll with an agenda.* I
>> haven't forgotten GM thought the Nazi's were nice people, too.
>>
>> Jill

> And that Trump was a great President, if not one of the greater.


I am really getting tired of the Big Giant Talking Head. The former
President who lost the election and then had a hissy fit and incited
insurrection.

Sane people need to keep an eye on him because he has the ability to
maintain that stupid white supremacist mob mentality GM seems to think
is "Christian" behaviour.

Jill
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 11:20:06 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 2:14:11 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 13:46:47 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On 2021-02-18 12:52 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> >> On 2/18/2021 11:09 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 10:46:45 AM UTC-5, GM wrote:
>> >>>> Gary wrote:
>> >
>> >>>> One day they will find themselves "on the short end of the stick",
>> >>>> shall we say - and it *won't* be very "pretty" for them...
>> >>>
>> >>> Do you think I care what people will say about me after I'm dead? I
>> >>> barely
>> >>> care what they say about me now.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cindy Hamilton
>> >>>
>> >> Hear hear!
>> >>
>> >
>> >Bear in mind that social media has helped to foster the age of shaming.
>> >Successful people who have done great things are now being vilified for
>> >things that they have said, or were claimed to have said years ago.

>> It's a bit hard to admire a historical figure who was, from our modern
>> perspective, a racist. Just an example.

>
>You can admire the good things they did. It'd be nearly impossible to find
>anybody in history who wasn't a racist by today's standards. (It's difficult
>enough to find such a person today.)


Common sense is all but dead now. People's minds are now shaped by
algorithms. The rise of the use of algorithms coincided with people
becoming intolerant, violent, uncompromising and hateful of others.

Assclowns like Bruce don't accept that in the REAL WORLD there is
nuance to everything. Many famous figures did great things for their
nations but they are human and also lived in another time with
different morals. Now along comes Bruce to proclaim their guilt and
what their crimes were. He's a ****ing idiot.

John Kuthe, Soothsayer...


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Gary wrote:
> On 2/17/2021 7:53 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
> >> use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
> >> and parsley.
> >>
> >> -sw

> >
> > Limbaugh was busy, dying lol

> You laugh and joke about someone dying from lung cancer just because he
> had a different political belief than you? Or maybe also that he became
> one of the evil RICH with his popular talk show?
>
> Shame on you and all the others joking about his death. This shows the
> liberals for all they are worth.
>
> Your celebration and glee means nothing to Rush...he's gone now.
> At least have some sympathy and respect for his family and friends.
> If you have nothing good to say, say nothing.
>
> What the hell is wrong with you people? >;-[]
>
> <SPIT>



How Rush Limbaugh Helped Me Rethink Being a Leftist, by Tammy Bruce, on Twitter
Tammy Bruce @HeyTammyBruce

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...273347586.html

"In the 90s I was a host on a talk radio station in LA, the same that aired Rush. I was president of LA NOW, & the liberal weekend host when he visited the station. He was so vilified by my then-crowd, I expected a monster. Instead, I met a remarkable, kind and encouraging man...

He was gregarious & generous when we met. He shook my hand & I was shocked that he was nice & genuinely curious about my radio work and activism. I realized I was going to have a fascinating conversation...

There were many events during this time as a radio talk show host that changed me. It was my first job in the medium starting in 1993. My meeting Rush & our conversations made me realize the left had been lying to me about many things...

Rush was not a monster, he wasnt evil, he did not mean people harm, he wasnt a bigot, or any of the other smears lobbed against him by my leftist associates. I liked him very much, and while we disagreed on many things (then) he was nothing has he had been painted...

In my conversations with him, we talked about the issues and despite the disagreements, he also took time to give me advice about hosting, style, connecting w the audience, etc. He encouraged me and gave me advice that made a huge difference in my career

He approached me and everyone else as separate individual worthy of respect and with a desire to help and inspire. Regardless of the fact that I stood for everything he stood against. It was a generosity of spirit you would never see on the left...

The impact of realizing that Id been lied to about Rush was significant, but that as a conservative he represented more of what I felt was valuable & important was a revelation. He made it possible to even consider that which is what made him so dangerous to the left...

During this time as an activist leftist, it was talk radio, the audience, & meeting Rush Limbaugh that was the undeniable trigger making it possible for me to rethink my alliances & eventually leave the leftist establishment....

It wasnt just Rush, but Id also been lied to about conservatives in general, realizing that by speaking with callers every day who were conservative & responding fairly & w curiosity to my arguments on the air. Rush made that medium, & experience, possible...

My leftist associates begged me not to go into talk radio. I eventually realized they were so opposed because of what I would learn. That leftist effort to deny access to ideas & info continues w even more vitriol & punishment for those who dare to challenge leftist lies...

Rush created the potential of the medium, and set the tone for entertainment, analysis & education. Honest conversations open to everyone is anathema to the left which is why theyre obsessed w creating fear & the cancel culture...

The ugliness of the left will be seen throughout today & the days to come in response to the death of Rush, an American titan & defender of conservative values. The left is ugly & horrible but it is exactly their nature & should serve to remind you the importance of our fight...

The good news is, Rush not only changed our lives by helping us understand the imperative of freedom & generosity, but he now serves as an even more essential example for all of us...

Rush may be gone, but now its up to all of us to continue his commitment to our great nation. Thank you sir, for the time you took with a arrogant & smug LA leftist feminist, one of the millions of lives you changed for the better..."

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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 12:34:25 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On 2021-02-18 9:09 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 10:46:45 AM UTC-5, GM wrote:
>>> Gary wrote:
>>>> On 2/17/2021 7:53 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
>>>>>> use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
>>>>>> and parsley.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>
>>>>> Limbaugh was busy, dying lol
>>>> You laugh and joke about someone dying from lung cancer just because he
>>>> had a different political belief than you? Or maybe also that he became
>>>> one of the evil RICH with his popular talk show?
>>>>
>>>> Shame on you and all the others joking about his death. This shows the
>>>> liberals for all they are worth.
>>>>
>>>> Your celebration and glee means nothing to Rush...he's gone now.
>>>> At least have some sympathy and respect for his family and friends.
>>>> If you have nothing good to say, say nothing.
>>>>
>>>> What the hell is wrong with you people? >;-[]
>>>>
>>>> <SPIT>
>>> This is the new liberal democratic "progressive" MO, Gary...
>>>
>>> One day they will find themselves "on the short end of the stick", shall we say - and it *won't* be very "pretty" for them...

>>
>> Do you think I care what people will say about me after I'm dead? I barely
>> care what they say about me now.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>

>Furthermore, if one couldn't say anything positive about him while he
>was alive, why change now? "One should not speak ill of the dead" is an
>old superstition!


Agree. **** Martin Luther King and his ilk!
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 08:54:32 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 6:26:36 AM UTC-10, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 06:52:48 -0800 (PST), GM
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:42:01 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:40:52 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I had this yesterday. I don't know how my friend made the creamed
>> >> >> spinach, but it had a fair amount of garlic in there. The steak
>> >> >> was done in a frying pan using butter. When the steaks were
>> >> >> taken out of the pan, she put cooked home made noodles in the pan
>> >> >> which had a nice amount of butter still, and tossed them. The
>> >> >> noodles were wide. Excellent stuff.
>> >> >
>> >> >Yabbut, was Rush Limbaugh or Trump there?
>> >> >
>> >> >I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
>> >> >use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
>> >> >and parsley.
>> >> >
>> >> >-sw
>> >> Limbaugh was busy, dying lol
>> >
>> >
>> >Not a very Christian thing to say, Lucrezia...!!!

>> I'm an atheist and feel entitled to say that about such a great
>> Christian!

>
>Christianity gives one a great set of rules for living. The main trouble is that it's also used as a tool for manipulating and scamming some poor, dumb, schmucks.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERUngQUCsyE


There is the Parable of the Pharisee and the Publican. Basically the
Pharisee thinks himself so righteous and brags about it but in truth
he has no righteousness at all. On the other hand there are people
who do not brag that are far more righteous.
My interpretation is that the people who currently name themselves
Christians are Christians in name only . They are mean and
destructive without a care for others and the planet. As you say,
they use it as a tool against others.
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> On 2/18/2021 2:28 PM, Graham wrote:
> > On 2021-02-18 11:00 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> >> On 2/18/2021 11:26 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 06:52:48 -0800 (PST), GM
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:42:01 -0600, Sqwertz >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:40:52 -0800 (PST), wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I had this yesterday. I don't know how my friend made the creamed
> >>>>>>> spinach, but it had a fair amount of garlic in there. The steak
> >>>>>>> was done in a frying pan using butter. When the steaks were
> >>>>>>> taken out of the pan, she put cooked home made noodles in the pan
> >>>>>>> which had a nice amount of butter still, and tossed them. The
> >>>>>>> noodles were wide. Excellent stuff.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yabbut, was Rush Limbaugh or Trump there?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
> >>>>>> use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
> >>>>>> and parsley.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -sw
> >>>>> Limbaugh was busy, dying lol
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Not a very Christian thing to say, Lucrezia...!!!
> >>>
> >>> I'm an atheist and feel entitled to say that about such a great
> >>> Christian!
> >>>
> >> Please don't let GM push your buttons. He's an admitted
> >> nymshifter/forger of posts. In short, a troll with an agenda. I
> >> haven't forgotten GM thought the Nazi's were nice people, too.
> >>
> >> Jill

> > And that Trump was a great President, if not one of the greater.

> I am really getting tired of the Big Giant Talking Head. The former
> President who lost the election and then had a hissy fit and incited
> insurrection.
>
> Sane people need to keep an eye on him because he has the ability to
> maintain that stupid white supremacist mob mentality GM seems to think
> is "Christian" behaviour.



Jill, as you once chided Gary, "Stop using my name in your replies"...

<chuckle>

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Graham wrote:
> On 2021-02-18 11:00 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > On 2/18/2021 11:26 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 06:52:48 -0800 (PST), GM
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:42:01 -0600, Sqwertz >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:40:52 -0800 (PST), wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I had this yesterday. I don't know how my friend made the creamed
> >>>>>> spinach, but it had a fair amount of garlic in there. The steak
> >>>>>> was done in a frying pan using butter. When the steaks were
> >>>>>> taken out of the pan, she put cooked home made noodles in the pan
> >>>>>> which had a nice amount of butter still, and tossed them. The
> >>>>>> noodles were wide. Excellent stuff.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yabbut, was Rush Limbaugh or Trump there?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
> >>>>> use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
> >>>>> and parsley.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -sw
> >>>> Limbaugh was busy, dying lol
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Not a very Christian thing to say, Lucrezia...!!!
> >>
> >> I'm an atheist and feel entitled to say that about such a great
> >> Christian!
> >>

> > Please don't let GM push your buttons. He's an admitted
> > nymshifter/forger of posts. In short, a troll with an agenda. I
> > haven't forgotten GM thought the Nazi's were nice people, too.
> >
> > Jill

> And that Trump was a great President, if not one of the greater.



Correct, Graham -- if not the best POTUS since President Reagan, then the best of my lifetime (I go back to Ike)...!!!

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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 15:28:46 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 2/18/2021 2:28 PM, Graham wrote:
>> On 2021-02-18 11:00 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 2/18/2021 11:26 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 06:52:48 -0800 (PST), GM
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:42:01 -0600, Sqwertz >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:40:52 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I had this yesterday. I don't know how my friend made the creamed
>>>>>>>> spinach, but it had a fair amount of garlic in there. The steak
>>>>>>>> was done in a frying pan using butter. When the steaks were
>>>>>>>> taken out of the pan, she put cooked home made noodles in the pan
>>>>>>>> which had a nice amount of butter still, and tossed them. The
>>>>>>>> noodles were wide. Excellent stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yabbut, was Rush Limbaugh or Trump there?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
>>>>>>> use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
>>>>>>> and parsley.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>> Limbaugh was busy, dying lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not a very Christian thing to say, Lucrezia...!!!
>>>>
>>>> I'm an atheist and feel entitled to say that about such a great
>>>> Christian!
>>>>
>>> Please don't let GM push your buttons.* He's an admitted
>>> nymshifter/forger of posts.* In short, a troll with an agenda.* I
>>> haven't forgotten GM thought the Nazi's were nice people, too.
>>>
>>> Jill

>> And that Trump was a great President, if not one of the greater.

>
>I am really getting tired of the Big Giant Talking Head. The former
>President who lost the election and then had a hissy fit and incited
>insurrection.
>
>Sane people need to keep an eye on him because he has the ability to
>maintain that stupid white supremacist mob mentality GM seems to think
>is "Christian" behaviour.


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> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 11:20:06 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 2:14:11 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 13:46:47 -0500, Dave Smith
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 2021-02-18 12:52 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> >> >> On 2/18/2021 11:09 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> >>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 10:46:45 AM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> >> >>>> Gary wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>>> One day they will find themselves "on the short end of the stick",
> >> >>>> shall we say - and it *won't* be very "pretty" for them...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Do you think I care what people will say about me after I'm dead? I
> >> >>> barely
> >> >>> care what they say about me now.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Cindy Hamilton
> >> >>>
> >> >> Hear hear!
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Bear in mind that social media has helped to foster the age of shaming.
> >> >Successful people who have done great things are now being vilified for
> >> >things that they have said, or were claimed to have said years ago.
> >> It's a bit hard to admire a historical figure who was, from our modern
> >> perspective, a racist. Just an example.

> >
> >You can admire the good things they did. It'd be nearly impossible to find
> >anybody in history who wasn't a racist by today's standards. (It's difficult
> >enough to find such a person today.)

> Common sense is all but dead now. People's minds are now shaped by
> algorithms. The rise of the use of algorithms coincided with people
> becoming intolerant, violent, uncompromising and hateful of others.
>
> Assclowns like Bruce don't accept that in the REAL WORLD there is
> nuance to everything. Many famous figures did great things for their
> nations but they are human and also lived in another time with
> different morals. Now along comes Bruce to proclaim their guilt and
> what their crimes were. He's a ****ing idiot.



It's *not* like this is anything *new*, John...LOL...!!!

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On 2/18/2021 2:14 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 13:46:47 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2021-02-18 12:52 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 2/18/2021 11:09 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 10:46:45 AM UTC-5, GM wrote:
>>>>> Gary wrote:

>>
>>>>> One day they will find themselves "on the short end of the stick",
>>>>> shall we say - and it *won't* be very "pretty" for them...
>>>>
>>>> Do you think I care what people will say about me after I'm dead?* I
>>>> barely
>>>> care what they say about me now.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>> Hear hear!
>>>

>>
>> Bear in mind that social media has helped to foster the age of shaming.
>> Successful people who have done great things are now being vilified for
>> things that they have said, or were claimed to have said years ago.

>
> It's a bit hard to admire a historical figure who was, from our modern
> perspective, a racist. Just an example.
>


You can admire what that person achieved, the good works he did. They
did the same as their peers and it was acceptable and common practice.

Our parents probably did things we'd not accept today but they are still
your parents. Should their photos be trashed along side the statue of
George Washington?
There are things we do every day that may not be considered acceptable
200 years from now. Life evolves. Those now villains of the past
helped us become what we are today.
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On 2/18/2021 2:33 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 11:20:06 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 2:14:11 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 13:46:47 -0500, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2021-02-18 12:52 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 2/18/2021 11:09 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 10:46:45 AM UTC-5, GM wrote:
>>>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> One day they will find themselves "on the short end of the stick",
>>>>>>> shall we say - and it *won't* be very "pretty" for them...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you think I care what people will say about me after I'm dead? I
>>>>>> barely
>>>>>> care what they say about me now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hear hear!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bear in mind that social media has helped to foster the age of shaming.
>>>> Successful people who have done great things are now being vilified for
>>>> things that they have said, or were claimed to have said years ago.
>>> It's a bit hard to admire a historical figure who was, from our modern
>>> perspective, a racist. Just an example.

>>
>> You can admire the good things they did. It'd be nearly impossible to find
>> anybody in history who wasn't a racist by today's standards. (It's difficult
>> enough to find such a person today.)

>
> True. But I can imagine that people of colour (is that the allowed
> term at the moment?) would be offended by a statue of a historical
> figure who was, among other things, a slave trader.
>


They are not glorified for being a slave trader. Sorry, cannot erase
history.
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:20:33 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 2/18/2021 2:14 PM, Bruce wrote:


>> It's a bit hard to admire a historical figure who was, from our modern
>> perspective, a racist. Just an example.
>>

>
>You can admire what that person achieved, the good works he did. They
>did the same as their peers and it was acceptable and common practice.
>
>Our parents probably did things we'd not accept today but they are still
>your parents. Should their photos be trashed along side the statue of
>George Washington?
>There are things we do every day that may not be considered acceptable
>200 years from now. Life evolves. Those now villains of the past
>helped us become what we are today.


You talk from a very white perspective. I can imagine that a person of
colour frowns upon a statue of a former slave trader, even if they
also did good things.


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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:22:29 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 2/18/2021 2:33 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 11:20:06 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 2:14:11 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:


>>>> It's a bit hard to admire a historical figure who was, from our modern
>>>> perspective, a racist. Just an example.
>>>
>>> You can admire the good things they did. It'd be nearly impossible to find
>>> anybody in history who wasn't a racist by today's standards. (It's difficult
>>> enough to find such a person today.)

>>
>> True. But I can imagine that people of colour (is that the allowed
>> term at the moment?) would be offended by a statue of a historical
>> figure who was, among other things, a slave trader.
>>

>
>They are not glorified for being a slave trader. Sorry, cannot erase
>history.


But you can change who you revere today.

In my home town, streets are or were named after men who committed
violent crimes in Indonesia to force the population into submission to
the Dutch colonial power. These street names are being changed one by
one. I think that's just and unavoidable.
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 10:18:20 -0800 (PST), GM wrote:

> wrote:
>> On 2/18/2021 11:26 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 06:52:48 -0800 (PST), GM
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:42:01 -0600, Sqwertz >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:40:52 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had this yesterday. I don't know how my friend made the creamed
>>>>>>> spinach, but it had a fair amount of garlic in there. The steak
>>>>>>> was done in a frying pan using butter. When the steaks were
>>>>>>> taken out of the pan, she put cooked home made noodles in the pan
>>>>>>> which had a nice amount of butter still, and tossed them. The
>>>>>>> noodles were wide. Excellent stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yabbut, was Rush Limbaugh or Trump there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
>>>>>> use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
>>>>>> and parsley.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -sw
>>>>> Limbaugh was busy, dying lol
>>>>
>>>> Not a very Christian thing to say, Lucrezia...!!!
>>>
>>> I'm an atheist and feel entitled to say that about such a great
>>> Christian!
>>>

>> Please don't let GM push your buttons. He's an admitted
>> nymshifter/forger of posts. In short, a troll with an agenda. I
>> haven't forgotten GM thought the Nazi's were nice people, too.

>
> Lucrezia is an intelligent adult and long - time poster here, you are in no place to "monitor" who she or someone else interacts with, Jill...
>
> You come off as a crazed old white chick, e.g. a "Karen"...but do carry on, you provide us with some cheap amusement :-)


Replying to the same post twice within 10 minutes: FAILURE!
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 10:03:51 -0500, Gary wrote:

> On 2/17/2021 7:53 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
>>> use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
>>> and parsley.
>>>
>>> -sw

>>
>> Limbaugh was busy, dying lol

>
> You laugh and joke about someone dying from lung cancer just because he
> had a different political belief than you? Or maybe also that he became
> one of the evil RICH with his popular talk show?
>
> Shame on you and all the others joking about his death. This shows the
> liberals for all they are worth.
>
> Your celebration and glee means nothing to Rush...he's gone now.
> At least have some sympathy and respect for his family and friends.
> If you have nothing good to say, say nothing.
>
> What the hell is wrong with you people? >;-[]
>
> <SPIT>


I'm glad he's dead, too <spit>. It means less bullshit cross-posting
in this and other groups.

-sw
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On 2021-02-18 4:39 p.m., Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 10:03:51 -0500, Gary wrote:


>> What the hell is wrong with you people? >;-[]
>>
>> <SPIT>

>
> I'm glad he's dead, too <spit>. It means less bullshit cross-posting
> in this and other groups.
>


So true. I got a new laptop in December and a new desktop last month.
Once I got my mail reader installed in each of them and started download
posts I had to set up filters. The top priority was to get rid of the
topics that were being cross posted and those who were posting their
crap to multiple groups. Every once in a while I come across a single
post that is so idiotic that I am surprised that it is not cross posted.

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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 13:46:47 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-02-18 12:52 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 2/18/2021 11:09 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 10:46:45 AM UTC-5, GM wrote:
>>>> Gary wrote:

>
>>>> One day they will find themselves "on the short end of the stick",
>>>> shall we say - and it *won't* be very "pretty" for them...
>>>
>>> Do you think I care what people will say about me after I'm dead?* I
>>> barely
>>> care what they say about me now.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>

>> Hear hear!
>>

>
>Bear in mind that social media has helped to foster the age of shaming.
>Successful people who have done great things are now being vilified for
>things that they have said, or were claimed to have said years ago.


Well if you admired him, sobeit, I think he was a nasty piece of work.


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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 12:34:25 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On 2021-02-18 9:09 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 10:46:45 AM UTC-5, GM wrote:
>>> Gary wrote:
>>>> On 2/17/2021 7:53 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
>>>>>> use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
>>>>>> and parsley.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>
>>>>> Limbaugh was busy, dying lol
>>>> You laugh and joke about someone dying from lung cancer just because he
>>>> had a different political belief than you? Or maybe also that he became
>>>> one of the evil RICH with his popular talk show?
>>>>
>>>> Shame on you and all the others joking about his death. This shows the
>>>> liberals for all they are worth.
>>>>
>>>> Your celebration and glee means nothing to Rush...he's gone now.
>>>> At least have some sympathy and respect for his family and friends.
>>>> If you have nothing good to say, say nothing.
>>>>
>>>> What the hell is wrong with you people? >;-[]
>>>>
>>>> <SPIT>
>>> This is the new liberal democratic "progressive" MO, Gary...
>>>
>>> One day they will find themselves "on the short end of the stick", shall we say - and it *won't* be very "pretty" for them...

>>
>> Do you think I care what people will say about me after I'm dead? I barely
>> care what they say about me now.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>

>Furthermore, if one couldn't say anything positive about him while he
>was alive, why change now? "One should not speak ill of the dead" is an
>old superstition!


Correct, there is nothing good to be said about him, alive or dead. I
recall when he first came over the horizon, some radio station here
carried his broadcasts, thankfully they didn't last long. There was
another one (whose name I can't remember) a woman who was just as bad
as him.
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On 2021-02-18 4:50 p.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 13:46:47 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2021-02-18 12:52 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 2/18/2021 11:09 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

all we say - and it *won't* be very "pretty" for them...
>>>>
>>>> Do you think I care what people will say about me after I'm dead?* I
>>>> barely
>>>> care what they say about me now.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>> Hear hear!
>>>

>>
>> Bear in mind that social media has helped to foster the age of shaming.
>> Successful people who have done great things are now being vilified for
>> things that they have said, or were claimed to have said years ago.

>
> Well if you admired him, sobeit, I think he was a nasty piece of work.
>


WTF are you talking about? I was thinking about some of the political
leaders who acted in the moral standards of their time and have fallen
from grace. For instance, John A MacDonald has been vilified for his
alleged treatment of indigenous people because he supported the idea of
residential schools. One of our senators is facing a lot of scorn
because she suggested that those schools were set up with good intentions,
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 12:36:56 -0800 (PST), GM
> wrote:

>Graham wrote:
>> On 2021-02-18 11:00 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> > On 2/18/2021 11:26 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 06:52:48 -0800 (PST), GM
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> >>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:42:01 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:40:52 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> I had this yesterday. I don't know how my friend made the creamed
>> >>>>>> spinach, but it had a fair amount of garlic in there. The steak
>> >>>>>> was done in a frying pan using butter. When the steaks were
>> >>>>>> taken out of the pan, she put cooked home made noodles in the pan
>> >>>>>> which had a nice amount of butter still, and tossed them. The
>> >>>>>> noodles were wide. Excellent stuff.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Yabbut, was Rush Limbaugh or Trump there?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
>> >>>>> use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
>> >>>>> and parsley.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -sw
>> >>>> Limbaugh was busy, dying lol
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Not a very Christian thing to say, Lucrezia...!!!
>> >>
>> >> I'm an atheist and feel entitled to say that about such a great
>> >> Christian!
>> >>
>> > Please don't let GM push your buttons. He's an admitted
>> > nymshifter/forger of posts. In short, a troll with an agenda. I
>> > haven't forgotten GM thought the Nazi's were nice people, too.
>> >
>> > Jill

>> And that Trump was a great President, if not one of the greater.

>
>
>Correct, Graham -- if not the best POTUS since President Reagan, then the best of my lifetime (I go back to Ike)...!!!


I can tell you for sure that Ike would hate it to know you equate him
with Trump!
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Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 12:36:56 -0800 (PST), GM
> > wrote:
>
> >Graham wrote:
> >> On 2021-02-18 11:00 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> >> > On 2/18/2021 11:26 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 06:52:48 -0800 (PST), GM
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >> >>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:42:01 -0600, Sqwertz >
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:40:52 -0800 (PST), wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I had this yesterday. I don't know how my friend made the creamed
> >> >>>>>> spinach, but it had a fair amount of garlic in there. The steak
> >> >>>>>> was done in a frying pan using butter. When the steaks were
> >> >>>>>> taken out of the pan, she put cooked home made noodles in the pan
> >> >>>>>> which had a nice amount of butter still, and tossed them. The
> >> >>>>>> noodles were wide. Excellent stuff.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Yabbut, was Rush Limbaugh or Trump there?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
> >> >>>>> use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
> >> >>>>> and parsley.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> -sw
> >> >>>> Limbaugh was busy, dying lol
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Not a very Christian thing to say, Lucrezia...!!!
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm an atheist and feel entitled to say that about such a great
> >> >> Christian!
> >> >>
> >> > Please don't let GM push your buttons. He's an admitted
> >> > nymshifter/forger of posts. In short, a troll with an agenda. I
> >> > haven't forgotten GM thought the Nazi's were nice people, too.
> >> >
> >> > Jill
> >> And that Trump was a great President, if not one of the greater.

> >
> >
> >Correct, Graham -- if not the best POTUS since President Reagan, then the best of my lifetime (I go back to Ike)...!!!

> I can tell you for sure that Ike would hate it to know you equate him
> with Trump!



Ike was a great POTUS...he was the perfect Prez for the times...as was Trump for our time...both were political "outsiders", they'd find common ground in that...their styles certainly "differ", though...

;-)

--
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:59:01 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-02-18 4:50 p.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 13:46:47 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2021-02-18 12:52 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 2/18/2021 11:09 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>all we say - and it *won't* be very "pretty" for them...
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you think I care what people will say about me after I'm dead?* I
>>>>> barely
>>>>> care what they say about me now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>> Hear hear!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Bear in mind that social media has helped to foster the age of shaming.
>>> Successful people who have done great things are now being vilified for
>>> things that they have said, or were claimed to have said years ago.

>>
>> Well if you admired him, sobeit, I think he was a nasty piece of work.
>>

>
>WTF are you talking about? I was thinking about some of the political
>leaders who acted in the moral standards of their time and have fallen
>from grace. For instance, John A MacDonald has been vilified


Is he the guy who had the original farm?


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On 2/18/2021 4:30 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:20:33 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 2/18/2021 2:14 PM, Bruce wrote:

>
>>> It's a bit hard to admire a historical figure who was, from our modern
>>> perspective, a racist. Just an example.
>>>

>>
>> You can admire what that person achieved, the good works he did. They
>> did the same as their peers and it was acceptable and common practice.
>>
>> Our parents probably did things we'd not accept today but they are still
>> your parents. Should their photos be trashed along side the statue of
>> George Washington?
>> There are things we do every day that may not be considered acceptable
>> 200 years from now. Life evolves. Those now villains of the past
>> helped us become what we are today.

>
> You talk from a very white perspective. I can imagine that a person of
> colour frowns upon a statue of a former slave trader, even if they
> also did good things.
>

To clarify, there were many slave owners. I don't know of any slave
traders that have statues around. Getting to the root, most of the
slave traders were the blacks in Africa selling their own kind. No, I
don't see any good in the traders.
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:50:00 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-02-18 4:39 p.m., Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 10:03:51 -0500, Gary wrote:

>
>>> What the hell is wrong with you people? >;-[]
>>>
>>> <SPIT>

>>
>> I'm glad he's dead, too <spit>. It means less bullshit cross-posting
>> in this and other groups.
>>

>
>So true. I got a new laptop in December and a new desktop last month.
>Once I got my mail reader installed in each of them and started download
>posts I had to set up filters. The top priority was to get rid of the
>topics that were being cross posted and those who were posting their
>crap to multiple groups. Every once in a while I come across a single
>post that is so idiotic that I am surprised that it is not cross posted.


You just read an excerpt from "Killfiles and I, A Journey", by Dave
Smith.
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 17:11:34 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 2/18/2021 4:30 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:20:33 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/18/2021 2:14 PM, Bruce wrote:

>>
>>>> It's a bit hard to admire a historical figure who was, from our modern
>>>> perspective, a racist. Just an example.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You can admire what that person achieved, the good works he did. They
>>> did the same as their peers and it was acceptable and common practice.
>>>
>>> Our parents probably did things we'd not accept today but they are still
>>> your parents. Should their photos be trashed along side the statue of
>>> George Washington?
>>> There are things we do every day that may not be considered acceptable
>>> 200 years from now. Life evolves. Those now villains of the past
>>> helped us become what we are today.

>>
>> You talk from a very white perspective. I can imagine that a person of
>> colour frowns upon a statue of a former slave trader, even if they
>> also did good things.
>>

>To clarify, there were many slave owners. I don't know of any slave
>traders that have statues around.


People who had slaves then.
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Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 12:34:25 -0700, Graham > wrote:
> >On 2021-02-18 9:09 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 10:46:45 AM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> >>> Gary wrote:
> >>>> On 2/17/2021 7:53 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>>>> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
> >>>>>> use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
> >>>>>> and parsley.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -sw
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Limbaugh was busy, dying lol
> >>>> You laugh and joke about someone dying from lung cancer just because he
> >>>> had a different political belief than you? Or maybe also that he became
> >>>> one of the evil RICH with his popular talk show?
> >>>>
> >>>> Shame on you and all the others joking about his death. This shows the
> >>>> liberals for all they are worth.
> >>>>
> >>>> Your celebration and glee means nothing to Rush...he's gone now.
> >>>> At least have some sympathy and respect for his family and friends.
> >>>> If you have nothing good to say, say nothing.
> >>>>
> >>>> What the hell is wrong with you people? >;-[]
> >>>>
> >>>> <SPIT>
> >>> This is the new liberal democratic "progressive" MO, Gary...
> >>>
> >>> One day they will find themselves "on the short end of the stick", shall we say - and it *won't* be very "pretty" for them...
> >>
> >> Do you think I care what people will say about me after I'm dead? I barely
> >> care what they say about me now.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >>

> >Furthermore, if one couldn't say anything positive about him while he
> >was alive, why change now? "One should not speak ill of the dead" is an
> >old superstition!

> Correct, there is nothing good to be said about him, alive or dead. I
> recall when he first came over the horizon, some radio station here
> carried his broadcasts, thankfully they didn't last long. There was
> another one (whose name I can't remember) a woman who was just as bad
> as him.



Dr. Laura perhaps? She started out as fairly liberal, but then her "nude pix" scandal ensued, and she became *very* conservative -- and *not* in a good way! Juicy scandal, and those newdie lewdie pix, OH MY...!!! Dear Lucrezia, my delicate sensibilities were most severely offended...!!! ;-D

"In 1998 Ballance sold a dozen nude photos of Schlessinger to a website for $50,000. At first, she denied being the person in the photos. Later, she claimed she owned the copyright to them. She sued. After failing to get an injunction, Schlessinger dropped the suit. Later Schlessinger said the affair had taken place during a brief period while she was an atheist. Atheist news groups were indignant. The organization American Atheists commented, "Is attempting to legally suppress the nudie pics 'facing up to one's responsibility' or concealing the truth? Is Schlessinger right in using her brutal, tough-love verbal cudgels on callers" when she has these skeletons in her closet?..."

https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/...ell-all-lover/

Dr. Laura's Tell-All Lover

Don Bauder Oct. 14, 2004

"Wouldn't you know it? San Diego's most infamous love affair took place in Los Angeles. It was three decades ago, and it was between talk radio's meanest moralist, Dr. Laura Schlessinger, and talk radio's wittiest wordsmith, Bill "Billo" Ballance, who died here late last month, just short of his 86th birthday.

After pioneering "intimate" talk radio in Los Angeles in the 1960s, Ballance finished his career with KFMB from 1978 to 1993 and then retired here. His Feminine Forum show in L.A., which only took calls from women, incurred the wrath of feminists. So even before he landed at KFMB, Billo had diversified and toned down his show.

That's how I got to be a regular on the show from the mid-1980s until 1993 and stayed in touch with him thereafter. I would drone on about "exogenous variables" affecting the economy, when I knew the audience wanted sex. But I will share a secret: Billo preferred talking about economics and history to talking about the bedroom.

That's even though no one has ever been smoother at relating provocative subjects in a titillating-but-tasteful manner. Examples: "Are you single or condemned?" Or, "Lips are moving like Lassie chewing a Tootsie Roll." And, "The honeymoon is over the first time she says, 'You'll do nothing of the sort.' " Or, "Men: Never worry about an open fly -- what can't get up, can't get out." Or, "Figures don't lie, but girdles condense the truth."

He arrived in San Diego not long after the breakup of his three-year affair with Schlessinger -- then half his age and still married but purportedly planning divorce. With her enthusiastic consent, he had photographed her many times in the nude.

He told me that she called his show one day in 1975 using a pseudonym. He was so intrigued that he had his producer take down her phone number. The next day, they had a tête-a-tête at a luxurious Hollywood Boulevard restaurant. He told her she could be an international radio star. Then they "locked eyeballs in an unwritten agreement" and repaired to his home where "We made frenzied whoopee all afternoon -- we thrashed around like a couple of decorticated lobsters." He used a similar analogy with Vanity Fair magazine: "We thrashed around like a couple of crazed weasels." According to Dr. Susan M. Block of the Institute for Erotic Arts and Sciences, he and Laura would "thrash around under the sheets like a couple of jackrabbits."

During their romance, they used other allegories from nature. According to Vickie L. Bane, author of Dr. Laura: The Unauthorized Biography, Billo called Laura his "little plum" and she called him her "pillow plumsicle." She signed her love notes to him "Your Tottle Bug."

Schlessinger had a natural affinity for nature. That "Dr." in front of her name isn't for a Ph.D. in psychology or some behavioral discipline that would qualify her as a radio shrink; she has a doctorate in physiology. According to author L.W. Milam, writing for Salon.com, Schlessinger's doctoral dissertation was entitled "Effects of Insulin on 3-0 Methylglucose Transport in Isolated Rat Adipocytes." One of her professors said she spent most of her lab time "pulling fat pads off rat testicles," according to Milam.

She does not deny the affair but claims it didn't begin on the afternoon they met. Ballance became her mentor as well as her lover. Through him, she learned the talk-radio business and also cracked Hollywood/media social circles. In getting her into an exclusive hotel in Palm Springs, "I pulled more strings than a cross-eyed harp tuner," he told Milam.

He would have her as a guest on his show. Then she got her break and began her own shows, initially on small stations, while Billo was more isolated in San Diego. Her brand of preaching, teaching, and shrieking at callers resonated with a certain segment of the public. But many hated her; Bane points out that she has been called "Laura the Hen," "A Psychological Bag Lady," "Our National Mommy," "dictatorial," "rude," and "a pain in the ass."

But she cries all the way to the bank. Her shrill bashing of modern norms -- nonmarital cohabitation, *** rights, working moms, feminism -- and support for personal accountability, chastity, and family togetherness reached at one time an audience of 18 million. She sold the show in the late 1990s for $71.5 million, but she bombed on TV in 2001, "and many stations have moved her program from very desirable time periods to lesser ones," says San Diegan Ron Bain, former head of CBS and NBC sports, now in radio syndication. "KOGO in San Diego moved her from 12:00 to 3:00 p.m. live -- following Rush Limbaugh -- to a 6:00 to 9:00 p.m. replay. She has had a wonderful long run, but getting moved to less desirable time periods is the usual beginning of the end." Still, Talker's Magazine ranks her 7th of all-time among talk-show hosts; Billo is 20th.

As she talked her way to the top, Ballance grew annoyed at her. First, he disliked her yelling at callers. Second, he knew that she was a hypocrite -- and not just because of their affair. He -- and many others -- knew she had not spoken to her mother in many years and was despised by former friends she had allegedly manipulated in her ascent to the top. Bane's book is a good reference.

In 1998 Ballance sold a dozen nude photos of Schlessinger to a website for $50,000. At first, she denied being the person in the photos. Later, she claimed she owned the copyright to them. She sued. After failing to get an injunction, Schlessinger dropped the suit. Later Schlessinger said the affair had taken place during a brief period while she was an atheist. Atheist news groups were indignant. The organization American Atheists commented, "Is attempting to legally suppress the nudie pics 'facing up to one's responsibility' or concealing the truth? Is Schlessinger right in using her brutal, tough-love verbal cudgels on callers" when she has these skeletons in her closet?

She claimed Billo made her nude photos public out of spite because she had snubbed him at a Los Angeles conference. Don't believe it. He had long ago told me of his disgust. In mid-1996, I mailed to him a Wall Street Journal article featuring her, in which she acknowledged that he had launched her career. He wrote me back: "You are a prince of scriveners, passing on to me the bogus profundities of Dr. Laura. Her public postures are the precise opposite of [her behavior] when I was dating her, and when I had her on my own show. Metamorphosis time. Some might even call it monumental hypocrisy. But, at least it gets my name in the Wall Street Journal."

All the time I was on the show, I feared Billo would be fired for driving a bored audience away. One time in 1992, I arranged to have a panel discuss the Russian economy -- how it was essentially transaction capitalism, not production capitalism. That was a polite way of saying crooks were all over the place. We got few calls. We got no calls at all for a panel discussion on Bank of Credit and Commerce International, the most corrupt bank in world history. I told Billo during commercial breaks that the audience really wanted to talk about sex. But Billo, who had boned up for those shows, was having too much fun to think about ratings -- and it did give him a chance to throw in his favorite financial institution, Absconders and Defaulters National Bank.

At home, he had 12,000 books, mostly on the Civil War. He was a lover of classical music. In a 1999 letter, he told a story about the late, great conductor and notorious womanizer, Arturo Toscanini. Bill wrote, "Displeased by the singing of a soprano during rehearsal, he grabbed her by the breasts and screamed, 'If only these were BRAINS!' " Toscanini would never have been a guest on Dr. Laura's show..."

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On 2021-02-18 3:01 p.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 12:36:56 -0800 (PST), GM
> > wrote:
>
>> Graham wrote:
>>> On 2021-02-18 11:00 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 2/18/2021 11:26 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 06:52:48 -0800 (PST), GM
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:42:01 -0600, Sqwertz >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:40:52 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I had this yesterday. I don't know how my friend made the creamed
>>>>>>>>> spinach, but it had a fair amount of garlic in there. The steak
>>>>>>>>> was done in a frying pan using butter. When the steaks were
>>>>>>>>> taken out of the pan, she put cooked home made noodles in the pan
>>>>>>>>> which had a nice amount of butter still, and tossed them. The
>>>>>>>>> noodles were wide. Excellent stuff.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yabbut, was Rush Limbaugh or Trump there?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
>>>>>>>> use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
>>>>>>>> and parsley.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>>> Limbaugh was busy, dying lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not a very Christian thing to say, Lucrezia...!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm an atheist and feel entitled to say that about such a great
>>>>> Christian!
>>>>>
>>>> Please don't let GM push your buttons. He's an admitted
>>>> nymshifter/forger of posts. In short, a troll with an agenda. I
>>>> haven't forgotten GM thought the Nazi's were nice people, too.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>> And that Trump was a great President, if not one of the greater.

>>
>>
>> Correct, Graham -- if not the best POTUS since President Reagan, then the best of my lifetime (I go back to Ike)...!!!

>
> I can tell you for sure that Ike would hate it to know you equate him
> with Trump!
>

Morrow's admiration of DT puts him squarely in the "Deplorables" camp
along with a raft of televangelists.
Ike's last campaign promises would today be seen as left wing Democrat.


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> wrote:

> Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 12:36:56 -0800 (PST), GM
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Graham wrote:
>> >> On 2021-02-18 11:00 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> >> > On 2/18/2021 11:26 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> >> >> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 06:52:48 -0800 (PST), GM
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> >> >>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:42:01 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:40:52 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I had this yesterday. I don't know how my friend made the creamed
>> >> >>>>>> spinach, but it had a fair amount of garlic in there. The steak
>> >> >>>>>> was done in a frying pan using butter. When the steaks were
>> >> >>>>>> taken out of the pan, she put cooked home made noodles in the pan
>> >> >>>>>> which had a nice amount of butter still, and tossed them. The
>> >> >>>>>> noodles were wide. Excellent stuff.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Yabbut, was Rush Limbaugh or Trump there?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
>> >> >>>>> use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
>> >> >>>>> and parsley.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> -sw
>> >> >>>> Limbaugh was busy, dying lol
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Not a very Christian thing to say, Lucrezia...!!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm an atheist and feel entitled to say that about such a great
>> >> >> Christian!
>> >> >>
>> >> > Please don't let GM push your buttons. He's an admitted
>> >> > nymshifter/forger of posts. In short, a troll with an agenda. I
>> >> > haven't forgotten GM thought the Nazi's were nice people, too.
>> >> >
>> >> > Jill
>> >> And that Trump was a great President, if not one of the greater.
>> >
>> >
>> >Correct, Graham -- if not the best POTUS since President Reagan, then the best of my lifetime (I go back to Ike)...!!!

>> I can tell you for sure that Ike would hate it to know you equate him
>> with Trump!

>
>
>Ike was a great POTUS...he was the perfect Prez for the times...as was Trump for our time...both were political "outsiders", they'd find common ground in that...their styles certainly "differ", though...
>
>;-)


I only know him as a friend of my father and he had a great sense of
humour and was nice to be around. As unlike Rump as you could get!
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 14:17:55 -0800 (PST), GM
> wrote:

> Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 12:34:25 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>> >On 2021-02-18 9:09 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 10:46:45 AM UTC-5, GM wrote:
>> >>> Gary wrote:
>> >>>> On 2/17/2021 7:53 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> >>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>> >>>>>> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
>> >>>>>> use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
>> >>>>>> and parsley.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> -sw
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Limbaugh was busy, dying lol
>> >>>> You laugh and joke about someone dying from lung cancer just because he
>> >>>> had a different political belief than you? Or maybe also that he became
>> >>>> one of the evil RICH with his popular talk show?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Shame on you and all the others joking about his death. This shows the
>> >>>> liberals for all they are worth.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Your celebration and glee means nothing to Rush...he's gone now.
>> >>>> At least have some sympathy and respect for his family and friends.
>> >>>> If you have nothing good to say, say nothing.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What the hell is wrong with you people? >;-[]
>> >>>>
>> >>>> <SPIT>
>> >>> This is the new liberal democratic "progressive" MO, Gary...
>> >>>
>> >>> One day they will find themselves "on the short end of the stick", shall we say - and it *won't* be very "pretty" for them...
>> >>
>> >> Do you think I care what people will say about me after I'm dead? I barely
>> >> care what they say about me now.
>> >>
>> >> Cindy Hamilton
>> >>
>> >Furthermore, if one couldn't say anything positive about him while he
>> >was alive, why change now? "One should not speak ill of the dead" is an
>> >old superstition!

>> Correct, there is nothing good to be said about him, alive or dead. I
>> recall when he first came over the horizon, some radio station here
>> carried his broadcasts, thankfully they didn't last long. There was
>> another one (whose name I can't remember) a woman who was just as bad
>> as him.

>
>
>Dr. Laura perhaps?

Yes, that was the one.

She started out as fairly liberal, but then her "nude pix" scandal
ensued, and she became *very* conservative -- and *not* in a good way!
Juicy scandal, and those newdie lewdie pix, OH MY...!!! Dear
Lucrezia, my delicate sensibilities were most severely offended...!!!
;-D
>
>"In 1998 Ballance sold a dozen nude photos of Schlessinger to a website for $50,000. At first, she denied being the person in the photos. Later, she claimed she owned the copyright to them. She sued. After failing to get an injunction, Schlessinger dropped the suit. Later Schlessinger said the affair had taken place during a brief period while she was an atheist. Atheist news groups were indignant. The organization American Atheists commented, "Is attempting to legally suppress the nudie pics 'facing up to one's responsibility' or concealing the truth? Is Schlessinger right in using her brutal, tough-love verbal cudgels on callers" when she has these skeletons in her closet?..."
>
>https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/...ell-all-lover/
>
>Dr. Laura's Tell-All Lover
>
>Don Bauder Oct. 14, 2004
>
>"Wouldn't you know it? San Diego's most infamous love affair took place in Los Angeles. It was three decades ago, and it was between talk radio's meanest moralist, Dr. Laura Schlessinger, and talk radio's wittiest wordsmith, Bill "Billo" Ballance, who died here late last month, just short of his 86th birthday.
>
>After pioneering "intimate" talk radio in Los Angeles in the 1960s, Ballance finished his career with KFMB from 1978 to 1993 and then retired here. His Feminine Forum show in L.A., which only took calls from women, incurred the wrath of feminists. So even before he landed at KFMB, Billo had diversified and toned down his show.
>
>That's how I got to be a regular on the show from the mid-1980s until 1993 and stayed in touch with him thereafter. I would drone on about "exogenous variables" affecting the economy, when I knew the audience wanted sex. But I will share a secret: Billo preferred talking about economics and history to talking about the bedroom.
>
>That's even though no one has ever been smoother at relating provocative subjects in a titillating-but-tasteful manner. Examples: "Are you single or condemned?" Or, "Lips are moving like Lassie chewing a Tootsie Roll." And, "The honeymoon is over the first time she says, 'You'll do nothing of the sort.' " Or, "Men: Never worry about an open fly -- what can't get up, can't get out." Or, "Figures don't lie, but girdles condense the truth."
>
>He arrived in San Diego not long after the breakup of his three-year affair with Schlessinger -- then half his age and still married but purportedly planning divorce. With her enthusiastic consent, he had photographed her many times in the nude.
>
>He told me that she called his show one day in 1975 using a pseudonym. He was so intrigued that he had his producer take down her phone number. The next day, they had a tte-a-tte at a luxurious Hollywood Boulevard restaurant. He told her she could be an international radio star. Then they "locked eyeballs in an unwritten agreement" and repaired to his home where "We made frenzied whoopee all afternoon -- we thrashed around like a couple of decorticated lobsters." He used a similar analogy with Vanity Fair magazine: "We thrashed around like a couple of crazed weasels." According to Dr. Susan M. Block of the Institute for Erotic Arts and Sciences, he and Laura would "thrash around under the sheets like a couple of jackrabbits."
>
>During their romance, they used other allegories from nature. According to Vickie L. Bane, author of Dr. Laura: The Unauthorized Biography, Billo called Laura his "little plum" and she called him her "pillow plumsicle." She signed her love notes to him "Your Tottle Bug."
>
>Schlessinger had a natural affinity for nature. That "Dr." in front of her name isn't for a Ph.D. in psychology or some behavioral discipline that would qualify her as a radio shrink; she has a doctorate in physiology. According to author L.W. Milam, writing for Salon.com, Schlessinger's doctoral dissertation was entitled "Effects of Insulin on 3-0 Methylglucose Transport in Isolated Rat Adipocytes." One of her professors said she spent most of her lab time "pulling fat pads off rat testicles," according to Milam.
>
>She does not deny the affair but claims it didn't begin on the afternoon they met. Ballance became her mentor as well as her lover. Through him, she learned the talk-radio business and also cracked Hollywood/media social circles. In getting her into an exclusive hotel in Palm Springs, "I pulled more strings than a cross-eyed harp tuner," he told Milam.
>
>He would have her as a guest on his show. Then she got her break and began her own shows, initially on small stations, while Billo was more isolated in San Diego. Her brand of preaching, teaching, and shrieking at callers resonated with a certain segment of the public. But many hated her; Bane points out that she has been called "Laura the Hen," "A Psychological Bag Lady," "Our National Mommy," "dictatorial," "rude," and "a pain in the ass."
>
>But she cries all the way to the bank. Her shrill bashing of modern norms -- nonmarital cohabitation, *** rights, working moms, feminism -- and support for personal accountability, chastity, and family togetherness reached at one time an audience of 18 million. She sold the show in the late 1990s for $71.5 million, but she bombed on TV in 2001, "and many stations have moved her program from very desirable time periods to lesser ones," says San Diegan Ron Bain, former head of CBS and NBC sports, now in radio syndication. "KOGO in San Diego moved her from 12:00 to 3:00 p.m. live -- following Rush Limbaugh -- to a 6:00 to 9:00 p.m. replay. She has had a wonderful long run, but getting moved to less desirable time periods is the usual beginning of the end." Still, Talker's Magazine ranks her 7th of all-time among talk-show hosts; Billo is 20th.
>
>As she talked her way to the top, Ballance grew annoyed at her. First, he disliked her yelling at callers. Second, he knew that she was a hypocrite -- and not just because of their affair. He -- and many others -- knew she had not spoken to her mother in many years and was despised by former friends she had allegedly manipulated in her ascent to the top. Bane's book is a good reference.
>
>In 1998 Ballance sold a dozen nude photos of Schlessinger to a website for $50,000. At first, she denied being the person in the photos. Later, she claimed she owned the copyright to them. She sued. After failing to get an injunction, Schlessinger dropped the suit. Later Schlessinger said the affair had taken place during a brief period while she was an atheist. Atheist news groups were indignant. The organization American Atheists commented, "Is attempting to legally suppress the nudie pics 'facing up to one's responsibility' or concealing the truth? Is Schlessinger right in using her brutal, tough-love verbal cudgels on callers" when she has these skeletons in her closet?
>
>She claimed Billo made her nude photos public out of spite because she had snubbed him at a Los Angeles conference. Don't believe it. He had long ago told me of his disgust. In mid-1996, I mailed to him a Wall Street Journal article featuring her, in which she acknowledged that he had launched her career. He wrote me back: "You are a prince of scriveners, passing on to me the bogus profundities of Dr. Laura. Her public postures are the precise opposite of [her behavior] when I was dating her, and when I had her on my own show. Metamorphosis time. Some might even call it monumental hypocrisy. But, at least it gets my name in the Wall Street Journal."
>
>All the time I was on the show, I feared Billo would be fired for driving a bored audience away. One time in 1992, I arranged to have a panel discuss the Russian economy -- how it was essentially transaction capitalism, not production capitalism. That was a polite way of saying crooks were all over the place. We got few calls. We got no calls at all for a panel discussion on Bank of Credit and Commerce International, the most corrupt bank in world history. I told Billo during commercial breaks that the audience really wanted to talk about sex. But Billo, who had boned up for those shows, was having too much fun to think about ratings -- and it did give him a chance to throw in his favorite financial institution, Absconders and Defaulters National Bank.
>
>At home, he had 12,000 books, mostly on the Civil War. He was a lover of classical music. In a 1999 letter, he told a story about the late, great conductor and notorious womanizer, Arturo Toscanini. Bill wrote, "Displeased by the singing of a soprano during rehearsal, he grabbed her by the breasts and screamed, 'If only these were BRAINS!' " Toscanini would never have been a guest on Dr. Laura's show..."
>
></>
>
>

She didn't last long on the waves here, I listened to her once driving
home and never again!
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:23:26 -0700, Graham > wrote:

>On 2021-02-18 3:01 p.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 12:36:56 -0800 (PST), GM
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Graham wrote:
>>>> On 2021-02-18 11:00 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 2/18/2021 11:26 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 06:52:48 -0800 (PST), GM
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:42:01 -0600, Sqwertz >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:40:52 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I had this yesterday. I don't know how my friend made the creamed
>>>>>>>>>> spinach, but it had a fair amount of garlic in there. The steak
>>>>>>>>>> was done in a frying pan using butter. When the steaks were
>>>>>>>>>> taken out of the pan, she put cooked home made noodles in the pan
>>>>>>>>>> which had a nice amount of butter still, and tossed them. The
>>>>>>>>>> noodles were wide. Excellent stuff.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yabbut, was Rush Limbaugh or Trump there?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles. That's a good
>>>>>>>>> use of leftover pan juices. Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
>>>>>>>>> and parsley.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>>>> Limbaugh was busy, dying lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not a very Christian thing to say, Lucrezia...!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm an atheist and feel entitled to say that about such a great
>>>>>> Christian!
>>>>>>
>>>>> Please don't let GM push your buttons. He's an admitted
>>>>> nymshifter/forger of posts. In short, a troll with an agenda. I
>>>>> haven't forgotten GM thought the Nazi's were nice people, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>> And that Trump was a great President, if not one of the greater.
>>>
>>>
>>> Correct, Graham -- if not the best POTUS since President Reagan, then the best of my lifetime (I go back to Ike)...!!!

>>
>> I can tell you for sure that Ike would hate it to know you equate him
>> with Trump!
>>

>Morrow's admiration of DT puts him squarely in the "Deplorables" camp
>along with a raft of televangelists.
>Ike's last campaign promises would today be seen as left wing Democrat.


He was a nice, polite man, nothing like Rumps blustering. I think
you're correct, he likely would be seen as left wing today, if only
because he had real concern for regular people.
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>On 2021-02-18 3:01 p.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 12:36:56 -0800 (PST), GM
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Graham wrote:


>>>> And that Trump was a great President, if not one of the greater.
>>>
>>>
>>> Correct, Graham -- if not the best POTUS since President Reagan, then the best of my lifetime (I go back to Ike)...!!!

>>
>> I can tell you for sure that Ike would hate it to know you equate him
>> with Trump!
>>

>Morrow's admiration of DT puts him squarely in the "Deplorables" camp
>along with a raft of televangelists.
>Ike's last campaign promises would today be seen as left wing Democrat.


Say no more. Marxism!
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> wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:23:26 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>
>>On 2021-02-18 3:01 p.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 12:36:56 -0800 (PST), GM
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Correct, Graham -- if not the best POTUS since President Reagan, then the best of my lifetime (I go back to Ike)...!!!
>>>
>>> I can tell you for sure that Ike would hate it to know you equate him
>>> with Trump!
>>>

>>Morrow's admiration of DT puts him squarely in the "Deplorables" camp
>>along with a raft of televangelists.
>>Ike's last campaign promises would today be seen as left wing Democrat.

>
>He was a nice, polite man, nothing like Rumps blustering. I think
>you're correct, he likely would be seen as left wing today, if only
>because he had real concern for regular people.


Concern for regular people is pure Marxism!


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On 2/18/2021 5:06 PM, GM wrote:

>>>>>>
>>>>> Please don't let GM push your buttons. He's an admitted
>>>>> nymshifter/forger of posts. In short, a troll with an agenda. I
>>>>> haven't forgotten GM thought the Nazi's were nice people, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>> And that Trump was a great President, if not one of the greater.
>>>
>>>
>>> Correct, Graham -- if not the best POTUS since President Reagan, then the best of my lifetime (I go back to Ike)...!!!

>> I can tell you for sure that Ike would hate it to know you equate him
>> with Trump!

>
>
> Ike was a great POTUS...he was the perfect Prez for the times...as was Trump for our time...both were political "outsiders", they'd find common ground in that...their styles certainly "differ", though...
>
> ;-)
>


I hoped that Trump would be a good president, especially since he was an
outsider. He drained the swamp and replaced it with a toxic waste dump.

He would have been better had he not lied and not vilified his enemies,
real or perceived. He is a terrible person that I have no respect for.
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On 2/18/2021 9:03 AM, Gary wrote:
> On 2/17/2021 7:53 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> Sqwertz* wrote:
>>> I like idea of "glazing" the pan with cooked noodles.* That's a good
>>> use of leftover pan juices.* Sprinkle with grated Pecorino romano
>>> and parsley.
>>>
>>> -sw

>>
>> Limbaugh was busy, dying lol

>
> You laugh and joke about someone dying from lung cancer just because he
> had a different political belief than you? Or maybe also that he became
> one of the evil RICH with his popular talk show?
>

I would have enjoyed ****ing on his face while he gasped for
air.
>
> Shame on you and all the others joking about his death. This shows the
> liberals for all they are worth.
>

I'd never define myself as a liberal. Other than my son, almost
everyone I love is a liberal, but they all know that I think that
makes them weaklings.
>
> Your celebration and glee means nothing to Rush...he's gone now.
> At least have some sympathy and respect for his family and friends.
> If you have nothing good to say, say nothing.
>

**** you. Folks should mail his family postcards wishing him a
speedy trip to Hell.
>
> What the hell is wrong with you people?* >;-[]
>

I know what's wrong with you. You're too stupid to understand
the damage that prick did.
>
> ** <SPIT>
>

Yeah, you should spit alright. You're a working class schmuck
who's happily allowed the Right to **** you in the mouth. You're
a misogynist Elliot who probably thought Rush was an OK guy.
Yep, you *should* spit, because you've been swallowing for years.

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On 2/18/2021 5:14 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 17:11:34 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 2/18/2021 4:30 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:20:33 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/18/2021 2:14 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>>>> It's a bit hard to admire a historical figure who was, from our modern
>>>>> perspective, a racist. Just an example.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You can admire what that person achieved, the good works he did. They
>>>> did the same as their peers and it was acceptable and common practice.
>>>>
>>>> Our parents probably did things we'd not accept today but they are still
>>>> your parents. Should their photos be trashed along side the statue of
>>>> George Washington?
>>>> There are things we do every day that may not be considered acceptable
>>>> 200 years from now. Life evolves. Those now villains of the past
>>>> helped us become what we are today.
>>>
>>> You talk from a very white perspective. I can imagine that a person of
>>> colour frowns upon a statue of a former slave trader, even if they
>>> also did good things.
>>>

>> To clarify, there were many slave owners. I don't know of any slave
>> traders that have statues around.

>
> People who had slaves then.
>


Again, how do you apply 2021 morals to 1750 common practices? George
Washington owned slaves he inherited. From the little I've read he was
a rather benign owner and took care of them. Just as today, smart
employers treat people properly. Of course, some did not.

Do we no longer celebrate the good he did? You can say whatever you
want but you don't really know how you would have been brought in in the
society of the 1700s and felt about some issues. If your grandparents,
parents, and uncles had slaves would you? Today you can easily say "no"
but in 1750 you may not have thought much about it.
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 19:17:30 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 2/18/2021 5:14 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 17:11:34 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/18/2021 4:30 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:20:33 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/18/2021 2:14 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> It's a bit hard to admire a historical figure who was, from our modern
>>>>>> perspective, a racist. Just an example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You can admire what that person achieved, the good works he did. They
>>>>> did the same as their peers and it was acceptable and common practice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our parents probably did things we'd not accept today but they are still
>>>>> your parents. Should their photos be trashed along side the statue of
>>>>> George Washington?
>>>>> There are things we do every day that may not be considered acceptable
>>>>> 200 years from now. Life evolves. Those now villains of the past
>>>>> helped us become what we are today.
>>>>
>>>> You talk from a very white perspective. I can imagine that a person of
>>>> colour frowns upon a statue of a former slave trader, even if they
>>>> also did good things.
>>>>
>>> To clarify, there were many slave owners. I don't know of any slave
>>> traders that have statues around.

>>
>> People who had slaves then.
>>

>
>Again, how do you apply 2021 morals to 1750 common practices? George
>Washington owned slaves he inherited. From the little I've read he was
>a rather benign owner and took care of them. Just as today, smart
>employers treat people properly. Of course, some did not.
>
>Do we no longer celebrate the good he did? You can say whatever you
>want but you don't really know how you would have been brought in in the
>society of the 1700s and felt about some issues. If your grandparents,
>parents, and uncles had slaves would you? Today you can easily say "no"
>but in 1750 you may not have thought much about it.


I'm not saying they were bad people. I realise that views and
attitudes have changed. I'm only saying it's uncouth (and un-Kuthe) to
revere them with statues and whatnot.
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 18:16:19 -0600, BryanGSimmons
> wrote:

>On 2/18/2021 9:03 AM, Gary wrote:
>>
>> You laugh and joke about someone dying from lung cancer just because he
>> had a different political belief than you? Or maybe also that he became
>> one of the evil RICH with his popular talk show?
> >

>I would have enjoyed ****ing on his face while he gasped for
>air.


Bryan, that's so edgy it hurts! Give us a break, man!

>> Shame on you and all the others joking about his death. This shows the
>> liberals for all they are worth.
> >

>I'd never define myself as a liberal. Other than my son, almost
>everyone I love is a liberal, but they all know that I think that
>makes them weaklings.


Says the man who thinks he's a macho because he buys meat at Aldi.

>> Your celebration and glee means nothing to Rush...he's gone now.
>> At least have some sympathy and respect for his family and friends.
>> If you have nothing good to say, say nothing.
> >

>**** you. Folks should mail his family postcards wishing him a
>speedy trip to Hell.
>>
>> What the hell is wrong with you people?* >;-[]
> >

>I know what's wrong with you. You're too stupid to understand
>the damage that prick did.
>>
>> ** <SPIT>
>>

>Yeah, you should spit alright. You're a working class schmuck
>who's happily allowed the Right to **** you in the mouth. You're
>a misogynist Elliot who probably thought Rush was an OK guy.
>Yep, you *should* spit, because you've been swallowing for years.


Hey Limbaugh was a man. That's all Gary needs to know.
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