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Ed Pawlowski[_5_] 10-02-2019 07:10 PM

what's with peanuts?
 
On 2/10/2019 12:18 PM, Pamela wrote:


I agree. A barbeque can be fun but it rarely produces better food than
cooked indoors.


Better is just opinion. Both can produce excellent food and they are
different.

Bruce[_28_] 10-02-2019 07:12 PM

what's with peanuts?
 
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 14:10:03 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/10/2019 12:18 PM, Pamela wrote:


I agree. A barbeque can be fun but it rarely produces better food than
cooked indoors.


Better is just opinion. Both can produce excellent food and they are
different.


Excellent is also opinion.

Dave Smith[_1_] 10-02-2019 07:48 PM

what's with peanuts?
 
On 2019-02-10 2:10 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/10/2019 12:18 PM, Pamela wrote:


I agree.* A barbeque can be fun but it rarely produces better food than
cooked indoors.


Better is just opinion.* Both can produce excellent food and they are
different.


We cook on the gas BBQ almost exclusively from May through to September
and usually have excellent meals.


Dave Smith[_1_] 10-02-2019 09:15 PM

what's with peanuts?
 
On 2019-02-10 3:45 p.m., Pamela wrote:
On 19:10 10 Feb 2019, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/10/2019 12:18 PM, Pamela wrote:


I agree. A barbeque can be fun but it rarely produces better food than
cooked indoors.


Better is just opinion. Both can produce excellent food and they are
different.


Many people enjoy a BBQ but, in my experience, they are fooling themselves
if they think they're getting better tasting food.


Really?? They are fooling themselves if the think the food is better?
That's one of the dumbest things you have said here.

Bruce[_28_] 10-02-2019 09:23 PM

what's with peanuts?
 
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 16:15:52 -0500, Dave Smith
wrote:

On 2019-02-10 3:45 p.m., Pamela wrote:
On 19:10 10 Feb 2019, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/10/2019 12:18 PM, Pamela wrote:


I agree. A barbeque can be fun but it rarely produces better food than
cooked indoors.


Better is just opinion. Both can produce excellent food and they are
different.


Many people enjoy a BBQ but, in my experience, they are fooling themselves
if they think they're getting better tasting food.


Really?? They are fooling themselves if the think the food is better?
That's one of the dumbest things you have said here.


No, he has a point. Men like to muck around with fire, especially in
the wild and woolly environment that is the suburban backyard. But
whether they cook the food well is another matter, especially if
they're barbeklutzing in a beer fog.

Hank Rogers[_2_] 10-02-2019 09:28 PM

what's with peanuts?
 
Pamela wrote:
On 19:10 10 Feb 2019, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/10/2019 12:18 PM, Pamela wrote:


I agree. A barbeque can be fun but it rarely produces better food than
cooked indoors.


Better is just opinion. Both can produce excellent food and they are
different.


Many people enjoy a BBQ but, in my experience, they are fooling themselves
if they think they're getting better tasting food.

Maybe the event, the commotion, the smoke, the inevitable alcohol, the
socialising, perhaps a pool, the outdoors air, etc takes their mind off
the sometimes indifferent, and perhaps not well cooked, food.

I have had some good BBQs but the taste of the same food would very often be
better, in absolute terms, cooked in a kitchen.

No one would say the actual food at a picnic is better than at a dining
table but the event and its setting probably compensates. Same for a BBQ.


Probably true. I know lots of guys that proudly make bbq that is waay
too smoked. Tastes like drippings from an old stove pipe of a wood
burning stove. With smoke, more is not always better.

Some do get it just right, and if they also got a decent piece of meat
to begin with, it can be excellent.







Ed Pawlowski 10-02-2019 09:40 PM

what's with peanuts?
 
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 20:45:57 GMT, Pamela
wrote:



Many people enjoy a BBQ but, in my experience, they are fooling themselves
if they think they're getting better tasting food.

Maybe the event, the commotion, the smoke, the inevitable alcohol, the
socialising, perhaps a pool, the outdoors air, etc takes their mind off
the sometimes indifferent, and perhaps not well cooked, food.

I have had some good BBQs but the taste of the same food would very often be
better, in absolute terms, cooked in a kitchen.


Perhaps you've only had mediocre foods. If you try a nicely cooked
Spatchcocked chicken or a rib eye on the rotisseries or brisket from
the smoker you may see some foods can be better.

Even a natural casing hot dog is better off the grill than anything
you can do in the house.

Again, many other things are just personal preference. You can make
excellent corn on the cob in the microwave, but the corn off the grill
is very different. You may prefer one over the other.

[email protected] 10-02-2019 09:41 PM

what's with peanuts?
 
On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 06:12:05 +1100, Bruce
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 14:10:03 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/10/2019 12:18 PM, Pamela wrote:


I agree. A barbeque can be fun but it rarely produces better food than
cooked indoors.


Better is just opinion. Both can produce excellent food and they are
different.


Excellent is also opinion.


More than anything how food turns out is up to the one who actually
cooks it... a steak doesn't give a rat's ass whether it's cooked
indoors or outdoors. An awful lot of so-called celebrity chefs have
proven to me many times that they can't cook a lick. With 99% of
those FoodTV chefs if not for their kitchen crew behind the scenes
they couldn't operate a roach coach. As soon as I see how they handle
cutlery I know they don't belong in a kitchen... I've seen no more
than two who can carve a roast... Yan and Pepin are the only two who
know to handle cutlery... I'd say Martin Yan is a far better cook....
I owned a 5 star eatery I'd rather employ one Martin Yan than ten
Pepins.

Bruce[_28_] 10-02-2019 09:44 PM

what's with peanuts?
 
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 16:41:38 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 06:12:05 +1100, Bruce
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 14:10:03 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Better is just opinion. Both can produce excellent food and they are
different.


Excellent is also opinion.


More than anything how food turns out is up to the one who actually
cooks it... a steak doesn't give a rat's ass whether it's cooked
indoors or outdoors. An awful lot of so-called celebrity chefs have
proven to me many times that they can't cook a lick. With 99% of
those FoodTV chefs if not for their kitchen crew behind the scenes
they couldn't operate a roach coach. As soon as I see how they handle
cutlery I know they don't belong in a kitchen... I've seen no more
than two who can carve a roast... Yan and Pepin are the only two who
know to handle cutlery... I'd say Martin Yan is a far better cook....
I owned a 5 star eatery I'd rather employ one Martin Yan than ten
Pepins.


How do you compare a Chinese chef to a French chef? I think they're
both very good at their respective cuisine.

[email protected] 10-02-2019 09:53 PM

what's with peanuts?
 
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 14:48:21 -0500, Dave Smith
wrote:

On 2019-02-10 2:10 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/10/2019 12:18 PM, Pamela wrote:


I agree.* A barbeque can be fun but it rarely produces better food than
cooked indoors.


Better is just opinion.* Both can produce excellent food and they are
different.


We cook on the gas BBQ almost exclusively from May through to September
and usually have excellent meals.


TIAD doesn't give a rat's ass where one cooks... and to date no one
here has seen anything you've claimed to have cooked. I'm positive
that there is no big niece, big niece is your spouce, you and big
niece live on fast food drive thru.,,, so long as you two bar hopping
o'beasties are happy.

Hank Rogers[_2_] 10-02-2019 09:56 PM

what's with peanuts?
 
Bruce wrote:
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 16:41:38 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 06:12:05 +1100, Bruce
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 14:10:03 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Better is just opinion. Both can produce excellent food and they are
different.

Excellent is also opinion.


More than anything how food turns out is up to the one who actually
cooks it... a steak doesn't give a rat's ass whether it's cooked
indoors or outdoors. An awful lot of so-called celebrity chefs have
proven to me many times that they can't cook a lick. With 99% of
those FoodTV chefs if not for their kitchen crew behind the scenes
they couldn't operate a roach coach. As soon as I see how they handle
cutlery I know they don't belong in a kitchen... I've seen no more
than two who can carve a roast... Yan and Pepin are the only two who
know to handle cutlery... I'd say Martin Yan is a far better cook....
I owned a 5 star eatery I'd rather employ one Martin Yan than ten
Pepins.


How do you compare a Chinese chef to a French chef? I think they're
both very good at their respective cuisine.


Doesn't matter. The strongest man in the world is the only one that can
cook. All others are liars and faggots ... especially the french. Right
Popeye?



Hank Rogers[_2_] 10-02-2019 10:39 PM

what's with peanuts?
 
Pamela wrote:
On 21:40 10 Feb 2019, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 20:45:57 GMT, Pamela
wrote:



Many people enjoy a BBQ but, in my experience, they are fooling
themselves if they think they're getting better tasting food.

Maybe the event, the commotion, the smoke, the inevitable alcohol, the
socialising, perhaps a pool, the outdoors air, etc takes their mind off
the sometimes indifferent, and perhaps not well cooked, food.

I have had some good BBQs but the taste of the same food would very
often be better, in absolute terms, cooked in a kitchen.


Perhaps you've only had mediocre foods. If you try a nicely cooked
Spatchcocked chicken or a rib eye on the rotisseries or brisket from
the smoker you may see some foods can be better.

Even a natural casing hot dog is better off the grill than anything
you can do in the house.

Again, many other things are just personal preference. You can make
excellent corn on the cob in the microwave, but the corn off the grill
is very different. You may prefer one over the other.


I have had some good BBQ food but it is not as common as I would like.
Usually there is either undercooked or burnt meat arriving in an ad-hoc way.
Side dishes are chosen as an expediency rather than matched to the grill
meat. Quantities are variable and actual cooking quality is hit and miss.

It's all jolly knockabout stuff, especially if you have a liking for camping,
and it can be a great fun event -- but not for its high class cuisine.

All this would be okay except for those BBQ enthusiasts, who have bought all
the fancy equipment and comandeer the event, who genuinely and sincerely
assure you its the best food you will ever taste. Ha!


You're right about the side dishes ... often crap like canned pork and
beans, sometimes potato salad, and don't forget the disgusting gummy
white buns or rolls. :)

I guess the meat and beer is supposed to be the main attraction.
Sometimes I get lucky when someone makes some really good potato salad.

One thing you forgot; in addition to undercooked stuff, there is also
the occasional tough or stringy meat, usually but not always caused by
bargain meat.

Even so, it can still be fun if you enjoy the company. Not every meal
needs to be the King's vittles.





jmcquown[_2_] 10-02-2019 11:43 PM

what's with peanuts?
 
On 2/10/2019 1:17 PM, Gary wrote:
wrote:

It's been many years since I roasted a chicken whole. I
like to remove the backbone anyway, don't need spinal fluid flavoring.
I like to remove the rib bones too, easy to pull out cleanly with a
paper towel.


What a baby you are. You don't even deserve to be allowed to
cook/eat a chicken.

For some reason I thought he was the guy who always chided people for
*not* roasting a whole chicken. Maybe I'm confused. I know he's
chastised people for not buying and cutting up a whole chicken rather
than buying the parts they want. I know how to cut up a chicken, I just
don't care to do it when all I want is the thighs and drumsticks. :)

Jill

Hank Rogers[_2_] 11-02-2019 12:05 AM

what's with peanuts?
 
jmcquown wrote:
On 2/10/2019 1:17 PM, Gary wrote:
wrote:

It's been many years since I roasted a chicken whole. I
like to remove the backbone anyway, don't need spinal fluid flavoring.
I like to remove the rib bones too, easy to pull out cleanly with a
paper towel.


What a baby you are. You don't even deserve to be allowed to
cook/eat a chicken.

For some reason I thought he was the guy who always chided people for
*not* roasting a whole chicken.

Jill


A chicken? Hell, he wouldn't cook lass than 100 lb of chicken at a time
.... and they better be at least 5 lb per bird.





[email protected] 11-02-2019 12:21 AM

what's with peanuts?
 
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 20:45:57 GMT, Pamela
wrote:

On 19:10 10 Feb 2019, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/10/2019 12:18 PM, Pamela wrote:


I agree. A barbeque can be fun but it rarely produces better food than
cooked indoors.


Better is just opinion. Both can produce excellent food and they are
different.


Many people enjoy a BBQ but, in my experience, they are fooling themselves
if they think they're getting better tasting food.

Maybe the event, the commotion, the smoke, the inevitable alcohol, the
socialising, perhaps a pool, the outdoors air, etc takes their mind off
the sometimes indifferent, and perhaps not well cooked, food.

I have had some good BBQs but the taste of the same food would very often be
better, in absolute terms, cooked in a kitchen.

No one would say the actual food at a picnic is better than at a dining
table but the event and its setting probably compensates. Same for a BBQ.


I must agree. Most who host outdoor BBQs turn out crap... no better
than an upstate NY churchy FEED. Most times the main event is cheap
bologna sandwiches on white bread with yallow mustard.


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