I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
Now what to do thith them all, and plenty more coming.
And the beefsteaks are just beginning to ripen... and tomorrow a lot
more long beans to pick... THE wife will return tomorrow, she can take
over the harvesting.
Down from 100ºF a couple days ago to 68ºF now, and very overcast...
hoping no more rain.

On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>
>
Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.

On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:11:44 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>
>>
>Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.

Roma tomatoes, if I'm not mistaken.

On Sat, 01 Sep 2018 06:32:11 +1000, Druce >
wrote:

>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:11:44 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>
>>>
>>Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.
>
>Roma tomatoes, if I'm not mistaken.

'Zactly.

On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:11:44 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>
>Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.

Thanks. If you lived nearby you could help yourself.

On 8/31/2018 1:16 PM, wrote:
> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
> Now what to do thith them all, and plenty more coming.
> And the beefsteaks are just beginning to ripen... and tomorrow a lot
> more long beans to pick... THE wife will return tomorrow, she can take
> over the harvesting.
> Down from 100ºF a couple days ago to 68ºF now, and very overcast...
> hoping no more rain.

Make ketchup . Or any of a host of tomato sauces - being very careful of
course not to caramelize the sugars in those little beauties . Or just
rinse them off , lay out on a cookie sheet and freeze . Bag 'em after
they freeze . When it comes time to use them just run hot water over
them from the faucet . Skins slip right off .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety .
Get off my lawn !

On 8/31/2018 3:46 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:11:44 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>
>> Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.
> Thanks. If you lived nearby you could help yourself.

Â* You know Sheldon , that isn't really all that many tomatoes . Don't
you can or otherwise preserve the fruits of your labor to eat later ? I
mean , that's the biggest reason I garden at all ! Fresh produce is very
nice , but it can't last ... way too much work for a couple of months of
fresh veggies . IMO , of course . Aside - Today I moved all our
home-canned goods and the honey to the new shelves in the cellar .
Finished them up yesterday , and now we have 154 linear feet of shelving
12 inches wide and spaced about 12" apart vertically .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety .
Get off my lawn !

> wrote in message
...
> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>
>>
> Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.


Yes, really nice looking.

Cheri

On 8/31/2018 7:16 PM, Cheri wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>
>>>
>> Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.
>
>
> Yes, really nice looking.

Looks fabulous.

I grew Early Girls this year, luckily as the mortgage lifters haven't
exactly done well. The weird thing is half the Early Girls are round
as you'd expect, half are Roma looking like those.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/31/2018 7:16 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.
>>
>>
>> Yes, really nice looking.
>
> Looks fabulous.
>
> I grew Early Girls this year, luckily as the mortgage lifters haven't
> exactly done well. The weird thing is half the Early Girls are round
> as you'd expect, half are Roma looking like those.
>
> nancy

We planted Early Girls too, was a strange crop this year, started out with
some blossom rot on a few, then they stayed very small and didn't ripen,
then they started ripening all at once. They taste really good, but not
looking like the Early Girls of past years.

Cheri

On 8/31/2018 7:28 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>> I grew Early Girls this year, luckily as the mortgage lifters haven't
>> exactly done well.* The weird thing is half the Early Girls are round
>> as you'd expect, half are Roma looking like those.

> We planted Early Girls too, was a strange crop this year, started out
> with some blossom rot on a few, then they stayed very small and didn't
> ripen, then they started ripening all at once. They taste really good,
> but not looking like the Early Girls of past years.

The weather's been so weird nothing' behaving as usual. We did get
a lot of rain, but also very hot.

nancy

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/31/2018 7:28 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote
>
>>> I grew Early Girls this year, luckily as the mortgage lifters haven't
>>> exactly done well. The weird thing is half the Early Girls are round
>>> as you'd expect, half are Roma looking like those.
>
>> We planted Early Girls too, was a strange crop this year, started out
>> with some blossom rot on a few, then they stayed very small and didn't
>> ripen, then they started ripening all at once. They taste really good,
>> but not looking like the Early Girls of past years.
>
> The weather's been so weird nothing' behaving as usual. We did get
> a lot of rain, but also very hot.
>
> nancy


Yes, and we have had those awful fires with terrible air which I think
affected them too.

Cheri

On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:28:31 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>> On 8/31/2018 7:16 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, really nice looking.
>>
>> Looks fabulous.
>>
>> I grew Early Girls this year, luckily as the mortgage lifters haven't
>> exactly done well. The weird thing is half the Early Girls are round
>> as you'd expect, half are Roma looking like those.
>>
>> nancy
>
>We planted Early Girls too, was a strange crop this year, started out with
>some blossom rot on a few, then they stayed very small and didn't ripen,
>then they started ripening all at once. They taste really good, but not
>looking like the Early Girls of past years.
>
>Cheri

due to weather stress all my tomatoes this year have tough skin and
really, really large cores -- sometimes a third of the tomato must be
cut away. I haven't had one straight cucumber. We have blasting hot
days followed by cool, gray and windy. So the shoulders of the
cucumber get broad and have that really smooth over ripe look and then
the cucumber tapers down to a skinny curled end. This year has been a
real disappointment.
Janet US

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:28:31 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 8/31/2018 7:16 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20
>>>>>> lbs,
>>>>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>>>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, really nice looking.
>>>
>>> Looks fabulous.
>>>
>>> I grew Early Girls this year, luckily as the mortgage lifters haven't
>>> exactly done well. The weird thing is half the Early Girls are round
>>> as you'd expect, half are Roma looking like those.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>>We planted Early Girls too, was a strange crop this year, started out with
>>some blossom rot on a few, then they stayed very small and didn't ripen,
>>then they started ripening all at once. They taste really good, but not
>>looking like the Early Girls of past years.
>>
>>Cheri
>
> due to weather stress all my tomatoes this year have tough skin and
> really, really large cores -- sometimes a third of the tomato must be
> cut away. I haven't had one straight cucumber. We have blasting hot
> days followed by cool, gray and windy. So the shoulders of the
> cucumber get broad and have that really smooth over ripe look and then
> the cucumber tapers down to a skinny curled end. This year has been a
> real disappointment.
> Janet US


I agree, a disappointment. I hope next year is better.

Cheri

On 9/1/2018 12:07 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:28:31 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 8/31/2018 7:16 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good
>>>>>>> 20 lbs,
>>>>>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>>>>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, really nice looking.
>>>>
>>>> Looks fabulous.
>>>>
>>>> I grew Early Girls this year, luckily as the mortgage lifters haven't
>>>> exactly done well.* The weird thing is half the Early Girls are round
>>>> as you'd expect, half are Roma looking like those.
>>>>
>>>> nancy
>>>
>>> We planted Early Girls too, was a strange crop this year, started
>>> out with
>>> some blossom rot on a few, then they stayed very small and didn't
>>> ripen,
>>> then they started ripening all at once. They taste really good, but not
>>> looking like the Early Girls of past years.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> due to weather stress all my tomatoes this year have tough skin and
>> really, really large cores -- sometimes* a third of the tomato must be
>> cut away.* I haven't had one straight cucumber.* We have blasting hot
>> days followed by cool, gray and windy.* So the shoulders of the
>> cucumber get broad and have that really smooth over ripe look and then
>> the cucumber tapers down to a skinny curled end.* This year has been a
>> real disappointment.
>> Janet US
>
>
> I agree, a disappointment. I hope next year is better.
>
> Cheri

* Bummer for y'all . I was having the best year ever - until the
critters found my tomatoes and ate them all . Even the green ones .
Those particular critters aren't around any more , and the tomatoes are
coming back now , but we lost probably two dozen or more quarts to them .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety .
Get off my lawn !

In article >, Terry Coombs >
wrote:

> * Bummer for y'all . I was having the best year ever - until the
> critters found my tomatoes and ate them all . Even the green ones .
> Those particular critters aren't around any more , and the tomatoes are
> coming back now , but we lost probably two dozen or more quarts to them .

I'm interested in which critters. Was it black mambas or tomato
hornworms? Was it wandering drunks with big shoes or deer? Stuff like
that.

leo

On 9/1/2018 7:00 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, Terry Coombs >
> wrote:
>
>> Â* Bummer for y'all . I was having the best year ever - until the
>> critters found my tomatoes and ate them all . Even the green ones .
>> Those particular critters aren't around any more , and the tomatoes are
>> coming back now , but we lost probably two dozen or more quarts to them .
> I'm interested in which critters. Was it black mambas or tomato
> hornworms? Was it wandering drunks with big shoes or deer? Stuff like
> that.
>
> leo

Â* Well , we fought and won against the hornworms and the squash beetles
, knocked down the early blight too . Then the dry spell hit and the
squirrels found that tomatoes are a tasty source of moisture ... I don't
mind sharing a few , but the little *******s stripped the plants bare ,
including all the green ones . I did have game cam pics of a couple of
raccoons and a 'possum , but fence upgrades solved that . I haven't
found a way yet to exclude squirrels . I'm not sure you're aware , but
we live in a clearing out in the woods , over 10 miles from the nearest
town . Not only do we have small critters , big ones are here too . The
fence around the garden is more geared towards keeping out the deer and
the bears - my bee yard is inside that fence too , and I don't want to
lose another hive to them .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety .
Get off my lawn !

On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:11:25 -0500, Terry Coombs >
wrote:

>On 8/31/2018 3:46 PM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:11:44 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>>
>>> Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.
>> Thanks. If you lived nearby you could help yourself.
>
> * You know Sheldon , that isn't really all that many tomatoes .

That's only what I picked that day. I've been picking that much and
more for two weeks now. And soon the Big Boys, and Beefsteaks will
have ripened, didn't plant cherry tomatoes this year, they're a pain
to pick

>Don't
>you can or otherwise preserve the fruits of your labor to eat later ? I
>mean , that's the biggest reason I garden at all !

I don't bother canning, too labor intensive. and canning tomatoes
they're the same as canned from the store., in fact store bought are
better, I buy the whole peeled packed in puree by the case... they
don't cost very much by the case at BJs, I think they cost less than
spending all those hours canning, and you still gotta buy lots of
jars, lids, seals, and a couple large canning pots. And then home
canned can spoil, I don't consume any home canned gifts, someone
offers I say thank you, and later toss it out and return the jar
telling how good it was. I only consume the honey and maple syrup
from a couple neighbors who I give my extra crops, I always plant much
more than we can consume, in fact we give away about three times what
we consume. My wife will give away those Romas on Monday when she
plays golf. We eat quite a bunch but we can't consume well over 100
every day. I've been eating like a dozen a day, I'm about tomatoed
out. I'm getting bored with cukes too. I still enjoy the long beans
but those are cooked and prepared differently each time. I freeze
veggies but I don't can any more. And many of my neighbors have
vegetable gardens so we gift each other the crops we don't grow. I
give my next door neighbor melons, he gives us potatoes and garlic.
One year he dropped off about fifty pounds of potatoes and a couple
dozen heads of garlic, two kinds. I had to tell him that we can't
possibly use that much there are only the two of us, and to please
take more than half back. My neighbor has a big family to supply,
he's the oldest of two brothers and two sisters, there are lots of
kids and grands... his wife has a much larger family, seven brothers
and sisters.

When they get together there can be a hundred of them for a cookout.

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message news
On 8/31/2018 3:46 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:11:44 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>
>> Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.
> Thanks. If you lived nearby you could help yourself.

You know Sheldon , that isn't really all that many tomatoes . Don't
you can or otherwise preserve the fruits of your labor to eat later ? I
mean , that's the biggest reason I garden at all ! Fresh produce is very
nice , but it can't last ... way too much work for a couple of months of
fresh veggies . IMO , of course . Aside - Today I moved all our
home-canned goods and the honey to the new shelves in the cellar .
Finished them up yesterday , and now we have 154 linear feet of shelving
12 inches wide and spaced about 12" apart vertically .


Snag

==

Brilliant Well done!

On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:02:35 -0500, Terry Coombs >
wrote:

>On 8/31/2018 1:16 PM, wrote:
>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>> Now what to do thith them all, and plenty more coming.
>> And the beefsteaks are just beginning to ripen... and tomorrow a lot
>> more long beans to pick... THE wife will return tomorrow, she can take
>> over the harvesting.
>> Down from 100ºF a couple days ago to 68ºF now, and very overcast...
>> hoping no more rain.
>
>Make ketchup .

We maybe use two bottles of Heinz red a year.

>Or any of a host of tomato sauces - being very careful of
>course not to caramelize the sugars in those little beauties . Or just
>rinse them off , lay out on a cookie sheet and freeze . Bag 'em after
>they freeze . When it comes time to use them just run hot water over
>them from the faucet . Skins slip right off .

If I did that they'd just be wasted, we can't be bothered and they'd
not get consumed, se we give the overage away. Canned tomatoes from
the store are inexpensive.
For us the vegetable garden is a hobby, we don't do it to save money,
in fact no one saves money with their home veggie garden... it costs a
lot more to have a garden than to buy at market.

On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:16:54 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> wrote in message
...
>> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>
>>>
>> Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.
>
>Yes, really nice looking.
>
>Cheri

Thank you. Even with all the rain the tomatoes are doing well.

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:16:54 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
> wrote in message
...
>>> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.
>>
>>Yes, really nice looking.
>>
>>Cheri
>
> Thank you. Even with all the rain the tomatoes are doing well.


I bet your neighbors love your garden with the sharing.

Cheri

On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 19:26:15 -0400, Nancy Young >
wrote:

>On 8/31/2018 7:16 PM, Cheri wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.
>>
>>
>> Yes, really nice looking.
>
>Looks fabulous.
>
>I grew Early Girls this year, luckily as the mortgage lifters haven't
>exactly done well. The weird thing is half the Early Girls are round
>as you'd expect, half are Roma looking like those.
>
>nancy

Thank you, Nancy. I still have Big Boys and Beefsteaks almost ready.
Those are good stuffed with cottage cheese mixed with other diced
veggies, sometimes mixed with crushed pineapple. I like to cut those
in half, sprinkle with Italian herbs, grated parm, mozz, and baked...
crustless pizza... place on a bed of pasta along with a couple
saw-seege it makes a meal for royalty.

On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 03:20:00 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 14:16:22 -0400, wrote:
>
>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>
>It too bad you go to all that trouble to grow your own tomatoes and
>don't let them ripen naturally for their fullest flavor. You're not
>buying any time to use them up by picking them all earlier than
>proper table ripeness.
>
>-sw

Right. I gave him a pass thinking that maybe all the rain in that
neck of the woods meant that he had to dash out a grab what he could,
ripe or not.

On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:11:25 -0500, Terry Coombs >
wrote:

>On 8/31/2018 3:46 PM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:11:44 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>>
>>> Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.
>> Thanks. If you lived nearby you could help yourself.
>
> * You know Sheldon , that isn't really all that many tomatoes . Don't
>you can or otherwise preserve the fruits of your labor to eat later ?

Supermarket Steve buys all his food in the supermarket. Preferably in
cans and jars.

On 9/1/2018 9:33 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Terry Coombs"Â* wrote in message news > On 8/31/2018 3:46 PM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:11:44 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>>
>>> Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.
>> Thanks.Â* If you lived nearby you could help yourself.
>
> Â* You know Sheldon , that isn't really all that many tomatoes . Don't
> you can or otherwise preserve the fruits of your labor to eat later ?
> I mean , that's the biggest reason I garden at all ! Fresh produce is
> very nice , but it can't last ... way too much work for a couple of
> months of fresh veggies . IMO , of course . Aside - Today I moved all
> our home-canned goods and the honey to the new shelves in the cellar .
> Finished them up yesterday , and now we have 154 linear feet of
> shelving 12 inches wide and spaced about 12" apart vertically .
>
>
> Â*Snag
>
> ==
>
> BrilliantÂ* Well done!
>
>
Â* Thank you . Today I moved all my cartridge reloading stuff to the
cellar and refinished the loading bench . I'm still concerned about the
moisture down there , but I'm convinced it's from outside air exchange -
probably partly due to temp changes , so I also insulated the door today
.. I have a new dehumidifier coming ... I'm going to suggest that we
start buying case lots of canned food , those shelves look pitifully
bare ... I'm just hoping that once the freezer is moved down there it
won't make it too warm for long-term storage for squashes , taters , and
the like . Of course down there it won't work near as hard as it does
outside under the "carport" .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety .
Get off my lawn !

On Sat, 1 Sep 2018Terry Coombs wrote:
>
>Bummer for y'all . I was having the best year ever - until the
>critters found my tomatoes and ate them all . Even the green ones.
>Those particular critters aren't around any more , and the tomatoes are
>coming back now , but we lost probably two dozen or more quarts to them.

Why don't you have a proper fence... I'm begining to think you don't
do any gardening. Two dozen quarts of tomatoes is like NOTHING.

On Saturday, September 1, 2018 at 5:59:56 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> Why don't you have a proper fence... I'm begining to think you don't
> do any gardening. Two dozen quarts of tomatoes is like NOTHING.
>
>
He said he now has a proper fence in place. But yes, 24 quarts of tomatoes
is a lot to lose to critters who do nothing else but destroy crops.

On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 16:07:24 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Saturday, September 1, 2018 at 5:59:56 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> Why don't you have a proper fence... I'm begining to think you don't
>> do any gardening. Two dozen quarts of tomatoes is like NOTHING.
>>
>>
>He said he now has a proper fence in place. But yes, 24 quarts of tomatoes
>is a lot to lose to critters who do nothing else but destroy crops.

To the critters we're the critters. And we're not even native. We're
an invasive species.

On 9/1/2018 9:40 AM, wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:02:35 -0500, Terry Coombs >
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/31/2018 1:16 PM, wrote:
>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>> Now what to do thith them all, and plenty more coming.
>>> And the beefsteaks are just beginning to ripen... and tomorrow a lot
>>> more long beans to pick... THE wife will return tomorrow, she can take
>>> over the harvesting.
>>> Down from 100ºF a couple days ago to 68ºF now, and very overcast...
>>> hoping no more rain.
>> Make ketchup .
> We maybe use two bottles of Heinz red a year.
>
>> Or any of a host of tomato sauces - being very careful of
>> course not to caramelize the sugars in those little beauties . Or just
>> rinse them off , lay out on a cookie sheet and freeze . Bag 'em after
>> they freeze . When it comes time to use them just run hot water over
>> them from the faucet . Skins slip right off .
> If I did that they'd just be wasted, we can't be bothered and they'd
> not get consumed, se we give the overage away. Canned tomatoes from
> the store are inexpensive.
> For us the vegetable garden is a hobby, we don't do it to save money,
> in fact no one saves money with their home veggie garden... it costs a
> lot more to have a garden than to buy at market.

Â* I don't garden to save money . I garden to feed us with food that's
not doused in chemicals .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety .
Get off my lawn !

On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 19:25:16 -0500, Terry Coombs >
wrote:

>On 9/1/2018 9:40 AM, wrote:
>>
>> We maybe use two bottles of Heinz red a year.
>>
>>> Or any of a host of tomato sauces - being very careful of
>>> course not to caramelize the sugars in those little beauties . Or just
>>> rinse them off , lay out on a cookie sheet and freeze . Bag 'em after
>>> they freeze . When it comes time to use them just run hot water over
>>> them from the faucet . Skins slip right off .

>> If I did that they'd just be wasted, we can't be bothered and they'd
>> not get consumed, se we give the overage away. Canned tomatoes from
>> the store are inexpensive.
>> For us the vegetable garden is a hobby, we don't do it to save money,
>> in fact no one saves money with their home veggie garden... it costs a
>> lot more to have a garden than to buy at market.
>
>I don't garden to save money . I garden to feed us with food that's
>not doused in chemicals .

That's a good reason. And I'm pretty sure that when I did more
vegetable gardening, up to 2 years ago, I was saving money too.

On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 17:31:57 -0500, Terry Coombs >
wrote:

>On 9/1/2018 9:33 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Terry Coombs"* wrote in message news >> On 8/31/2018 3:46 PM, wrote:
>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:11:44 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>>>
>>>> Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.
>>> Thanks.* If you lived nearby you could help yourself.
>>
>> * You know Sheldon , that isn't really all that many tomatoes . Don't
>> you can or otherwise preserve the fruits of your labor to eat later ?
>> I mean , that's the biggest reason I garden at all ! Fresh produce is
>> very nice , but it can't last ... way too much work for a couple of
>> months of fresh veggies . IMO , of course . Aside - Today I moved all
>> our home-canned goods and the honey to the new shelves in the cellar .
>> Finished them up yesterday , and now we have 154 linear feet of
>> shelving 12 inches wide and spaced about 12" apart vertically .
>>
>>
>> *Snag
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Brilliant* Well done!
>>
>>
> * Thank you . Today I moved all my cartridge reloading stuff to the
>cellar and refinished the loading bench . I'm still concerned about the
>moisture down there , but I'm convinced it's from outside air exchange -
>probably partly due to temp changes , so I also insulated the door today
>. I have a new dehumidifier coming ... I'm going to suggest that we
>start buying case lots of canned food , those shelves look pitifully
>bare ... I'm just hoping that once the freezer is moved down there it
>won't make it too warm for long-term storage for squashes , taters , and
>the like . Of course down there it won't work near as hard as it does
>outside under the "carport" .

45-50F for potatoes, 50F for winter squash. Be sure to turn the
squash from time to time to avoid humid rotting spots (potatoes too)

On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 19:25:16 -0500, Terry Coombs >
wrote:

>On 9/1/2018 9:40 AM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:02:35 -0500, Terry Coombs >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/31/2018 1:16 PM, wrote:
>>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>> Now what to do thith them all, and plenty more coming.
>>>> And the beefsteaks are just beginning to ripen... and tomorrow a lot
>>>> more long beans to pick... THE wife will return tomorrow, she can take
>>>> over the harvesting.
>>>> Down from 100ºF a couple days ago to 68ºF now, and very overcast...
>>>> hoping no more rain.
>>> Make ketchup .
>> We maybe use two bottles of Heinz red a year.
>>
>>> Or any of a host of tomato sauces - being very careful of
>>> course not to caramelize the sugars in those little beauties . Or just
>>> rinse them off , lay out on a cookie sheet and freeze . Bag 'em after
>>> they freeze . When it comes time to use them just run hot water over
>>> them from the faucet . Skins slip right off .
>> If I did that they'd just be wasted, we can't be bothered and they'd
>> not get consumed, se we give the overage away. Canned tomatoes from
>> the store are inexpensive.
>> For us the vegetable garden is a hobby, we don't do it to save money,
>> in fact no one saves money with their home veggie garden... it costs a
>> lot more to have a garden than to buy at market.
>
> * I don't garden to save money . I garden to feed us.

That's gardening to save money.

On Sat, 01 Sep 2018 21:31:15 -0400, wrote:

>On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 19:25:16 -0500, Terry Coombs >
>wrote:
>
>>On 9/1/2018 9:40 AM, wrote:
>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:02:35 -0500, Terry Coombs >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Make ketchup .
>>> We maybe use two bottles of Heinz red a year.
>>>
>>>> Or any of a host of tomato sauces - being very careful of
>>>> course not to caramelize the sugars in those little beauties . Or just
>>>> rinse them off , lay out on a cookie sheet and freeze . Bag 'em after
>>>> they freeze . When it comes time to use them just run hot water over
>>>> them from the faucet . Skins slip right off .
>>> If I did that they'd just be wasted, we can't be bothered and they'd
>>> not get consumed, se we give the overage away. Canned tomatoes from
>>> the store are inexpensive.
>>> For us the vegetable garden is a hobby, we don't do it to save money,
>>> in fact no one saves money with their home veggie garden... it costs a
>>> lot more to have a garden than to buy at market.
>>
>> * I don't garden to save money . I garden to feed us.
>
>That's gardening to save money.

You change what he said and then you disagree with what he didn't say.
Lame. Only a 75 year old child...

On 9/1/2018 7:32 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 17:31:57 -0500, Terry Coombs >
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/1/2018 9:33 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> "Terry Coombs"Â* wrote in message news >>> On 8/31/2018 3:46 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:11:44 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>>>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>>>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>>>>
>>>>> Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.
>>>> Thanks.Â* If you lived nearby you could help yourself.
>>> Â* You know Sheldon , that isn't really all that many tomatoes . Don't
>>> you can or otherwise preserve the fruits of your labor to eat later ?
>>> I mean , that's the biggest reason I garden at all ! Fresh produce is
>>> very nice , but it can't last ... way too much work for a couple of
>>> months of fresh veggies . IMO , of course . Aside - Today I moved all
>>> our home-canned goods and the honey to the new shelves in the cellar .
>>> Finished them up yesterday , and now we have 154 linear feet of
>>> shelving 12 inches wide and spaced about 12" apart vertically .
>>>
>>>
>>> Â*Snag
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> BrilliantÂ* Well done!
>>>
>>>
>> Â* Thank you . Today I moved all my cartridge reloading stuff to the
>> cellar and refinished the loading bench . I'm still concerned about the
>> moisture down there , but I'm convinced it's from outside air exchange -
>> probably partly due to temp changes , so I also insulated the door today
>> . I have a new dehumidifier coming ... I'm going to suggest that we
>> start buying case lots of canned food , those shelves look pitifully
>> bare ... I'm just hoping that once the freezer is moved down there it
>> won't make it too warm for long-term storage for squashes , taters , and
>> the like . Of course down there it won't work near as hard as it does
>> outside under the "carport" .
> 45-50F for potatoes, 50F for winter squash. Be sure to turn the
> squash from time to time to avoid humid rotting spots (potatoes too)

Â* That might be difficult to maintain . Normal cave temps here
(Blanchard Springs Caverns)are in the mid-50's . It might get that cool
down there in the cold months , but any warm spell is going to raise it
above those temps .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety .
Get off my lawn !

On 9/1/2018 8:31 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 19:25:16 -0500, Terry Coombs >
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/1/2018 9:40 AM, wrote:
>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:02:35 -0500, Terry Coombs >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/31/2018 1:16 PM, wrote:
>>>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>>> Now what to do thith them all, and plenty more coming.
>>>>> And the beefsteaks are just beginning to ripen... and tomorrow a lot
>>>>> more long beans to pick... THE wife will return tomorrow, she can take
>>>>> over the harvesting.
>>>>> Down from 100ºF a couple days ago to 68ºF now, and very overcast...
>>>>> hoping no more rain.
>>>> Make ketchup .
>>> We maybe use two bottles of Heinz red a year.
>>>
>>>> Or any of a host of tomato sauces - being very careful of
>>>> course not to caramelize the sugars in those little beauties . Or just
>>>> rinse them off , lay out on a cookie sheet and freeze . Bag 'em after
>>>> they freeze . When it comes time to use them just run hot water over
>>>> them from the faucet . Skins slip right off .
>>> If I did that they'd just be wasted, we can't be bothered and they'd
>>> not get consumed, se we give the overage away. Canned tomatoes from
>>> the store are inexpensive.
>>> For us the vegetable garden is a hobby, we don't do it to save money,
>>> in fact no one saves money with their home veggie garden... it costs a
>>> lot more to have a garden than to buy at market.
>> Â* I don't garden to save money . I garden to feed us.
> That's gardening to save money.

Â* Sure , since you clipped half of what I said . " I garden to feed us
with food that's not doused in chemicals ."

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety .
Get off my lawn !

On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 21:50:23 -0500, Terry Coombs >
wrote:

>On 9/1/2018 7:32 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 17:31:57 -0500, Terry Coombs >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/1/2018 9:33 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Terry Coombs"* wrote in message news >>>> On 8/31/2018 3:46 PM, wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:11:44 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>>>>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>>>>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.
>>>>> Thanks.* If you lived nearby you could help yourself.
>>>> * You know Sheldon , that isn't really all that many tomatoes . Don't
>>>> you can or otherwise preserve the fruits of your labor to eat later ?
>>>> I mean , that's the biggest reason I garden at all ! Fresh produce is
>>>> very nice , but it can't last ... way too much work for a couple of
>>>> months of fresh veggies . IMO , of course . Aside - Today I moved all
>>>> our home-canned goods and the honey to the new shelves in the cellar .
>>>> Finished them up yesterday , and now we have 154 linear feet of
>>>> shelving 12 inches wide and spaced about 12" apart vertically .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Snag
>>>>
>>>> ==
>>>>
>>>> Brilliant* Well done!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> * Thank you . Today I moved all my cartridge reloading stuff to the
>>> cellar and refinished the loading bench . I'm still concerned about the
>>> moisture down there , but I'm convinced it's from outside air exchange -
>>> probably partly due to temp changes , so I also insulated the door today
>>> . I have a new dehumidifier coming ... I'm going to suggest that we
>>> start buying case lots of canned food , those shelves look pitifully
>>> bare ... I'm just hoping that once the freezer is moved down there it
>>> won't make it too warm for long-term storage for squashes , taters , and
>>> the like . Of course down there it won't work near as hard as it does
>>> outside under the "carport" .
>> 45-50F for potatoes, 50F for winter squash. Be sure to turn the
>> squash from time to time to avoid humid rotting spots (potatoes too)
>
> * That might be difficult to maintain . Normal cave temps here
>(Blanchard Springs Caverns)are in the mid-50's . It might get that cool
>down there in the cold months , but any warm spell is going to raise it
>above those temps .

do your best. I don't have cave temps either and I can keep squash
for a couple months.

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message news
On 9/1/2018 9:33 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Terry Coombs" wrote in message news > On 8/31/2018 3:46 PM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:11:44 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:16:26 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>>>
>>> Nice looking big bowl of 'maters.
>> Thanks. If you lived nearby you could help yourself.
>
> You know Sheldon , that isn't really all that many tomatoes . Don't you
> can or otherwise preserve the fruits of your labor to eat later ? I mean ,
> that's the biggest reason I garden at all ! Fresh produce is very nice ,
> but it can't last ... way too much work for a couple of months of fresh
> veggies . IMO , of course . Aside - Today I moved all our home-canned
> goods and the honey to the new shelves in the cellar . Finished them up
> yesterday , and now we have 154 linear feet of shelving 12 inches wide and
> spaced about 12" apart vertically .
>
>
> Snag
>
> ==
>
> Brilliant Well done!
>
>
Thank you . Today I moved all my cartridge reloading stuff to the
cellar and refinished the loading bench . I'm still concerned about the
moisture down there , but I'm convinced it's from outside air exchange -
probably partly due to temp changes , so I also insulated the door today
.. I have a new dehumidifier coming ... I'm going to suggest that we
start buying case lots of canned food , those shelves look pitifully
bare ... I'm just hoping that once the freezer is moved down there it
won't make it too warm for long-term storage for squashes , taters , and
the like . Of course down there it won't work near as hard as it does
outside under the "carport" .

Snag

=====

My goodness, you have been busy) You would get on with my husband very
well) He is a prepper and has written books about it

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message news
On 9/1/2018 9:40 AM, wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:02:35 -0500, Terry Coombs >
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/31/2018 1:16 PM, wrote:
>>> I say too danged many, picked late yesterday afternoon, a good 20 lbs,
>>> my 16" deep dish pizza pan filled all it can hold:
>>> https://postimg.cc/image/rketjip7h/
>>> Now what to do thith them all, and plenty more coming.
>>> And the beefsteaks are just beginning to ripen... and tomorrow a lot
>>> more long beans to pick... THE wife will return tomorrow, she can take
>>> over the harvesting.
>>> Down from 100ºF a couple days ago to 68ºF now, and very overcast...
>>> hoping no more rain.
>> Make ketchup .
> We maybe use two bottles of Heinz red a year.
>
>> Or any of a host of tomato sauces - being very careful of
>> course not to caramelize the sugars in those little beauties . Or just
>> rinse them off , lay out on a cookie sheet and freeze . Bag 'em after
>> they freeze . When it comes time to use them just run hot water over
>> them from the faucet . Skins slip right off .
> If I did that they'd just be wasted, we can't be bothered and they'd
> not get consumed, se we give the overage away. Canned tomatoes from
> the store are inexpensive.
> For us the vegetable garden is a hobby, we don't do it to save money,
> in fact no one saves money with their home veggie garden... it costs a
> lot more to have a garden than to buy at market.

I don't garden to save money . I garden to feed us with food that's
not doused in chemicals .


Snag


=====

Excellent!

On 9/1/2018 9:31 PM, wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 19:25:16 -0500, Terry Coombs >
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/1/2018 9:40 AM, wrote:
>>> For us the vegetable garden is a hobby, we don't do it to save money,
>>> in fact no one saves money with their home veggie garden... it costs a
>>> lot more to have a garden than to buy at market.
>>
>> Â* I don't garden to save money . I garden to feed us.
>
> That's gardening to save money.
>

I see you thoughtfully trimmed "with food that's not doused in
chemicals". Not cool, Sheldon.

Jill