There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
call but all becomes clear now.

https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/

I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!

On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 7:17:24 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
> their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
> call but all becomes clear now.
>
> https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>
> I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!

Yeah, I HAD a Face**** acct, but I DELETED IT!!! And like so many, I dutifully filled out a LOT of my personal information just because Face**** BAITED ME TO! Then one day I had a PIH Epiphany! I was GIVING OUT my Protected Health Information! I am a Registered Nurse, and to uniquely ID a patient before administering medications I ask them there NAME and DOB (Date Of Birth)!

PROTECTED Health information!!! Ask HIPAA!!

Mark ****erberg ought be ARRESTED for Invasion of Privacy!! For he is EVIL PERSONIFIED!!!

John Kuthe...

On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 8:17:24 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
> their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
> call but all becomes clear now.
>
> https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>
> I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!

It's not the only answer. I've never been near FB and I get occasional
unwanted calls on my cell phone. The calling number is generally the
same exchange as my cell phone, to make it look like a local call.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 8:57:33 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 7:17:24 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> > There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
> > their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
> > call but all becomes clear now.
> >
> > https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
> >
> > I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>
> Yeah, I HAD a Face**** acct, but I DELETED IT!!! And like so many, I dutifully filled out a LOT of my personal information just because Face**** BAITED ME TO! Then one day I had a PIH Epiphany! I was GIVING OUT my Protected Health Information! I am a Registered Nurse, and to uniquely ID a patient before administering medications I ask them there NAME and DOB (Date Of Birth)!
>
> PROTECTED Health information!!! Ask HIPAA!!
>
> Mark ****erberg ought be ARRESTED for Invasion of Privacy!! For he is EVIL PERSONIFIED!!!
>
> John Kuthe...

It's not an invasion of privacy when the marks are lining up (so to speak)
to reveal their private info.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
says...
>
> On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 7:17:24 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> > There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
> > their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
> > call but all becomes clear now.
> >
> > https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
> >
> > I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>
> Yeah, I HAD a Face**** acct, but I DELETED IT!!! And like so many, I dutifully filled out a LOT of my personal information just because Face**** BAITED ME TO! Then one day I had a PIH Epiphany! I was GIVING OUT my Protected Health Information! I am a Registered Nurse, and to uniquely ID a patient before administering medications I ask them there NAME and DOB (Date Of Birth)!

You have given out far more and worse personal information here on
rfc, and it's all permanently archived in google groups, which includes
a search function free for all to use.

Anybody can see it, and use it. Your family, your employers, your
patients' parents, your tenants, your bank and all its employees.

Janet UK

On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 10:23:43 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:15:50 -0300, wrote:
>
>> There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
>> their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
>> call but all becomes clear now.
>>
>> https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>>
>> I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>
>You'll make up just any bullshit to hate Facebook.
>Whether you have your phone number to facebook or not has no bearing
>on if you receive unwanted calls for not. 7 digit numbers are
>pretty easy to guess. And that's exactly how they determine which
>numbers to call.
>
>You really just need step down off that pedestal you're preaching
>from and shut the **** up with all this off-topic "I hate facebook"
>bullshit.
>
>How do you explain that I get all sorts of unwanted calls and
>Facebook doesn't know my cell number? Yeah, you don't. Because
>you're dumber than the average facebooker.
>
>-sw

Wow, somebody sure turned your crank Mr Cranky.

On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 11:44:53 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 12:37:17 -0300, wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 10:23:43 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:15:50 -0300, wrote:
>>>
>>>> There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
>>>> their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
>>>> call but all becomes clear now.
>>>>
>>>> https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>>>>
>>>> I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>>>
>>>You'll make up just any bullshit to hate Facebook.
>>>Whether you have your phone number to facebook or not has no bearing
>>>on if you receive unwanted calls for not. 7 digit numbers are
>>>pretty easy to guess. And that's exactly how they determine which
>>>numbers to call.
>>>
>>>You really just need step down off that pedestal you're preaching
>>>from and shut the **** up with all this off-topic "I hate facebook"
>>>bullshit.
>>>
>>>How do you explain that I get all sorts of unwanted calls and
>>>Facebook doesn't know my cell number? Yeah, you don't. Because
>>>you're dumber than the average facebooker.
>>>
>>>-sw
>>
>> Wow, somebody sure turned your crank Mr Cranky.
>
>Who is it that's always posting how they hate Facebook out of the
>blue. You're trying to insult all of us who DO use facebook with
>all these far-fetched hare-brained bullshit.
>
>Phone numbers are free from thousands of sources. Not just from
>Facebook. You can GUESS them, duh.
>
>So, in closing, Blow Me.
>
>-sw

Also in closing, take me off the list for the cookery book. Wouldn't
want anything related to you!

In article >,
says...
>
> On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 11:44:53 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 12:37:17 -0300, wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 10:23:43 -0500, Sqwertz >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:15:50 -0300, wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
> >>>> their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
> >>>> call but all becomes clear now.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
> >>>>
> >>>> I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
> >>>
> >>>You'll make up just any bullshit to hate Facebook.
> >>>Whether you have your phone number to facebook or not has no bearing
> >>>on if you receive unwanted calls for not. 7 digit numbers are
> >>>pretty easy to guess. And that's exactly how they determine which
> >>>numbers to call.
> >>>
> >>>You really just need step down off that pedestal you're preaching
> >>>from and shut the **** up with all this off-topic "I hate facebook"
> >>>bullshit.
> >>>
> >>>How do you explain that I get all sorts of unwanted calls and
> >>>Facebook doesn't know my cell number? Yeah, you don't. Because
> >>>you're dumber than the average facebooker.
> >>>
> >>>-sw
> >>
> >> Wow, somebody sure turned your crank Mr Cranky.
> >
> >Who is it that's always posting how they hate Facebook out of the
> >blue. You're trying to insult all of us who DO use facebook with
> >all these far-fetched hare-brained bullshit.
> >
> >Phone numbers are free from thousands of sources. Not just from
> >Facebook. You can GUESS them, duh.
> >
> >So, in closing, Blow Me.
> >
> >-sw
>
> Also in closing, take me off the list for the cookery book. Wouldn't
> want anything related to you!
>
Do you want your salad tossed?

On 9/5/2019 9:09 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 8:17:24 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>> There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
>> their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
>> call but all becomes clear now.
>>
>> https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>>
>> I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>
> It's not the only answer. I've never been near FB and I get occasional
> unwanted calls on my cell phone. The calling number is generally the
> same exchange as my cell phone, to make it look like a local call.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Facebook is part of the problem but mostly they are auto-dialed calls.
The auto-dialer doesn't have a clue whether the number is a landline or
a cell phone or a fax machine or an old fashioned modem...

Jill

Cindy Hamilton > wrote:
> On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 8:17:24 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>> There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
>> their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
>> call but all becomes clear now.
>>
>> https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>>
>> I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>
> It's not the only answer. I've never been near FB and I get occasional
> unwanted calls on my cell phone. The calling number is generally the
> same exchange as my cell phone, to make it look like a local call.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Conversely, Im a huge FB user, and Ive never gotten unwanted calls from
unknowns on my cell phone. Ive had this same cell number for 22+ years,
so it isnt a new number for me, either.

On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:15:50 -0300, wrote:

>There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
>their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
>call but all becomes clear now.
>
>https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>
>I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!

There is nothing special about cellphones with regard to spammers
and scammers. They 'blind dial' and hope someone answers.

On 9/5/2019 3:20 PM, Still Bud wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:15:50 -0300, wrote:
>
>> There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
>> their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
>> call but all becomes clear now.
>>
>> https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>>
>> I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>
> There is nothing special about cellphones with regard to spammers
> and scammers. They 'blind dial' and hope someone answers.
>
They use an auto-dialer which makes no distinction as to the type of
phone. And they often spoof the number so it looks like a local call or
maybe even a call from someone you know. I don't have a cell phone but
I've actually gotten calls that show up on caller ID as me calling
*myself*. My name, my phone number. I just don't answer the damn phone.

Jill

On 16:23 5 Sep 2019, Sqwertz > wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:15:50 -0300, wrote:
>
>> There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
>> their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
>> call but all becomes clear now.
>>
>> https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>>
>> I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>
> You'll make up just any bullshit to hate Facebook.
> Whether you have your phone number to facebook or not has no bearing
> on if you receive unwanted calls for not. 7 digit numbers are
> pretty easy to guess. And that's exactly how they determine which
> numbers to call.
>
> You really just need step down off that pedestal you're preaching
> from and shut the **** up with all this off-topic "I hate facebook"
> bullshit.
>
> How do you explain that I get all sorts of unwanted calls and
> Facebook doesn't know my cell number? Yeah, you don't. Because
> you're dumber than the average facebooker.
>
> -sw

You overlook the current trend in which social media butterflies contact
their "number neighbour"?

On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 1:45:19 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>
> Facebook is part of the problem but mostly they are auto-dialed calls.
> The auto-dialer doesn't have a clue whether the number is a landline or
> a cell phone or a fax machine or an old fashioned modem...
>
> Jill
>
That's true. Computers can generate endless lists of every conceivable
combination of numbers, prefixes, and area codes then those numbers are
robotically called.

On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:15:50 -0300, wrote:

>There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
>their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
>call but all becomes clear now.
>
>https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>
>I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!

If only it was this simple.

On 9/5/2019 4:38 PM, wrote:
> On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 1:45:19 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Facebook is part of the problem but mostly they are auto-dialed calls.
>> The auto-dialer doesn't have a clue whether the number is a landline or
>> a cell phone or a fax machine or an old fashioned modem...
>>
>> Jill
>>
> That's true. Computers can generate endless lists of every conceivable
> combination of numbers, prefixes, and area codes then those numbers are
> robotically called.
>
Most of the calls I get automatically click off when they hit my
Answerphone. Sometimes I do get pre-recorded BS messages. It's easy
enough not to bother answering the phone. Some people just can't seem
to resist a ringing phone. (Or these days, a text message. Might be
important! Probably not.)

I've just recently had this conversation with my SO. He's one of those
people, if the phone rings you must answer it. I don't get it. Then he
bitches about getting telemarketing and/or robo calls. How about you
just ignore it if you don't recognize who is calling? If it turns out
to be someone you want to talk to or it's imporant, they'll leave voicemail.

Jill

On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 12:20:35 -0700, Still Bud >
wrote:

>On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:15:50 -0300, wrote:
>
>>There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
>>their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
>>call but all becomes clear now.
>>
>>https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>>
>>I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>
>There is nothing special about cellphones with regard to spammers
>and scammers. They 'blind dial' and hope someone answers.
>
>
>
Well I must have a lucky number then!

On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 21:04:49 +0100, Pamela wrote:

> On 16:23 5 Sep 2019, Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:15:50 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>> There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
>>> their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
>>> call but all becomes clear now.
>>>
>>> https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>>>
>>> I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>>
>> You'll make up just any bullshit to hate Facebook.
>> Whether you have your phone number to facebook or not has no bearing
>> on if you receive unwanted calls for not. 7 digit numbers are
>> pretty easy to guess. And that's exactly how they determine which
>> numbers to call.
>>
>> You really just need step down off that pedestal you're preaching
>> from and shut the **** up with all this off-topic "I hate facebook"
>> bullshit.
>>
>> How do you explain that I get all sorts of unwanted calls and
>> Facebook doesn't know my cell number? Yeah, you don't. Because
>> you're dumber than the average facebooker.
>>
>> -sw
>
> You overlook the current trend in which social media butterflies contact
> their "number neighbour"?

And you need steal a database of phone numbers from facebook to do
that?

On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 17:02:45 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 9/5/2019 4:38 PM, wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 1:45:19 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> Facebook is part of the problem but mostly they are auto-dialed calls.
>>> The auto-dialer doesn't have a clue whether the number is a landline or
>>> a cell phone or a fax machine or an old fashioned modem...
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>> That's true. Computers can generate endless lists of every conceivable
>> combination of numbers, prefixes, and area codes then those numbers are
>> robotically called.
>>
>Most of the calls I get automatically click off when they hit my
>Answerphone. Sometimes I do get pre-recorded BS messages. It's easy
>enough not to bother answering the phone. Some people just can't seem
>to resist a ringing phone. (Or these days, a text message. Might be
>important! Probably not.)

That depends - I do a lot of texting with the grandchildren and
greatgrandchildren, that's their accustomed way of communicating.
>
>I've just recently had this conversation with my SO. He's one of those
>people, if the phone rings you must answer it. I don't get it. Then he
>bitches about getting telemarketing and/or robo calls. How about you
>just ignore it if you don't recognize who is calling? If it turns out
>to be someone you want to talk to or it's imporant, they'll leave voicemail.
>
>Jill

On 22:32 5 Sep 2019, Brad Letourneau > wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 21:04:49 +0100, Pamela wrote:
>
>> On 16:23 5 Sep 2019, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:15:50 -0300, wrote:
>>>
>>>> There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls
>>>> on their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
>>>> call but all becomes clear now.
>>>>
>>>> https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>>>>
>>>> I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>>>
>>> You'll make up just any bullshit to hate Facebook. Whether you have
>>> your phone number to facebook or not has no bearing on if you receive
>>> unwanted calls for not. 7 digit numbers are pretty easy to guess. And
>>> that's exactly how they determine which numbers to call.
>>>
>>> You really just need step down off that pedestal you're preaching
>>> from and shut the **** up with all this off-topic "I hate facebook"
>>> bullshit.
>>>
>>> How do you explain that I get all sorts of unwanted calls and Facebook
>>> doesn't know my cell number? Yeah, you don't. Because you're dumber
>>> than the average facebooker.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> You overlook the current trend in which social media butterflies
>> contact their "number neighbour"?
>
> And you need steal a database of phone numbers from facebook to do that?

The starting point for "number neighbour" is essentially random and could be
stolen or known numbers.

The OP does not say her number was stolen but speculated it may have been.

On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 4:02:53 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>
> Most of the calls I get automatically click off when they hit my
> Answerphone. Sometimes I do get pre-recorded BS messages. It's easy
> enough not to bother answering the phone. Some people just can't seem
> to resist a ringing phone. (Or these days, a text message. Might be
> important! Probably not.)
>
> I've just recently had this conversation with my SO. He's one of those
> people, if the phone rings you must answer it. I don't get it. Then he
> bitches about getting telemarketing and/or robo calls. How about you
> just ignore it if you don't recognize who is calling? If it turns out
> to be someone you want to talk to or it's imporant, they'll leave voicemail.
>
> Jill
>
Not more than 30 seconds ago the phone rang and the caller id identified it
as "Police Support" with an unrecognizable area code. I've got these in the
past and I don't bother to answer. I immediately pressed the "Block Number"
button on that Pro Call Block device I have but these folks seem to have a
large bank of phone numbers to call from.

On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 15:21:02 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>>
>> On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 7:17:24 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>> > There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
>> > their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
>> > call but all becomes clear now.
>> >
>> > https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>> >
>> > I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>>
>> Yeah, I HAD a Face**** acct, but I DELETED IT!!! And like so many, I dutifully filled out a LOT of my personal information just because Face**** BAITED ME TO! Then one day I had a PIH Epiphany! I was GIVING OUT my Protected Health Information! I am a Registered Nurse, and to uniquely ID a patient before administering medications I ask them there NAME and DOB (Date Of Birth)!
>
> You have given out far more and worse personal information here on
>rfc, and it's all permanently archived in google groups, which includes
>a search function free for all to use.
>
>Anybody can see it, and use it. Your family, your employers, your
>patients' parents, your tenants, your bank and all its employees.

Saved me from having to mention this. There's not much information
about himself he hasn't willingly handed over to Google.

On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:15:50 -0300, wrote:

>There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
>their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
>call but all becomes clear now.
>
>https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>
>I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!

I really doubt that is a significant source for collecting phone
numbers. One major source is employees selling databases from telcos.

On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 07:13:33 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:15:50 -0300, wrote:
>
>>There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
>>their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
>>call but all becomes clear now.
>>
>>https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>>
>>I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>
>I really doubt that is a significant source for collecting phone
>numbers. One major source is employees selling databases from telcos.

All I know is, I don't get those calls. Back in land line days I got
a few but that was easily solved (then) by blocking the number that
called. They did bring in a Do Not Call list but I gather it was
worse if you subscribed to that.

On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 07:45:06 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 07:13:33 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:15:50 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
>>>their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
>>>call but all becomes clear now.
>>>
>>>https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>>>
>>>I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>>
>>I really doubt that is a significant source for collecting phone
>>numbers. One major source is employees selling databases from telcos.
>
>All I know is, I don't get those calls. Back in land line days I got
>a few but that was easily solved (then) by blocking the number that
>called. They did bring in a Do Not Call list but I gather it was
>worse if you subscribed to that.

I get an occasional one on my number, however they are now flagged as
suspect by the phone company so naturally I don't answer them. I
hardly ever make or receive phone calls the old way anymore anyway. I
use apps such as Line, Wechat and Messenger for most calls now.

On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 19:02:50 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 07:45:06 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 07:13:33 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>>https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>>>>
>>>>I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>>>
>>>I really doubt that is a significant source for collecting phone
>>>numbers. One major source is employees selling databases from telcos.
>>
>>All I know is, I don't get those calls. Back in land line days I got
>>a few but that was easily solved (then) by blocking the number that
>>called. They did bring in a Do Not Call list but I gather it was
>>worse if you subscribed to that.
>
>I get an occasional one on my number, however they are now flagged as
>suspect by the phone company so naturally I don't answer them. I
>hardly ever make or receive phone calls the old way anymore anyway. I
>use apps such as Line, Wechat and Messenger for most calls now.

Aren't you afraid that govco's spying on you through those channels?

On 2019-09-06 4:45 a.m., wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 07:13:33 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:15:50 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>> There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
>>> their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
>>> call but all becomes clear now.
>>>
>>> https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>>>
>>> I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>>
>> I really doubt that is a significant source for collecting phone
>> numbers. One major source is employees selling databases from telcos.
>
> All I know is, I don't get those calls. Back in land line days I got
> a few but that was easily solved (then) by blocking the number that
> called. They did bring in a Do Not Call list but I gather it was
> worse if you subscribed to that.
>
L, I'm not on Faecesbook either but I get a call from those robocallers
on almost a daily basis. I ignore them, having call display, and most
cut out after the 4th ring but occasionally they leave a message.
Recently, I had several messages from a Chinese woman, probably a tax
scam targeting elderly Chinese.

On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 22:10:35 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 19:02:50 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 07:45:06 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 07:13:33 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>>>https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>>>>>
>>>>>I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>>>>
>>>>I really doubt that is a significant source for collecting phone
>>>>numbers. One major source is employees selling databases from telcos.
>>>
>>>All I know is, I don't get those calls. Back in land line days I got
>>>a few but that was easily solved (then) by blocking the number that
>>>called. They did bring in a Do Not Call list but I gather it was
>>>worse if you subscribed to that.
>>
>>I get an occasional one on my number, however they are now flagged as
>>suspect by the phone company so naturally I don't answer them. I
>>hardly ever make or receive phone calls the old way anymore anyway. I
>>use apps such as Line, Wechat and Messenger for most calls now.
>
>Aren't you afraid that govco's spying on you through those channels?

Umm, no? Why would I care anyway?

On 9/5/2019 5:36 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 17:02:45 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/5/2019 4:38 PM, wrote:
>>> On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 1:45:19 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Facebook is part of the problem but mostly they are auto-dialed calls.
>>>> The auto-dialer doesn't have a clue whether the number is a landline or
>>>> a cell phone or a fax machine or an old fashioned modem...
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>> That's true. Computers can generate endless lists of every conceivable
>>> combination of numbers, prefixes, and area codes then those numbers are
>>> robotically called.
>>>
>> Most of the calls I get automatically click off when they hit my
>> Answerphone. Sometimes I do get pre-recorded BS messages. It's easy
>> enough not to bother answering the phone. Some people just can't seem
>> to resist a ringing phone. (Or these days, a text message. Might be
>> important! Probably not.)
>
> That depends - I do a lot of texting with the grandchildren and
> greatgrandchildren, that's their accustomed way of communicating.

I understand that. Surely you recognize texts from your grandchildren
and great grandchildren. It doesn't change how spammers and
telemarketers attempt to contact anyone (auto-dialers).

Jill

On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 06:21:27 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2019-09-06 4:45 a.m., wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 07:13:33 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:15:50 -0300, wrote:
>>>
>>>> There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
>>>> their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
>>>> call but all becomes clear now.
>>>>
>>>> https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>>>>
>>>> I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>>>
>>> I really doubt that is a significant source for collecting phone
>>> numbers. One major source is employees selling databases from telcos.
>>
>> All I know is, I don't get those calls. Back in land line days I got
>> a few but that was easily solved (then) by blocking the number that
>> called. They did bring in a Do Not Call list but I gather it was
>> worse if you subscribed to that.
>>
>L, I'm not on Faecesbook either but I get a call from those robocallers
>on almost a daily basis. I ignore them, having call display, and most
>cut out after the 4th ring but occasionally they leave a message.
>Recently, I had several messages from a Chinese woman, probably a tax
>scam targeting elderly Chinese.

Careful there Graham, squertz will come in swinging, calling Fools
Book Faecesbook lololol

On 2019-09-06 6:45 a.m., wrote:

>> I really doubt that is a significant source for collecting phone
>> numbers. One major source is employees selling databases from telcos.
>
> All I know is, I don't get those calls. Back in land line days I got
> a few but that was easily solved (then) by blocking the number that
> called. They did bring in a Do Not Call list but I gather it was
> worse if you subscribed to that.
>
]
The DNC registry has not been a total success, but it certainly is an
improvement. About the time the registry came out I was getting several
soliciting calls a day. After I registered the calls diminished. The
scammers are now calling from overseas and it seems to come in spurts.
Any calls I get now are fair game. If I am not up to much I will try to
keep them on the line as long as possible. I figure that the time I
keep them on the line is time they can't be hassling other people.
Maybe it is working because I haven't had any calls for a while.

On 9/5/2019 7:09 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> It's not the only answer. I've never been near FB and I get occasional
> unwanted calls on my cell phone. The calling number is generally the
> same exchange as my cell phone, to make it look like a local call.

Same here, but I usually answer local calls anyway, unless it's MY own
phone number.

I can always hang up, even after a
"live person" starts their drivel-laced spiel.

nb

On 9/5/2019 3:26 PM, wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 12:20:35 -0700, Still Bud >
> wrote:


>> There is nothing special about cellphones with regard to spammers
>> and scammers. They 'blind dial' and hope someone answers.

> Well I must have a lucky number then!

......or a "dumb" phone!

Mine is specially dumb. It's so bad (Doro flip-phone), in fact, I don't
even take it with me when I leave the house. Itsa piece'o junk.

nb

On 9/5/2019 6:13 PM, Je�us wrote:

> One major source is employees selling databases from telcos.
......or States!


B4 I left CA, I found my Long Beach birth certificate online. That
state (or whatever agency) had sold 'em to some heritage website. It
was a major gaffe by that state and was roundly condemned by
social-justice-warriors (SJW's). This all occurred about 15 yrs ago.

Never-the-less, I will no longer use my Mother's maiden name for
ANYTHING. I didn't even know how to spell it, before finding it online.


nb

notbob wrote:
> On 9/5/2019 3:26 PM, wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 12:20:35 -0700, Still Bud >
>> wrote:
>
>
>>> There is nothing special about cellphones with regard to spammers
>>> and scammers.* They 'blind dial' and hope someone answers.
>
>> Well I must have a lucky number then!
>
> .....or a "dumb" phone!
>
> Mine is specially dumb.* It's so bad (Doro flip-phone), in fact, I
> don't even take it with me when I leave the house.* Itsa piece'o
> junk.*
>
> nb

Is it worse than a "go phone"? That's what I have, but I only use it
once a month or so. No sense in buying an expensive toy; I would
never enjoy constantly fingering a telephone like most people do
these days.

On 2019-09-06 7:28 a.m., wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 06:21:27 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2019-09-06 4:45 a.m., wrote:
>>> On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 07:13:33 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:15:50 -0300, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
>>>>> their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
>>>>> call but all becomes clear now.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>>>>
>>>> I really doubt that is a significant source for collecting phone
>>>> numbers. One major source is employees selling databases from telcos.
>>>
>>> All I know is, I don't get those calls. Back in land line days I got
>>> a few but that was easily solved (then) by blocking the number that
>>> called. They did bring in a Do Not Call list but I gather it was
>>> worse if you subscribed to that.
>>>
>> L, I'm not on Faecesbook either but I get a call from those robocallers
>> on almost a daily basis. I ignore them, having call display, and most
>> cut out after the 4th ring but occasionally they leave a message.
>> Recently, I had several messages from a Chinese woman, probably a tax
>> scam targeting elderly Chinese.
>
> Careful there Graham, squertz will come in swinging, calling Fools
> Book Faecesbook lololol
>
I think I got the name from him except he missed out the "s".

On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 06:21:27 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2019-09-06 4:45 a.m., wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Sep 2019 07:13:33 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 09:15:50 -0300, wrote:
>>>
>>>> There was discussion on here about posters receiving unwanted calls on
>>>> their cell phones. I really wondered why I had never had a single
>>>> call but all becomes clear now.
>>>>
>>>> https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/04/fa...mbers-exposed/
>>>>
>>>> I have never been near FB so that would seem to be the answer!
>>>
>>> I really doubt that is a significant source for collecting phone
>>> numbers. One major source is employees selling databases from telcos.
>>
>> All I know is, I don't get those calls. Back in land line days I got
>> a few but that was easily solved (then) by blocking the number that
>> called. They did bring in a Do Not Call list but I gather it was
>> worse if you subscribed to that.
>>
>L, I'm not on Faecesbook either but I get a call from those robocallers
>on almost a daily basis. I ignore them, having call display, and most
>cut out after the 4th ring but occasionally they leave a message.
>Recently, I had several messages from a Chinese woman, probably a tax
>scam targeting elderly Chinese.

I seldom answer any call when I don't recognize the number,
but a few times I have, on my cell, and gotten the Chinese woman.
I just hang up.

On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 09:48:19 -0600, notbob > wrote:

>On 9/5/2019 7:09 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> It's not the only answer. I've never been near FB and I get occasional
>> unwanted calls on my cell phone. The calling number is generally the
>> same exchange as my cell phone, to make it look like a local call.
>
>Same here, but I usually answer local calls anyway, unless it's MY own
>phone number.

There WAS a time when a 'local' call WAS really local.
But now, with cells and spoofing, you have no idea where
a call is coming from.

On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 12:08:15 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

>notbob wrote:
>> On 9/5/2019 3:26 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 12:20:35 -0700, Still Bud >
>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> There is nothing special about cellphones with regard to spammers
>>>> and scammers.* They 'blind dial' and hope someone answers.
>>
>>> Well I must have a lucky number then!
>>
>> .....or a "dumb" phone!
>>
>> Mine is specially dumb.* It's so bad (Doro flip-phone), in fact, I
>> don't even take it with me when I leave the house.* Itsa piece'o
>> junk.*
>>
>> nb
>
>Is it worse than a "go phone"? That's what I have, but I only use it
>once a month or so. No sense in buying an expensive toy; I would
>never enjoy constantly fingering a telephone like most people do
>these days.

I have a nice cell, and I use it for critical things, like the VA (all
my medical stuff), and more. It WILL still work if the internet or
power is out, I can set it to DND when I don't want to be bothered,
and some things (Uber) require it for service.

I dod research, and got a great one from Amazon, and for less than
$200, wheich works easily as well as a friend's Galaxy S9, which
cost him almost $900.

I also have a powerbank that can run the phone for 5 days or more
before needing a recharge.

On 9/6/2019 1:18 PM, Still Bud wrote:

> There WAS a time when a 'local' call WAS really local.
> But now, with cells and spoofing, you have no idea where
> a call is coming from.

Yep!

nb