On 1/26/2021 11:03 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 5:27:07 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 9:49:48 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>>> On 1/25/2021 2:09 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:49:37 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>>>>> On 1/25/2021 11:53 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 10:58:12 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2021-01-25 8:20 a.m., Snag wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/24/2021 2:33 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2021-01-24 3:00 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. Main room is a bit too hot, the rest is fine from the leached
>>>>>>>>>> heat at 71F. No gas or electricity used but it is somewhat labor
>>>>>>>>>> intensive.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don is really liking the electric splitter. Someone else here got one
>>>>>>>>>> after I posted the link to it. Sorry, forgot who. It is underpowered
>>>>>>>>>> for Snag probably but many others could find it useful.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I mentioned before that I used my neighbour's splitter when I was
>>>>>>>>> cleaning up the branch that fell on my house. BTW.... this was not a
>>>>>>>>> small branch. It was about 2 ft. in diameter where his snapped off the
>>>>>>>>> main trunk. It could not handle those big pieces but it had no
>>>>>>>>> problems with those that were a foot or less across.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They are light enough to move around easily. They might not be
>>>>>>>>> suitable for situations where there is not ready access to
>>>>>>>>> electricity. You need to heavy duty extension cord to handle the
>>>>>>>>> current requirement.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or a generator to power it out there . And if ya gotta haul power out
>>>>>>>> there too you might as well have a gas splitter .
>>>>>>> Exactly. By the time you get an electric splitter and a generator you
>>>>>>> might as well just get the gas powered splitter. It will be more
>>>>>>> powerful and less hassle to move around.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OTOH, a generator can provide household power during an outage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>> Which is why there's one big enough to power everything but the water
>>>>> heater and AC under my workbench along with the hookup to feed the main
>>>>> panel . I've also used it to power one of my welders for doing field
>>>>> repairs . A country boy can survive ... because he thinks ahead and
>>>>> prepares !
>>>>
>>>> Not just a country boy, although it's possible we're a tad bit less prepared for
>>>> anything than we used to be.
>>>>
>>>> We had a portable generator; not big enough for welding IIRC. My husband
>>>> was out of town one winter and I needed to use it after an ice storm. I
>>>> wasn't strong enough to start it (but I got the neighbor to help). We replaced
>>>> it with an automatic standby generator big enough for everything in the
>>>> house, including the central air. It doesn't feed the hot tub, garage, or workshop,
>>>> though. If we needed to fix anything during a power outage, we'd have to haul
>>>> it and any power tools that we'd need up to the house. Most things are on
>>>> wheels; I'm not sure about the table saw. Still, in a pinch I doubt we'd be doing
>>>> any fine woodworking and the circular saw(s) would do just as well.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>> The welder is a small 110V wire feed unit . Good for light work only
>>> , under 3/16" mostly . My generator lives out in the shop , my hookup is
>>> through the shop sub panel for now , though there are plans for a bigger
>>> unit someday that's wired straight into the main via a transfer switch .
>>> I do have to turn off the main breaker and breakers for the big
>>> compressor and water heater , but we still have hot water at the kitchen
>>> sink since it has a point of use heater under the house . I needed
>>> hotter water for the dishwasher than the main unit is set to provide .
>> I'm not sure what my husband's welder is. I know two things:
>>
>> He often shuts down the (220 V) hot tub pump/heater when he welds.
>> Even when he does that, the lights dim a little when he's welding.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> Most people at home have an arc welder. Perhaps in the future we'll be using lasers.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkvJsyP18bk
>

Bullshit , of the people I know less than 1 in 20 have welding
equipment . People no longer repair things , they just toss it and buy
new shit . Not here , at The 12 Acre Wood we believe in that old saying
"Use it up , wear it out , make it do or do without" . We don't often
"do without" simply because I DO have lots of tools and the skills to
use them .
What was YOUR last project that needed welding ? Mine was the weather
vane that's now mounted on our house . Downloaded a rooster pattern ,
enlarged it and cut the rooster out of steel with my plasma cutter ,
other parts cut with the bandsaw , machined the parts that needed
machining with my lathe , welded it all up with the little MIG , and now
we know which way the wind blows ... and the best part is that it was
made completely from material I had on hand . Scraps , as it were .
--
Snag
Illegitimi non
carborundum

On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 07:31:28 -0600, Snag > wrote:

>On 1/26/2021 11:03 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 5:27:07 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 9:49:48 AM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>>>> On 1/25/2021 2:09 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 2:49:37 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/25/2021 11:53 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 10:58:12 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2021-01-25 8:20 a.m., Snag wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 1/24/2021 2:33 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-01-24 3:00 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. Main room is a bit too hot, the rest is fine from the leached
>>>>>>>>>>> heat at 71F. No gas or electricity used but it is somewhat labor
>>>>>>>>>>> intensive.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Don is really liking the electric splitter. Someone else here got one
>>>>>>>>>>> after I posted the link to it. Sorry, forgot who. It is underpowered
>>>>>>>>>>> for Snag probably but many others could find it useful.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I mentioned before that I used my neighbour's splitter when I was
>>>>>>>>>> cleaning up the branch that fell on my house. BTW.... this was not a
>>>>>>>>>> small branch. It was about 2 ft. in diameter where his snapped off the
>>>>>>>>>> main trunk. It could not handle those big pieces but it had no
>>>>>>>>>> problems with those that were a foot or less across.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They are light enough to move around easily. They might not be
>>>>>>>>>> suitable for situations where there is not ready access to
>>>>>>>>>> electricity. You need to heavy duty extension cord to handle the
>>>>>>>>>> current requirement.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or a generator to power it out there . And if ya gotta haul power out
>>>>>>>>> there too you might as well have a gas splitter .
>>>>>>>> Exactly. By the time you get an electric splitter and a generator you
>>>>>>>> might as well just get the gas powered splitter. It will be more
>>>>>>>> powerful and less hassle to move around.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OTOH, a generator can provide household power during an outage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which is why there's one big enough to power everything but the water
>>>>>> heater and AC under my workbench along with the hookup to feed the main
>>>>>> panel . I've also used it to power one of my welders for doing field
>>>>>> repairs . A country boy can survive ... because he thinks ahead and
>>>>>> prepares !
>>>>>
>>>>> Not just a country boy, although it's possible we're a tad bit less prepared for
>>>>> anything than we used to be.
>>>>>
>>>>> We had a portable generator; not big enough for welding IIRC. My husband
>>>>> was out of town one winter and I needed to use it after an ice storm. I
>>>>> wasn't strong enough to start it (but I got the neighbor to help). We replaced
>>>>> it with an automatic standby generator big enough for everything in the
>>>>> house, including the central air. It doesn't feed the hot tub, garage, or workshop,
>>>>> though. If we needed to fix anything during a power outage, we'd have to haul
>>>>> it and any power tools that we'd need up to the house. Most things are on
>>>>> wheels; I'm not sure about the table saw. Still, in a pinch I doubt we'd be doing
>>>>> any fine woodworking and the circular saw(s) would do just as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>> The welder is a small 110V wire feed unit . Good for light work only
>>>> , under 3/16" mostly . My generator lives out in the shop , my hookup is
>>>> through the shop sub panel for now , though there are plans for a bigger
>>>> unit someday that's wired straight into the main via a transfer switch .
>>>> I do have to turn off the main breaker and breakers for the big
>>>> compressor and water heater , but we still have hot water at the kitchen
>>>> sink since it has a point of use heater under the house . I needed
>>>> hotter water for the dishwasher than the main unit is set to provide .
>>> I'm not sure what my husband's welder is. I know two things:
>>>
>>> He often shuts down the (220 V) hot tub pump/heater when he welds.
>>> Even when he does that, the lights dim a little when he's welding.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> Most people at home have an arc welder. Perhaps in the future we'll be using lasers.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkvJsyP18bk
>>
>
> Bullshit , of the people I know less than 1 in 20 have welding
>equipment . People no longer repair things , they just toss it and buy
>new shit . Not here , at The 12 Acre Wood we believe in that old saying
>"Use it up , wear it out , make it do or do without" . We don't often
>"do without" simply because I DO have lots of tools and the skills to
>use them .
> What was YOUR last project that needed welding ? Mine was the weather
>vane that's now mounted on our house . Downloaded a rooster pattern ,
>enlarged it and cut the rooster out of steel with my plasma cutter ,
>other parts cut with the bandsaw , machined the parts that needed
>machining with my lathe , welded it all up with the little MIG , and now
>we know which way the wind blows ... and the best part is that it was
>made completely from material I had on hand . Scraps , as it were .

If you're a Do It Yourselfer and knew what you're doing you'd never
have made a weathervane of steel; brass, copper, bronze, even
aluminum. Why have a pile of rust staining your roofing.
I don't have a welder because I don't need one, I worked for many
years as a Tool & Diemaker in a National Laboratory shop with some of
the best welders on the planet. Fabrication of personal stuff was
known as a Government Job and took priority. If I need welding done
now my next door neighbor owns a metal working shop a two minute walk
from his front door, they do custom metalworking, mostly fancy
schmancy furniture, they do a lot of welding... occasionally they'll
do a welding job for me... but mostly I'll join metal by soldering,
silver soldering, brazing. For intricate sawing I'll use a
coping/jewelers saw... I have no need for many power tools, being
retired I'm in no hurry... I get by with a 3/8" and a 1/2" drill
motor.
I worked with machine tools all my life, I have no desire to make
stuff anymore. I even gave my expensive Johnsered Chainsaw to my
neighbor's 17 year old son, has his own firewood business. If I need
any tree work done he'll be happy to accomodate, at 17 he can climb
and limb trees much better than me at 78. I've no need for a chainsaw
anymore, I get by fine with my 12' pole pruning saw and bow saw. One
important thing I learned is to take no risks with power tools of any
size, I was one of the few who retired with all ten digets.
Whenever I go to a hardware store I see them selling all kinds of
power tools, riding lawnmowers, even chainsaws, to kids who can't be
more than 11 years old. I firmly believe that anyone of any age
wanting to buy a chainsaw needs to have a Licence to operate it. Some
2-3 years ago a handyman I sometimes hired was telling me how his 12
year old son was helping him on a carpentry job, the kid was cutting
sheets of plywood with a skillsaw, in the blink of an eye he sawed off
most of his left hand.
I know very well how to use a chainsaw but with all my experience I
realized that I reached the point where I'm too old, I no longer have
the balance I once had. Okay, I still do fine with kitchen knives but
I will one day need to stop, I already stopped swinging a cleaver, now
I whack it through with a hunk of wood... that's how I slice melons
and winter squash.