On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 7:29:40 AM UTC-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 12:08:42 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> > On 10/18/2020 12:42 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2020-10-18 12:22 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > > how would you know, since you never watched?
> > >>>
> > >> I've never watched it either, but I vaguely get your references, Gary.
> > >> To me, it's like watching Sean Penn in whatever that other stoner
> > >> movie was. Not my cup of tea.
> > >>
> > >> I have no idea why Bryan is bragging about smoking pot before going to
> > >> class.
> > >
> > > It is a form of virtue signalling. Back in his school days he thought it
> > > was cool to go to class stoned, so now he is advertising that he was
> > > cool back then... in his own mind.
> > >
> > Call it what you want, apparently lots of us were "cool" back in the
> > day. We just didn't get stoned before going to class. I, for one, paid
> > attention in class and got very good grades. I was serious about
> > school; fun time was reserved for after school let out.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXIw1BvfEQ8
>
> Life greatly improved after I tested out of high school.
> >
> > Jill
>
> --Bryan

Things generally improve after the underachiever leaves high school. I don't use "underachiever" in a pejorative way. It simply means that the student is not performing up to the levels they're capable of. Mostly, it means that the student (usually male) is bored out of their skulls. These students need all the diversions they can get to survive!

On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 1:59:18 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 7:29:40 AM UTC-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 12:08:42 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> > > On 10/18/2020 12:42 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > On 2020-10-18 12:22 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > > > how would you know, since you never watched?
> > > >>>
> > > >> I've never watched it either, but I vaguely get your references, Gary.
> > > >> To me, it's like watching Sean Penn in whatever that other stoner
> > > >> movie was. Not my cup of tea.
> > > >>
> > > >> I have no idea why Bryan is bragging about smoking pot before going to
> > > >> class.
> > > >
> > > > It is a form of virtue signalling. Back in his school days he thought it
> > > > was cool to go to class stoned, so now he is advertising that he was
> > > > cool back then... in his own mind.
> > > >
> > > Call it what you want, apparently lots of us were "cool" back in the
> > > day. We just didn't get stoned before going to class. I, for one, paid
> > > attention in class and got very good grades. I was serious about
> > > school; fun time was reserved for after school let out.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXIw1BvfEQ8
> >
> > Life greatly improved after I tested out of high school.
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> > --Bryan
> Things generally improve after the underachiever leaves high school. I don't use "underachiever" in a pejorative way. It simply means that the student is not performing up to the levels they're capable of. Mostly, it means that the student (usually male) is bored out of their skulls. These students need all the diversions they can get to survive!

In high school, I got As and Fs. Six years after I tested out, I started
community college where I graduated with perfect grades.

--Bryan

On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 9:46:21 AM UTC-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 1:59:18 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 7:29:40 AM UTC-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > > On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 12:08:42 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> > > > On 10/18/2020 12:42 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > > On 2020-10-18 12:22 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > > > > how would you know, since you never watched?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> I've never watched it either, but I vaguely get your references, Gary.
> > > > >> To me, it's like watching Sean Penn in whatever that other stoner
> > > > >> movie was. Not my cup of tea.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I have no idea why Bryan is bragging about smoking pot before going to
> > > > >> class.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is a form of virtue signalling. Back in his school days he thought it
> > > > > was cool to go to class stoned, so now he is advertising that he was
> > > > > cool back then... in his own mind.
> > > > >
> > > > Call it what you want, apparently lots of us were "cool" back in the
> > > > day. We just didn't get stoned before going to class. I, for one, paid
> > > > attention in class and got very good grades. I was serious about
> > > > school; fun time was reserved for after school let out.
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXIw1BvfEQ8
> > >
> > > Life greatly improved after I tested out of high school.
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > >
> > > --Bryan
> > Things generally improve after the underachiever leaves high school. I don't use "underachiever" in a pejorative way. It simply means that the student is not performing up to the levels they're capable of. Mostly, it means that the student (usually male) is bored out of their skulls. These students need all the diversions they can get to survive!
>
> In high school, I got As and Fs. Six years after I tested out, I started
> community college where I graduated with perfect grades.
>
> --Bryan

Your experience is not an uncommon one.

On 2020-10-18 3:46 p.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:

>> Things generally improve after the underachiever leaves high school. I don't use "underachiever" in a pejorative way. It simply means that the student is not performing up to the levels they're capable of. Mostly, it means that the student (usually male) is bored out of their skulls. These students need all the diversions they can get to survive!
>
> In high school, I got As and Fs. Six years after I tested out, I started
> community college where I graduated with perfect grades.
>

I was an underachiever in elementary and high school. I was always the
biggest kid in my class but was also the youngest. I finally buckled
down in my last year of high school, got admitted into university and
excelled there. My son was a late bloomer too. He struggled through
elementary and high school. When he finished high school he went to
Africa to work for a year. He came back and got into university as a
mature student and got his degree. He had been working part time in a
bar and slid over from waiting and bar tending to managing a brew pub.
Then he got a great job with government.

On 19:59 18 Oct 2020, dsi1 said:

> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 7:29:40 AM UTC-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 12:08:42 PM UTC-5,
>> wro
> te:
>> > On 10/18/2020 12:42 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> > > On 2020-10-18 12:22 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> > > how would you know, since you never watched?
>> > >>>
>> > >> I've never watched it either, but I vaguely get your references,
>> > >> Gar
> y.
>> > >> To me, it's like watching Sean Penn in whatever that other stoner
>> > >> movie was. Not my cup of tea.
>> > >>
>> > >> I have no idea why Bryan is bragging about smoking pot before
>> > >> going
> to
>> > >> class.
>> > >
>> > > It is a form of virtue signalling. Back in his school days he
>> > > thought
> it
>> > > was cool to go to class stoned, so now he is advertising that he
>> > > was
>
>> > > cool back then... in his own mind.
>> > >
>> > Call it what you want, apparently lots of us were "cool" back in the
>> > day. We just didn't get stoned before going to class. I, for one,
>> > paid
>
>> > attention in class and got very good grades. I was serious about
>> > school; fun time was reserved for after school let out.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXIw1BvfEQ8
>>
>> Life greatly improved after I tested out of high school.
>> >
>> > Jill
>>
>> --Bryan
>
> Things generally improve after the underachiever leaves high school. I
> don't use "underachiever" in a pejorative way. It simply means that the
> student is not performing up to the levels they're capable of. Mostly,
> it means that the student (usually male) is bored out of their skulls.

Or takes drugs.

> These students need all the diversions they can get to survive!

More drugs maybe?

On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 9:47:30 AM UTC-10, Pamela wrote:
> On 19:59 18 Oct 2020, dsi1 said:
>
> > On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 7:29:40 AM UTC-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 12:08:42 PM UTC-5,
> >> wro
> > te:
> >> > On 10/18/2020 12:42 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> > > On 2020-10-18 12:22 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> >> > > how would you know, since you never watched?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >> I've never watched it either, but I vaguely get your references,
> >> > >> Gar
> > y.
> >> > >> To me, it's like watching Sean Penn in whatever that other stoner
> >> > >> movie was. Not my cup of tea.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I have no idea why Bryan is bragging about smoking pot before
> >> > >> going
> > to
> >> > >> class.
> >> > >
> >> > > It is a form of virtue signalling. Back in his school days he
> >> > > thought
> > it
> >> > > was cool to go to class stoned, so now he is advertising that he
> >> > > was
> >
> >> > > cool back then... in his own mind.
> >> > >
> >> > Call it what you want, apparently lots of us were "cool" back in the
> >> > day. We just didn't get stoned before going to class. I, for one,
> >> > paid
> >
> >> > attention in class and got very good grades. I was serious about
> >> > school; fun time was reserved for after school let out.
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXIw1BvfEQ8
> >>
> >> Life greatly improved after I tested out of high school.
> >> >
> >> > Jill
> >>
> >> --Bryan
> >
> > Things generally improve after the underachiever leaves high school. I
> > don't use "underachiever" in a pejorative way. It simply means that the
> > student is not performing up to the levels they're capable of. Mostly,
> > it means that the student (usually male) is bored out of their skulls.
>
> Or takes drugs.
>
> > These students need all the diversions they can get to survive!
>
> More drugs maybe?

I don't know. A diversion is a diversion is a diversion.

On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:47:23 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 19:59 18 Oct 2020, dsi1 said:
>
>> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 7:29:40 AM UTC-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 12:08:42 PM UTC-5,
>>> wro
>> te:
>>> > On 10/18/2020 12:42 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> > > On 2020-10-18 12:22 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> > > how would you know, since you never watched?
>>> > >>>
>>> > >> I've never watched it either, but I vaguely get your references,
>>> > >> Gar
>> y.
>>> > >> To me, it's like watching Sean Penn in whatever that other stoner
>>> > >> movie was. Not my cup of tea.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I have no idea why Bryan is bragging about smoking pot before
>>> > >> going
>> to
>>> > >> class.
>>> > >
>>> > > It is a form of virtue signalling. Back in his school days he
>>> > > thought
>> it
>>> > > was cool to go to class stoned, so now he is advertising that he
>>> > > was
>>
>>> > > cool back then... in his own mind.
>>> > >
>>> > Call it what you want, apparently lots of us were "cool" back in the
>>> > day. We just didn't get stoned before going to class. I, for one,
>>> > paid
>>
>>> > attention in class and got very good grades. I was serious about
>>> > school; fun time was reserved for after school let out.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXIw1BvfEQ8
>>>
>>> Life greatly improved after I tested out of high school.
>>> >
>>> > Jill
>>>
>>> --Bryan
>>
>> Things generally improve after the underachiever leaves high school. I
>> don't use "underachiever" in a pejorative way. It simply means that the
>> student is not performing up to the levels they're capable of. Mostly,
>> it means that the student (usually male) is bored out of their skulls.
>
>Or takes drugs.
>
>> These students need all the diversions they can get to survive!
>
>More drugs maybe?

Did you lose a family member or a friend to drugs, maybe? You're
always going on about them and how bad they are. Like a broken record.
Or were you a bad addict yourself and now you're preaching?

On 21:05 18 Oct 2020, Bruce said:

> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:47:23 +0100, Pamela >
> wrote:
>
>>On 19:59 18 Oct 2020, dsi1 said:
>>
>>> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 7:29:40 AM UTC-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 12:08:42 PM UTC-5,
>>>> wro
>>> te:
>>>> > On 10/18/2020 12:42 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> > > On 2020-10-18 12:22 p.m., jmcquown wrote: how would you know,
>>>> > > since you never watched?
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >> I've never watched it either, but I vaguely get your references,
>>>> > >> Gar
>>> y.
>>>> > >> To me, it's like watching Sean Penn in whatever that other
>>>> > >> stoner movie was. Not my cup of tea.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> I have no idea why Bryan is bragging about smoking pot before
>>>> > >> going
>>> to
>>>> > >> class.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > It is a form of virtue signalling. Back in his school days he
>>>> > > thought
>>> it
>>>> > > was cool to go to class stoned, so now he is advertising that he
>>>> > > was
>>>
>>>> > > cool back then... in his own mind.
>>>> > >
>>>> > Call it what you want, apparently lots of us were "cool" back in
>>>> > the day. We just didn't get stoned before going to class. I, for
>>>> > one, paid
>>>
>>>> > attention in class and got very good grades. I was serious about
>>>> > school; fun time was reserved for after school let out.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXIw1BvfEQ8
>>>>
>>>> Life greatly improved after I tested out of high school.
>>>> >
>>>> > Jill
>>>>
>>>> --Bryan
>>>
>>> Things generally improve after the underachiever leaves high school. I
>>> don't use "underachiever" in a pejorative way. It simply means that
>>> the student is not performing up to the levels they're capable of.
>>> Mostly, it means that the student (usually male) is bored out of their
>>> skulls.
>>
>>Or takes drugs.
>>
>>> These students need all the diversions they can get to survive!
>>
>>More drugs maybe?
>
> Did you lose a family member or a friend to drugs, maybe? You're always
> going on about them and how bad they are. Like a broken record. Or were
> you a bad addict yourself and now you're preaching?

Drug users often think the whole world must be taking or has taken drugs.
Perhaps it's their sliding set of norms from the lifestyles they drifted
into. However, they overlook the existence of the very large proportion
of the population who have never taken drugs. You appear to fall into the
former category, I fall into the latter.

I grew up in an environment in which my peers took a lot of drugs. Some
are now dead from their habits, including my best friend whom we buried a
few years ago. Others live on the margins of society as wasted hollow
shells of what they could have been. Only one or two are more or less
coping with years of continued drug use and they tend to be dealers.

Kids, the drugs don't work. If you believe they do then that's probably
the drugs making you unable to see yourself objectively.

As it happens I don't go around trying to stop anyone taking drugs. It's
their choice. I often observe their addled quasi-psychiatric mental state
and unbalanced mentation. Its sad.

On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:43:17 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 21:05 18 Oct 2020, Bruce said:
>
>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:47:23 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>More drugs maybe?
>>
>> Did you lose a family member or a friend to drugs, maybe? You're always
>> going on about them and how bad they are. Like a broken record. Or were
>> you a bad addict yourself and now you're preaching?
>
>Drug users often think the whole world must be taking or has taken drugs.
>Perhaps it's their sliding set of norms from the lifestyles they drifted
>into. However, they overlook the existence of the very large proportion
>of the population who have never taken drugs. You appear to fall into the
>former category, I fall into the latter.
>
>I grew up in an environment in which my peers took a lot of drugs. Some
>are now dead from their habits, including my best friend whom we buried a
>few years ago. Others live on the margins of society as wasted hollow
>shells of what they could have been. Only one or two are more or less
>coping with years of continued drug use and they tend to be dealers.
>
>Kids, the drugs don't work. If you believe they do then that's probably
>the drugs making you unable to see yourself objectively.
>
>As it happens I don't go around trying to stop anyone taking drugs. It's
>their choice. I often observe their addled quasi-psychiatric mental state
>and unbalanced mentation. Its sad.

But lots of people drink alcohol and/or smoke pot without ruining
their lives. In moderation those substances can make life more
enjoyable.

Bruce wrote:
>
> But lots of people drink alcohol and/or smoke pot without ruining
> their lives. In moderation those substances can make life more
> enjoyable.

Especially the alcohol if you're served some bad food.

On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 21:58:45 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:43:17 +0100, Pamela >
>wrote:
>
>>On 21:05 18 Oct 2020, Bruce said:
>>
>>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:47:23 +0100, Pamela >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>More drugs maybe?
>>>
>>> Did you lose a family member or a friend to drugs, maybe? You're always
>>> going on about them and how bad they are. Like a broken record. Or were
>>> you a bad addict yourself and now you're preaching?
>>
>>Drug users often think the whole world must be taking or has taken drugs.
>>Perhaps it's their sliding set of norms from the lifestyles they drifted
>>into. However, they overlook the existence of the very large proportion
>>of the population who have never taken drugs. You appear to fall into the
>>former category, I fall into the latter.
>>
>>I grew up in an environment in which my peers took a lot of drugs. Some
>>are now dead from their habits, including my best friend whom we buried a
>>few years ago. Others live on the margins of society as wasted hollow
>>shells of what they could have been. Only one or two are more or less
>>coping with years of continued drug use and they tend to be dealers.
>>
>>Kids, the drugs don't work. If you believe they do then that's probably
>>the drugs making you unable to see yourself objectively.
>>
>>As it happens I don't go around trying to stop anyone taking drugs. It's
>>their choice. I often observe their addled quasi-psychiatric mental state
>>and unbalanced mentation. Its sad.
>
>But lots of people drink alcohol and/or smoke pot without ruining
>their lives. In moderation those substances can make life more
>enjoyable.

Most people do not do alcohol and pot in moderation, except when they
first begin for maybe a month... there are a lot of people in drug
rehab and AA who never get well. Most everyone who does pot and/or
alcohol says they only do a little. I lost my SIL to alcohol, pot,
and OTC drugs and this was some 40 years ago. She had everything to
live for, was a beautiful professional dancer, seemed happily married,
with two kids. I found out years afterwards from her mother that she
wasn't happily married, her husband would beat her but she wouldn't
leave him. She continued to drug herself until one day she just
overdid it and never woke up. I lost quite a few friends at a young
age to booze and drugs. The smartest thing I ever did at that time,
even before HS graduation, was to enlist in the Navy, was also one of
the most enjoyable periods in my life. The next day after HS
graduation I went to bootcamp in Great Lakes Ill. I didn't want to
end up in the Army, I was not into dirt and foxholes, shipboard living
is extremely clean, cleaner than hospitals, especially the gally.
Hardly anyone ever caught a cold, germs don't live well at sea... and
it's nearly impossible to get drugs and booze at sea.

On 10/19/2020 10:09 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 21:58:45 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:43:17 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 21:05 18 Oct 2020, Bruce said:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:47:23 +0100, Pamela >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> More drugs maybe?
>>>>
>>>> Did you lose a family member or a friend to drugs, maybe? You're always
>>>> going on about them and how bad they are. Like a broken record. Or were
>>>> you a bad addict yourself and now you're preaching?
>>>
>>> Drug users often think the whole world must be taking or has taken drugs.
>>> Perhaps it's their sliding set of norms from the lifestyles they drifted
>>> into. However, they overlook the existence of the very large proportion
>>> of the population who have never taken drugs. You appear to fall into the
>>> former category, I fall into the latter.
>>>
>>> I grew up in an environment in which my peers took a lot of drugs. Some
>>> are now dead from their habits, including my best friend whom we buried a
>>> few years ago. Others live on the margins of society as wasted hollow
>>> shells of what they could have been. Only one or two are more or less
>>> coping with years of continued drug use and they tend to be dealers.
>>>
>>> Kids, the drugs don't work. If you believe they do then that's probably
>>> the drugs making you unable to see yourself objectively.
>>>
>>> As it happens I don't go around trying to stop anyone taking drugs. It's
>>> their choice. I often observe their addled quasi-psychiatric mental state
>>> and unbalanced mentation. Its sad.
>>
>> But lots of people drink alcohol and/or smoke pot without ruining
>> their lives. In moderation those substances can make life more
>> enjoyable.
>
> Most people do not do alcohol and pot in moderation, except when they
> first begin for maybe a month... there are a lot of people in drug
> rehab and AA who never get well. Most everyone who does pot and/or
> alcohol says they only do a little. I lost my SIL to alcohol, pot,
> and OTC drugs and this was some 40 years ago. She had everything to
> live for, was a beautiful professional dancer, seemed happily married,
> with two kids. I found out years afterwards from her mother that she
> wasn't happily married, her husband would beat her but she wouldn't
> leave him. She continued to drug herself until one day she just
> overdid it and never woke up.

That's sad, but many abused women don't tell anyone. Either they are
ashamed to admit "Mr. Perfect" wasn't perfect or they are afraid if they
report it and have him arrested he'll do much worse the minute he gets
out of jail; likely beat her to death.

> I lost quite a few friends at a young
> age to booze and drugs. The smartest thing I ever did at that time,
> even before HS graduation, was to enlist in the Navy, was also one of
> the most enjoyable periods in my life. The next day after HS
> graduation I went to bootcamp in Great Lakes Ill. I didn't want to
> end up in the Army, I was not into dirt and foxholes, shipboard living
> is extremely clean, cleaner than hospitals, especially the gally.
> Hardly anyone ever caught a cold, germs don't live well at sea... and
> it's nearly impossible to get drugs and booze at sea.
>
If you think the military back in the day didn't supply or even
encourage booze you're sadly mistaken. My father enlisted at age 17 at
the outset of WWII and oh, the booze did flow freely at the Enlisted
Men's Club. And later at the Officer's Club. Even when he was in
Vietnam there was always booze. I doubt he ever smoked pot or took
illegal drugs but that doesn't matter. The military culture back in the
day always had the image of a "hard fisted drinking man".

Jill

On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 10:09:15 -0400, Sheldon Martin >
wrote:


>Most people do not do alcohol and pot in moderation, except when they
>first begin for maybe a month...

LOL. You STILL manage to make me laugh with your ridiculous
pronouncements,.

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 21:58:45 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:43:17 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 21:05 18 Oct 2020, Bruce said:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:47:23 +0100, Pamela >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> More drugs maybe?
>>>>
>>>> Did you lose a family member or a friend to drugs, maybe? You're always
>>>> going on about them and how bad they are. Like a broken record. Or were
>>>> you a bad addict yourself and now you're preaching?
>>>
>>> Drug users often think the whole world must be taking or has taken drugs.
>>> Perhaps it's their sliding set of norms from the lifestyles they drifted
>>> into. However, they overlook the existence of the very large proportion
>>> of the population who have never taken drugs. You appear to fall into the
>>> former category, I fall into the latter.
>>>
>>> I grew up in an environment in which my peers took a lot of drugs. Some
>>> are now dead from their habits, including my best friend whom we buried a
>>> few years ago. Others live on the margins of society as wasted hollow
>>> shells of what they could have been. Only one or two are more or less
>>> coping with years of continued drug use and they tend to be dealers.
>>>
>>> Kids, the drugs don't work. If you believe they do then that's probably
>>> the drugs making you unable to see yourself objectively.
>>>
>>> As it happens I don't go around trying to stop anyone taking drugs. It's
>>> their choice. I often observe their addled quasi-psychiatric mental state
>>> and unbalanced mentation. Its sad.
>>
>> But lots of people drink alcohol and/or smoke pot without ruining
>> their lives. In moderation those substances can make life more
>> enjoyable.
>
> Most people do not do alcohol and pot in moderation, except when they
> first begin for maybe a month... there are a lot of people in drug
> rehab and AA who never get well. Most everyone who does pot and/or
> alcohol says they only do a little. I lost my SIL to alcohol, pot,
> and OTC drugs and this was some 40 years ago. She had everything to
> live for, was a beautiful professional dancer, seemed happily married,
> with two kids. I found out years afterwards from her mother that she
> wasn't happily married, her husband would beat her but she wouldn't
> leave him. She continued to drug herself until one day she just
> overdid it and never woke up. I lost quite a few friends at a young
> age to booze and drugs. The smartest thing I ever did at that time,
> even before HS graduation, was to enlist in the Navy, was also one of
> the most enjoyable periods in my life. The next day after HS
> graduation I went to bootcamp in Great Lakes Ill. I didn't want to
> end up in the Army, I was not into dirt and foxholes, shipboard living
> is extremely clean, cleaner than hospitals, especially the gally.
> Hardly anyone ever caught a cold, germs don't live well at sea... and
> it's nearly impossible to get drugs and booze at sea.
>

Corona virus seems to do quite well on navy ships.

On 11:58 19 Oct 2020, Bruce said:

> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:43:17 +0100, Pamela >
> wrote:
>
>>On 21:05 18 Oct 2020, Bruce said:
>>
>>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:47:23 +0100, Pamela >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>More drugs maybe?
>>>
>>> Did you lose a family member or a friend to drugs, maybe? You're
>>> always going on about them and how bad they are. Like a broken record.
>>> Or were you a bad addict yourself and now you're preaching?
>>
>>Drug users often think the whole world must be taking or has taken
>>drugs. Perhaps it's their sliding set of norms from the lifestyles they
>>drifted into. However, they overlook the existence of the very large
>>proportion of the population who have never taken drugs. You appear to
>>fall into the former category, I fall into the latter.
>>
>>I grew up in an environment in which my peers took a lot of drugs. Some
>>are now dead from their habits, including my best friend whom we buried
>>a few years ago. Others live on the margins of society as wasted hollow
>>shells of what they could have been. Only one or two are more or less
>>coping with years of continued drug use and they tend to be dealers.
>>
>>Kids, the drugs don't work. If you believe they do then that's probably
>>the drugs making you unable to see yourself objectively.
>>
>>As it happens I don't go around trying to stop anyone taking drugs. It's
>>their choice. I often observe their addled quasi-psychiatric mental
>>state and unbalanced mentation. Its sad.
>
> But lots of people drink alcohol and/or smoke pot without ruining their
> lives. In moderation those substances can make life more enjoyable.

The fact kids take drugs at all shows they're prepared to push past
boundaries. Every addict started by dabbling.

On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 4:55:25 PM UTC-5, Pamela wrote:
> On 11:58 19 Oct 2020, Bruce said:
>
> > On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:43:17 +0100, Pamela >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On 21:05 18 Oct 2020, Bruce said:
> >>
> >>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:47:23 +0100, Pamela >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>More drugs maybe?
> >>>
> >>> Did you lose a family member or a friend to drugs, maybe? You're
> >>> always going on about them and how bad they are. Like a broken record.
> >>> Or were you a bad addict yourself and now you're preaching?
> >>
> >>Drug users often think the whole world must be taking or has taken
> >>drugs. Perhaps it's their sliding set of norms from the lifestyles they
> >>drifted into. However, they overlook the existence of the very large
> >>proportion of the population who have never taken drugs. You appear to
> >>fall into the former category, I fall into the latter.
> >>
> >>I grew up in an environment in which my peers took a lot of drugs. Some
> >>are now dead from their habits, including my best friend whom we buried
> >>a few years ago. Others live on the margins of society as wasted hollow
> >>shells of what they could have been. Only one or two are more or less
> >>coping with years of continued drug use and they tend to be dealers.
> >>
> >>Kids, the drugs don't work. If you believe they do then that's probably
> >>the drugs making you unable to see yourself objectively.
> >>
> >>As it happens I don't go around trying to stop anyone taking drugs. It's
> >>their choice. I often observe their addled quasi-psychiatric mental
> >>state and unbalanced mentation. Its sad.
> >
> > But lots of people drink alcohol and/or smoke pot without ruining their
> > lives. In moderation those substances can make life more enjoyable.
> The fact kids take drugs at all shows they're prepared to push past
> boundaries. Every addict started by dabbling.


That's right, look what happened to Johnny Rotten.

Pamela wrote :
> The fact kids take drugs at all shows they're prepared to push past
> boundaries. Every addict started by dabbling.
>
How did you get started posting as a woman, by
dabbling in cross dressing?

Jill

On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 22:55:09 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 11:58 19 Oct 2020, Bruce said:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:43:17 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 21:05 18 Oct 2020, Bruce said:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:47:23 +0100, Pamela >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>More drugs maybe?
>>>>
>>>> Did you lose a family member or a friend to drugs, maybe? You're
>>>> always going on about them and how bad they are. Like a broken record.
>>>> Or were you a bad addict yourself and now you're preaching?
>>>
>>>Drug users often think the whole world must be taking or has taken
>>>drugs. Perhaps it's their sliding set of norms from the lifestyles they
>>>drifted into. However, they overlook the existence of the very large
>>>proportion of the population who have never taken drugs. You appear to
>>>fall into the former category, I fall into the latter.
>>>
>>>I grew up in an environment in which my peers took a lot of drugs. Some
>>>are now dead from their habits, including my best friend whom we buried
>>>a few years ago. Others live on the margins of society as wasted hollow
>>>shells of what they could have been. Only one or two are more or less
>>>coping with years of continued drug use and they tend to be dealers.
>>>
>>>Kids, the drugs don't work. If you believe they do then that's probably
>>>the drugs making you unable to see yourself objectively.
>>>
>>>As it happens I don't go around trying to stop anyone taking drugs. It's
>>>their choice. I often observe their addled quasi-psychiatric mental
>>>state and unbalanced mentation. Its sad.
>>
>> But lots of people drink alcohol and/or smoke pot without ruining their
>> lives. In moderation those substances can make life more enjoyable.
>
>The fact kids take drugs at all shows they're prepared to push past
>boundaries. Every addict started by dabbling.

And most people who dabble, never become addicts. You sound
traumatised.

On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:43:17 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 21:05 18 Oct 2020, Bruce said:
>
>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:47:23 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 19:59 18 Oct 2020, dsi1 said:
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 7:29:40 AM UTC-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 12:08:42 PM UTC-5,
>>>>> wro
>>>> te:
>>>>> > On 10/18/2020 12:42 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> > > On 2020-10-18 12:22 p.m., jmcquown wrote: how would you know,
>>>>> > > since you never watched?
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >> I've never watched it either, but I vaguely get your references,
>>>>> > >> Gar
>>>> y.
>>>>> > >> To me, it's like watching Sean Penn in whatever that other
>>>>> > >> stoner movie was. Not my cup of tea.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> I have no idea why Bryan is bragging about smoking pot before
>>>>> > >> going
>>>> to
>>>>> > >> class.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > It is a form of virtue signalling. Back in his school days he
>>>>> > > thought
>>>> it
>>>>> > > was cool to go to class stoned, so now he is advertising that he
>>>>> > > was
>>>>
>>>>> > > cool back then... in his own mind.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > Call it what you want, apparently lots of us were "cool" back in
>>>>> > the day. We just didn't get stoned before going to class. I, for
>>>>> > one, paid
>>>>
>>>>> > attention in class and got very good grades. I was serious about
>>>>> > school; fun time was reserved for after school let out.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXIw1BvfEQ8
>>>>>
>>>>> Life greatly improved after I tested out of high school.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>
>>>> Things generally improve after the underachiever leaves high school. I
>>>> don't use "underachiever" in a pejorative way. It simply means that
>>>> the student is not performing up to the levels they're capable of.
>>>> Mostly, it means that the student (usually male) is bored out of their
>>>> skulls.
>>>
>>>Or takes drugs.
>>>
>>>> These students need all the diversions they can get to survive!
>>>
>>>More drugs maybe?
>>
>> Did you lose a family member or a friend to drugs, maybe? You're always
>> going on about them and how bad they are. Like a broken record. Or were
>> you a bad addict yourself and now you're preaching?
>
>Drug users often think the whole world must be taking or has taken drugs.
>Perhaps it's their sliding set of norms from the lifestyles they drifted
>into. However, they overlook the existence of the very large proportion
>of the population who have never taken drugs. You appear to fall into the
>former category, I fall into the latter.
>
>I grew up in an environment in which my peers took a lot of drugs. Some
>are now dead from their habits, including my best friend whom we buried a
>few years ago. Others live on the margins of society as wasted hollow
>shells of what they could have been. Only one or two are more or less
>coping with years of continued drug use and they tend to be dealers.
>
>Kids, the drugs don't work. If you believe they do then that's probably
>the drugs making you unable to see yourself objectively.
>
>As it happens I don't go around trying to stop anyone taking drugs. It's
>their choice. I often observe their addled quasi-psychiatric mental state
>and unbalanced mentation. Its sad.

Sounds very much like some of the kids I grew up with, constantly on
drugs and didn't live long, my best friend died from an over dose at
18. They all started out on pot and soon moved up to illegal
narcotics.
The only drugs I take are with my doctor's Rx, and the strongest OTC
drugs I take are an occasional Tylenol, Advil, and after dinner vodka
and Spite. I take the Tylenol and Advil to help with my spinal
arthritis but my doctor knows and advised I take those, but to be
honest a double vodka helps more. Sciatica can be very painful and
there's no cure for arthritis... the best help for arhritis is to keep
moving and several doctors agree.

Sheldon Martin wrote:
>
> The only drugs I take are with my doctor's Rx, and the strongest OTC
> drugs I take are an occasional Tylenol, Advil, and after dinner vodka
> and Spite. I take the Tylenol and Advil to help with my spinal
> arthritis but my doctor knows and advised I take those, but to be
> honest a double vodka helps more.

Don't take Tylenol (acetaminophen) when you've been drinking.
It's a proven combination to damage your liver.

On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 7:59:12 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Sheldon Martin wrote:
> >
> > The only drugs I take are with my doctor's Rx, and the strongest OTC
> > drugs I take are an occasional Tylenol, Advil, and after dinner vodka
> > and Spite. I take the Tylenol and Advil to help with my spinal
> > arthritis but my doctor knows and advised I take those, but to be
> > honest a double vodka helps more.
>
> Don't take Tylenol (acetaminophen) when you've been drinking.
> It's a proven combination to damage your liver.

I have a friend who is a nurse who worked on the transplant floor of a local hospital and thanked Tylenol for all the 'business' she got! The LD50 of acetaminophen is dangerously close to the effective dose! But people think because it's OTC that it's safe! :-(

John Kuthe...

On 10/19/2020 8:59 AM, Gary wrote:
> Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>
>> The only drugs I take are with my doctor's Rx, and the strongest OTC
>> drugs I take are an occasional Tylenol, Advil, and after dinner vodka
>> and Spite. I take the Tylenol and Advil to help with my spinal
>> arthritis but my doctor knows and advised I take those, but to be
>> honest a double vodka helps more.
>
> Don't take Tylenol (acetaminophen) when you've been drinking.
> It's a proven combination to damage your liver.
>
Exactly right, Gary. Alcohol might also be contraindicated depending on
the Rx meds he takes.

Jill

On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 08:59:12 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Sheldon Martin wrote:
>>
>> The only drugs I take are with my doctor's Rx, and the strongest OTC
>> drugs I take are an occasional Tylenol, Advil, and after dinner vodka
>> and Spite. I take the Tylenol and Advil to help with my spinal
>> arthritis but my doctor knows and advised I take those, but to be
>> honest a double vodka helps more.
>
>Don't take Tylenol (acetaminophen) when you've been drinking.
>It's a proven combination to damage your liver.

Yup, says so on every bottle. I take Tylenol during the day and
switch to Advil at dinner time. Of course it matters mostly on how
much. I take less than the recommended dose of Tylenol and Advil, and
I don't drink very much Vodka... people here like to tease
because I drink the cheapest vodka, Crystal Palace... little do they
know that Crystal Palace is one of the purest vodkas. Those flavored
vodkas are flavored because otherwise they'd be undrinkable. The
company that makes Crystal Palace (Bartons) makes all kinds of booze
under different labels and charge premium prices because of the fancy
schmancy glass bottles, packaging, and multicolored metalic labels.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barton_Brands

On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 12:43:27 AM UTC-10, Pamela wrote:
> On 21:05 18 Oct 2020, Bruce said:
>
> > On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:47:23 +0100, Pamela >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On 19:59 18 Oct 2020, dsi1 said:
> >>
> >>> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 7:29:40 AM UTC-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >>>> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 12:08:42 PM UTC-5,
> >>>> wro
> >>> te:
> >>>> > On 10/18/2020 12:42 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>>> > > On 2020-10-18 12:22 p.m., jmcquown wrote: how would you know,
> >>>> > > since you never watched?
> >>>> > >>>
> >>>> > >> I've never watched it either, but I vaguely get your references,
> >>>> > >> Gar
> >>> y.
> >>>> > >> To me, it's like watching Sean Penn in whatever that other
> >>>> > >> stoner movie was. Not my cup of tea.
> >>>> > >>
> >>>> > >> I have no idea why Bryan is bragging about smoking pot before
> >>>> > >> going
> >>> to
> >>>> > >> class.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > It is a form of virtue signalling. Back in his school days he
> >>>> > > thought
> >>> it
> >>>> > > was cool to go to class stoned, so now he is advertising that he
> >>>> > > was
> >>>
> >>>> > > cool back then... in his own mind.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > Call it what you want, apparently lots of us were "cool" back in
> >>>> > the day. We just didn't get stoned before going to class. I, for
> >>>> > one, paid
> >>>
> >>>> > attention in class and got very good grades. I was serious about
> >>>> > school; fun time was reserved for after school let out.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXIw1BvfEQ8
> >>>>
> >>>> Life greatly improved after I tested out of high school.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Jill
> >>>>
> >>>> --Bryan
> >>>
> >>> Things generally improve after the underachiever leaves high school. I
> >>> don't use "underachiever" in a pejorative way. It simply means that
> >>> the student is not performing up to the levels they're capable of.
> >>> Mostly, it means that the student (usually male) is bored out of their
> >>> skulls.
> >>
> >>Or takes drugs.
> >>
> >>> These students need all the diversions they can get to survive!
> >>
> >>More drugs maybe?
> >
> > Did you lose a family member or a friend to drugs, maybe? You're always
> > going on about them and how bad they are. Like a broken record. Or were
> > you a bad addict yourself and now you're preaching?
>
> Drug users often think the whole world must be taking or has taken drugs.
> Perhaps it's their sliding set of norms from the lifestyles they drifted
> into. However, they overlook the existence of the very large proportion
> of the population who have never taken drugs. You appear to fall into the
> former category, I fall into the latter.
>
> I grew up in an environment in which my peers took a lot of drugs. Some
> are now dead from their habits, including my best friend whom we buried a
> few years ago. Others live on the margins of society as wasted hollow
> shells of what they could have been. Only one or two are more or less
> coping with years of continued drug use and they tend to be dealers.
>
> Kids, the drugs don't work. If you believe they do then that's probably
> the drugs making you unable to see yourself objectively.
>
> As it happens I don't go around trying to stop anyone taking drugs. It's
> their choice. I often observe their addled quasi-psychiatric mental state
> and unbalanced mentation. Its sad.

My wife and I were listening to the Beach Boy's "God Only Knows." She tells me that if she never met me, she thinks that she'd be a druggie alcoholic. That's an interesting thing to say. I'm like a freakin' personal Jesus. That's awesome - everybody should have a personal Jesus!

dsi1 wrote:
>
> My wife and I were listening to the Beach Boy's "God Only Knows." She tells me that if she never met me, she thinks that she'd be a druggie alcoholic. That's an interesting thing to say. I'm like a freakin' personal Jesus. That's awesome - everybody should have a personal Jesus!

And being Jesus, you DO have the ability to heal the hearing
impaired.

On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 12:52:48 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > My wife and I were listening to the Beach Boy's "God Only Knows." She tells me that if she never met me, she thinks that she'd be a druggie alcoholic. That's an interesting thing to say. I'm like a freakin' personal Jesus.. That's awesome - everybody should have a personal Jesus!
>
> And being Jesus, you DO have the ability to heal the hearing
> impaired.

Why yes. Truly, I am the chosen one. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

On 2020 Oct 18, , dsi1 wrote
(in >):
Mostly, it means that the

> student (usually male) is bored out of their skulls. These students need all
> the diversions they can get to survive!

The student is bored. They dont understand the material presented in
class. Pot makes them smart. LSD makes them geniuses. Meth makes them active.
People dont give them money. They get violent. They get shot by the cops.

On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 14:10:07 -0700, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Oct 18, , dsi1 wrote
>(in >):
>Mostly, it means that the
>
>> student (usually male) is bored out of their skulls. These students need all
>> the diversions they can get to survive!
>
>The student is bored. They dont understand the material presented in
>class. Pot makes them smart. LSD makes them geniuses. Meth makes them active.
>People dont give them money. They get violent. They get shot by the cops.

Such a deplorable perspective.

On 2020 Oct 18, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> Such a deplorable perspective.

I know! Right? And so true for so many said the deplorable to the fungible.

On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 16:14:05 -0700, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Oct 18, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> Such a deplorable perspective.
>
>I know! Right? And so true for so many said the deplorable to the fungible.

It's a scary world out there, Leo. They're all trying to get ya! Hold
on to your gun!

On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 11:09:43 AM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Oct 18, , dsi1 wrote
> (in >):
> Mostly, it means that the
>
> > student (usually male) is bored out of their skulls. These students need all
> > the diversions they can get to survive!
>
> The student is bored. They dont understand the material presented in
> class. Pot makes them smart. LSD makes them geniuses. Meth makes them active.
> People dont give them money. They get violent. They get shot by the cops.

My sons were classic underachievers. The reality is that if the schools can't utilize and nurture the kid's love and need for/of learning, they've failed. When my son was 8, he tested at a high school level in reading and math. High school, however, was a disaster. I had to pull my second son out of elementary school because the teachers were clueless about how to work with my son. I wasn't about to make the same mistakes that I made with my older son. My view of the educational system at the pre-college level is quite dark.

On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 19:54:03 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 11:09:43 AM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>> On 2020 Oct 18, , dsi1 wrote
>> (in >):
>> Mostly, it means that the
>>
>> > student (usually male) is bored out of their skulls. These students need all
>> > the diversions they can get to survive!
>>
>> The student is bored. They dont understand the material presented in
>> class. Pot makes them smart. LSD makes them geniuses. Meth makes them active.
>> People dont give them money. They get violent. They get shot by the cops.
>
>My sons were classic underachievers. The reality is that if the schools can't utilize and nurture the kid's love and need for/of learning, they've failed. When my son was 8, he tested at a high school level in reading and math. High school, however, was a disaster. I had to pull my second son out of elementary school because the
teachers were clueless about how to work with my son. I wasn't about to make the same mistakes that I made with my older son. My view of the educational system at the pre-college level is quite dark.

My teachers didn't work with me. I worked with them.

Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 19:54:03 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 11:09:43 AM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>>> On 2020 Oct 18, , dsi1 wrote
>>> (in >):
>>> Mostly, it means that the
>>>
>>>> student (usually male) is bored out of their skulls. These students need all
>>>> the diversions they can get to survive!
>>>
>>> The student is bored. They don€„¢t understand the material presented in
>>> class. Pot makes them smart. LSD makes them geniuses. Meth makes them active.
>>> People don€„¢t give them money. They get violent. They get shot by the cops.
>>
>> My sons were classic underachievers. The reality is that if the schools can't utilize and nurture the kid's love and need for/of learning, they've failed. When my son was 8, he tested at a high school level in reading and math. High school, however, was a disaster. I had to pull my second son out of elementary school because the
> teachers were clueless about how to work with my son. I wasn't about to make the same mistakes that I made with my older son. My view of the educational system at the pre-college level is quite dark.
>

Your view of everything is quite dark.

On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 22:41:01 -0500, Hank Rogers wrote:

> Your view of everything is quite dark.

Nonsense, Hank. It's just his view being blocked by his Covid mask
getting pushed into his eyes when he sticks his nose into an anus.

On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 15:14:45 -0000 (UTC), Mike Duffy
> wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 22:41:01 -0500, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>> Your view of everything is quite dark.
>
>Nonsense, Hank. It's just his view being blocked by his Covid mask
>getting pushed into his eyes when he sticks his nose into an anus.

I have no idea why you have a problem with me. I don't know you.

On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 5:34:08 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 19:54:03 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 11:09:43 AM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> >> On 2020 Oct 18, , dsi1 wrote
> >> (in >):
> >> Mostly, it means that the
> >>
> >> > student (usually male) is bored out of their skulls. These students need all
> >> > the diversions they can get to survive!
> >>
> >> The student is bored. They dont understand the material presented in
> >> class. Pot makes them smart. LSD makes them geniuses. Meth makes them active.
> >> People dont give them money. They get violent. They get shot by the cops.
> >
> >My sons were classic underachievers. The reality is that if the schools can't utilize and nurture the kid's love and need for/of learning, they've failed. When my son was 8, he tested at a high school level in reading and math. High school, however, was a disaster. I had to pull my second son out of elementary school because the
> teachers were clueless about how to work with my son. I wasn't about to make the same mistakes that I made with my older son. My view of the educational system at the pre-college level is quite dark.
>
> My teachers didn't work with me. I worked with them.

Sounds like you're a female. Females are better dispositioned to sitting for long periods of time listening to someone drone on and on and on and on. The male's neurological system doesn't work that way.

On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 21:15:32 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 5:34:08 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 19:54:03 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 11:09:43 AM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>> >> On 2020 Oct 18, , dsi1 wrote
>> >> (in >):
>> >> Mostly, it means that the
>> >>
>> >> > student (usually male) is bored out of their skulls. These students need all
>> >> > the diversions they can get to survive!
>> >>
>> >> The student is bored. They dont understand the material presented in
>> >> class. Pot makes them smart. LSD makes them geniuses. Meth makes them active.
>> >> People dont give them money. They get violent. They get shot by the cops.
>> >
>> >My sons were classic underachievers. The reality is that if the schools can't utilize and nurture the kid's love and need for/of learning, they've failed. When my son was 8, he tested at a high school level in reading and math. High school, however, was a disaster. I had to pull my second son out of elementary school because
the
>> teachers were clueless about how to work with my son. I wasn't about to make the same mistakes that I made with my older son. My view of the educational system at the pre-college level is quite dark.
>>
>> My teachers didn't work with me. I worked with them.
>
>Sounds like you're a female. Females are better dispositioned to sitting for long periods of time listening to someone drone on and on and on and on. The male's neurological system doesn't work that way.

Who says I droned? You probably made that up based on your own
experiences

On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 6:18:42 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 21:15:32 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 5:34:08 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 19:54:03 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 11:09:43 AM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> >> >> On 2020 Oct 18, , dsi1 wrote
> >> >> (in >):
> >> >> Mostly, it means that the
> >> >>
> >> >> > student (usually male) is bored out of their skulls. These students need all
> >> >> > the diversions they can get to survive!
> >> >>
> >> >> The student is bored. They dont understand the material presented in
> >> >> class. Pot makes them smart. LSD makes them geniuses. Meth makes them active.
> >> >> People dont give them money. They get violent. They get shot by the cops.
> >> >
> >> >My sons were classic underachievers. The reality is that if the schools can't utilize and nurture the kid's love and need for/of learning, they've failed. When my son was 8, he tested at a high school level in reading and math. High school, however, was a disaster. I had to pull my second son out of elementary school because
> the
> >> teachers were clueless about how to work with my son. I wasn't about to make the same mistakes that I made with my older son. My view of the educational system at the pre-college level is quite dark.
> >>
> >> My teachers didn't work with me. I worked with them.
> >
> >Sounds like you're a female. Females are better dispositioned to sitting for long periods of time listening to someone drone on and on and on and on. The male's neurological system doesn't work that way.
>
> Who says I droned? You probably made that up based on your own
> experiences

I misunderstood. I thought you were talking about your experiences as a high school student. As far as you being a drone of a teacher goes, that's a question better asked of your students. Their experiences tends to be different than their teachers.