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On 2020-12-03 12:43 p.m., Graham wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 11:41:30 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

>>
>> ????? If there is a basic $10,000 exemption the $20,000 earners pay tax
>> on 50% on their income. People with $100,000 earnings who get the same
>> $10,000 exemption pay tax on 90% of their income, not 10%.
>>
>> A lot of the basics in life are tax exempt in most places, like
>> groceries. Sales tax is almost an attempt to put a higher tax burden on
>> those with more money. They may pay the same percentage rate for sales
>> tax, but they are buying more, so spending more.
>>
> Perhaps on luxury items but the poor use the same toilet paper as the rich
> and the latter don't shit more!
>

That's true. Tax laws are not simple and there is no way to please
everyone. That's why countries, states and provinces have their own tax
laws. Some have sales taxes and some do not. Some have programs that
need funding and others see no need for those services if it is going to
cost the taxpayers more.

I remember some toilet stall graffiti from the early 70s.... when shit
becomes of value the poor will be born without assholes.

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On 2020-12-03 12:47 p.m., Graham wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Dec 2020 04:45:23 +1100, Bruce wrote:
>
and the latter don't shit more!
>>
>> Poor people keep running to the toilet because of all the fast food.
>
> Why do you think it's called fast?
>

LOL.... Some years ago my brother told me about driving his daughter to
Windsor for university. They had stopped along the way for lunch.
Fifteen minutes later he had to go so badly he thought he was going to
explode. I asked him if he had eaten at McDonalds. Sure enough. He is
my brother and we share the same inherited digestive processes. I had
made the mistake of eating at McDs a couple times in my early years
working on the road.

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On 12/3/2020 11:21 AM, Graham wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 07:50:01 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 10:31:22 AM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
>>> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 03:23:23 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tennessee's method is regressive, hitting the poor more severely.
>>> All flat taxes are!
>>
>> Sales tax is more regressive than income tax. Suppose it takes $10,000
>> in taxable purchases to keep body and soul together. Someone who makes
>> $20,000 pays tax on 50% of their income, but someone who makes $100,000
>> pays tax on 10% of their income.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> Many right wingers lobby for a flat income tax as being fairer but it's
> only fairer for the wealthy.
>

Hybrid flat tax. First $20,000, no tax. Next $30,000 very low tax,
Next $XX,000 a bit higher tax and so forth. No deductions, no
exemptions, no bull shit from accountants and lawyers.

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Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 10:43:29 -0700, Graham > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 11:41:30 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> On 2020-12-03 10:50 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sales tax is more regressive than income tax. Suppose it takes $10,000
>>>> in taxable purchases to keep body and soul together. Someone who makes
>>>> $20,000 pays tax on 50% of their income, but someone who makes $100,000
>>>> pays tax on 10% of their income.
>>>
>>> ????? If there is a basic $10,000 exemption the $20,000 earners pay tax
>>> on 50% on their income. People with $100,000 earnings who get the same
>>> $10,000 exemption pay tax on 90% of their income, not 10%.
>>>
>>> A lot of the basics in life are tax exempt in most places, like
>>> groceries. Sales tax is almost an attempt to put a higher tax burden on
>>> those with more money. They may pay the same percentage rate for sales
>>> tax, but they are buying more, so spending more.
>>>
>> Perhaps on luxury items but the poor use the same toilet paper as the rich
>> and the latter don't shit more!
>
> Poor people keep running to the toilet because of all the fast food.
>

And you're right behind them!

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On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 5:42:04 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 5:12:58 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>
> > It's all in the sauce , man . The sauce is the conductor for the
> > entire pie , the toppings are the instruments . Some like a heavy bass
> > note , some like piccolos and flutes ... we like a balanced medley of
> > flavors .
> It's a duet between the sauce and the crust. The best sauce in the
> world will not save a pizza with a crappy crust.
>
> To me, the crust is so important that I vanishingly rarely use sauce.
> Diced fresh tomatoes do the trick for me.

No wonder people carry on so much about what olive oil is in or on the crust

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On 2020-12-03 1:43 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 12/3/2020 11:21 AM, Graham wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 07:50:01 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 10:31:22 AM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 03:23:23 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tennessee's method is regressive, hitting the poor more severely.
>>>> All flat taxes are!
>>>
>>> Sales tax is more regressive than income tax.Â* Suppose it takes $10,000
>>> in taxable purchases to keep body and soul together.Â* Someone who makes
>>> $20,000 pays tax on 50% of their income, but someone who makes $100,000
>>> pays tax on 10% of their income.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> Many right wingers lobby for a flat income tax as being fairer but it's
>> only fairer for the wealthy.
>>
>
> Hybrid flat tax.Â* First $20,000, no tax.Â* Next $30,000 very low tax,
> Next $XX,000 a bit higher tax and so forth.Â* No deductions, no
> exemptions, no bull shit from accountants and lawyers.


Come up here and run for prime minister. You will have my vote.

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On 12/3/2020 4:53 PM, Transition Zone wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 5:42:04 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 5:12:58 PM UTC-5, Snag wrote:
>>
>>> It's all in the sauce , man . The sauce is the conductor for the
>>> entire pie , the toppings are the instruments . Some like a heavy bass
>>> note , some like piccolos and flutes ... we like a balanced medley of
>>> flavors .
>> It's a duet between the sauce and the crust. The best sauce in the
>> world will not save a pizza with a crappy crust.
>>
>> To me, the crust is so important that I vanishingly rarely use sauce.
>> Diced fresh tomatoes do the trick for me.
>
> No wonder people carry on so much about what olive oil is in or on the crust
>

Made like that, the OO is important. I like fresh tomatoes on pizza.
Most pizza uses sauce and no matter how good the crust is, crappy sauce
will spoil the experience. You need balance, same with cheese and
toppings. We all have different tastes of course, but crap ingredients
are a fail.

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On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 18:01:50 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-12-03 1:43 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 12/3/2020 11:21 AM, Graham wrote:
>>> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 07:50:01 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 10:31:22 AM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 03:23:23 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tennessee's method is regressive, hitting the poor more severely.
>>>>> All flat taxes are!
>>>>
>>>> Sales tax is more regressive than income tax.Â* Suppose it takes $10,000
>>>> in taxable purchases to keep body and soul together.Â* Someone who makes
>>>> $20,000 pays tax on 50% of their income, but someone who makes $100,000
>>>> pays tax on 10% of their income.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> Many right wingers lobby for a flat income tax as being fairer but it's
>>> only fairer for the wealthy.
>>>
>>
>> Hybrid flat tax.Â* First $20,000, no tax.Â* Next $30,000 very low tax,
>> Next $XX,000 a bit higher tax and so forth.Â* No deductions, no
>> exemptions, no bull shit from accountants and lawyers.
>
>
>Come up here and run for prime minister. You will have my vote.

Are you saying this is a new idea? You North Americans need to get out
more.

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On 2020 Dec 3, , Ed Pawlowski wrote
(in article >):

> Hybrid flat tax. First $20,000, no tax. Next $30,000 very low tax,
> Next $XX,000 a bit higher tax and so forth. No deductions, no
> exemptions, no bull shit from accountants and lawyers.

Sorry Ed, but the accountant and lawyer lobby won´t stand for that, and
lawyers control Congress. Too many of them become President.

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Sqwertz wrote:

> On Wed, 02 Dec 2020 18:55:16 -0600, cshenk wrote:
>
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 15:21:50 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >
> >> You both are crazy if you think sauce is more important than crust.
> >> The most common sauce is simply pure crushed tomatoes. The crust,
> >> OTOH, takes a lot to get right. That's why so places invest in
> fancy >> ovens - not sauce.
> >>
> >> And most places don't use full fat motz, it's almost always part
> >> skim.
> >
> > Steve, sorry but it really is in the sauce though the crust isn't
> > ignorable. Most commercial places dummy down the sauce now and add
> > sugar.
>
> Sorry, Carol and Bryan, but it's the crust. In a poll of 3000+
> foodies, almost twice as many people (over 54%) said it was the
> crust, followed by 29% the sauce.
>
>
https://slice.seriouseats.com/2013/1...-toppings.html
>
> I win again! <snork> Y'all are free to try and dig up your own
> surveys or create your own.
>
> -sw

Count me the 29% then but I know how to make a crust, so the difference
is the sauce.

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Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2020-12-03 12:55 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Wed, 02 Dec 2020 18:55:16 -0600, cshenk wrote:
> >
> > > Sqwertz wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 15:21:50 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > >
> > > > You both are crazy if you think sauce is more important than
> > > > crust. The most common sauce is simply pure crushed tomatoes.
> > > > The crust, OTOH, takes a lot to get right. That's why so places
> > > > invest in fancy ovens - not sauce.
> > > >
> > > > And most places don't use full fat motz, it's almost always part
> > > > skim.
> > >
> > > Steve, sorry but it really is in the sauce though the crust isn't
> > > ignorable. Most commercial places dummy down the sauce now and
> > > add sugar.
> >
> > Sorry, Carol and Bryan, but it's the crust. In a poll of 3000+
> > foodies, almost twice as many people (over 54%) said it was the
> > crust, followed by 29% the sauce.
>
> Count me among those who are most concerned about the crust. The
> sauce is just a condiment. The toppings are number two. Most
> pizzerias are cheap with the toppings, which they charge a heck of a
> lot for. We have been making pizzas regularly for the last few
> months and I add lots of green pepper, red pepper, red onion,
> mushrooms, and a bit of hot pepper and sliced fresh tomato. You can
> barely see the sauce. If I were t add pepperoni it would be sliced
> thin but pretty well cover the pizza, unlike the chain outlets where
> you get one or two pieces of pepperoni per slice.
>
>
>
> >
> >
https://slice.seriouseats.com/2013/1...-toppings.html
> >
> >I win again! <snork> Y'all are free to try and dig up your own
> > surveys or create your own.
> >
> >
> 8.7% of facts posted on the internet are fabricated by the poster.

What's your favorite Dough recipe you use?

I'm partial to this one:

1.5lb dough

1 c water
4 ts olive oil
2 3/4 c flour
1/4 c cornmeal
3/4 ts salt
1 ts yeast
3-4 ts various spices (matched to the pizza)

I add that all into the machine and put it in dough mode then when out,
shape to the pan (or pans, might make 2 smaller ones), rolling to thick
or thick at the mood of the time. Generally 2 thin or 1 thick there.
Roll them out a bit bigger and you can tuck bits of cheese and
seasonings along that then fold over and crimp down a bit with fingers
or fork for a nice crust edge.

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Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-12-03 1:43 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 12/3/2020 11:21 AM, Graham wrote:
>>> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 07:50:01 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 10:31:22 AM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 03:23:23 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tennessee's method is regressive, hitting the poor more
>>>>>> severely.
>>>>> All flat taxes are!
>>>>
>>>> Sales tax is more regressive than income tax.Â* Suppose it
>>>> takes $10,000
>>>> in taxable purchases to keep body and soul together.Â* Someone
>>>> who makes
>>>> $20,000 pays tax on 50% of their income, but someone who makes
>>>> $100,000
>>>> pays tax on 10% of their income.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>> Many right wingers lobby for a flat income tax as being fairer
>>> but it's
>>> only fairer for the wealthy.
>>>
>>
>> Hybrid flat tax.Â* First $20,000, no tax.Â* Next $30,000 very low
>> tax, Next $XX,000 a bit higher tax and so forth.Â* No deductions,
>> no exemptions, no bull shit from accountants and lawyers.
>
>
> Come up here and run for prime minister. You will have my vote.
>

If the last 150 years of history means anything, canadians would
still whine.

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On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 2:16:17 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 02 Dec 2020 18:55:16 -0600, cshenk wrote:
> >
> > > Sqwertz wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 15:21:50 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > >
> > >> You both are crazy if you think sauce is more important than crust.
> > >> The most common sauce is simply pure crushed tomatoes. The crust,
> > >> OTOH, takes a lot to get right. That's why so places invest in
> > fancy >> ovens - not sauce.
> > >>
> > >> And most places don't use full fat motz, it's almost always part
> > >> skim.
> > >
> > > Steve, sorry but it really is in the sauce though the crust isn't
> > > ignorable. Most commercial places dummy down the sauce now and add
> > > sugar.
> >
> > Sorry, Carol and Bryan, but it's the crust. In a poll of 3000+
> > foodies, almost twice as many people (over 54%) said it was the
> > crust, followed by 29% the sauce.
> >
> >
> https://slice.seriouseats.com/2013/1...-toppings.html
> >
> > I win again! <snork> Y'all are free to try and dig up your own
> > surveys or create your own.
> >
> > -sw
>
> Count me the 29% then but I know how to make a crust, so the difference
> is the sauce.
As it goes, it all depends.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rqRiU1baFUiGwoT9A

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Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 18:01:50 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2020-12-03 1:43 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 12/3/2020 11:21 AM, Graham wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 07:50:01 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 10:31:22 AM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 03:23:23 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tennessee's method is regressive, hitting the poor more severely.
>>>>>> All flat taxes are!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sales tax is more regressive than income tax.Â* Suppose it takes $10,000
>>>>> in taxable purchases to keep body and soul together.Â* Someone who makes
>>>>> $20,000 pays tax on 50% of their income, but someone who makes $100,000
>>>>> pays tax on 10% of their income.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>> Many right wingers lobby for a flat income tax as being fairer but it's
>>>> only fairer for the wealthy.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hybrid flat tax.Â* First $20,000, no tax.Â* Next $30,000 very low tax,
>>> Next $XX,000 a bit higher tax and so forth.Â* No deductions, no
>>> exemptions, no bull shit from accountants and lawyers.
>>
>>
>> Come up here and run for prime minister. You will have my vote.
>
> Are you saying this is a new idea? You North Americans need to get out
> more.
>

Hell, we still haven't gotten rid of trump. How would a smarmy
dutch buttsniffer help?

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On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 5:23:29 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 4:50:48 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> >
> > No state income tax in Tennessee either. But we've got a sales tax that
> > will make your hair stand on end.
>
> 7% at the state level. Michigan's is 6%. I don't think any local jurisdictions impose
> a sales tax here.
>
> We don't tax food (except prepared food). Tennessee taxes it at 5%.
>
But each county can add an additional tax to that base 5%. Depending on what is
is you are purchasing, the sales tax is between 9.25 and 9.75%.
>
> Our income tax is 4.25%.
>
> Tennessee's method is regressive, hitting the poor more severely.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
No tax on Social Security or pension funds here, it evens out. Y'all have a low local
sales tax and make up for with a state income tax. I had a friend who lived in
Pennsylvania and they had no tax on clothes, I can't remember if they had a sales
tax on food or not. But they have a state income tax and have to pay for a state
inspection on vehicles.

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On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 9:17:34 AM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> Taxing groceries (it's 4% in Tennessee) is ridiculous. In Texas
> they pay 7% + about 1.25% local/county sales tax. But no tax on
> groceries except for some junk food (soda and juices under 50%
> juice). And we still have no State income tax. The shortfall is
> made up property taxes and hotel tax. Which is more fair, IMO.
>
> -sw
>
See my reply to Cindy.

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On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 18:37:22 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>No tax on Social Security or pension funds here, it evens out. Y'all have a low local
>sales tax and make up for with a state income tax. I had a friend who lived in
>Pennsylvania and they had no tax on clothes, I can't remember if they had a sales
>tax on food or not. But they have a state income tax and have to pay for a state
>inspection on vehicles.

That's good, otherwise you get people driving around with a gun, but
without brakes.

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On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 8:44:26 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>
> That's good, otherwise you get people driving around with a gun, but
> without brakes.
>
They probably do that anyway.

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On 12/3/2020 7:12 PM, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Dec 3, , Ed Pawlowski wrote
> (in article >):
>
>> Hybrid flat tax. First $20,000, no tax. Next $30,000 very low tax,
>> Next $XX,000 a bit higher tax and so forth. No deductions, no
>> exemptions, no bull shit from accountants and lawyers.
>
> Sorry Ed, but the accountant and lawyer lobby won´t stand for that, and
> lawyers control Congress. Too many of them become President.
>
>
Sadly, that is true. Simplified and fair will never make it.

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Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 18:37:22 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
>> No tax on Social Security or pension funds here, it evens out. Y'all have a low local
>> sales tax and make up for with a state income tax. I had a friend who lived in
>> Pennsylvania and they had no tax on clothes, I can't remember if they had a sales
>> tax on food or not. But they have a state income tax and have to pay for a state
>> inspection on vehicles.
>
> That's good, otherwise you get people driving around with a gun, but
> without brakes.
>

But there's also an extremely high ass sniffing tax. You couldn't
afford to live there Gruce.

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On Thu, 03 Dec 2020 18:42:35 -0600, Hank Rogers wrote:

> If the last 150 years of history means anything,
> Canadians would still whine.

Hank! You went and triggered me to post from my failed e-book:

"But I'm Canadian", he whined.

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On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 4:44:26 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 18:37:22 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >No tax on Social Security or pension funds here, it evens out. Y'all have a low local
> >sales tax and make up for with a state income tax. I had a friend who lived in
> >Pennsylvania and they had no tax on clothes, I can't remember if they had a sales
> >tax on food or not. But they have a state income tax and have to pay for a state
> >inspection on vehicles.
> That's good, otherwise you get people driving around with a gun, but
> without brakes.
I once rode along with a co-worker to the parts store to buy some tubing for a brake line. He was a young kid that had a vintage Jeep. The guys at the shop called him "surfer boy." The brake line was for the Jeep, which we were in. That thing was geared so low that having no brakes wasn't that much of a problem. That was a memorable ride.

My boss had an early 70's souped up Toyota Celica. He took me for a ride in it one time. I think he was trying to impress/scare me. Mostly, I thought he spent too much money fixing it up. The guys at the shop called his car "Jap-mobile." I had an RX2 coupe at the time. My guess is that I could have beaten his jap-mobile with my jap-mobile easily in a drag race.

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On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 19:12:44 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 8:44:26 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> That's good, otherwise you get people driving around with a gun, but
>> without brakes.
>>
>They probably do that anyway.

Don't you have any law enforcement?

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On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 10:51:15 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 19:12:44 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 8:44:26 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> That's good, otherwise you get people driving around with a gun, but
> >> without brakes.
> >>
> >They probably do that anyway.
>
> Don't you have any law enforcement?
>
Of course, but unless you have a reason to stop a car, you don't know what
they're toting around. We have laws against what is called illegal search and seizure.

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On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 22:28:24 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 10:51:15 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 19:12:44 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 8:44:26 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>> >>
>> >> That's good, otherwise you get people driving around with a gun, but
>> >> without brakes.
>> >>
>> >They probably do that anyway.
>>
>> Don't you have any law enforcement?
>>
>Of course, but unless you have a reason to stop a car, you don't know what
>they're toting around. We have laws against what is called illegal search and seizure.

Here they scan your license plate and if you're not registered, it
shows up on their system and your ass is grass.

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On 2020 Dec 3, , dsi1 wrote
(in >):

> As it goes, it all depends.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/rqRiU1baFUiGwoT9A

Now that looks like a walnut, as opposed to pecan pie filling with little
marshmallows on a pizza crust. If I´m right, what´s not to like. If I´m
wrong, Ewwww!

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On Fri, 04 Dec 2020 00:21:09 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Dec 3, , dsi1 wrote
>(in >):
>
>> As it goes, it all depends.
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/rqRiU1baFUiGwoT9A
>
>Now that looks like a walnut, as opposed to pecan pie filling with little
>marshmallows on a pizza crust. If I´m right, what´s not to like. If I´m
>wrong, Ewwww!

If all y'all put marshmallows on pizzas, I consider that proof that
American civilisation is coming to an end (before it has begun).

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On 2020 Dec 3, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 19:12:44 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote
> They probably do that anyway.

> Don't you have any law enforcement?

We are transitioning into a lawless society. BLM and Antifa are pushing dim
minds toward anarchy while screeching, look over there at the straw man,
Qanon. Keep up!

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On Fri, 04 Dec 2020 01:14:24 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Dec 3, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 19:12:44 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote
>> They probably do that anyway.
>
>> Don't you have any law enforcement?
>
>We are transitioning into a lawless society. BLM and Antifa are pushing dim
>minds toward anarchy while screeching, look over there at the straw man,
>Qanon. Keep up!

BLM and Antifa criminals should be locked up just as much as gun
toting "covid is a hoax" criminals. If you ask me.

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On 2020 Dec 4, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> If all y'all put marshmallows on pizzas, I consider that proof that
> American civilisation is coming to an end (before it has begun).

You can put damned near anything on a flatbread and make it a meal. I
wouldn´t be opposed to jelly, cole slaw, pumpkin pie filling, barbecued
pork, cream cheese, tuna or smoked oysters as a topping. Anything you would
like as a sandwich works for a flatbread. Of things that I like that way,
I´d draw the line at...?
Of course, I wouldn´t call it a pizza on rfc, but what would I call
it?
Let´s call it a leoza. If everyone here get´s busy with their own ideas,
we can make the leoza famous!

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On Fri, 04 Dec 2020 02:17:13 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Dec 4, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> If all y'all put marshmallows on pizzas, I consider that proof that
>> American civilisation is coming to an end (before it has begun).
>
>You can put damned near anything on a flatbread and make it a meal. I
>wouldn´t be opposed to jelly, cole slaw, pumpkin pie filling, barbecued
>pork, cream cheese, tuna or smoked oysters as a topping.

All those things aren't nearly as bizarre as marshmallows.

>Anything you would like as a sandwich works for a flatbread.

I agree, but how can that include marshmallows?

>Of things that I like that way,
>I´d draw the line at...?
>Of course, I wouldn´t call it a pizza on rfc, but what would I call
>it?
>Let´s call it a leoza. If everyone here get´s busy with their own ideas,
>we can make the leoza famous!

But there's only one original leoza recipe:
-pizza crust
-tomato sauce
-marshmallows

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On 2020 Dec 4, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> But there's only one original leoza recipe:
> -pizza crust
> -tomato sauce
> -marshmallows

Give `er a shot and get back to me. If you can eat it with a smile, we'll
call it leoza #1 with all due respect to dsi1 who started this mess. dsi1za
sounds like a program called from the command line.

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On Fri, 04 Dec 2020 02:45:14 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Dec 4, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> But there's only one original leoza recipe:
>> -pizza crust
>> -tomato sauce
>> -marshmallows
>
>Give `er a shot and get back to me. If you can eat it with a smile, we'll
>call it leoza #1 with all due respect to dsi1 who started this mess. dsi1za
>sounds like a program called from the command line.

Are those melted marshmallows in his picture? Is Hawaii being
culturally invaded by yet another foreign power?

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On 2020 Dec 4, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> Are those melted marshmallows in his picture? Is Hawaii being
> culturally invaded by yet another foreign power?

I don´t know. I only speculated. He´s absent tonight.

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On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 7:37:17 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2020-12-03 12:55 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
> > > On Wed, 02 Dec 2020 18:55:16 -0600, cshenk wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sqwertz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 15:21:50 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You both are crazy if you think sauce is more important than
> > > > > crust. The most common sauce is simply pure crushed tomatoes.
> > > > > The crust, OTOH, takes a lot to get right. That's why so places
> > > > > invest in fancy ovens - not sauce.
> > > > >
> > > > > And most places don't use full fat motz, it's almost always part
> > > > > skim.
> > > >
> > > > Steve, sorry but it really is in the sauce though the crust isn't
> > > > ignorable. Most commercial places dummy down the sauce now and
> > > > add sugar.
> > >
> > > Sorry, Carol and Bryan, but it's the crust. In a poll of 3000+
> > > foodies, almost twice as many people (over 54%) said it was the
> > > crust, followed by 29% the sauce.
> >
> > Count me among those who are most concerned about the crust. The
> > sauce is just a condiment. The toppings are number two. Most
> > pizzerias are cheap with the toppings, which they charge a heck of a
> > lot for. We have been making pizzas regularly for the last few
> > months and I add lots of green pepper, red pepper, red onion,
> > mushrooms, and a bit of hot pepper and sliced fresh tomato. You can
> > barely see the sauce. If I were t add pepperoni it would be sliced
> > thin but pretty well cover the pizza, unlike the chain outlets where
> > you get one or two pieces of pepperoni per slice.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> https://slice.seriouseats.com/2013/1...-toppings.html
> > >
> > >I win again! <snork> Y'all are free to try and dig up your own
> > > surveys or create your own.
> > >
> > >
> > 8.7% of facts posted on the internet are fabricated by the poster.
>
> What's your favorite Dough recipe you use?
>
> I'm partial to this one:
>
> 1.5lb dough
>
> 1 c water
> 4 ts olive oil
> 2 3/4 c flour
> 1/4 c cornmeal
> 3/4 ts salt
> 1 ts yeast
> 3-4 ts various spices (matched to the pizza)
>
> I add that all into the machine and put it in dough mode then when out,
> shape to the pan (or pans, might make 2 smaller ones), rolling to thick
> or thick at the mood of the time. Generally 2 thin or 1 thick there.
> Roll them out a bit bigger and you can tuck bits of cheese and
> seasonings along that then fold over and crimp down a bit with fingers
> or fork for a nice crust edge.

Sorry. The cornmeal is a fail for me. Too gritty. I never use cornmeal in
anything.

Here's the recipe I use:

8 ounces water
1/2 teaspoon instant yeast
1-2 tablespoons extra-virgin olive oil
12.16 ounces flour
1 teaspoon salt

All ounces are by weight. Obviously 12.16 is a misguided conversion
from grams, and my kitchen scale doesn't have that much precision
anyway. I give it 12.1 or 12.2, wherever it happens to fall.

Mix and knead by hand. Ferment for 2 hours at room temperature,
divide into two balls, then 24 hours in the refrigerator. Shape as
desired.

Cindy Hamilton

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On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 3:26:46 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Dec 2020 00:21:09 -0800, Leo >
> wrote:
> >On 2020 Dec 3, , dsi1 wrote
> >(in >):
> >
> >> As it goes, it all depends.
> >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/rqRiU1baFUiGwoT9A
> >
> >Now that looks like a walnut, as opposed to pecan pie filling with little
> >marshmallows on a pizza crust. If I´m right, what´s not to like. If I´m
> >wrong, Ewwww!
> If all y'all put marshmallows on pizzas, I consider that proof that
> American civilisation is coming to an end (before it has begun).

It's a dessert, dingleberry.

A pizza crust topped with sweet things and none of the usual pizza toppings..

There's a bakery here that makes danishes that look like pizzas. They're
pretty good.

Cindy Hamilton

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On 12/4/2020 3:26 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Dec 2020 00:21:09 -0800, Leo >
> wrote:
>
>> On 2020 Dec 3, , dsi1 wrote
>> (in >):
>>
>>> As it goes, it all depends.
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/rqRiU1baFUiGwoT9A
>>
>> Now that looks like a walnut, as opposed to pecan pie filling with little
>> marshmallows on a pizza crust. If I´m right, what´s not to like. If I´m
>> wrong, Ewwww!
>
> If all y'all put marshmallows on pizzas, I consider that proof that
> American civilisation is coming to an end (before it has begun).

I agree. That's pretty creepy. :-D

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On 12/4/2020 2:05 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 22:28:24 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 10:51:15 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 19:12:44 -0800 (PST), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 8:44:26 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> That's good, otherwise you get people driving around with a gun, but
>>>>> without brakes.
>>>>>
>>>> They probably do that anyway.
>>>
>>> Don't you have any law enforcement?
>>>
>> Of course, but unless you have a reason to stop a car, you don't know what
>> they're toting around. We have laws against what is called illegal search and seizure.
>
> Here they scan your license plate and if you're not registered, it
> shows up on their system and your ass is grass.
>
We have and use that too. If the car is registered and insured, you
have to have a reason to stop it. Traffic violation. light out, window
tint too dark, etc. Once the stop is made, anything visible is fair game.

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On 2020-12-04 9:48 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 12/4/2020 2:05 AM, Bruce wrote:

>>> Of course, but unless you have a reason to stop a car, you don't know
>>> what
>>> they're toting around.Â* We have laws against what is called illegal
>>> search and seizure.
>>
>> Here they scan your license plate and if you're not registered, it
>> shows up on their system and your ass is grass.
>>
> We have and use that too.Â* If the car is registered and insured, you
> have to have a reason to stop it.Â* Traffic violation. light out, window
> tint too dark, etc.Â* Once the stop is made, anything visible is fair game.


I had a mobile terminal in my vehicle at work that allowed me to check
license plates while moving. Just before I retired we all ended up
getting laptops with mobile terminals. Punch in a license plate and it
would would display all the registration information, name of owner,
address, make, model and year of vehicle. It would show a red flag if
the owner was unlicensed or under suspension. There would also be flags
for various driver issues, like a history of violence, criminal charges
etc. A click on the driver information would take you to their driving
records, like address changes, upgrades, downgrades, previous
suspensions, and another click would take you to their conviction records.

That was a pretty impressive system when I retired 16 1/2 years ago. I
imagine that it has got even better since then. Some police cars are
equipped with plate scanners that automatically read plates and record
information.

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On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 09:48:07 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 12/4/2020 2:05 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 22:28:24 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 10:51:15 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 19:12:44 -0800 (PST), "
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 8:44:26 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's good, otherwise you get people driving around with a gun, but
>>>>>> without brakes.
>>>>>>
>>>>> They probably do that anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Don't you have any law enforcement?
>>>>
>>> Of course, but unless you have a reason to stop a car, you don't know what
>>> they're toting around. We have laws against what is called illegal search and seizure.
>>
>> Here they scan your license plate and if you're not registered, it
>> shows up on their system and your ass is grass.
>>
>We have and use that too. If the car is registered and insured, you
>have to have a reason to stop it. Traffic violation. light out, window
>tint too dark, etc. Once the stop is made, anything visible is fair game.

I get stopped all the time, cops think I'm too young to be driving. I
have such a thick head of hair that from the rear they think I'm much
younger. Then I tell them that my 1990 Landcruiser is older than
them, I'm usually correct.