Â* The vendor I was getting my flour from has changed their business
model , and they don't want to bother stocking bulk supplies like the
former owners did . They don't even want to order it for me any more ,
so screw 'em . UPS just delivered a 50 lb bag of my favorite , Seal of
Minnesota unbleached baking flour . Cost me over a buck a pound , but
worth it - it's about 50% more expensive than I was paying at the vendor
, but if the product is unfit - or barely fit- to eat it doesn't matter
how much I saved at Walmart buying AP flour . I did figger out it is the
protein/gluten percentage that made the difference . At any rate , I'm
back to using the flour that made the best bread I ever baked .
According to what I've been reading , the other stuff might be OK for
pie crusts , pizza , etc , stuff that doesn't need to rise much . We
shall see , cuz I ain't tossin' it if I can use it . If nothing else ,
it'll thicken gravy ...

--
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Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

On 2019-04-08 3:07 p.m., Terry Coombs wrote:
> Â* The vendor I was getting my flour from has changed their business
> model , and they don't want to bother stocking bulk supplies like the
> former owners did . They don't even want to order it for me any more ,
> so screw 'em . UPS just delivered a 50 lb bag of my favorite , Seal of
> Minnesota unbleached baking flour . Cost me over a buck a pound , but
> worth it - it's about 50% more expensive than I was paying at the vendor
> , but if the product is unfit - or barely fit- to eat it doesn't matter
> how much I saved at Walmart buying AP flour . I did figger out it is the
> protein/gluten percentage that made the difference . At any rate , I'm
> back to using the flour that made the best bread I ever baked .
> According to what I've been reading , the other stuff might be OK for
> pie crusts , pizza , etc , stuff that doesn't need to rise much . We
> shall see , cuz I ain't tossin' it if I can use it . If nothing else ,
> it'll thicken gravy ...
>
I once bought a different brand of bakers' flour than usual from the
wholesaler. After a few poor loaves I gave the rest of the bag (had been
20kg) to someone with a breadmaker where it worked OK.
Last year I bought some flour milled from Red Fife wheat, a heritage
grain related to the US Turkey Red. Despite repeated attempts and
changes in recipe, I couldn't produce a decent loaf so I won't bother
with that again.

On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 16:07:45 -0500, Terry Coombs >
wrote:

> * The vendor I was getting my flour from has changed their business
>model , and they don't want to bother stocking bulk supplies like the
>former owners did . They don't even want to order it for me any more ,
>so screw 'em . UPS just delivered a 50 lb bag of my favorite , Seal of
>Minnesota unbleached baking flour . Cost me over a buck a pound , but
>worth it - it's about 50% more expensive than I was paying at the vendor
>, but if the product is unfit - or barely fit- to eat it doesn't matter
>how much I saved at Walmart buying AP flour . I did figger out it is the
>protein/gluten percentage that made the difference . At any rate , I'm
>back to using the flour that made the best bread I ever baked .
>According to what I've been reading , the other stuff might be OK for
>pie crusts , pizza , etc , stuff that doesn't need to rise much . We
>shall see , cuz I ain't tossin' it if I can use it . If nothing else ,
>it'll thicken gravy ...

I hear you! I've got 20 pounds of flour that is going into the trash
this week. I've made 3 different batches of the same bread with this
flour and every time the crumb turned out coarse. I want silky crumb.
I'll go back to Cash and Carry one more time to see if they have the
bread flour that they used to carry, otherwise I will go to my food
co-op and pay more but get some good stuff from the bulk containers.
Janet US

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:29:27 AM UTC-7, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 16:07:45 -0500, Terry Coombs >
> wrote:
>
> > Â* The vendor I was getting my flour from has changed their business
> >model , and they don't want to bother stocking bulk supplies like the
> >former owners did . They don't even want to order it for me any more ,
> >so screw 'em . UPS just delivered a 50 lb bag of my favorite , Seal of
> >Minnesota unbleached baking flour . Cost me over a buck a pound , but
> >worth it - it's about 50% more expensive than I was paying at the vendor
> >, but if the product is unfit - or barely fit- to eat it doesn't matter
> >how much I saved at Walmart buying AP flour . I did figger out it is the
> >protein/gluten percentage that made the difference . At any rate , I'm
> >back to using the flour that made the best bread I ever baked .
> >According to what I've been reading , the other stuff might be OK for
> >pie crusts , pizza , etc , stuff that doesn't need to rise much . We
> >shall see , cuz I ain't tossin' it if I can use it . If nothing else ,
> >it'll thicken gravy ...
>
> I hear you! I've got 20 pounds of flour that is going into the trash
> this week. I've made 3 different batches of the same bread with this
> flour and every time the crumb turned out coarse. I want silky crumb.
> I'll go back to Cash and Carry one more time to see if they have the
> bread flour that they used to carry, otherwise I will go to my food
> co-op and pay more but get some good stuff from the bulk containers.
> Janet US

Don't throw out the flour. Donate it to a soup kitchen or a food bank or someone who could use it. Don't waste good food.

On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 11:51:50 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:29:27 AM UTC-7, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 16:07:45 -0500, Terry Coombs >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > * The vendor I was getting my flour from has changed their business
>> >model , and they don't want to bother stocking bulk supplies like the
>> >former owners did . They don't even want to order it for me any more ,
>> >so screw 'em . UPS just delivered a 50 lb bag of my favorite , Seal of
>> >Minnesota unbleached baking flour . Cost me over a buck a pound , but
>> >worth it - it's about 50% more expensive than I was paying at the vendor
>> >, but if the product is unfit - or barely fit- to eat it doesn't matter
>> >how much I saved at Walmart buying AP flour . I did figger out it is the
>> >protein/gluten percentage that made the difference . At any rate , I'm
>> >back to using the flour that made the best bread I ever baked .
>> >According to what I've been reading , the other stuff might be OK for
>> >pie crusts , pizza , etc , stuff that doesn't need to rise much . We
>> >shall see , cuz I ain't tossin' it if I can use it . If nothing else ,
>> >it'll thicken gravy ...
>>
>> I hear you! I've got 20 pounds of flour that is going into the trash
>> this week. I've made 3 different batches of the same bread with this
>> flour and every time the crumb turned out coarse. I want silky crumb.
>> I'll go back to Cash and Carry one more time to see if they have the
>> bread flour that they used to carry, otherwise I will go to my food
>> co-op and pay more but get some good stuff from the bulk containers.
>> Janet US
>
>Don't throw out the flour. Donate it to a soup kitchen or a food bank or someone who could use it. Don't waste good food.

No one is going to accept an opened container.
All my life I gave good space to some crap stuff. I'm not doing it
any longer.

On 2019-04-09, ImStillMags > wrote:

> Don't throw out the flour. Donate it to a soup kitchen or a food
> bank or someone who could use it. Don't waste good food.

While I can agree with yer plea, I've already seen it in reverse. A
plea from the "free kitchens" to only provide canned prepared food! I
read 'em a new asshole on that one.

Like canned chili or canned beans/canned veggies/fruits. IOW, they
didn't wanna hafta cook it! Yeah, like I'm gonna give you better than
what I'm eating.

nb

On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 9:28:23 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
> On 2019-04-09, ImStillMags > wrote:
>
> > Don't throw out the flour. Donate it to a soup kitchen or a food
> > bank or someone who could use it. Don't waste good food.
>
> While I can agree with yer plea, I've already seen it in reverse. A
> plea from the "free kitchens" to only provide canned prepared food! I
> read 'em a new asshole on that one.
>
> Like canned chili or canned beans/canned veggies/fruits. IOW, they
> didn't wanna hafta cook it! Yeah, like I'm gonna give you better than
> what I'm eating.
>
> nb

1. Canned foods are safer than fresh foods. They store well. An open, partially used bag of flour could have a variety of contaminants in it.

2. Canned foods can be prepared and eating by a person who lacks a full kitchen

3. Canned foods are not better than what you're eating, if you're eating
fresh foods.

Cindy Hamilton

On 4/9/2019 11:29 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 16:07:45 -0500, Terry Coombs >
> wrote:
>
>> Â* The vendor I was getting my flour from has changed their business
>> model , and they don't want to bother stocking bulk supplies like the
>> former owners did . They don't even want to order it for me any more ,
>> so screw 'em . UPS just delivered a 50 lb bag of my favorite , Seal of
>> Minnesota unbleached baking flour . Cost me over a buck a pound , but
>> worth it - it's about 50% more expensive than I was paying at the vendor
>> , but if the product is unfit - or barely fit- to eat it doesn't matter
>> how much I saved at Walmart buying AP flour . I did figger out it is the
>> protein/gluten percentage that made the difference . At any rate , I'm
>> back to using the flour that made the best bread I ever baked .
>> According to what I've been reading , the other stuff might be OK for
>> pie crusts , pizza , etc , stuff that doesn't need to rise much . We
>> shall see , cuz I ain't tossin' it if I can use it . If nothing else ,
>> it'll thicken gravy ...
> I hear you! I've got 20 pounds of flour that is going into the trash
> this week. I've made 3 different batches of the same bread with this
> flour and every time the crumb turned out coarse. I want silky crumb.
> I'll go back to Cash and Carry one more time to see if they have the
> bread flour that they used to carry, otherwise I will go to my food
> co-op and pay more but get some good stuff from the bulk containers.
> Janet US

Â* That not-good-for-bread flour works just fine for thickening sauces .
Did just swell in the shrimp scampi we had for dinner last night .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 15:28:33 -0500, Terry Coombs >
wrote:

>On 4/9/2019 11:29 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 16:07:45 -0500, Terry Coombs >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> * The vendor I was getting my flour from has changed their business
>>> model , and they don't want to bother stocking bulk supplies like the
>>> former owners did . They don't even want to order it for me any more ,
>>> so screw 'em . UPS just delivered a 50 lb bag of my favorite , Seal of
>>> Minnesota unbleached baking flour . Cost me over a buck a pound , but
>>> worth it - it's about 50% more expensive than I was paying at the vendor
>>> , but if the product is unfit - or barely fit- to eat it doesn't matter
>>> how much I saved at Walmart buying AP flour . I did figger out it is the
>>> protein/gluten percentage that made the difference . At any rate , I'm
>>> back to using the flour that made the best bread I ever baked .
>>> According to what I've been reading , the other stuff might be OK for
>>> pie crusts , pizza , etc , stuff that doesn't need to rise much . We
>>> shall see , cuz I ain't tossin' it if I can use it . If nothing else ,
>>> it'll thicken gravy ...
>> I hear you! I've got 20 pounds of flour that is going into the trash
>> this week. I've made 3 different batches of the same bread with this
>> flour and every time the crumb turned out coarse. I want silky crumb.
>> I'll go back to Cash and Carry one more time to see if they have the
>> bread flour that they used to carry, otherwise I will go to my food
>> co-op and pay more but get some good stuff from the bulk containers.
>> Janet US
>
> * That not-good-for-bread flour works just fine for thickening sauces .
>Did just swell in the shrimp scampi we had for dinner last night .

I have all purpose flour for uses other than making bread.

On 4/9/2019 5:36 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 15:28:33 -0500, Terry Coombs >
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/9/2019 11:29 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 16:07:45 -0500, Terry Coombs >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Â* The vendor I was getting my flour from has changed their business
>>>> model , and they don't want to bother stocking bulk supplies like the
>>>> former owners did . They don't even want to order it for me any more ,
>>>> so screw 'em . UPS just delivered a 50 lb bag of my favorite , Seal of
>>>> Minnesota unbleached baking flour . Cost me over a buck a pound , but
>>>> worth it - it's about 50% more expensive than I was paying at the vendor
>>>> , but if the product is unfit - or barely fit- to eat it doesn't matter
>>>> how much I saved at Walmart buying AP flour . I did figger out it is the
>>>> protein/gluten percentage that made the difference . At any rate , I'm
>>>> back to using the flour that made the best bread I ever baked .
>>>> According to what I've been reading , the other stuff might be OK for
>>>> pie crusts , pizza , etc , stuff that doesn't need to rise much . We
>>>> shall see , cuz I ain't tossin' it if I can use it . If nothing else ,
>>>> it'll thicken gravy ...
>>> I hear you! I've got 20 pounds of flour that is going into the trash
>>> this week. I've made 3 different batches of the same bread with this
>>> flour and every time the crumb turned out coarse. I want silky crumb.
>>> I'll go back to Cash and Carry one more time to see if they have the
>>> bread flour that they used to carry, otherwise I will go to my food
>>> co-op and pay more but get some good stuff from the bulk containers.
>>> Janet US
>> Â* That not-good-for-bread flour works just fine for thickening sauces .
>> Did just swell in the shrimp scampi we had for dinner last night .
> I have all purpose flour for uses other than making bread.

Â* I do too ... now .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !