On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 17:52:21 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 3:22:28 AM UTC-10, Snag wrote:

>> If you'd look at anything besides MSM , you'd be much better informed
>> about what's really going on . "Mostly peaceful" my dyin' ass . Burning
>> out innocent businesses , smacking people over the head with bricks ,
>> shooting and killing a man just because he's wearing a MAGA hat , trying
>> - and in some cases succeeding - to blind LEO's with lasers , have you
>> not seen any of this ? Or do you condone all the violence ? I've been
>> watching BOTH sides , and IMO the mainstream media outlets are just flat
>> out lying about all of this .
>> --
>> Snag
>> Illegitimi non
>> carborundum
>
>The reality is that this is the America of 2020. It is the America created by DJ Trump. If you don't like what you see, you better think hard about the kind of America you want and vote accordingly. If everything is fine and dandy, then you know what to do. Just don't do anything stupid - like voting twice. That's a felony.

From a distance, the US looks like a country that's going to shit. But
maybe that's not something one experiences locally in one's daily
life.

I don't like the idea of the US going to shit, because before and
after Trump it's the only half-decent superpower there is. The Russian
and Chinese regimes are barbaric.

On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 17:52:21 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 3:22:28 AM UTC-10, Snag wrote:
>> On 9/3/2020 5:13 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 6:06:11 PM UTC-4, Snag wrote:
>> >
>> >> So which are you affiliated with , BLM or antifa ? Because what
>> >> you're suggesting for newsgroups is EXACTLY what those 2 groups are
>> >> doing to the USA .
>> >
>> > What, precisely, is BLM doing to the U.S.? In this morning's paper I
>> > saw a photo of a BLM protest in AnnArbor. The people were sitting outside
>> > City Hall, masked and distanced, holding signs.
>> >
>> > Oh, the horror!
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>> >
>>
>> If you'd look at anything besides MSM , you'd be much better informed
>> about what's really going on . "Mostly peaceful" my dyin' ass . Burning
>> out innocent businesses , smacking people over the head with bricks ,
>> shooting and killing a man just because he's wearing a MAGA hat , trying
>> - and in some cases succeeding - to blind LEO's with lasers , have you
>> not seen any of this ? Or do you condone all the violence ? I've been
>> watching BOTH sides , and IMO the mainstream media outlets are just flat
>> out lying about all of this .
>> --
>> Snag
>> Illegitimi non
>> carborundum
>
>The reality is that this is the America of 2020. It is the America created by DJ Trump.

Would I be overly optimistic in asking you how Trump was responsible
for ANY of the rioting? Yes, I would.

ALL of the violence has been instigated by the BLM/Antifa/far left.

Unless you can find some riots started by right wing extremists, or
even anyone NOT aligned with those aforementioned groups? Because I
can't. Not yet, at least. But a centre/right wing response is probably
not far away now.


>If you don't like what you see, you better think hard about the kind of America you want and vote accordingly.

Hmm. What a novel concept.

On Fri, 04 Sep 2020 11:17:44 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 17:52:21 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 3:22:28 AM UTC-10, Snag wrote:
>>> On 9/3/2020 5:13 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> > On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 6:06:11 PM UTC-4, Snag wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> So which are you affiliated with , BLM or antifa ? Because what
>>> >> you're suggesting for newsgroups is EXACTLY what those 2 groups are
>>> >> doing to the USA .
>>> >
>>> > What, precisely, is BLM doing to the U.S.? In this morning's paper I
>>> > saw a photo of a BLM protest in AnnArbor. The people were sitting outside
>>> > City Hall, masked and distanced, holding signs.
>>> >
>>> > Oh, the horror!
>>> >
>>> > Cindy Hamilton
>>> >
>>>
>>> If you'd look at anything besides MSM , you'd be much better informed
>>> about what's really going on . "Mostly peaceful" my dyin' ass . Burning
>>> out innocent businesses , smacking people over the head with bricks ,
>>> shooting and killing a man just because he's wearing a MAGA hat , trying
>>> - and in some cases succeeding - to blind LEO's with lasers , have you
>>> not seen any of this ? Or do you condone all the violence ? I've been
>>> watching BOTH sides , and IMO the mainstream media outlets are just flat
>>> out lying about all of this .
>>> --
>>> Snag
>>> Illegitimi non
>>> carborundum
>>
>>The reality is that this is the America of 2020. It is the America created by DJ Trump.
>
>Would I be overly optimistic in asking you how Trump was responsible
>for ANY of the rioting? Yes, I would.
>
>ALL of the violence has been instigated by the BLM/Antifa/far left.

On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 08:22:24 -0500, Snag > wrote:

>On 9/3/2020 5:13 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 6:06:11 PM UTC-4, Snag wrote:
>>
>>> So which are you affiliated with , BLM or antifa ? Because what
>>> you're suggesting for newsgroups is EXACTLY what those 2 groups are
>>> doing to the USA .
>>
>> What, precisely, is BLM doing to the U.S.? In this morning's paper I
>> saw a photo of a BLM protest in AnnArbor. The people were sitting outside
>> City Hall, masked and distanced, holding signs.
>>
>> Oh, the horror!
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>
> If you'd look at anything besides MSM , you'd be much better informed
>about what's really going on . "Mostly peaceful" my dyin' ass . Burning
>out innocent businesses , smacking people over the head with bricks ,
>shooting and killing a man just because he's wearing a MAGA hat , trying
>- and in some cases succeeding - to blind LEO's with lasers , have you
>not seen any of this ? Or do you condone all the violence ? I've been
>watching BOTH sides , and IMO the mainstream media outlets are just flat
>out lying about all of this .

Here's another good one, LOL. These groups will invariably turn on
themselves when they have no one left to attack:


"Antifa torches Portland mayor's apartment on his birthday"

As leftists still claim that the Portland protests are "mostly
peaceful," rioters last night continued to loot, vandalize, and set
residences ablaze—this time the apartment building where Mayor Ted
Wheeler lives and on his birthday.

A Portland resident who has worked downtown for 15 years asserted that
his place of employment on campus is "safe and sound."

"The buildings are not on fire. There is not lawlessness in the
streets. Most folks are still social distancing and trying to stay
home. Like every other city in the United States," tweeted Nick Walden
Poublon, a self-described health advisor and advocate for Portland
State University and a Biden-Harris supporter.

However, a few blocks away, a building was very much on fire as a
tightly-packed crowd with very little social distancing ventured
outside their homes to torch their elected official's home and that of
numerous other Portland civilians.

Over the weekend, protestors had occupied the Portland mayor's
apartment building to demand his resignation. When the lock-in
demonstration in Wheeler's apartment lobby failed, agitators attempted
to burn his residence down with children reportedly living in the
complex.

Last month, Wheeler was tear-gassed by federal agents as he attempted
to join his fellow demonstrators at a police brutality rally, claiming
he “saw nothing that provoked this response” even as rioters set the
Mark O. Hatfield Federal Courthouse on fire.

Conservative media analyst Mark Dice noted: "Frankenstein has turned
on its master."

https://thepostmillennial.com/antifa...bpH_DyEKimJWng

Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Sep 2020 10:23:55 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 19:17:31 -0500, Snag > wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/3/2020 5:35 PM, Je?us wrote:
>
>>>> Indeed. I've started reporting all the fake videos on Youtube, like
>>>> these ones:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNlm2sWQsh0
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jE_sPSVxhk
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkHEAI75rfE
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8z0jFxOmFo
>>>>
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Those damn lyin' hard-core right-wing blowhards ! Oh wait - CBS/NBC
>>> affiliates and Bloomberg ... never mind . So much for tert's bullshit
>>> narrative .
>>
>> <G>. Indeed.
>
> Jebus has now sunk to the level of a moonshine abusing mountain cabin
> dweller with one tooth. I don't think Thailand had a good influence on
> the diminutive Tasmanian hobby farmer.
>

So, yoose think a dutch butt sniffer could help him?

Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Sep 2020 10:23:55 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 19:17:31 -0500, Snag > wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/3/2020 5:35 PM, Je?us wrote:
>
>>>> Indeed. I've started reporting all the fake videos on Youtube, like
>>>> these ones:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNlm2sWQsh0
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jE_sPSVxhk
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkHEAI75rfE
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8z0jFxOmFo
>>>>
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Those damn lyin' hard-core right-wing blowhards ! Oh wait - CBS/NBC
>>> affiliates and Bloomberg ... never mind . So much for tert's bullshit
>>> narrative .
>>
>> <G>. Indeed.
>
> Jebus has now sunk to the level of a moonshine abusing mountain cabin
> dweller with one tooth. I don't think Thailand had a good influence on
> the diminutive Tasmanian hobby farmer.
>

Next thing he'll start sniffing butts and sticking his finger in
rectums!

Yoose a bad influence on the man.

On 2020 Sep 2, , Ed Pawlowski wrote
(in article >):

> Looks like someone found a post from 15 years ago. RFC used to be
> popular way back when the major ISPs carried newsgroups. No one has
> heard of them since. How many new people show up here every year?

27, but 25 are driven off and we lose 6 to natural causes or ennui.

On 2020 Sep 2, , dsi1 wrote
(in >):

> With you people, anybody that doesn't follow your line is BLM or antifa. I
> won't make a comment about your silly comment because I don't give out info
> on my beliefs. As far as your bitbucket goes, don't threaten - do. And yes, I
> won't let yoose *******s get me down.

Remember, if America goes down to whatever the hell is going on here, a less
beneficent country will take over. Nobody will ever leave you alone. Count on
it. Youre a strategic landing strip between Asia and America.

Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Sep 2, , dsi1 wrote
> (in >):
>
>> With you people, anybody that doesn't follow your line is BLM or antifa. I
>> won't make a comment about your silly comment because I don't give out info
>> on my beliefs. As far as your bitbucket goes, don't threaten - do. And yes, I
>> won't let yoose *******s get me down.
>
> Remember, if America goes down to whatever the hell is going on here, a less
> beneficent country will take over. Nobody will ever leave you alone. Count on
> it. You€„¢re a strategic landing strip between Asia and America.
>
>

Maybe da rock would be useful as a nuclear test range. It's big
enough for hundreds of shots before disappearing like bikini atoll.

On 2020 Sep 3, , tert in seattle wrote
(in article >):

> Back in the days of CHAZ/CHOP one of my cousins from Iowa called me to
> check and make sure I was okay because she heard on Fox news or wherever
> that Seattle had been taken over by antifa. Fortunately she believed me
> when I told her everything was fine. If Snag and Co are so far gone
> they're not going to believe eyewitness accounts contrary to the
> propaganda they're being fed by rightwing blowhards, why bother trying?

Thank you! I was worried that small business owners were being burned out,
windows were being broken, vehicles being set on fire and a black youth was
shot dead and prohibited from being retrieved. I heard that people within the
CHOP zone were being extorted for money in their own residences.
So, this was all right wing propaganda and the videos were fake. Good to
know. Keep us informed!
I see that your Chief of Police resigned today. You all must feel very proud.

On Thu, 03 Sep 2020 20:59:59 -0700, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Sep 2, , dsi1 wrote
>(in >):
>
>> With you people, anybody that doesn't follow your line is BLM or antifa. I
>> won't make a comment about your silly comment because I don't give out info
>> on my beliefs. As far as your bitbucket goes, don't threaten - do. And yes, I
>> won't let yoose *******s get me down.
>
>Remember, if America goes down to whatever the hell is going on here, a less
>beneficent country will take over. Nobody will ever leave you alone. Count on
>it. Youre a strategic landing strip between Asia and America.

At least he would be oppressed, exploited and usurped by his Asian
brethren?

On Thu, 03 Sep 2020 21:47:19 -0700, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Sep 3, , tert in seattle wrote
>(in article >):
>
>> Back in the days of CHAZ/CHOP one of my cousins from Iowa called me to
>> check and make sure I was okay because she heard on Fox news or wherever
>> that Seattle had been taken over by antifa. Fortunately she believed me
>> when I told her everything was fine. If Snag and Co are so far gone
>> they're not going to believe eyewitness accounts contrary to the
>> propaganda they're being fed by rightwing blowhards, why bother trying?
>
>Thank you! I was worried that small business owners were being burned out,
>windows were being broken, vehicles being set on fire and a black youth was
>shot dead and prohibited from being retrieved. I heard that people within the
>CHOP zone were being extorted for money in their own residences.
>So, this was all right wing propaganda and the videos were fake. Good to
>know. Keep us informed!
>I see that your Chief of Police resigned today. You all must feel very proud.

The price of electing a divisive president who only represents white,
disgruntled America.

On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 6:00:07 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Sep 2, , dsi1 wrote
> (in >):
>
> > With you people, anybody that doesn't follow your line is BLM or antifa.. I
> > won't make a comment about your silly comment because I don't give out info
> > on my beliefs. As far as your bitbucket goes, don't threaten - do. And yes, I
> > won't let yoose *******s get me down.
>
> Remember, if America goes down to whatever the hell is going on here, a less
> beneficent country will take over. Nobody will ever leave you alone. Count on
> it. Youre a strategic landing strip between Asia and America.

We'll tackle that problem when America decides to give the Hawaiians their freedom. My guess is that the rich Americans will come here and steal the land again. Then, we'll just move to Jamaica.

On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 22:11:39 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 6:00:07 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>> On 2020 Sep 2, , dsi1 wrote
>> (in >):
>>
>> > With you people, anybody that doesn't follow your line is BLM or antifa. I
>> > won't make a comment about your silly comment because I don't give out info
>> > on my beliefs. As far as your bitbucket goes, don't threaten - do. And yes, I
>> > won't let yoose *******s get me down.
>>
>> Remember, if America goes down to whatever the hell is going on here, a less
>> beneficent country will take over. Nobody will ever leave you alone. Count on
>> it. Youre a strategic landing strip between Asia and America.
>
>We'll tackle that problem when America decides to give the Hawaiians their freedom.

Who would feed them?

Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Sep 2020 20:59:59 -0700, Leo >
> wrote:
>
>> On 2020 Sep 2, , dsi1 wrote
>> (in >):
>>
>>> With you people, anybody that doesn't follow your line is BLM or antifa. I
>>> won't make a comment about your silly comment because I don't give out info
>>> on my beliefs. As far as your bitbucket goes, don't threaten - do. And yes, I
>>> won't let yoose *******s get me down.
>>
>> Remember, if America goes down to whatever the hell is going on here, a less
>> beneficent country will take over. Nobody will ever leave you alone. Count on
>> it. You€„¢re a strategic landing strip between Asia and America.
>
> At least he would be oppressed, exploited and usurped by his Asian
> brethren?
>

How will he know who's doing it? He can't tell one from another.

dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 6:00:07 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>> On 2020 Sep 2, , dsi1 wrote
>> (in >):
>>
>>> With you people, anybody that doesn't follow your line is BLM or antifa. I
>>> won't make a comment about your silly comment because I don't give out info
>>> on my beliefs. As far as your bitbucket goes, don't threaten - do. And yes, I
>>> won't let yoose *******s get me down.
>>
>> Remember, if America goes down to whatever the hell is going on here, a less
>> beneficent country will take over. Nobody will ever leave you alone. Count on
>> it. You€„¢re a strategic landing strip between Asia and America.
>
> We'll tackle that problem when America decides to give the Hawaiians their freedom. My guess is that the rich Americans will come here and steal the land again. Then, we'll just move to Jamaica.
>

Jamaica is a nice place. The only mean nasty old americans you'll
have to put up with are just tourists.

Maybe Druce can join you.

Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 22:11:39 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 6:00:07 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
>>> On 2020 Sep 2, , dsi1 wrote
>>> (in >):
>>>
>>>> With you people, anybody that doesn't follow your line is BLM or antifa. I
>>>> won't make a comment about your silly comment because I don't give out info
>>>> on my beliefs. As far as your bitbucket goes, don't threaten - do. And yes, I
>>>> won't let yoose *******s get me down.
>>>
>>> Remember, if America goes down to whatever the hell is going on here, a less
>>> beneficent country will take over. Nobody will ever leave you alone. Count on
>>> it. You€„¢re a strategic landing strip between Asia and America.
>>
>> We'll tackle that problem when America decides to give the Hawaiians their freedom.
>
> Who would feed them?
>

The dutch?

At least you can keep their butts dusted.

On 2020 Sep 3, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> The price of electing a divisive president who only represents white,
> disgruntled America.

Sure...why not? Moron. Im not casting aspersions toward you. I'm simply
pointing out the obvious.

On Thu, 03 Sep 2020 22:38:48 -0700, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Sep 3, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> The price of electing a divisive president who only represents white,
>> disgruntled America.
>
>Sure...why not? Moron. Im not casting aspersions toward you. I'm simply
>pointing out the obvious.

I must be pressing a lot of buttons lately and I'm not even aware!

On Thu, 03 Sep 2020 22:38:48 -0700, Leo >
wrote:


>Sure...why not? Moron. I’m not casting aspersions toward you. I'm simply
>pointing out the obvious.

Oh, he's a moron alright. A spineless moron who trolls RFC because in
real life he's just an insipid little fag who'd never speak the same
way to anyone.

On Fri, 04 Sep 2020 16:10:01 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Sep 2020 22:38:48 -0700, Leo >
>wrote:
>
>
>>Sure...why not? Moron. Im not casting aspersions toward you. I'm simply
>>pointing out the obvious.
>
>Oh, he's a moron alright. A spineless moron who trolls RFC because in
>real life he's just an insipid little fag who'd never speak the same
>way to anyone.

And another button! I'm becoming good!

On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 6:29:36 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 11:26:03 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 2:02:56 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
> >> On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 03:13:51 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 6:06:11 PM UTC-4, Snag wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> So which are you affiliated with , BLM or antifa ? Because what
> >> >> you're suggesting for newsgroups is EXACTLY what those 2 groups are
> >> >> doing to the USA .
> >> >
> >> >What, precisely, is BLM doing to the U.S.? In this morning's paper I
> >> >saw a photo of a BLM protest in AnnArbor. The people were sitting outside
> >> >City Hall, masked and distanced, holding signs.
> >> >
> >> >Oh, the horror!
> >> LOL. You have selective vision, or poor choices in where you source
> >> your information.
> >
> >I saw the photograph of Ann Arbor BLM protesters in the local newspaper.
> >If I wanted to verify it, I could drive down there and look.
> How obtuse.

In a timely coincidence, my attention was drawn this morning to this report:

<https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/>

The text can probably be discounted for its liberal slant, but the data indicate that 93% of
BLM demonstrations were peaceful.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 8:52:25 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 3:22:28 AM UTC-10, Snag wrote:
> > On 9/3/2020 5:13 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 6:06:11 PM UTC-4, Snag wrote:
> > >
> > >> So which are you affiliated with , BLM or antifa ? Because what
> > >> you're suggesting for newsgroups is EXACTLY what those 2 groups are
> > >> doing to the USA .
> > >
> > > What, precisely, is BLM doing to the U.S.? In this morning's paper I
> > > saw a photo of a BLM protest in AnnArbor. The people were sitting outside
> > > City Hall, masked and distanced, holding signs.
> > >
> > > Oh, the horror!
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> > >
> >
> > If you'd look at anything besides MSM , you'd be much better informed
> > about what's really going on . "Mostly peaceful" my dyin' ass . Burning
> > out innocent businesses , smacking people over the head with bricks ,
> > shooting and killing a man just because he's wearing a MAGA hat , trying
> > - and in some cases succeeding - to blind LEO's with lasers , have you
> > not seen any of this ? Or do you condone all the violence ? I've been
> > watching BOTH sides , and IMO the mainstream media outlets are just flat
> > out lying about all of this .
> > --
> > Snag
> > Illegitimi non
> > carborundum
> The reality is that this is the America of 2020. It is the America created by DJ Trump. If you don't like what you see, you better think hard about the kind of America you want and vote accordingly. If everything is fine and dandy, then you know what to do. Just don't do anything stupid - like voting twice. That's a felony.

Trump isn't the cause; he's the symptom. You can assign blame all the way back to
Goldwater, but I assign most of the blame to talk radio and Fox News. Their "infotainment"
has brainwashed two generations of Americans.

Of course entities like the Texas state board of education don't help, either:

"We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the students fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority. "

<https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/news/2012-08-18/half-true-what-politifact-got-wrong-about-the-gop-and-critical-thinking/>

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 03:30:53 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 8:52:25 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 3:22:28 AM UTC-10, Snag wrote:
>> >
>> > If you'd look at anything besides MSM , you'd be much better informed
>> > about what's really going on . "Mostly peaceful" my dyin' ass . Burning
>> > out innocent businesses , smacking people over the head with bricks ,
>> > shooting and killing a man just because he's wearing a MAGA hat , trying
>> > - and in some cases succeeding - to blind LEO's with lasers , have you
>> > not seen any of this ? Or do you condone all the violence ? I've been
>> > watching BOTH sides , and IMO the mainstream media outlets are just flat
>> > out lying about all of this .
>> > --
>> > Snag
>> > Illegitimi non
>> > carborundum
>> The reality is that this is the America of 2020. It is the America created by DJ Trump. If you don't like what you see, you better think hard about the kind of America you want and vote accordingly. If everything is fine and dandy, then you know what to do. Just don't do anything stupid - like voting twice. That's a felony.
>
>Trump isn't the cause; he's the symptom. You can assign blame all the way back to
>Goldwater, but I assign most of the blame to talk radio and Fox News. Their "infotainment"
>has brainwashed two generations of Americans.

And the occasional diminutive Tasmanian hobby farmer.

On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 6:44:26 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 03:30:53 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 8:52:25 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 3:22:28 AM UTC-10, Snag wrote:
> >> >
> >> > If you'd look at anything besides MSM , you'd be much better informed
> >> > about what's really going on . "Mostly peaceful" my dyin' ass . Burning
> >> > out innocent businesses , smacking people over the head with bricks ,
> >> > shooting and killing a man just because he's wearing a MAGA hat , trying
> >> > - and in some cases succeeding - to blind LEO's with lasers , have you
> >> > not seen any of this ? Or do you condone all the violence ? I've been
> >> > watching BOTH sides , and IMO the mainstream media outlets are just flat
> >> > out lying about all of this .
> >> > --
> >> > Snag
> >> > Illegitimi non
> >> > carborundum
> >> The reality is that this is the America of 2020. It is the America created by DJ Trump. If you don't like what you see, you better think hard about the kind of America you want and vote accordingly. If everything is fine and dandy, then you know what to do. Just don't do anything stupid - like voting twice. That's a felony.
> >
> >Trump isn't the cause; he's the symptom. You can assign blame all the way back to
> >Goldwater, but I assign most of the blame to talk radio and Fox News. Their "infotainment"
> >has brainwashed two generations of Americans.
> And the occasional diminutive Tasmanian hobby farmer.

I don't really care about Jeßus. He can't vote in U.S. elections.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> I know there are places where looting, rioting and burning are happening.
> The right-wing media never talk about the places where it is not happening,
> as far as I can tell.

Do you listen to right-wing media? I don't. Most tv news is
left wing and that's what I watch.

I listen/watch for a summary of world news today, never listen
to political discussion shows. I'm not interested what they say
I can make up my own mind.

Bruce wrote:
>
> From a distance, the US looks like a country that's going to shit.

I feel the same way and I live here.
It's not just you and it's also not just Trump.

In article >,
says...
> Trump isn't the cause; he's the symptom. You can assign blame all the way back to
> Goldwater, but I assign most of the blame to talk radio and Fox News. Their "infotainment"
> has brainwashed two generations of Americans.
>
> Of course entities like the Texas state board of education don't help, either:
>
> "We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student?s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority. "
>
> <https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/news/2012-08-18/half-true-what-politifact-got-wrong-about-the-gop-and-critical-thinking/>


Thanks for that link I think :-(

Janet UK

On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 11:32:51 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > I know there are places where looting, rioting and burning are happening.
> > The right-wing media never talk about the places where it is not happening,
> > as far as I can tell.
>
> Do you listen to right-wing media? I don't. Most tv news is
> left wing and that's what I watch.
>
> I listen/watch for a summary of world news today, never listen
> to political discussion shows. I'm not interested what they say
> I can make up my own mind.

I don't listen to any media. I read the news.

I fairly often visit Fox News, but rarely and farther right than that.

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 12:30:58 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 8:52:25 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 3:22:28 AM UTC-10, Snag wrote:
> > > On 9/3/2020 5:13 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 6:06:11 PM UTC-4, Snag wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> So which are you affiliated with , BLM or antifa ? Because what
> > > >> you're suggesting for newsgroups is EXACTLY what those 2 groups are
> > > >> doing to the USA .
> > > >
> > > > What, precisely, is BLM doing to the U.S.? In this morning's paper I
> > > > saw a photo of a BLM protest in AnnArbor. The people were sitting outside
> > > > City Hall, masked and distanced, holding signs.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, the horror!
> > > >
> > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > >
> > >
> > > If you'd look at anything besides MSM , you'd be much better informed
> > > about what's really going on . "Mostly peaceful" my dyin' ass . Burning
> > > out innocent businesses , smacking people over the head with bricks ,
> > > shooting and killing a man just because he's wearing a MAGA hat , trying
> > > - and in some cases succeeding - to blind LEO's with lasers , have you
> > > not seen any of this ? Or do you condone all the violence ? I've been
> > > watching BOTH sides , and IMO the mainstream media outlets are just flat
> > > out lying about all of this .
> > > --
> > > Snag
> > > Illegitimi non
> > > carborundum
> > The reality is that this is the America of 2020. It is the America created by DJ Trump. If you don't like what you see, you better think hard about the kind of America you want and vote accordingly. If everything is fine and dandy, then you know what to do. Just don't do anything stupid - like voting twice. That's a felony.
>
> Trump isn't the cause; he's the symptom. You can assign blame all the way back to
> Goldwater, but I assign most of the blame to talk radio and Fox News. Their "infotainment"
> has brainwashed two generations of Americans.
>
> Of course entities like the Texas state board of education don't help, either:
>
> "We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the students fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority. "
>
> <https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/news/2012-08-18/half-true-what-politifact-got-wrong-about-the-gop-and-critical-thinking/>
>
> Cindy Hamilton

That's an interesting thought: all this has nothing to do with the president. It doesn't matter who gets elected? Well that's reassuring - I was so worried about that!

On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 12:55:58 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 6:44:26 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> > On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 03:30:53 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 8:52:25 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > >> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 3:22:28 AM UTC-10, Snag wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > If you'd look at anything besides MSM , you'd be much better informed
> > >> > about what's really going on . "Mostly peaceful" my dyin' ass . Burning
> > >> > out innocent businesses , smacking people over the head with bricks ,
> > >> > shooting and killing a man just because he's wearing a MAGA hat , trying
> > >> > - and in some cases succeeding - to blind LEO's with lasers , have you
> > >> > not seen any of this ? Or do you condone all the violence ? I've been
> > >> > watching BOTH sides , and IMO the mainstream media outlets are just flat
> > >> > out lying about all of this .
> > >> > --
> > >> > Snag
> > >> > Illegitimi non
> > >> > carborundum
> > >> The reality is that this is the America of 2020. It is the America created by DJ Trump. If you don't like what you see, you better think hard about the kind of America you want and vote accordingly. If everything is fine and dandy, then you know what to do. Just don't do anything stupid - like voting twice. That's a felony.
> > >
> > >Trump isn't the cause; he's the symptom. You can assign blame all the way back to
> > >Goldwater, but I assign most of the blame to talk radio and Fox News. Their "infotainment"
> > >has brainwashed two generations of Americans.
> > And the occasional diminutive Tasmanian hobby farmer.
>
> I don't really care about Jeßus. He can't vote in U.S. elections.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

That is indeed weird. Why would an Aussie bloke give a shit about American and Hawaiian politics?

Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Sep 2020 16:10:01 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 03 Sep 2020 22:38:48 -0700, Leo >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Sure...why not? Moron. I€„¢m not casting aspersions toward you. I'm simply
>>> pointing out the obvious.
>>
>> Oh, he's a moron alright. A spineless moron who trolls RFC because in
>> real life he's just an insipid little fag who'd never speak the same
>> way to anyone.
>
> And another button! I'm becoming good!
>

Congrats on the first double sniff today Fruce.

On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 11:47:10 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 12:55:58 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 6:44:26 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

>> > And the occasional diminutive Tasmanian hobby farmer.
>>
>> I don't really care about Jeßus. He can't vote in U.S. elections.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>That is indeed weird. Why would an Aussie bloke give a shit about American and Hawaiian politics?

Americans are very inward oriented. Most people from big countries
are. People from smaller countries tend to look further than their own
country.

On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 9:37:23 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 11:47:10 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 12:55:58 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 6:44:26 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>
> >> > And the occasional diminutive Tasmanian hobby farmer.
> >>
> >> I don't really care about Jeßus. He can't vote in U.S. elections..
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >
> >That is indeed weird. Why would an Aussie bloke give a shit about American and Hawaiian politics?
>
> Americans are very inward oriented. Most people from big countries
> are. People from smaller countries tend to look further than their own
> country.

That might be true. I got opinions on how other countries should be run. I'm not going the state them because that would be disrespectful. The reality is that yoose guys got no dog in this race. Here's your dog race.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCNuPcf8L00

On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 13:02:23 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 9:37:23 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 11:47:10 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 12:55:58 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >> On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 6:44:26 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> >> > And the occasional diminutive Tasmanian hobby farmer.
>> >>
>> >> I don't really care about Jeßus. He can't vote in U.S. elections.
>> >>
>> >> Cindy Hamilton
>> >
>> >That is indeed weird. Why would an Aussie bloke give a shit about American and Hawaiian politics?
>>
>> Americans are very inward oriented. Most people from big countries
>> are. People from smaller countries tend to look further than their own
>> country.
>
>That might be true. I got opinions on how other countries should be run. I'm not going the state them because that would be disrespectful.

Just about everything you say is disrespectful. Enjoy!

>The reality is that yoose guys got no dog in this race.

That doesn't mean we can't have some fun.

On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 03:25:06 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 6:29:36 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 11:26:03 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 2:02:56 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 03:13:51 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 6:06:11 PM UTC-4, Snag wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> So which are you affiliated with , BLM or antifa ? Because what
>> >> >> you're suggesting for newsgroups is EXACTLY what those 2 groups are
>> >> >> doing to the USA .
>> >> >
>> >> >What, precisely, is BLM doing to the U.S.? In this morning's paper I
>> >> >saw a photo of a BLM protest in AnnArbor. The people were sitting outside
>> >> >City Hall, masked and distanced, holding signs.
>> >> >
>> >> >Oh, the horror!
>> >> LOL. You have selective vision, or poor choices in where you source
>> >> your information.
>> >
>> >I saw the photograph of Ann Arbor BLM protesters in the local newspaper.
>> >If I wanted to verify it, I could drive down there and look.
>> How obtuse.
>
>In a timely coincidence, my attention was drawn this morning to this report:
>
><https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/>
>
>The text can probably be discounted for its liberal slant, but the data indicate that 93% of
>BLM demonstrations were peaceful.

That's awesome. I'll do my best to forward that link to the tens of
thousand of perfectly innocent people who've had their homes,
businesses and personal property destroyed by the other 7%. I'm sure
that'll make them feel better. And those who've been killed? Guess I
could try a seance.

Hank Rogers wrote:

> Bruce wrote:
> > On Fri, 04 Sep 2020 16:10:01 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 03 Sep 2020 22:38:48 -0700, Leo >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Sure...why not? Moron. I€„¢m not casting aspersions toward you. I'm simply
> >>> pointing out the obvious.
> >>
> >> Oh, he's a moron alright. A spineless moron who trolls RFC because in
> >> real life he's just an insipid little fag who'd never speak the same
> >> way to anyone.
> >
> > And another button! I'm becoming good!
> >
>
> Congrats on the first double sniff today Fruce.


Only four days in September yet and I've already racked up 122 posts for this new month.

On 9/4/2020 12:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 11:32:51 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> I know there are places where looting, rioting and burning are happening.
>>> The right-wing media never talk about the places where it is not happening,
>>> as far as I can tell.
>>
>> Do you listen to right-wing media? I don't. Most tv news is
>> left wing and that's what I watch.
>>
>> I listen/watch for a summary of world news today, never listen
>> to political discussion shows. I'm not interested what they say
>> I can make up my own mind.
>
> I don't listen to any media. I read the news.
>
> I fairly often visit Fox News, but rarely and farther right than that.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Have you looked at OAN ? Very little opinion , just a presentation of
facts in their newscasts . I haven't watched anything else on their
channel . BTW , if you use ROKU or other streaming services they're
letting people watch 8 channels over at KlowdTV.com for free until the
end of the year . OAN is one of them .
--
Snag
Illegitimi non
carborundum

On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 8:10:04 PM UTC-4, Snag wrote:
> On 9/4/2020 12:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 11:32:51 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I know there are places where looting, rioting and burning are happening.
> >>> The right-wing media never talk about the places where it is not happening,
> >>> as far as I can tell.
> >>
> >> Do you listen to right-wing media? I don't. Most tv news is
> >> left wing and that's what I watch.
> >>
> >> I listen/watch for a summary of world news today, never listen
> >> to political discussion shows. I'm not interested what they say
> >> I can make up my own mind.
> >
> > I don't listen to any media. I read the news.
> >
> > I fairly often visit Fox News, but rarely and farther right than that.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> Have you looked at OAN ? Very little opinion , just a presentation of
> facts in their newscasts . I haven't watched anything else on their
> channel . BTW , if you use ROKU or other streaming services they're
> letting people watch 8 channels over at KlowdTV.com for free until the
> end of the year . OAN is one of them .
> --
> Snag
> Illegitimi non
> carborundum

OAN can express its opinion by the choices it makes in what to cover.

I don't watch or listen to news. I read it.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 8:10:04 PM UTC-4, Snag wrote:
> > On 9/4/2020 12:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 11:32:51 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > >> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I know there are places where looting, rioting and burning are happening.
> > >>> The right-wing media never talk about the places where it is not happening,
> > >>> as far as I can tell.
> > >>
> > >> Do you listen to right-wing media? I don't. Most tv news is
> > >> left wing and that's what I watch.
> > >>
> > >> I listen/watch for a summary of world news today, never listen
> > >> to political discussion shows. I'm not interested what they say
> > >> I can make up my own mind.
> > >
> > > I don't listen to any media. I read the news.
> > >
> > > I fairly often visit Fox News, but rarely and farther right than that.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> > >
> > Have you looked at OAN ? Very little opinion , just a presentation of
> > facts in their newscasts . I haven't watched anything else on their
> > channel . BTW , if you use ROKU or other streaming services they're
> > letting people watch 8 channels over at KlowdTV.com for free until the
> > end of the year . OAN is one of them .
> > --
> > Snag
> > Illegitimi non
> > carborundum
>
> OAN can express its opinion by the choices it makes in what to cover.
>
> I don't watch or listen to news. I read it.


I'm with you, I prefer to read my news. I'll only watch the local nooze stations for weather, etc. I'll watch the Sunday morning news programs - Chris Wallace on Fox is my fave - but those are more opinion shows than news...

--
Best
Greg