On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 20:13:48 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:

>
>On 4-Dec-2018, U.S. Janet B. > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 10:24:21 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I bought some oxtails yesterday. Even though winter weather isn't
>> >really upon us in southern SC, I love oxtail soup.
>> >
>> >I've made it many times before but I'm just wondering if you have a
>> >particular tried and true recipe you adore. If so, please share it!
>> >
>> >Jill
>>
>> You must be rolling in dough or are they a lot less expensive there?
>I was just looking at them at the international grocer's on Friday; they
>were $6.99/lb here in STL suburb. I have looked on several previous
>occasions and don't recall they were ever over $7.99. However, many things
>I see at the international grocer are much less expensive than at regular
>supermarkets; I assume the sell well vs. being "specialty" items elsewhere.

my problem is that I began making this soup when oxtails were
practically free. So the $6.99/# shocks me :-(

On Tue, 04 Dec 2018 13:21:48 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 20:13:48 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
>
>>
>>On 4-Dec-2018, U.S. Janet B. > wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 10:24:21 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I bought some oxtails yesterday. Even though winter weather isn't
>>> >really upon us in southern SC, I love oxtail soup.
>>> >
>>> >I've made it many times before but I'm just wondering if you have a
>>> >particular tried and true recipe you adore. If so, please share it!
>>> >
>>> >Jill
>>>
>>> You must be rolling in dough or are they a lot less expensive there?
>>I was just looking at them at the international grocer's on Friday; they
>>were $6.99/lb here in STL suburb. I have looked on several previous
>>occasions and don't recall they were ever over $7.99. However, many things
>>I see at the international grocer are much less expensive than at regular
>>supermarkets; I assume the sell well vs. being "specialty" items elsewhere.
>
>my problem is that I began making this soup when oxtails were
>practically free. So the $6.99/# shocks me :-(

Ditto - they weren't supposed to be specialty, just a way to use up
the tails.

On 12/4/2018 3:21 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 20:13:48 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:
>
>>
>> On 4-Dec-2018, U.S. Janet B. > wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 10:24:21 -0500, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I bought some oxtails yesterday. Even though winter weather isn't
>>>> really upon us in southern SC, I love oxtail soup.
>>>>
>>>> I've made it many times before but I'm just wondering if you have a
>>>> particular tried and true recipe you adore. If so, please share it!
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> You must be rolling in dough or are they a lot less expensive there?
>> I was just looking at them at the international grocer's on Friday; they
>> were $6.99/lb here in STL suburb. I have looked on several previous
>> occasions and don't recall they were ever over $7.99. However, many things
>> I see at the international grocer are much less expensive than at regular
>> supermarkets; I assume the sell well vs. being "specialty" items elsewhere.
>
> my problem is that I began making this soup when oxtails were
> practically free. So the $6.99/# shocks me :-(
>
Flank steak and chicken wings used to be dirt cheap and beef bones were
free. I paid $6.99/lb but the three tails are nice and meaty. I'll get
several meals (which I can freeze) out of the oxtail stew.

Jill

On 2018-12-04 5:12 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> Flank steak and chicken wings used to be dirt cheap and beef bones were
> free.Â* I paid $6.99/lb but the three tails are nice and meaty.Â* I'll get
> several meals (which I can freeze) out of the oxtail stew.
>

I am very picky when it comes to oxtails. They have to be on sale cheap,
and there has to be a lot of meat on the bones. It is bad enough to be
charged steak prices for a cut of meat that requires so much work to
make it tender and tasty, but I especially dislike paying that much for
bones.

On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 18:38:44 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-12-04 5:12 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Flank steak and chicken wings used to be dirt cheap and beef bones were
>> free.* I paid $6.99/lb but the three tails are nice and meaty.* I'll get
>> several meals (which I can freeze) out of the oxtail stew.
>>
>
>I am very picky when it comes to oxtails. They have to be on sale cheap,
>and there has to be a lot of meat on the bones. It is bad enough to be
>charged steak prices for a cut of meat that requires so much work to
>make it tender and tasty, but I especially dislike paying that much for
>bones.

Chances are they're cow tails, not oxtails

On Tue, 04 Dec 2018 19:22:42 -0500, wrote:
snip
>Chances are they're cow tails, not oxtails

Duh! Everybody knows that! It's just what they are called.

On Tue, 04 Dec 2018 17:36:23 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Tue, 04 Dec 2018 19:22:42 -0500, wrote:
>snip
>>Chances are they're cow tails, not oxtails
>
>Duh! Everybody knows that! It's just what they are called.

Lol - in fact nicer if they called them cow tails

On 12/4/2018 7:50 PM, wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Dec 2018 17:36:23 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 04 Dec 2018 19:22:42 -0500, wrote:
>> snip
>>> Chances are they're cow tails, not oxtails
>>
>> Duh! Everybody knows that! It's just what they are called.
>
> Lol - in fact nicer if they called them cow tails
>
Who cares what they're called? They taste great and make a nice tasting
beefy stew.

Jill

On Tue, 04 Dec 2018 20:50:31 -0400, wrote:

>On Tue, 04 Dec 2018 17:36:23 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 04 Dec 2018 19:22:42 -0500, wrote:
>>snip
>>>Chances are they're cow tails, not oxtails
>>
>>Duh! Everybody knows that! It's just what they are called.
>
>Lol - in fact nicer if they called them cow tails

Do you prefer to eat females?

On 12/4/2018 7:22 PM, wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 18:38:44 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2018-12-04 5:12 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Flank steak and chicken wings used to be dirt cheap and beef bones were
>>> free.Â* I paid $6.99/lb but the three tails are nice and meaty.Â* I'll get
>>> several meals (which I can freeze) out of the oxtail stew.
>>>
>>
>> I am very picky when it comes to oxtails. They have to be on sale cheap,
>> and there has to be a lot of meat on the bones. It is bad enough to be
>> charged steak prices for a cut of meat that requires so much work to
>> make it tender and tasty, but I especially dislike paying that much for
>> bones.
>
> Chances are they're cow tails, not oxtails
>
We all know that since oxen haven't been used in this country for
pulling plows in a very long time. LOL

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/4/2018 7:22 PM, wrote:
>> On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 18:38:44 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-12-04 5:12 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> Flank steak and chicken wings used to be dirt cheap and beef bones were
>>>> free. I paid $6.99/lb but the three tails are nice and meaty. I'll
>>>> get
>>>> several meals (which I can freeze) out of the oxtail stew.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am very picky when it comes to oxtails. They have to be on sale cheap,
>>> and there has to be a lot of meat on the bones. It is bad enough to be
>>> charged steak prices for a cut of meat that requires so much work to
>>> make it tender and tasty, but I especially dislike paying that much for
>>> bones.
>>
>> Chances are they're cow tails, not oxtails
>>
> We all know that since oxen haven't been used in this country for
> pulling plows in a very long time. LOL
>
> Jill

Maybe Popeye still uses them on that high altitude ranch of his.

On Tue, 04 Dec 2018 19:22:42 -0500, wrote:

>On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 18:38:44 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2018-12-04 5:12 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Flank steak and chicken wings used to be dirt cheap and beef bones were
>>> free.* I paid $6.99/lb but the three tails are nice and meaty.* I'll get
>>> several meals (which I can freeze) out of the oxtail stew.
>>>
>>
>>I am very picky when it comes to oxtails. They have to be on sale cheap,
>>and there has to be a lot of meat on the bones. It is bad enough to be
>>charged steak prices for a cut of meat that requires so much work to
>>make it tender and tasty, but I especially dislike paying that much for
>>bones.
>
>Chances are they're cow tails, not oxtails

Maybe they first castrate bulls and then quickly cut off their tails.

wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 18:38:44 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2018-12-04 5:12 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Flank steak and chicken wings used to be dirt cheap and beef bones were
>>> free. I paid $6.99/lb but the three tails are nice and meaty. I'll get
>>> several meals (which I can freeze) out of the oxtail stew.
>>>
>>
>> I am very picky when it comes to oxtails. They have to be on sale cheap,
>> and there has to be a lot of meat on the bones. It is bad enough to be
>> charged steak prices for a cut of meat that requires so much work to
>> make it tender and tasty, but I especially dislike paying that much for
>> bones.
>
> Chances are they're cow tails, not oxtails
>

Natcherly, Popeye. Everyone knows dat.

Did yoose know dat cowshit passing under the tail is what gives it that
special flavor yoose likes so much?

On 12/4/2018 6:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-12-04 5:12 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Flank steak and chicken wings used to be dirt cheap and beef bones
>> were free.Â* I paid $6.99/lb but the three tails are nice and meaty.
>> I'll get several meals (which I can freeze) out of the oxtail stew.
>>
>
> I am very picky when it comes to oxtails. They have to be on sale cheap,
> and there has to be a lot of meat on the bones. It is bad enough to be
> charged steak prices for a cut of meat that requires so much work to
> make it tender and tasty, but I especially dislike paying that much for
> bones.
>
Oxtails don't require any more work than anything else you'd braise low
and slow. The oxtails I bought are very meaty. All they require is
browning then slow braising. Nothing difficult about that. I
appreciate the rich beefy taste of oxtail stew. YMMV.

Jill

On 2018-12-04 4:38 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-12-04 5:12 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Flank steak and chicken wings used to be dirt cheap and beef bones
>> were free.Â* I paid $6.99/lb but the three tails are nice and meaty.
>> I'll get several meals (which I can freeze) out of the oxtail stew.
>>
>
> I am very picky when it comes to oxtails. They have to be on sale cheap,
> and there has to be a lot of meat on the bones. It is bad enough to be
> charged steak prices for a cut of meat that requires so much work to
> make it tender and tasty, but I especially dislike paying that much for
> bones.
>
But then, why is stewing beef so expensive? It may be very lean but it
is meat from the shin and tough as blazes!

On 2018-12-05 1:28 AM, graham wrote:
> On 2018-12-04 4:38 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-12-04 5:12 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Flank steak and chicken wings used to be dirt cheap and beef bones
>>> were free.Â* I paid $6.99/lb but the three tails are nice and meaty.
>>> I'll get several meals (which I can freeze) out of the oxtail stew.
>>>
>>
>> I am very picky when it comes to oxtails. They have to be on sale
>> cheap, and there has to be a lot of meat on the bones. It is bad
>> enough to be charged steak prices for a cut of meat that requires so
>> much work to make it tender and tasty, but I especially dislike paying
>> that much for bones.
>>
> But then, why is stewing beef so expensive? It may be very lean but it
> is meat from the shin and tough as blazes!

It is tricky to cook but it can be delicious. Low and slow cooking with
the right ingredients can produce a really great stew. I watch the
price on that stuff too. I am not going to spend near steak prices for
something that takes hours to cook and needs a lot of extras.

On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 23:28:01 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-12-04 4:38 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-12-04 5:12 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> Flank steak and chicken wings used to be dirt cheap and beef bones
>>> were free.* I paid $6.99/lb but the three tails are nice and meaty.
>>> I'll get several meals (which I can freeze) out of the oxtail stew.
>>>
>>
>> I am very picky when it comes to oxtails. They have to be on sale cheap,
>> and there has to be a lot of meat on the bones. It is bad enough to be
>> charged steak prices for a cut of meat that requires so much work to
>> make it tender and tasty, but I especially dislike paying that much for
>> bones.
>>
>But then, why is stewing beef so expensive? It may be very lean but it
>is meat from the shin and tough as blazes!

Stewing beef is only tough and expensive when one is too lazy to cut
their own... buy a roast whatever cut you like when on sale and cut it
up yourself... and then you won't be stewing mystery meat... stew meat
is always a blend of trimmings and scraps, they don't hack up a nice
looking roast. Stew meat is made from that which if wraped as a roast
would be so ugli/repulsive no one would buy it... the same type of
waste is made into ground; gristle, silver skin, and all. The price
is high because you are paying for the butcher's extra knife labor.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message

> my problem is that I began making this soup when oxtails were
> practically free. So the $6.99/# shocks me :-(


Sort of like the chicken wing thing.

Cheri

On 2018-12-04 9:15 p.m., Cheri wrote:
> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>> my problem is that I began making this soup when oxtails were
>> practically free.* So the $6.99/# shocks me :-(
>
>
> Sort of like the chicken wing thing.
>

At least chicken wing have meat on them and are easy to cook. I have
seen packages of four oxtail pieces where there wasn't more than a
couple forkfuls of meat in the the whole pack.

On 12/4/2018 9:52 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-12-04 9:15 p.m., Cheri wrote:
>> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>>> my problem is that I began making this soup when oxtails were
>>> practically free.* So the $6.99/# shocks me :-(
>>
>>
>> Sort of like the chicken wing thing.
>>
>
> At least chicken wing have meat on them and are easy to cook.* I have
> seen packages of four oxtail pieces* where there wasn't more than a
> couple forkfuls of meat in the the whole pack.

You're not finding the right kinds of oxtails. Too bad your Dutch
butcher isn't still around. Heh.

Jill

On 2018-12-04 10:53 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/4/2018 9:52 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> At least chicken wing have meat on them and are easy to cook.* I have
>> seen packages of four oxtail pieces* where there wasn't more than a
>> couple forkfuls of meat in the the whole pack.
>
> You're not finding the right kinds of oxtails.* Too bad your Dutch
> butcher isn't still around.* Heh.

I do occasionally see meatier oxtails and on sale. I do miss the Dutch
butcher. I used to occasionally get good deals on oxtails from him. I
also miss his bacon. I was hoping that his son was going to open a
retail outlet for his new meat curing business.