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cshenk 18-09-2018 01:23 AM

WAY OT Computer question
 
Cheri wrote:

> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 7:52:06 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
> > >
> > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey, nobody is more surprised than me! I am going to use my Vista
> > > for now, I don't see a newsreader with it, but I am going to
> > > like Win10, so easy to set up email accounts etc. :)
> > >
> > > Cheri
> > >
> > >

> > Have you transferred any of your files from Vista over to the new
> > W-10 pc? It's easy to do when you get ready to take the plunge.

>
>
> No, most certainly I have not. LOL I am Googling on Vista to find out
> how to do things on Win10. I hope Vista doesn't fail before I get
> what I need down, but there is always Win7 to hook back up now that I
> know how. I'm really worn out with electronics right now, had the
> Directv installing the Genie a couple of days ago, learning new
> remotes, having to reprogram everything, I'm just tired...and an
> idiot when it comes to some of this stuff. :)
>
> Cheri


Don't worry, something gets all of us at times. My Daughter the 'TV
Tech' got mad at me recently. She didn't appreciate 35+ years of
troubleshooting teling her what to try for something.

Pre-Hurricane Florence, she took the WII-U and unplugged it to put it
away safe 'just in case'. Immediately we lost basic TV off that TV.
Ok, no biggie, we use the other for a bit. I recalle she had some
issue with a password and getting the WII-U to work in the early days.

So come safe time, she wants me to call Verizon (80$ to have them come
out). I said no, first we plug it all back in and try it and if that
doesn't work, we turn it ALL off for a bit over a minute then back on
and see what happens. Poor thing is frustrated as she'd turned pieces
off one at a time and didn't know the difference.

The turn it all off then back on worked like a charm. It needed to be
off long enough for a full cycle (1+ minute).

Druce 18-09-2018 01:25 AM

WAY OT Computer question
 
On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 20:20:38 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 9/17/2018 6:47 PM, wrote:
>> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 5:18:59 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 3:42:07 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> You don't find the wires annoying, you must be comatose.
>>>
>>> Wires are ROCK SOLID connections! If they are connected/plugged in!
>>>
>>> You must find your wireless signals getting hacked or failing sporadically!
>>>
>>> Signals drop out much? ;-)
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>>

>> I can't speak for Sheldon, but I've never, ever, ever, not once had my
>> wireless signal getting hacked or failing sporadically. Nope, n-o-t a
>> s-i-n-g-l-e time.
>>

>
>Well my mouse has fallen off the armrest a couple of times. I'm not
>that clumsy so it must be hackers controlling it.


Do you ever see your mouse independently transfer money to a bank
account in St. Louis?

cshenk 18-09-2018 01:53 AM

WAY OT Computer question
 
notbob wrote:

> On 9/17/2018 2:03 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > Wow. You mean you have to be online to send email to somebody else?
> > Who knew?

>
> To write and "send", yes. To receive? No.
>
> You can "send" an email while not on yer computer? Neat trick. ;)
>
> nb


Chuckle, close my friend! What you describe is how it feels to a
Submarine sailor.

Anyone can 'read email' while offline if they have a proper PST on the
local machine. On a ship, that can also be on the ship's email server.
You can also 'respond' to those emails and they will sit in outbound
(local machine or ship server). It only actually transits (in or out)
when 'connected'.

Similar to that I picked up a packet of newsgroup posts a bit ago. I
connected and downloaded them to my local system. At the same time,
any outbound was sent from my local system to the Giganews server.

I'm clicking along and doing both read inbound and reply outbound but
it's all here on my local machine for now. I set it up to do it that
way.

John Kuthe[_3_] 18-09-2018 01:58 AM

WAY OT Computer question
 
On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 7:53:46 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> notbob wrote:
>
> > On 9/17/2018 2:03 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> > > Wow. You mean you have to be online to send email to somebody else?
> > > Who knew?

> >
> > To write and "send", yes. To receive? No.
> >
> > You can "send" an email while not on yer computer? Neat trick. ;)
> >
> > nb

>
> Chuckle, close my friend! What you describe is how it feels to a
> Submarine sailor.
>
> Anyone can 'read email' while offline if they have a proper PST on the
> local machine. On a ship, that can also be on the ship's email server.
> You can also 'respond' to those emails and they will sit in outbound
> (local machine or ship server). It only actually transits (in or out)
> when 'connected'.
>
> Similar to that I picked up a packet of newsgroup posts a bit ago. I
> connected and downloaded them to my local system. At the same time,
> any outbound was sent from my local system to the Giganews server.
>
> I'm clicking along and doing both read inbound and reply outbound but
> it's all here on my local machine for now. I set it up to do it that
> way.


Oh SHUT UP!!

Computer Professionals are having a computer serious conversation!

RFC?

John Kuthe...

cshenk 18-09-2018 01:58 AM

WAY OT Computer question
 
Ophelia wrote:

>
>
> "Cheri" wrote in message ...
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 7:52:06 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
> > >
> > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey, nobody is more surprised than me! I am going to use my Vista
> > > for now, I
> > > don't see a newsreader with it, but I am going to like Win10, so
> > > easy to set
> > > up email accounts etc. :)
> > >
> > > Cheri
> > >
> > >

> > Have you transferred any of your files from Vista over to the new
> > W-10 pc? It's easy to do when you get ready to take the plunge.

>
>
> No, most certainly I have not. LOL I am Googling on Vista to find out
> how to do things on Win10. I hope Vista doesn't fail before I get
> what I need down, but there is always Win7 to hook back up now that I
> know how. I'm really worn out with electronics right now, had the
> Directv installing the Genie a couple of days ago, learning new
> remotes, having to reprogram everything, I'm just tired...and an
> idiot when it comes to some of this stuff. :)
>
> Cheri
>
> ===
>
> Aye I think you have done enough for the time being! It will come
> but it doesn't all have to be in the first half hour <g> How about a
> nice G&T or something to help you relax?
>
> Good luck with it:))


I'll go witht he G&T myself! All that needless cussing from JK..

cshenk 18-09-2018 02:03 AM

WAY OT Computer question
 
Ophelia wrote:

>
>
> "notbob" wrote in message ...
> On 9/16/2018 6:51 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> I don't see a newsreader with it, but I am going to like Win10, so
> > easy to set up email accounts etc. :)

>
> Yes. My e-mail client (W10) works great, but I hadda install
> Thunderbird fer newsgroups. This after I tried, then rejected, that
> client Ophelia uses (Xananews?). ;)
>
> mb
>
> ==
>
> Since when did I use Xananews???


You don't and never have. I corrected him earlier on it.

cshenk 18-09-2018 02:05 AM

WAY OT Computer question
 
notbob wrote:

> On 9/17/2018 7:58 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> > ==
> >
> > Since when did I use Xananews???

>
> Hmmmm.... kinda looks like Xananews, what with that double-hyphen jes
> before yer reply. But, I see it's not:
>
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3528.331
>
> I know about "Xananews" cuz I used it. Didn't know "Windows Live
> Mail" looked the same. ;)
>
> nb


No, xananews is very different. Ophelia manually separates the
messages with no > additions.

John Kuthe[_3_] 18-09-2018 02:06 AM

WAY OT Computer question
 
On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 8:04:02 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > "notbob" wrote in message ...
> > On 9/16/2018 6:51 PM, Cheri wrote:
> >
> > I don't see a newsreader with it, but I am going to like Win10, so
> > > easy to set up email accounts etc. :)

> >
> > Yes. My e-mail client (W10) works great, but I hadda install
> > Thunderbird fer newsgroups. This after I tried, then rejected, that
> > client Ophelia uses (Xananews?). ;)
> >
> > mb
> >
> > ==
> >
> > Since when did I use Xananews???

>
> You don't and never have. I corrected him earlier on it.


Thunderbird does not know an "Email ID" from a "Username"!! Calls them the SAME THING!! Well, MINE ARE NOT THE SAME!!

Therefor Thunderbird is a DUMB SHIT!

John Kuthe...

cshenk 18-09-2018 02:06 AM

WAY OT Computer question
 
Ophelia wrote:

>
>
> "notbob" wrote in message ...
>
> On 9/17/2018 7:58 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> > ==
> >
> > Since when did I use Xananews???

>
> Hmmmm.... kinda looks like Xananews, what with that double-hyphen jes
> before yer reply. But, I see it's not:
>
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3528.331
>
> I know about "Xananews" cuz I used it. Didn't know "Windows Live
> Mail" looked the same. ;)
>
> nb
>
> ==
>
> Heh, neither did I! We learn something new every day, if we are
> lucky:))
>
> What my version does not do is show the chevrons so I put that before
> my reply to show where one ends and my response begins ... see
> above:))


xananews doent have a == anyplace

John Kuthe[_3_] 18-09-2018 02:12 AM

WAY OT Computer question
 
On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 8:06:59 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > "notbob" wrote in message ...
> >
> > On 9/17/2018 7:58 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > > ==
> > >
> > > Since when did I use Xananews???

> >
> > Hmmmm.... kinda looks like Xananews, what with that double-hyphen jes
> > before yer reply. But, I see it's not:
> >
> > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3528.331
> >
> > I know about "Xananews" cuz I used it. Didn't know "Windows Live
> > Mail" looked the same. ;)
> >
> > nb
> >
> > ==
> >
> > Heh, neither did I! We learn something new every day, if we are
> > lucky:))
> >
> > What my version does not do is show the chevrons so I put that before
> > my reply to show where one ends and my response begins ... see
> > above:))

>
> xananews doent have a == anyplace


YOU have seen the SOURCE CODE of Xananews?

John Kuthe...

cshenk 18-09-2018 02:29 AM

WAY OT Computer question
 
wrote:

> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 10:00:36 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski
> wrote:
> >
> > My laptop rests on my belly and the wireless mouse on the recliner
> > armrest. I hardly ever use the desktop machine.
> >

> I've never owned a desktop pc but did use them at work.


Grin, I started before PC's and long before laptops. I have 3 desktops
in use now and a spare for the BBS one as it ages out of use as a BBS
server.

cshenk 18-09-2018 02:30 AM

WAY OT Computer question
 
Nancy2 wrote:

> Anyone buying a laptop should get a mouse-less (is that touchpad on
> the front of the Keyboard called a touchpad?) laptop. It took me
> very little time to get used to it, and then there is no mouse to
> mess with.
>
> N.


LOL, try building PPTs for flag officers with that....

Cheri[_3_] 18-09-2018 02:30 AM

WAY OT Computer question
 
"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Cheri wrote:
>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 7:52:06 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>> > >
>> > wrote in message
>> > > ...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hey, nobody is more surprised than me! I am going to use my Vista
>> > > for now, I don't see a newsreader with it, but I am going to
>> > > like Win10, so easy to set up email accounts etc. :)
>> > >
>> > > Cheri
>> > >
>> > >
>> > Have you transferred any of your files from Vista over to the new
>> > W-10 pc? It's easy to do when you get ready to take the plunge.

>>
>>
>> No, most certainly I have not. LOL I am Googling on Vista to find out
>> how to do things on Win10. I hope Vista doesn't fail before I get
>> what I need down, but there is always Win7 to hook back up now that I
>> know how. I'm really worn out with electronics right now, had the
>> Directv installing the Genie a couple of days ago, learning new
>> remotes, having to reprogram everything, I'm just tired...and an
>> idiot when it comes to some of this stuff. :)
>>
>> Cheri

>
> Don't worry, something gets all of us at times. My Daughter the 'TV
> Tech' got mad at me recently. She didn't appreciate 35+ years of
> troubleshooting teling her what to try for something.
>
> Pre-Hurricane Florence, she took the WII-U and unplugged it to put it
> away safe 'just in case'. Immediately we lost basic TV off that TV.
> Ok, no biggie, we use the other for a bit. I recalle she had some
> issue with a password and getting the WII-U to work in the early days.
>
> So come safe time, she wants me to call Verizon (80$ to have them come
> out). I said no, first we plug it all back in and try it and if that
> doesn't work, we turn it ALL off for a bit over a minute then back on
> and see what happens. Poor thing is frustrated as she'd turned pieces
> off one at a time and didn't know the difference.
>
> The turn it all off then back on worked like a charm. It needed to be
> off long enough for a full cycle (1+ minute).



:) I feel the pain.

Cheri


dsi1[_17_] 18-09-2018 05:03 AM

WAY OT Computer question
 
On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 12:57:24 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 5:49:50 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > I have my contacts on my phone, Chromebooks, even my Windows computers. It's a heck of a thing. I don't have to worry about a thing.
> >

> I've got my contacts and e-mail on my phone, too (Chrome and Windows). But
> I don't want to putz around using the phone as my only means to write e-mail.


My email and contacts are available on any machine I happen to be using, including my phone. It's quite a beautiful thing. To write emails, I'll use my PC or Chromebooks.

Sqwertz[_53_] 18-09-2018 06:50 AM

WAY OT Computer question
 
On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 15:28:09 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:

> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 3:43:29 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
>> On 9/17/2018 2:04 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> Wow. You get dumber and dumber every time you speak....

>> That may be true, but he is correct:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email
>>
>> nb

>
> Yep. About email, I KNOW what I am talking about!!
>
> I also know that on the Internet everything is communicated via
> what's called a Connectionless Protocol. Know what a
> connectionless protocol is? It's how EVERYTHING across the
> Internet is communicated!


That is 100% incorrect. In email, for example, the SMTP proptocol
is used. While the underlying connection is connectionless, it
relies on the SMTP protocol, which relies on established connections
and conversations. As do practically all other protocol except
TCP/IP itself.

Thanks notbob, for encouraging him to espouse even more of his
bullshit.

> Imagine you wanted to mail a book to someone. So rather than mail
> the whole book you tear out each page, stuff it in an envelope
> (packet), address it to the recipient, and them Snailmail them
> all! You don't care exactly about how each envelope gets there
> (what route), just as long as it gets there! Then once the
> recipient has all the enveloped, they open them, reassemble the
> book and there ya go!


But the transfer of that book would almost always use a file
transfser protocol such as FTP or HTTP, which are NOT connectionless
protocols.

> You wanna challenge me NOW on my Computer and Internet knowledge?


Yes,. I will challenge you. Put up $500 and we'll have unbiased
third party administer the test and then compare our scores. Others
can place wages on the outcome. You in, John? I sure am. This
should be a no-brainer for you, John - you're so confident.

Lets Go!

> **** you! I know more than you will EVER KNOW!!


$500. Put up or shut the **** up. notbob can administer the side
bets.

-sw

Cindy Hamilton[_2_] 18-09-2018 11:16 AM

WAY OT Computer question
 
On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 4:43:29 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
> On 9/17/2018 2:04 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > Wow. You get dumber and dumber every time you speak....

> That may be true, but he is correct:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email
>
> nb


Let's say, "He's not wrong". Irrelevant, perhaps. But not wrong.

Cindy Hamilton

John Kuthe[_3_] 18-09-2018 01:40 PM

WAY OT Computer question
 
On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 12:49:32 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
....
> $500. Put up or shut the **** up. notbob can administer the side
> bets.
>
> -sw


You ALL are SO FULL OF SHIT!!

No WAY anyone here or anywhere else can KNOW as much as I KNOW!! I have learned and had more Truth revealed to me than you can EVER KNOW!!

And if anyone here doubts that, they are REALLY STUPID!

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe[_3_] 18-09-2018 01:43 PM

WAY OT Computer question
 
On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 11:03:41 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 12:57:24 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> > On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 5:49:50 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > I have my contacts on my phone, Chromebooks, even my Windows computers. It's a heck of a thing. I don't have to worry about a thing.
> > >

> > I've got my contacts and e-mail on my phone, too (Chrome and Windows). But
> > I don't want to putz around using the phone as my only means to write e-mail.

>
> My email and contacts are available on any machine I happen to be using, including my phone. It's quite a beautiful thing. To write emails, I'll use my PC or Chromebooks.


No, it's a sign that you are TRAPPED IN CULTURE!! I am NOT! YOU are firmly trapped in YOUR Culture, I am NOT! I can travel and drift into and out of different Cultures at my WILL!

John Kuthe...

[email protected][_2_] 18-09-2018 02:04 PM

WAY OT Computer question
 
On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 11:03:41 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 12:57:24 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> > On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 5:49:50 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > I have my contacts on my phone, Chromebooks, even my Windows computers. It's a heck of a thing. I don't have to worry about a thing.
> > >

> > I've got my contacts and e-mail on my phone, too (Chrome and Windows). But
> > I don't want to putz around using the phone as my only means to write e-mail.

>
> My email and contacts are available on any machine I happen to be using, including my phone. It's quite a beautiful thing. To write emails, I'll use my PC or Chromebooks.
>

Yes, all my contacts are on this old Chromebook as well, but getting e-mail
synced on this without having to sign in and out of each e-mail address is
what is hair pulling. New power cord for the W-10 laptop is arriving today.


John Kuthe[_3_] 18-09-2018 02:31 PM

WAY OT Computer question
 
On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 8:04:21 AM UTC-5, wrote:
....
> Yes, all my contacts are on this old Chromebook as well, but getting e-mail
> synced on this without having to sign in and out of each e-mail address is
> what is hair pulling. New power cord for the W-10 laptop is arriving today.


Just put your Contacts list POSTED TO A CLOUD!! Oh, you DON'T WANT everyone to have access to it, only YOU, correct? Then WHY do people seem to LOVE this Cloud Computing Crap?

ROFL!!

John Kuthe...

Gary 18-09-2018 06:14 PM

WAY OT Computer question
 
John Kuthe wrote:
>
> You ALL are SO FULL OF SHIT!!
>
> No WAY anyone here or anywhere else can KNOW as much as I KNOW!! I have learned and had more Truth revealed to me than you can EVER KNOW!!
>
> And if anyone here doubts that, they are REALLY STUPID!


"He who knows it all, knows nothing"
Stop embarrassing yourself, John. You have very little face left
to lose, if any.

jinx the minx 18-09-2018 06:14 PM

WAY OT Computer question
 
John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 3:43:29 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
>> On 9/17/2018 2:04 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> Wow. You get dumber and dumber every time you speak....

>> That may be true, but he is correct:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email
>>
>> nb

>
> Yep. About email, I KNOW what I am talking about!!
>
> I also know that on the Internet everything is communicated via what's
> called a Connectionless Protocol. Know what a connectionless protocol is?
> It's how EVERYTHING across the Internet is communicated!
>
> Imagine you wanted to mail a book to someone. So rather than mail the
> whole book you tear out each page, stuff it in an envelope (packet),
> address it to the recipient, and them Snailmail them all! You don't care
> exactly about how each envelope gets there (what route), just as long as
> it gets there! Then once the recipient has all the enveloped, they open
> them, reassemble the book and there ya go!
>
> You wanna challenge me NOW on my Computer and Internet knowledge?
>
> **** you! I know more than you will EVER KNOW!!
>
> John Kuthe...
>


Im sorry, this same example is told in every single computer science 101
class.


John Kuthe[_3_] 18-09-2018 06:29 PM

WAY OT Computer question
 
On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 12:14:40 PM UTC-5, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> John Kuthe > wrote:
> > On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 3:43:29 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> >> On 9/17/2018 2:04 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>
> >>> Wow. You get dumber and dumber every time you speak....
> >> That may be true, but he is correct:
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email
> >>
> >> nb

> >
> > Yep. About email, I KNOW what I am talking about!!
> >
> > I also know that on the Internet everything is communicated via what's
> > called a Connectionless Protocol. Know what a connectionless protocol is?
> > It's how EVERYTHING across the Internet is communicated!
> >
> > Imagine you wanted to mail a book to someone. So rather than mail the
> > whole book you tear out each page, stuff it in an envelope (packet),
> > address it to the recipient, and them Snailmail them all! You don't care
> > exactly about how each envelope gets there (what route), just as long as
> > it gets there! Then once the recipient has all the enveloped, they open
> > them, reassemble the book and there ya go!
> >
> > You wanna challenge me NOW on my Computer and Internet knowledge?
> >
> > **** you! I know more than you will EVER KNOW!!
> >
> > John Kuthe...
> >

>
> Im sorry, this same example is told in every single computer science 101
> class.


ROFL!!! I have TAUGHT Computers 101 type classes before!

That was a Control Systems joke!

EVIDENTLY YOU don't even KNOW THE DIFFERENCE!

:-(

John Kuthe...

Cheri[_3_] 18-09-2018 06:48 PM

WAY OT Computer question
 

> John Kuthe > wrote:


>You wanna challenge me NOW on my Computer and Internet knowledge?


>**** you! I know more than you will EVER KNOW!!


>John Kuthe...



You can be secure in the knowledge that you know more about computers than I
do. Take whatever comfort you can in that! LOL

Cheri


jinx the minx 18-09-2018 07:13 PM

WAY OT Computer question
 
John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 12:14:40 PM UTC-5, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>> John Kuthe > wrote:
>>> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 3:43:29 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
>>>> On 9/17/2018 2:04 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wow. You get dumber and dumber every time you speak....
>>>> That may be true, but he is correct:
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>
>>> Yep. About email, I KNOW what I am talking about!!
>>>
>>> I also know that on the Internet everything is communicated via what's
>>> called a Connectionless Protocol. Know what a connectionless protocol is?
>>> It's how EVERYTHING across the Internet is communicated!
>>>
>>> Imagine you wanted to mail a book to someone. So rather than mail the
>>> whole book you tear out each page, stuff it in an envelope (packet),
>>> address it to the recipient, and them Snailmail them all! You don't care
>>> exactly about how each envelope gets there (what route), just as long as
>>> it gets there! Then once the recipient has all the enveloped, they open
>>> them, reassemble the book and there ya go!
>>>
>>> You wanna challenge me NOW on my Computer and Internet knowledge?
>>>
>>> **** you! I know more than you will EVER KNOW!!
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>>

>>
>> Im sorry, this same example is told in every single computer science 101
>> class.

>
> ROFL!!! I have TAUGHT Computers 101 type classes before!
>
> That was a Control Systems joke!
>
> EVIDENTLY YOU don't even KNOW THE DIFFERENCE!
>
> :-(
>
> John Kuthe...
>


Sure you have. LMAO. Apparently all you learned in your classes was jokes,
no real knowledge, which evidently YOU dont even know the difference.


John Kuthe[_3_] 18-09-2018 07:26 PM

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On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 1:13:43 PM UTC-5, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> John Kuthe > wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 12:14:40 PM UTC-5, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> >> John Kuthe > wrote:
> >>> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 3:43:29 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> >>>> On 9/17/2018 2:04 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Wow. You get dumber and dumber every time you speak....
> >>>> That may be true, but he is correct:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email
> >>>>
> >>>> nb
> >>>
> >>> Yep. About email, I KNOW what I am talking about!!
> >>>
> >>> I also know that on the Internet everything is communicated via what's
> >>> called a Connectionless Protocol. Know what a connectionless protocol is?
> >>> It's how EVERYTHING across the Internet is communicated!
> >>>
> >>> Imagine you wanted to mail a book to someone. So rather than mail the
> >>> whole book you tear out each page, stuff it in an envelope (packet),
> >>> address it to the recipient, and them Snailmail them all! You don't care
> >>> exactly about how each envelope gets there (what route), just as long as
> >>> it gets there! Then once the recipient has all the enveloped, they open
> >>> them, reassemble the book and there ya go!
> >>>
> >>> You wanna challenge me NOW on my Computer and Internet knowledge?
> >>>
> >>> **** you! I know more than you will EVER KNOW!!
> >>>
> >>> John Kuthe...
> >>>
> >>
> >> Im sorry, this same example is told in every single computer science 101
> >> class.

> >
> > ROFL!!! I have TAUGHT Computers 101 type classes before!
> >
> > That was a Control Systems joke!
> >
> > EVIDENTLY YOU don't even KNOW THE DIFFERENCE!
> >
> > :-(
> >
> > John Kuthe...
> >

>
> Sure you have. LMAO. Apparently all you learned in your classes was jokes,
> no real knowledge, which evidently YOU dont even know the difference.


Stacks, queues, lists, sorting, algorithms, recursion, etc.

Have you ever written a program in C which used recursion? I have. Assembler? Do you know what Microcode is and it's relevance to the differences between RISC and CICS microprocessors?

John Kuthe...

Ophelia[_16_] 18-09-2018 09:04 PM

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"cshenk" wrote in message
...

Ophelia wrote:

>
>
> "Cheri" wrote in message ...
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 7:52:06 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
> > >
> > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey, nobody is more surprised than me! I am going to use my Vista
> > > for now, I
> > > don't see a newsreader with it, but I am going to like Win10, so
> > > easy to set
> > > up email accounts etc. :)
> > >
> > > Cheri
> > >
> > >

> > Have you transferred any of your files from Vista over to the new
> > W-10 pc? It's easy to do when you get ready to take the plunge.

>
>
> No, most certainly I have not. LOL I am Googling on Vista to find out
> how to do things on Win10. I hope Vista doesn't fail before I get
> what I need down, but there is always Win7 to hook back up now that I
> know how. I'm really worn out with electronics right now, had the
> Directv installing the Genie a couple of days ago, learning new
> remotes, having to reprogram everything, I'm just tired...and an
> idiot when it comes to some of this stuff. :)
>
> Cheri
>
> ===
>
> Aye I think you have done enough for the time being! It will come
> but it doesn't all have to be in the first half hour <g> How about a
> nice G&T or something to help you relax?
>
> Good luck with it:))


I'll go witht he G&T myself! All that needless cussing from JK..

=

lol



Sqwertz[_53_] 18-09-2018 09:36 PM

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On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 05:40:18 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:

> On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 12:49:32 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> ...
>> $500. Put up or shut the **** up. notbob can administer the side
>> bets.
>>
>> -sw

>
> You ALL are SO FULL OF SHIT!!
>
> No WAY anyone here or anywhere else can KNOW as much as I KNOW!!
> I have learned and had more Truth revealed to me than you can
> EVER KNOW!!
>
> And if anyone here doubts that, they are REALLY STUPID!


Your next manic low might kill you, you know. You're setting
yourself up for a doosie. Ain't no amount of mooched Indian food
gonna help you.

-sw

Sqwertz[_53_] 18-09-2018 09:43 PM

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On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 00:50:06 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 15:28:09 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
>
>> Yep. About email, I KNOW what I am talking about!!
>>
>> I also know that on the Internet everything is communicated via
>> what's called a Connectionless Protocol. Know what a
>> connectionless protocol is? It's how EVERYTHING across the
>> Internet is communicated!

>
> That is 100% incorrect. In email, for example, the SMTP proptocol
> is used. While the underlying connection is connectionless, it
> relies on the SMTP protocol, which relies on established connections
> and conversations. As do practically all other common networking
> protocols except TCP/IP itself.


What, John. You're not going to correct me on this? Was I wrong,
or is this all over your head?

-sw

jmcquown[_2_] 18-09-2018 10:54 PM

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On 9/16/2018 6:08 PM, Cheri wrote:
> I ordered a desktop computer with Win10 that came with mouse and
> keyboard. The
> computer plug ins on the back of computer for these are round pin type, but
> the mouse and keyboard that came with it have the slotted flat plug ends. I
> have a tech coming from Best Buy on Tuesday to set it up for me and
> wonder what type if any
> adapters there are for this. I haven't seen those type of plugs since
> Win98. Thanks to anyone who can help, I am not computer tech savvy at
> all as you know.
>

Sure sounds like an old cable adapter to me. I used to have a few of
those hanging around... about 15 years ago.

Jill

dsi1[_17_] 19-09-2018 12:01 AM

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On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 3:04:21 AM UTC-10, wrote:

> Yes, all my contacts are on this old Chromebook as well, but getting e-mail
> synced on this without having to sign in and out of each e-mail address is
> what is hair pulling. New power cord for the W-10 laptop is arriving today.


I can't say what's happening with your system. I can edit and add to my contact list on anything that I'm using and it gets synchronized across all the platforms that I use. It's pretty much how computing is supposed to be. All that shit that happened since the late 80's was just a waste of time.

cshenk 19-09-2018 02:14 AM

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Sqwertz wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 18:35:08 -0500, cshenk wrote:
>
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> >> It doesn't get any simpler than Thunderbird.
> >>
> >> And I cringe when I hear people incorrectly use the word "software"
> >> like that (and other incorrect ways). At least you didn't

> pluralize >> it. But it shows your own ignorance especially for
> someone who >> claims to "have written a software".
> >>
> >> You have the weirdest vocabulary of anyone here.

> >
> > Don't know what you are talking about. I don't write software nor
> > ever claimed to do so unless you misinterpret a SQL programmer as
> > 'writing software'

>
> A programmer writes software, yes. That is the accepted definition.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmer
>
> "A programmer, developer, dev, coder, or software engineer is a
> person who creates computer software."
>
> (notice they did not a "...who creates A computer software".
>
> And a SQL query writer is not a programmer, by industry standards.
> But you're the claiming you're a "SQL programmer".


SQL is a special-purpose programming language designed for managing
data in a relational database, and is used by a huge number of apps and
organizations.

>
> > As to Thunderbird, it is a software.

>
> <shiver> You did it again. "Thunderbird is A program" or
> "Thunderbird is software" (not "A" software) are the correct usages
> of those two words.


You have issues. Both are correct usage in American english in the IT
industry.

>
> > As to odd vocabulary, chock that up to a diverse background of work
> > experince, 35 of it in nitch IT areas.

>
> Fortunately the military promotes on seniority rather than knowledge
> and efficient accomplishments. 35 years in the industry has at
> taught me how to use the terms correctly.


I do not know what you are trying to express here but you didn't do a
very good job of it. THe military promotes on effectiveness in the
position.




cshenk 19-09-2018 02:21 AM

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Sqwertz wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 19:13:16 -0500, cshenk wrote:
>
> > Cheri wrote:
> >
> >> I wrote:
> > >
> >>> Make sure they're plugged into black USB ports rather than blue

> USB >>> ports. They'll both work for keyboard and mouse but you'll
> >>> eventually probably need to swap them later.
> >>
> >> Thank you very much, will do. that is very useful information and I
> >> appreciate it.

> >
> > Do you have colored USB ports perchance? I don't. Well, actually
> > one of the computers here has a pretty silverish exterior to the
> > front set. MOst of my gear is pretty old though.

>
> Blue USB ports are USB 3.0 for high speed devices. Black ports are
> USB 2.0 (for keyboard, mice, printers, and cheap/slow thumb drives).
> It's possible that there are now computers with only blue USB ports,
> in which case it doesn't matter.
>
> Picture of both:
>

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qim...8426e23a4.webp
>
> -sw


Sorry, can't open that.

I am unsure if you have newer tech gear than I do, or a specific brand
that color codes them.

cshenk 19-09-2018 02:21 AM

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Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 9/17/2018 6:47 PM, wrote:
> > On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 5:18:59 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> > >
> > > On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 3:42:07 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> > > ...
> > > > You don't find the wires annoying, you must be comatose.
> > >
> > > Wires are ROCK SOLID connections! If they are connected/plugged
> > > in!
> > >
> > > You must find your wireless signals getting hacked or failing
> > > sporadically!
> > >
> > > Signals drop out much? ;-)
> > >
> > > John Kuthe...
> > >

> > I can't speak for Sheldon, but I've never, ever, ever, not once had
> > my wireless signal getting hacked or failing sporadically. Nope,
> > n-o-t a s-i-n-g-l-e time.
> >

>
> Well my mouse has fallen off the armrest a couple of times. I'm not
> that clumsy so it must be hackers controlling it.


LOL!

cshenk 19-09-2018 02:41 AM

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Cheri wrote:

> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Cheri wrote:
> >
> > wrote in message
> > > ...
> >>> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 7:52:06 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
> >>> >
> > wrote in message
> >>> > ...
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Hey, nobody is more surprised than me! I am going to use my

> Vista >>> > for now, I don't see a newsreader with it, but I am
> going to >>> > like Win10, so easy to set up email accounts etc. :)
> >>> >
> >>> > Cheri
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> Have you transferred any of your files from Vista over to the new
> >>> W-10 pc? It's easy to do when you get ready to take the plunge.
> > >
> > >
> > > No, most certainly I have not. LOL I am Googling on Vista to find
> > > out how to do things on Win10. I hope Vista doesn't fail before I
> > > get what I need down, but there is always Win7 to hook back up
> > > now that I know how. I'm really worn out with electronics right
> > > now, had the Directv installing the Genie a couple of days ago,
> > > learning new remotes, having to reprogram everything, I'm just
> > > tired...and an idiot when it comes to some of this stuff. :)
> > >
> > > Cheri

> >
> > Don't worry, something gets all of us at times. My Daughter the 'TV
> > Tech' got mad at me recently. She didn't appreciate 35+ years of
> > troubleshooting teling her what to try for something.
> >
> > Pre-Hurricane Florence, she took the WII-U and unplugged it to put
> > it away safe 'just in case'. Immediately we lost basic TV off that
> > TV. Ok, no biggie, we use the other for a bit. I recalle she had
> > some issue with a password and getting the WII-U to work in the
> > early days.
> >
> > So come safe time, she wants me to call Verizon (80$ to have them
> > come out). I said no, first we plug it all back in and try it and
> > if that doesn't work, we turn it ALL off for a bit over a minute
> > then back on and see what happens. Poor thing is frustrated as
> > she'd turned pieces off one at a time and didn't know the
> > difference.
> >
> > The turn it all off then back on worked like a charm. It needed to
> > be off long enough for a full cycle (1+ minute).

>
>
> :) I feel the pain.
>
> Cheri


Yeah, I don't really get all the TV/DVD/VCR/Game Machine stuff too well
in combination.

Anyways, I have a Mini-DIN to USB connector in my hand. Popular gear
when folks still had mini-din mismatched gear. It has a regular USB
post on one end, and a small round plug on the other with what looks
like 7 pins and a sort of flat bit that fits a slot that makes you fit
it in right.

If you have those, you can spare up a USB port later and plug in direct
off your matching mouse and keyboard fit to the round pins. The bigger
DIN slots are long gone now but the small ones with an adapter, work
well.

[email protected] 19-09-2018 02:42 AM

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Sep 2018 "cshenk" wrote:
>Sqwertz wrote;
>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 cshenk wrote:
>> > Sqwertz wrote:
>> >
>> >> It doesn't get any simpler than Thunderbird.


Best texass vino.

[email protected][_2_] 19-09-2018 02:44 AM

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On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 6:01:29 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> I can't say what's happening with your system. I can edit and add to my contact list on anything that I'm using and it gets synchronized across all the platforms that I use. It's pretty much how computing is supposed to be. All that shit that happened since the late 80's was just a waste of time.
>

Well, my power cord for my W-10 laptop came today so I'm back on it and the
old Chromebook has been relegated back to the craft room.


cshenk 19-09-2018 02:47 AM

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John Kuthe wrote:

> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 8:04:02 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> > Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > "notbob" wrote in message
> > > ... On 9/16/2018 6:51 PM,
> > > Cheri wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't see a newsreader with it, but I am going to like Win10, so
> > > > easy to set up email accounts etc. :)
> > >
> > > Yes. My e-mail client (W10) works great, but I hadda install
> > > Thunderbird fer newsgroups. This after I tried, then rejected,
> > > that client Ophelia uses (Xananews?). ;)
> > >
> > > mb
> > >
> > > ==
> > >
> > > Since when did I use Xananews???

> >
> > You don't and never have. I corrected him earlier on it.

>
> Thunderbird does not know an "Email ID" from a "Username"!! Calls
> them the SAME THING!! Well, MINE ARE NOT THE SAME!!
>
> Therefor Thunderbird is a DUMB SHIT!
>
> John Kuthe...


Thunderbird from my brief foray, knows both distinctly but you have to
set it up that way.

cshenk 19-09-2018 02:48 AM

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John Kuthe wrote:

> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 8:06:59 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> > Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > "notbob" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On 9/17/2018 7:58 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > >
> > > > ==
> > > >
> > > > Since when did I use Xananews???
> > >
> > > Hmmmm.... kinda looks like Xananews, what with that double-hyphen
> > > jes before yer reply. But, I see it's not:
> > >
> > > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3528.331
> > >
> > > I know about "Xananews" cuz I used it. Didn't know "Windows Live
> > > Mail" looked the same. ;)
> > >
> > > nb
> > >
> > > ==
> > >
> > > Heh, neither did I! We learn something new every day, if we are
> > > lucky:))
> > >
> > > What my version does not do is show the chevrons so I put that
> > > before my reply to show where one ends and my response begins
> > > ... see above:))

> >
> > xananews doent have a == anyplace

>
> YOU have seen the SOURCE CODE of Xananews?
>
> John Kuthe...


No, I use it. If you turn on headers, you'd see that I use it and
Opelia does not.

cshenk 19-09-2018 03:09 AM

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John Kuthe wrote:

> On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 11:03:41 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 12:57:24 PM UTC-10,
> > wrote:
> > > On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 5:49:50 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have my contacts on my phone, Chromebooks, even my Windows
> > > > computers. It's a heck of a thing. I don't have to worry about
> > > > a thing.
> > > >
> > > I've got my contacts and e-mail on my phone, too (Chrome and
> > > Windows). But I don't want to putz around using the phone as my
> > > only means to write e-mail.

> >
> > My email and contacts are available on any machine I happen to be
> > using, including my phone. It's quite a beautiful thing. To write
> > emails, I'll use my PC or Chromebooks.

>
> No, it's a sign that you are TRAPPED IN CULTURE!! I am NOT! YOU are
> firmly trapped in YOUR Culture, I am NOT! I can travel and drift into
> and out of different Cultures at my WILL!
>
> John Kuthe...


John, are ypu ok? Serious question as I am a human being getting
worried about you. You were all happy getting te house ready and now
you are all about cussing and frightened CAPS.


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