On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 21:14:24 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-12-12 8:42 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>>> I've never heard the term 26er. I gather the term "fifth" is a
>>>> pretty archaic term but it used to refer to a standard bottle size when
>>>> it comes to buying whiskey, rum, vodka, etc.
>>> It is a fifth of a gallon.
>> It's so strange that someone would want to divide a gallon into 5 parts. I think that dividing a gallon into 2, 4, or 8, parts is much more sensible.
>>
>
>That's not very strange compared to some of our other archaic
>measurements, like 12 inches in a foot, 16 ounces in a pound, a
>temperature scale where water freezes at 32 and boils at 212.

That's why you people need a bit of help from us Europeans. Feet,
inches, cups, fluid ounces, lbs'es, miles, Fahrenheit... it was a
barrel of fun in the 19th century, but it's 2020 now...

On 2020 Dec 12, , dsi1 wrote
(in >):

> It's so strange that someone would want to divide a gallon into 5 parts. I
> think that dividing a gallon into 2, 4, or 8, parts is much more sensible.

A half pint gave you a buzz.
A pint gave you a heat.
A fifth got you drunk.
A quart passed you out.

Umm...at least someone told me that once ;-) And it makes sense for an
underaged evening out. I know there were no metric measures for booze in the
Sixties. I can´t recall, or couldn´t afford, anything larger than a
quart.
We used to buy beer by the six-pack or case. Six-packs are still around. A
case was twenty-four. Now, I can get 14 packs, 20 packs and 30 packs for the
brand I buy. I can´t find an old-time case.
Smoking cigarettes and drinking were the only escapes we had back then. Can
you imagine?

On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 8:35:33 PM UTC-6, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Dec 12, , dsi1 wrote
> (in >):
> > It's so strange that someone would want to divide a gallon into 5 parts.. I
> > think that dividing a gallon into 2, 4, or 8, parts is much more sensible.
> A half pint gave you a buzz.
> A pint gave you a heat.
> A fifth got you drunk.
> A quart passed you out.
>
> Umm...at least someone told me that once ;-) And it makes sense for an
> underaged evening out. I know there were no metric measures for booze in the
> Sixties. I can´t recall, or couldn´t afford, anything larger than a
> quart.
> We used to buy beer by the six-pack or case. Six-packs are still around. A
> case was twenty-four. Now, I can get 14 packs, 20 packs and 30 packs for the
> brand I buy. I can´t find an old-time case.
> Smoking cigarettes and drinking were the only escapes we had back then. Can
> you imagine?


No sex, Leo...???

😋

--
Best
Greg

On 12/12/2020 8:42 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 8:18:49 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2020-12-11 12:25 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 12/11/2020 12:04 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> I have to confess that I had heard of a fifth of whisky but never knew
>>>> what it was. It is not a term used here. I thought it was something
>>>> like a mickey, maybe smaller. I had to look it up and it turns out to
>>>> be what we have always called a 26er.
>>>
>>> I've never heard the term 26er. I gather the term "fifth" is a
>>> pretty archaic term but it used to refer to a standard bottle size when
>>> it comes to buying whiskey, rum, vodka, etc.
>> It is a fifth of a gallon.
> It's so strange that someone would want to divide a gallon into 5 parts. I think that dividing a gallon into 2, 4, or 8, parts is much more sensible.
>

It was probably to align with 750 ml wine bottle from Europe. They use
the ancient metric system over there.

On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 4:14:32 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-12-12 8:42 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> >
> >>> I've never heard the term 26er. I gather the term "fifth" is a
> >>> pretty archaic term but it used to refer to a standard bottle size when
> >>> it comes to buying whiskey, rum, vodka, etc.
> >> It is a fifth of a gallon.
> > It's so strange that someone would want to divide a gallon into 5 parts. I think that dividing a gallon into 2, 4, or 8, parts is much more sensible.
> >
> That's not very strange compared to some of our other archaic
> measurements, like 12 inches in a foot, 16 ounces in a pound, a
> temperature scale where water freezes at 32 and boils at 212.
The Americans never asked to be saddled with Imperial measurements. It's the Brits fault!

On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 4:35:33 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Dec 12, , dsi1 wrote
> (in >):
> > It's so strange that someone would want to divide a gallon into 5 parts.. I
> > think that dividing a gallon into 2, 4, or 8, parts is much more sensible.
> A half pint gave you a buzz.
> A pint gave you a heat.
> A fifth got you drunk.
> A quart passed you out.
>
> Umm...at least someone told me that once ;-) And it makes sense for an
> underaged evening out. I know there were no metric measures for booze in the
> Sixties. I can´t recall, or couldn´t afford, anything larger than a
> quart.
> We used to buy beer by the six-pack or case. Six-packs are still around. A
> case was twenty-four. Now, I can get 14 packs, 20 packs and 30 packs for the
> brand I buy. I can´t find an old-time case.
> Smoking cigarettes and drinking were the only escapes we had back then. Can
> you imagine?
In my case, the scale has to re-calibrated. A half pint will get me drunk, a fifth would put me in a coma, dead at a quart. I certainly can't hold my liquor. I'm like that goody two-shoes Mike Pence.

On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 4:39:29 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 12/12/2020 8:42 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 8:18:49 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2020-12-11 12:25 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> >>> On 12/11/2020 12:04 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I have to confess that I had heard of a fifth of whisky but never knew
> >>>> what it was. It is not a term used here. I thought it was something
> >>>> like a mickey, maybe smaller. I had to look it up and it turns out to
> >>>> be what we have always called a 26er.
> >>>
> >>> I've never heard the term 26er. I gather the term "fifth" is a
> >>> pretty archaic term but it used to refer to a standard bottle size when
> >>> it comes to buying whiskey, rum, vodka, etc.
> >> It is a fifth of a gallon.
> > It's so strange that someone would want to divide a gallon into 5 parts. I think that dividing a gallon into 2, 4, or 8, parts is much more sensible.
> >
> It was probably to align with 750 ml wine bottle from Europe. They use
> the ancient metric system over there.
The way that alcohol is sold makes me think that someone is trying to pull the wool over one's eyes.

On 2020 Dec 12, , GM wrote
(in >):

> On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 8:35:33 PM UTC-6, Leo wrote:
> > Smoking cigarettes and drinking were the only escapes we had back then. Can
> > you imagine?
>
> No sex, Leo...???

Sex was a trap. No birth control either. Shotgun marriages were real. Ah, the
good ole days!

leo

On 2020-12-12 10:04 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 4:14:32 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2020-12-12 8:42 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I've never heard the term 26er. I gather the term "fifth" is a
>>>>> pretty archaic term but it used to refer to a standard bottle size when
>>>>> it comes to buying whiskey, rum, vodka, etc.
>>>> It is a fifth of a gallon.
>>> It's so strange that someone would want to divide a gallon into 5 parts. I think that dividing a gallon into 2, 4, or 8, parts is much more sensible.
>>>
>> That's not very strange compared to some of our other archaic
>> measurements, like 12 inches in a foot, 16 ounces in a pound, a
>> temperature scale where water freezes at 32 and boils at 212.
> The Americans never asked to be saddled with Imperial measurements. It's the Brits fault!
>

If that is the case, why don't they use the same units?

On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 6:15:23 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-12-12 10:04 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 4:14:32 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2020-12-12 8:42 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> I've never heard the term 26er. I gather the term "fifth" is a
> >>>>> pretty archaic term but it used to refer to a standard bottle size when
> >>>>> it comes to buying whiskey, rum, vodka, etc.
> >>>> It is a fifth of a gallon.
> >>> It's so strange that someone would want to divide a gallon into 5 parts. I think that dividing a gallon into 2, 4, or 8, parts is much more sensible.
> >>>
> >> That's not very strange compared to some of our other archaic
> >> measurements, like 12 inches in a foot, 16 ounces in a pound, a
> >> temperature scale where water freezes at 32 and boils at 212.
> > The Americans never asked to be saddled with Imperial measurements. It's the Brits fault!
> >
> If that is the case, why don't they use the same units?
When the Brits changed to metric, they sold all their imperial measurements to the Americans for a low, low price. The Americans, being a young nation and simple, thought they were getting a great deal. The Brits, with this simple move, moved themselves into an easy future while saddling America with a measurement system that keeps them back in the dark ages.

Curiously, the Brits still use miles per hour for their speed limits. When I was going 70 on the freeway (expressway?) in the UK I thought I was going 70KPH i.e., around 45MPH. In reality, I was going much faster i.e., 70MPH. To a Hawaiian, that's like going super fast!

On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 21:39:20 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> > It's so strange that someone would want to divide a gallon into 5 parts. I think that dividing a gallon into 2, 4, or 8, parts is much more sensible.

> It was probably to align with 750 ml wine bottle from Europe. They use
> the ancient metric system over there.
I always thought it had something to do with taxation but apparently
not. It seems to have been some sort of marketing or pricing ploy
instead:

"In the late 19th century, liquor in the US was often sold in bottles
which appeared to hold one US quart (32 US fl oz; 950 ml), but in fact
contained less than a quart and were called "fifths" or commercial
quarts. At this time, one-fifth of a gallon was a common legal
threshold for the difference between selling by the drink and selling
by the bottle or at wholesale, and thus the difference between a
drinking saloon or barroom and a dry-goods store."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_(unit)

--
Bob
Who buys his booze by the liter

On 13/12/2020 04:44, dsi1 wrote:

> When the Brits changed to metric, they sold all their imperial measurements to the Americans for a low, low price. The Americans, being a young nation and simple, thought they were getting a great deal. The Brits, with this simple move, moved themselves into an easy future while saddling America with a measurement system that keeps them back in the dark ages.
>
Imperial gallons are considerably larger than US gallons, and Imperial
fluid ounces aren't exactly the same as US fluid ounces.

On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 11:52:12 PM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 13/12/2020 04:44, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > When the Brits changed to metric, they sold all their imperial measurements to the Americans for a low, low price. The Americans, being a young nation and simple, thought they were getting a great deal. The Brits, with this simple move, moved themselves into an easy future while saddling America with a measurement system that keeps them back in the dark ages.
> >
> Imperial gallons are considerably larger than US gallons, and Imperial
> fluid ounces aren't exactly the same as US fluid ounces.
The Brits are still using Imperial gallons? How backwards is that?

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 4:14:32 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-12-12 8:42 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> >
> >>> I've never heard the term 26er. I gather the term "fifth" is a
> >>> pretty archaic term but it used to refer to a standard bottle size
> >>> when
> >>> it comes to buying whiskey, rum, vodka, etc.
> >> It is a fifth of a gallon.
> > It's so strange that someone would want to divide a gallon into 5 parts.
> > I think that dividing a gallon into 2, 4, or 8, parts is much more
> > sensible.
> >
> That's not very strange compared to some of our other archaic
> measurements, like 12 inches in a foot, 16 ounces in a pound, a
> temperature scale where water freezes at 32 and boils at 212.
The Americans never asked to be saddled with Imperial measurements. It's the
Brits fault!

=====

We never asked you to keep it !!!! Nothing is forcing you to keep it Mr
fusspot!!!!!!

So there!!!!!

<g>

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 6:15:23 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-12-12 10:04 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 4:14:32 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2020-12-12 8:42 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> I've never heard the term 26er. I gather the term "fifth" is a
> >>>>> pretty archaic term but it used to refer to a standard bottle size
> >>>>> when
> >>>>> it comes to buying whiskey, rum, vodka, etc.
> >>>> It is a fifth of a gallon.
> >>> It's so strange that someone would want to divide a gallon into 5
> >>> parts. I think that dividing a gallon into 2, 4, or 8, parts is much
> >>> more sensible.
> >>>
> >> That's not very strange compared to some of our other archaic
> >> measurements, like 12 inches in a foot, 16 ounces in a pound, a
> >> temperature scale where water freezes at 32 and boils at 212.
> > The Americans never asked to be saddled with Imperial measurements. It's
> > the Brits fault!
> >
> If that is the case, why don't they use the same units?
When the Brits changed to metric, they sold all their imperial measurements
to the Americans for a low, low price. The Americans, being a young nation
and simple, thought they were getting a great deal. The Brits, with this
simple move, moved themselves into an easy future while saddling America
with a measurement system that keeps them back in the dark ages.

Curiously, the Brits still use miles per hour for their speed limits. When I
was going 70 on the freeway (expressway?) in the UK I thought I was going
70KPH i.e., around 45MPH. In reality, I was going much faster i.e., 70MPH.
To a Hawaiian, that's like going super fast!

====

LOL well if you want to visit us, you need to learn ... innit???

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 11:52:12 PM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 13/12/2020 04:44, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > When the Brits changed to metric, they sold all their imperial
> > measurements to the Americans for a low, low price. The Americans, being
> > a young nation and simple, thought they were getting a great deal. The
> > Brits, with this simple move, moved themselves into an easy future while
> > saddling America with a measurement system that keeps them back in the
> > dark ages.
> >
> Imperial gallons are considerably larger than US gallons, and Imperial
> fluid ounces aren't exactly the same as US fluid ounces.
The Brits are still using Imperial gallons? How backwards is that?

====

OY Don't push yer luck Pal !!!

On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 4:32:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
> On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 6:15:23 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2020-12-12 10:04 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 4:14:32 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >> On 2020-12-12 8:42 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>> I've never heard the term 26er. I gather the term "fifth" is a
> > >>>>> pretty archaic term but it used to refer to a standard bottle size
> > >>>>> when
> > >>>>> it comes to buying whiskey, rum, vodka, etc.
> > >>>> It is a fifth of a gallon.
> > >>> It's so strange that someone would want to divide a gallon into 5
> > >>> parts. I think that dividing a gallon into 2, 4, or 8, parts is much
> > >>> more sensible.
> > >>>
> > >> That's not very strange compared to some of our other archaic
> > >> measurements, like 12 inches in a foot, 16 ounces in a pound, a
> > >> temperature scale where water freezes at 32 and boils at 212.
> > > The Americans never asked to be saddled with Imperial measurements. It's
> > > the Brits fault!
> > >
> > If that is the case, why don't they use the same units?
> When the Brits changed to metric, they sold all their imperial measurements
> to the Americans for a low, low price. The Americans, being a young nation
> and simple, thought they were getting a great deal. The Brits, with this
> simple move, moved themselves into an easy future while saddling America
> with a measurement system that keeps them back in the dark ages.
>
> Curiously, the Brits still use miles per hour for their speed limits. When I
> was going 70 on the freeway (expressway?) in the UK I thought I was going
> 70KPH i.e., around 45MPH. In reality, I was going much faster i.e., 70MPH..
> To a Hawaiian, that's like going super fast!
> ====
>
> LOL well if you want to visit us, you need to learn ... innit???
Next time we'll stay longer so I can be more at ease. I almost got killed crossing the street. Americans will look both ways while crossing the streets. They look to the left when stepping out into the street. This could kill you in the UK because they could step right out into the path of a car. My recommendation for Americans in the UK is to never cross the street alone and to make sure that the people you're crossing the streets with aren't Americans.

On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 4:33:58 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
> On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 11:52:12 PM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote:
> > On 13/12/2020 04:44, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > When the Brits changed to metric, they sold all their imperial
> > > measurements to the Americans for a low, low price. The Americans, being
> > > a young nation and simple, thought they were getting a great deal. The
> > > Brits, with this simple move, moved themselves into an easy future while
> > > saddling America with a measurement system that keeps them back in the
> > > dark ages.
> > >
> > Imperial gallons are considerably larger than US gallons, and Imperial
> > fluid ounces aren't exactly the same as US fluid ounces.
> The Brits are still using Imperial gallons? How backwards is that?
> ====
>
> OY Don't push yer luck Pal !!!
Speaking of pushing my luck, my daughter bought one of those advent calendars for her daughter. I opened one up to check what was inside and boy was I surprised! There was an old moldy looking piece of brownish-grey material in there! Whoa! I thought - this must be an old calendar. I check for a pull date on the box. It said June 2022. Ha ha ha. This is a surefire way to make sure that your kid's 24 days of Christmas will be filled with, not happiness and joy, but with disappointment and sadness. I'm going to have to buy some more for my son's kids!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FtYRHTJgVSPe7hu2A

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 4:32:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
> On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 6:15:23 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2020-12-12 10:04 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 4:14:32 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >> On 2020-12-12 8:42 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>> I've never heard the term 26er. I gather the term "fifth" is a
> > >>>>> pretty archaic term but it used to refer to a standard bottle size
> > >>>>> when
> > >>>>> it comes to buying whiskey, rum, vodka, etc.
> > >>>> It is a fifth of a gallon.
> > >>> It's so strange that someone would want to divide a gallon into 5
> > >>> parts. I think that dividing a gallon into 2, 4, or 8, parts is much
> > >>> more sensible.
> > >>>
> > >> That's not very strange compared to some of our other archaic
> > >> measurements, like 12 inches in a foot, 16 ounces in a pound, a
> > >> temperature scale where water freezes at 32 and boils at 212.
> > > The Americans never asked to be saddled with Imperial measurements.
> > > It's
> > > the Brits fault!
> > >
> > If that is the case, why don't they use the same units?
> When the Brits changed to metric, they sold all their imperial
> measurements
> to the Americans for a low, low price. The Americans, being a young nation
> and simple, thought they were getting a great deal. The Brits, with this
> simple move, moved themselves into an easy future while saddling America
> with a measurement system that keeps them back in the dark ages.
>
> Curiously, the Brits still use miles per hour for their speed limits. When
> I
> was going 70 on the freeway (expressway?) in the UK I thought I was going
> 70KPH i.e., around 45MPH. In reality, I was going much faster i.e., 70MPH.
> To a Hawaiian, that's like going super fast!
> ====
>
> LOL well if you want to visit us, you need to learn ... innit???
Next time we'll stay longer so I can be more at ease. I almost got killed
crossing the street. Americans will look both ways while crossing the
streets. They look to the left when stepping out into the street. This could
kill you in the UK because they could step right out into the path of a car.
My recommendation for Americans in the UK is to never cross the street alone
and to make sure that the people you're crossing the streets with aren't
Americans.

====

LOL Well you could just use a pedestrian crossing <g>

https://www.google.com/search?
q=pedestrian+crossing+types&rlz=1C1RLNS_enGB892GB8 92&oq=pedestrian+crossing&aqs=chrome.3.69i57j0i131 i433j0l6.8685j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Let me know when you are coming and we will be happy to teach you .)))