On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 04:22:57 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 5:46:16 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-12-08 5:08 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> > Dave Smith wrote:
>> >
>>
>> >> FWIW.... there are minimum wages for servers here. It is lower for
>> >> those serving alcohol, but it currently $12.20 /hr here.
>> >
>> > A waitress may only make 1.25 an hour and be expected to 'make of the
>> > rest in tips' which she then has to split with the cook and bus boy
>> > (cook and busboy make over minimum wage already).
>> >
>>
>> I remain perplexed by the attitudes that I see being expressed here.
>> People feel obliged to leave a tip that is based on a percentage of the
>> cost of their meal and drinks, some claiming to tip 30% or more, but
>> reject the suggestion that the price of service being included in the
>> meal. They prefer to pay a percentage of their bill as a voluntary
>> gratuity to having a smaller amount added to the menu price.
>
>Sorry? I believe I'm the only person here who claims to tip 30% or
>more. When have I ever said I was opposed to a decent wage for waitstaff?
>
>However, many places that have tried that have rescinded it due to complaints
>on the part of their employees, because it reduced their actual compensation.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Ditto - I feel I am making up for their low wages!