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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 00:13:07 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>And the "rfc post of the week" has become the post of eternity.
>
>Gad. Absolutely nothing of food interest here!

I haven't been cooking anything worth talking about although I plan to
cook some Hello Dollies today and a French Onion Tart tomorrow, to
take with me on Sunday to a party. We are not having the type of
weather that encourages one to turn the oven on - hottest summer on
record since 1873 they said the other day.

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:35:02 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 00:13:07 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>
>>And the "rfc post of the week" has become the post of eternity.
>>
>>Gad. Absolutely nothing of food interest here!
>
>I haven't been cooking anything worth talking about although I plan to
>cook some Hello Dollies today and a French Onion Tart tomorrow, to
>take with me on Sunday to a party. We are not having the type of
>weather that encourages one to turn the oven on - hottest summer on
>record since 1873 they said the other day.

So you can't make pizza or bake bread on a hot day. People are
strange.

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On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 6:49:25 AM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:35:02 -0300, wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 00:13:07 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
> >
> >>And the "rfc post of the week" has become the post of eternity.
> >>
> >>Gad. Absolutely nothing of food interest here!
> >
> >I haven't been cooking anything worth talking about although I plan to
> >cook some Hello Dollies today and a French Onion Tart tomorrow, to
> >take with me on Sunday to a party. We are not having the type of
> >weather that encourages one to turn the oven on - hottest summer on
> >record since 1873 they said the other day.
>
> So you can't make pizza or bake bread on a hot day. People are
> strange.

I'm reluctant to turn on the oven when the weather is hot. Just
that much more work for my air conditioner, and unnecessary expense
on my electric bill. I avoid running my electric dryer in the middle
of the day, even though it is outside the house's envelope, to relieve
stress on the power grid. A drop in the bucket, to be sure, but the
sea is made of drops.

Cindy Hamilton

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 04:08:48 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 6:49:25 AM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:35:02 -0300, wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 00:13:07 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>And the "rfc post of the week" has become the post of eternity.
>> >>
>> >>Gad. Absolutely nothing of food interest here!
>> >
>> >I haven't been cooking anything worth talking about although I plan to
>> >cook some Hello Dollies today and a French Onion Tart tomorrow, to
>> >take with me on Sunday to a party. We are not having the type of
>> >weather that encourages one to turn the oven on - hottest summer on
>> >record since 1873 they said the other day.
>>
>> So you can't make pizza or bake bread on a hot day. People are
>> strange.
>
>I'm reluctant to turn on the oven when the weather is hot. Just
>that much more work for my air conditioner, and unnecessary expense
>on my electric bill. I avoid running my electric dryer in the middle
>of the day, even though it is outside the house's envelope, to relieve
>stress on the power grid. A drop in the bucket, to be sure, but the
>sea is made of drops.

Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
warmers in your bathroom.

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On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 7:13:47 AM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 04:08:48 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 6:49:25 AM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
> >> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:35:02 -0300, wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 00:13:07 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>And the "rfc post of the week" has become the post of eternity.
> >> >>
> >> >>Gad. Absolutely nothing of food interest here!
> >> >
> >> >I haven't been cooking anything worth talking about although I plan to
> >> >cook some Hello Dollies today and a French Onion Tart tomorrow, to
> >> >take with me on Sunday to a party. We are not having the type of
> >> >weather that encourages one to turn the oven on - hottest summer on
> >> >record since 1873 they said the other day.
> >>
> >> So you can't make pizza or bake bread on a hot day. People are
> >> strange.
> >
> >I'm reluctant to turn on the oven when the weather is hot. Just
> >that much more work for my air conditioner, and unnecessary expense
> >on my electric bill. I avoid running my electric dryer in the middle
> >of the day, even though it is outside the house's envelope, to relieve
> >stress on the power grid. A drop in the bucket, to be sure, but the
> >sea is made of drops.
>
> Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
> your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
> warmers in your bathroom.

Not entirely. We generally run the A/C 24/7 because my husband has
asthma. The house is open now because we're enjoying a very mild
17 C morning. No laptops; I'm typing on a desktop running Fedora 28.
No bum warmers or towel warmers, although you're the wimp who can't
stand cold weather.

Cindy Hamilton

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 20:49:22 +1000, Druce >
wrote:

>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:35:02 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 00:13:07 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>>
>>>And the "rfc post of the week" has become the post of eternity.
>>>
>>>Gad. Absolutely nothing of food interest here!
>>
>>I haven't been cooking anything worth talking about although I plan to
>>cook some Hello Dollies today and a French Onion Tart tomorrow, to
>>take with me on Sunday to a party. We are not having the type of
>>weather that encourages one to turn the oven on - hottest summer on
>>record since 1873 they said the other day.
>
>So you can't make pizza or bake bread on a hot day. People are
>strange.

Why? I only eat pizza if there are no other options available and its
years since I baked bread, I buy a loaf, freeze it and consume a slice
here and there. One loaf usually lasts a month.

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 21:13:43 +1000, Druce >
wrote:

>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 04:08:48 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 6:49:25 AM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:35:02 -0300, wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 00:13:07 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>And the "rfc post of the week" has become the post of eternity.
>>> >>
>>> >>Gad. Absolutely nothing of food interest here!
>>> >
>>> >I haven't been cooking anything worth talking about although I plan to
>>> >cook some Hello Dollies today and a French Onion Tart tomorrow, to
>>> >take with me on Sunday to a party. We are not having the type of
>>> >weather that encourages one to turn the oven on - hottest summer on
>>> >record since 1873 they said the other day.
>>>
>>> So you can't make pizza or bake bread on a hot day. People are
>>> strange.
>>
>>I'm reluctant to turn on the oven when the weather is hot. Just
>>that much more work for my air conditioner, and unnecessary expense
>>on my electric bill. I avoid running my electric dryer in the middle
>>of the day, even though it is outside the house's envelope, to relieve
>>stress on the power grid. A drop in the bucket, to be sure, but the
>>sea is made of drops.
>
>Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
>your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
>warmers in your bathroom.

I don't have any of those things! I do leave my computer on 24/24 and
only turn it off once a week, my guru says that's the best way.

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On 8/31/2018 7:13 AM, Druce wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 04:08:48 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 6:49:25 AM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:35:02 -0300, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 00:13:07 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And the "rfc post of the week" has become the post of eternity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gad. Absolutely nothing of food interest here!
>>>>
>>>> I haven't been cooking anything worth talking about although I plan to
>>>> cook some Hello Dollies today and a French Onion Tart tomorrow, to
>>>> take with me on Sunday to a party. We are not having the type of
>>>> weather that encourages one to turn the oven on - hottest summer on
>>>> record since 1873 they said the other day.
>>>
>>> So you can't make pizza or bake bread on a hot day. People are
>>> strange.
>>
>> I'm reluctant to turn on the oven when the weather is hot. Just
>> that much more work for my air conditioner, and unnecessary expense
>> on my electric bill. I avoid running my electric dryer in the middle
>> of the day, even though it is outside the house's envelope, to relieve
>> stress on the power grid. A drop in the bucket, to be sure, but the
>> sea is made of drops.
>
> Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
> your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
> warmers in your bathroom.
>
Don't forget the heated steering wheel too.

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On 2018-08-31 9:08 AM, wrote:

> Why? I only eat pizza if there are no other options available and its
> years since I baked bread, I buy a loaf, freeze it and consume a slice
> here and there. One loaf usually lasts a month.
>

You get about twice as much life out of a loaf of bread as I do. My
bakery sells excellent bread but I usually opt for the day old. It is
going to be going into the freezer anyway. Bread will keep nicely in the
freezer, but only for a limited time. While there is huge difference
between a slice of fresh bread and a slice of day old, there is little
difference between them after a week or two in the freezer. It saves me
money and it helps the baker get rid of the day old stuff.

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On 2018-08-31 9:48 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
>> your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
>> warmers in your bathroom.
>>
> Don't forget the heated steering wheel too.

My wife used to rave about the seat warmer in her friend's car was. I
had little interest in that option, figuring that the seat warms up
within a couple minutes. I have changed my mind on that. My CRV came
with seat warmers and I have to say it's a nice option.

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On 2018-08-31 8:33 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-08-31 9:48 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
>>> your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
>>> warmers in your bathroom.
>>>
>> Don't forget the heated steering wheel too.
>
> My wife used to rave about the seat warmer in her friend's car was. I
> had little interest in that option, figuring that the seat warms up
> within a couple minutes. I have changed my mind on that. My CRV came
> with seat warmers and I have to say it's a nice option.

Of course if Bruce lived where the temperatures dropped to well below
the freezing point, he'd appreciate a seat warmer in his car. Or perhaps
he'd opt for a servant to pre-warm it for him.

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On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 8:15:32 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 21:13:43 +1000, Druce >
> wrote:
> >
> >Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
> >your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
> >warmers in your bathroom.
>
> I don't have any of those things! I do leave my computer on 24/24 and
> only turn it off once a week, my guru says that's the best way.
>
No towel warmer or heated seats either. Why do you turn your computer off
once a week? What's the purpose?

Mine goes into the sleep mode but it has an annoying habit of powering
itself off each night. GRRRRRRRRR I won't buy another Asus because of
this and other annoying habits it has.

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Dave, I'm with you on the CRV seat warmers. Now that I'm used to it, I'll never buy a car without. I've had a cracked tailbone and compressed discs for 30 years and I use the seat warmer even with the AC on. I find that it relaxes the back muscles enough that I don't have to cut my shopping short..

Denise in NH

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On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 9:48:56 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/31/2018 7:13 AM, Druce wrote:
> > On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 04:08:48 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 6:49:25 AM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:35:02 -0300, wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 00:13:07 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> And the "rfc post of the week" has become the post of eternity.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gad. Absolutely nothing of food interest here!
> >>>>
> >>>> I haven't been cooking anything worth talking about although I plan to
> >>>> cook some Hello Dollies today and a French Onion Tart tomorrow, to
> >>>> take with me on Sunday to a party. We are not having the type of
> >>>> weather that encourages one to turn the oven on - hottest summer on
> >>>> record since 1873 they said the other day.
> >>>
> >>> So you can't make pizza or bake bread on a hot day. People are
> >>> strange.
> >>
> >> I'm reluctant to turn on the oven when the weather is hot. Just
> >> that much more work for my air conditioner, and unnecessary expense
> >> on my electric bill. I avoid running my electric dryer in the middle
> >> of the day, even though it is outside the house's envelope, to relieve
> >> stress on the power grid. A drop in the bucket, to be sure, but the
> >> sea is made of drops.
> >
> > Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
> > your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
> > warmers in your bathroom.
> >
> Don't forget the heated steering wheel too.

Should I tell him about the heated toilet seat? ;)

Cindy Hamilton

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 08:06:23 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 8:15:32 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 21:13:43 +1000, Druce >
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
>> >your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
>> >warmers in your bathroom.
>>
>> I don't have any of those things! I do leave my computer on 24/24 and
>> only turn it off once a week, my guru says that's the best way.
>>
>No towel warmer or heated seats either. Why do you turn your computer off
>once a week? What's the purpose?
>
>Mine goes into the sleep mode but it has an annoying habit of powering
>itself off each night. GRRRRRRRRR I won't buy another Asus because of
>this and other annoying habits it has.

I have one of those screen/all in one combo and use a cordless mouse
and keyboard with it. I bought a Dell and had never realised until my
Guru pointed it out, nothing stopping one saying you are business and
not using their 'home' computer section! I do, in fact, do some
computer work online for my bridge club :) He said turn it off once
a week as the rebooting sort of refreshes everything and puts some
little things in line again. I used to switch off every night but he
told me that was 'old' thinking now :)

If you are thinking of replacing your Asus look at the business
section of Dell, I had picked one in the home section without thinking
and when I asked his verdict on it he pointed me to this one. It's
been flawless and should see me out hopefully :)

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> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 08:06:23 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>>On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 8:15:32 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 21:13:43 +1000, Druce >
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
>>> >your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
>>> >warmers in your bathroom.
>>>
>>> I don't have any of those things! I do leave my computer on 24/24 and
>>> only turn it off once a week, my guru says that's the best way.
>>>
>>No towel warmer or heated seats either. Why do you turn your computer off
>>once a week? What's the purpose?
>>
>>Mine goes into the sleep mode but it has an annoying habit of powering
>>itself off each night. GRRRRRRRRR I won't buy another Asus because of
>>this and other annoying habits it has.
>
> I have one of those screen/all in one combo and use a cordless mouse
> and keyboard with it. I bought a Dell and had never realised until my
> Guru pointed it out, nothing stopping one saying you are business and
> not using their 'home' computer section! I do, in fact, do some
> computer work online for my bridge club :) He said turn it off once
> a week as the rebooting sort of refreshes everything and puts some
> little things in line again. I used to switch off every night but he
> told me that was 'old' thinking now :)



I still switch mine off every night...oh wait. :)

Cheri

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 08:06:23 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 8:15:32 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 21:13:43 +1000, Druce >
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
>> >your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
>> >warmers in your bathroom.
>>
>> I don't have any of those things! I do leave my computer on 24/24 and
>> only turn it off once a week, my guru says that's the best way.
>>
>No towel warmer or heated seats either. Why do you turn your computer off
>once a week? What's the purpose?
>
rebooting your electronics is a good plan. It dumps all the dust
balls. Doesn't your cell phone remind you to do a shut down once a
week.?
Janet US

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On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 5:06:28 AM UTC-10, wrote:

> No towel warmer or heated seats either. Why do you turn your computer off
> once a week? What's the purpose?
>
> Mine goes into the sleep mode but it has an annoying habit of powering
> itself off each night. GRRRRRRRRR I won't buy another Asus because of
> this and other annoying habits it has.

I like to turn my Windows computer off when I can to save some money on electricity. OTOH, the system will go into sleep mode if I don't shut it down. As far as I know, most systems will allow you to configure your power management to never power down your computer/monitor. The price of electricity is high here so every little bit helps.

My father-in-law used to leave his computers at home on 24/7. He was an old computer guy. That must have been expensive although he probably was compensated for the electricity in some way. That's just what old computer folks do. Force of habit I guess. I wonder if he'd still do that if he was alive today.

Windows will typically get wonky after running for a while and rebooting the computer is the classic way to get programs that won't run or won't stop running to behave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn2FB1P_Mn8

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 09:30:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 08:06:23 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 8:15:32 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 21:13:43 +1000, Druce >
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
>>>> >your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
>>>> >warmers in your bathroom.
>>>>
>>>> I don't have any of those things! I do leave my computer on 24/24 and
>>>> only turn it off once a week, my guru says that's the best way.
>>>>
>>>No towel warmer or heated seats either. Why do you turn your computer off
>>>once a week? What's the purpose?
>>>
>>>Mine goes into the sleep mode but it has an annoying habit of powering
>>>itself off each night. GRRRRRRRRR I won't buy another Asus because of
>>>this and other annoying habits it has.
>>
>> I have one of those screen/all in one combo and use a cordless mouse
>> and keyboard with it. I bought a Dell and had never realised until my
>> Guru pointed it out, nothing stopping one saying you are business and
>> not using their 'home' computer section! I do, in fact, do some
>> computer work online for my bridge club :) He said turn it off once
>> a week as the rebooting sort of refreshes everything and puts some
>> little things in line again. I used to switch off every night but he
>> told me that was 'old' thinking now :)
>
>
>
>I still switch mine off every night...oh wait. :)
>
>Cheri

I said I also did it for power saving and he said in sleep mode it's
not significant. I think he knows whereof he speaks, has his own
company and in addition is the son of a school friend of mine, so he
wouldn't dare incur wrath from us both :)

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:44:42 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 08:06:23 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 8:15:32 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 21:13:43 +1000, Druce >
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
>>> >your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
>>> >warmers in your bathroom.
>>>
>>> I don't have any of those things! I do leave my computer on 24/24 and
>>> only turn it off once a week, my guru says that's the best way.
>>>
>>No towel warmer or heated seats either. Why do you turn your computer off
>>once a week? What's the purpose?
>>
>rebooting your electronics is a good plan. It dumps all the dust
>balls. Doesn't your cell phone remind you to do a shut down once a
>week.?
>Janet US

I do that twice a week, puts you higher up the pecking order.

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On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 6:44:48 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> rebooting your electronics is a good plan. It dumps all the dust
> balls. Doesn't your cell phone remind you to do a shut down once a
> week.?
> Janet US

Sometimes, the best thing, or the only thing to do is to reload Windows. I would typically do it with my work computers every 2 years or so. Now that got rid of all the cobwebs and dust balls real good.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2364...ike-a-pro.html

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> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 09:30:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 08:06:23 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 8:15:32 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 21:13:43 +1000, Druce >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
>>>>> >your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
>>>>> >warmers in your bathroom.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have any of those things! I do leave my computer on 24/24 and
>>>>> only turn it off once a week, my guru says that's the best way.
>>>>>
>>>>No towel warmer or heated seats either. Why do you turn your computer
>>>>off
>>>>once a week? What's the purpose?
>>>>
>>>>Mine goes into the sleep mode but it has an annoying habit of powering
>>>>itself off each night. GRRRRRRRRR I won't buy another Asus because of
>>>>this and other annoying habits it has.
>>>
>>> I have one of those screen/all in one combo and use a cordless mouse
>>> and keyboard with it. I bought a Dell and had never realised until my
>>> Guru pointed it out, nothing stopping one saying you are business and
>>> not using their 'home' computer section! I do, in fact, do some
>>> computer work online for my bridge club :) He said turn it off once
>>> a week as the rebooting sort of refreshes everything and puts some
>>> little things in line again. I used to switch off every night but he
>>> told me that was 'old' thinking now :)
>>
>>
>>
>>I still switch mine off every night...oh wait. :)
>>
>>Cheri
>
> I said I also did it for power saving and he said in sleep mode it's
> not significant. I think he knows whereof he speaks, has his own
> company and in addition is the son of a school friend of mine, so he
> wouldn't dare incur wrath from us both :)


I had someone years ago tell me that it was harder on the computer to
continually power it up and down that it is to just leave it on 24/7. I
guess because I'm old now I just see electricity waste even though I pretty
much know it's negligible, or maybe I hear my folks yelling "turn that light
off if you're through in there, when you pay the light bill around here you
can leave them on as long as you want to.":)

Cheri

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 06:03:58 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 7:13:47 AM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 04:08:48 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 6:49:25 AM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:35:02 -0300, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 00:13:07 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>And the "rfc post of the week" has become the post of eternity.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Gad. Absolutely nothing of food interest here!
>> >> >
>> >> >I haven't been cooking anything worth talking about although I plan to
>> >> >cook some Hello Dollies today and a French Onion Tart tomorrow, to
>> >> >take with me on Sunday to a party. We are not having the type of
>> >> >weather that encourages one to turn the oven on - hottest summer on
>> >> >record since 1873 they said the other day.
>> >>
>> >> So you can't make pizza or bake bread on a hot day. People are
>> >> strange.
>> >
>> >I'm reluctant to turn on the oven when the weather is hot. Just
>> >that much more work for my air conditioner, and unnecessary expense
>> >on my electric bill. I avoid running my electric dryer in the middle
>> >of the day, even though it is outside the house's envelope, to relieve
>> >stress on the power grid. A drop in the bucket, to be sure, but the
>> >sea is made of drops.
>>
>> Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
>> your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
>> warmers in your bathroom.
>
>Not entirely. We generally run the A/C 24/7 because my husband has
>asthma. The house is open now because we're enjoying a very mild
>17 C morning. No laptops; I'm typing on a desktop running Fedora 28.
>No bum warmers or towel warmers, although you're the wimp who can't
>stand cold weather.

And you're the wimp who can't stand hot weather. Do you like talking
like this?

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:12:56 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 21:13:43 +1000, Druce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 04:08:48 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 6:49:25 AM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:35:02 -0300, wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 00:13:07 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>And the "rfc post of the week" has become the post of eternity.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Gad. Absolutely nothing of food interest here!
>>>> >
>>>> >I haven't been cooking anything worth talking about although I plan to
>>>> >cook some Hello Dollies today and a French Onion Tart tomorrow, to
>>>> >take with me on Sunday to a party. We are not having the type of
>>>> >weather that encourages one to turn the oven on - hottest summer on
>>>> >record since 1873 they said the other day.
>>>>
>>>> So you can't make pizza or bake bread on a hot day. People are
>>>> strange.
>>>
>>>I'm reluctant to turn on the oven when the weather is hot. Just
>>>that much more work for my air conditioner, and unnecessary expense
>>>on my electric bill. I avoid running my electric dryer in the middle
>>>of the day, even though it is outside the house's envelope, to relieve
>>>stress on the power grid. A drop in the bucket, to be sure, but the
>>>sea is made of drops.
>>
>>Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
>>your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
>>warmers in your bathroom.
>
>I don't have any of those things! I do leave my computer on 24/24 and
>only turn it off once a week, my guru says that's the best way.

That's complete nonsense.

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:44:42 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 08:06:23 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 8:15:32 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 21:13:43 +1000, Druce >
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
>>> >your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
>>> >warmers in your bathroom.
>>>
>>> I don't have any of those things! I do leave my computer on 24/24 and
>>> only turn it off once a week, my guru says that's the best way.
>>>
>>No towel warmer or heated seats either. Why do you turn your computer off
>>once a week? What's the purpose?
>>
>rebooting your electronics is a good plan. It dumps all the dust
>balls.

That makes more sense than Lucretia's guru.

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 08:44:33 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2018-08-31 8:33 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-08-31 9:48 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>>> Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
>>>> your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
>>>> warmers in your bathroom.
>>>>
>>> Don't forget the heated steering wheel too.
>>
>> My wife used to rave about the seat warmer in her friend's car was. I
>> had little interest in that option, figuring that the seat warms up
>> within a couple minutes. I have changed my mind on that. My CRV came
>> with seat warmers and I have to say it's a nice option.
>
>Of course if Bruce lived where the temperatures dropped to well below
>the freezing point, he'd appreciate a seat warmer in his car. Or perhaps
>he'd opt for a servant to pre-warm it for him.

No, you're right. That makes a difference.

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:08:47 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 20:49:22 +1000, Druce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:35:02 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 00:13:07 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>And the "rfc post of the week" has become the post of eternity.
>>>>
>>>>Gad. Absolutely nothing of food interest here!
>>>
>>>I haven't been cooking anything worth talking about although I plan to
>>>cook some Hello Dollies today and a French Onion Tart tomorrow, to
>>>take with me on Sunday to a party. We are not having the type of
>>>weather that encourages one to turn the oven on - hottest summer on
>>>record since 1873 they said the other day.
>>
>>So you can't make pizza or bake bread on a hot day. People are
>>strange.
>
>Why? I only eat pizza if there are no other options available and its
>years since I baked bread, I buy a loaf, freeze it and consume a slice
>here and there. One loaf usually lasts a month.

When it's hot here, turning on the oven doesn't make it any hotter,
unless I stand right in front of the oven.

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 12:00:07 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 09:30:09 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
> wrote in message
...
>>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 08:06:23 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 8:15:32 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 21:13:43 +1000, Druce >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
>>>>>> >your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
>>>>>> >warmers in your bathroom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have any of those things! I do leave my computer on 24/24 and
>>>>>> only turn it off once a week, my guru says that's the best way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>No towel warmer or heated seats either. Why do you turn your computer
>>>>>off
>>>>>once a week? What's the purpose?
>>>>>
>>>>>Mine goes into the sleep mode but it has an annoying habit of powering
>>>>>itself off each night. GRRRRRRRRR I won't buy another Asus because of
>>>>>this and other annoying habits it has.
>>>>
>>>> I have one of those screen/all in one combo and use a cordless mouse
>>>> and keyboard with it. I bought a Dell and had never realised until my
>>>> Guru pointed it out, nothing stopping one saying you are business and
>>>> not using their 'home' computer section! I do, in fact, do some
>>>> computer work online for my bridge club :) He said turn it off once
>>>> a week as the rebooting sort of refreshes everything and puts some
>>>> little things in line again. I used to switch off every night but he
>>>> told me that was 'old' thinking now :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I still switch mine off every night...oh wait. :)
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>
>> I said I also did it for power saving and he said in sleep mode it's
>> not significant. I think he knows whereof he speaks, has his own
>> company and in addition is the son of a school friend of mine, so he
>> wouldn't dare incur wrath from us both :)
>
>
>I had someone years ago tell me that it was harder on the computer to
>continually power it up and down that it is to just leave it on 24/7. I
>guess because I'm old now I just see electricity waste even though I pretty
>much know it's negligible, or maybe I hear my folks yelling "turn that light
>off if you're through in there, when you pay the light bill around here you
>can leave them on as long as you want to.":)
>
>Cheri

There is someone on this floor that always leaves the laundry room
light on overnight - I feel outraged when I discover it :) My
grandmother always yelled about it too.

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On Sat, 01 Sep 2018 05:01:13 +1000, Druce >
wrote:

>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:12:56 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 21:13:43 +1000, Druce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 04:08:48 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 6:49:25 AM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:35:02 -0300, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 00:13:07 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>And the "rfc post of the week" has become the post of eternity.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>Gad. Absolutely nothing of food interest here!
>>>>> >
>>>>> >I haven't been cooking anything worth talking about although I plan to
>>>>> >cook some Hello Dollies today and a French Onion Tart tomorrow, to
>>>>> >take with me on Sunday to a party. We are not having the type of
>>>>> >weather that encourages one to turn the oven on - hottest summer on
>>>>> >record since 1873 they said the other day.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you can't make pizza or bake bread on a hot day. People are
>>>>> strange.
>>>>
>>>>I'm reluctant to turn on the oven when the weather is hot. Just
>>>>that much more work for my air conditioner, and unnecessary expense
>>>>on my electric bill. I avoid running my electric dryer in the middle
>>>>of the day, even though it is outside the house's envelope, to relieve
>>>>stress on the power grid. A drop in the bucket, to be sure, but the
>>>>sea is made of drops.
>>>
>>>Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
>>>your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
>>>warmers in your bathroom.
>>
>>I don't have any of those things! I do leave my computer on 24/24 and
>>only turn it off once a week, my guru says that's the best way.
>
>That's complete nonsense.

Really ?? What's your line of work ??

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On Sat, 01 Sep 2018 05:02:32 +1000, Druce >
wrote:

>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:44:42 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 08:06:23 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 8:15:32 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 21:13:43 +1000, Druce >
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
>>>> >your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
>>>> >warmers in your bathroom.
>>>>
>>>> I don't have any of those things! I do leave my computer on 24/24 and
>>>> only turn it off once a week, my guru says that's the best way.
>>>>
>>>No towel warmer or heated seats either. Why do you turn your computer off
>>>once a week? What's the purpose?
>>>
>>rebooting your electronics is a good plan. It dumps all the dust
>>balls.
>
>That makes more sense than Lucretia's guru.

Problems reading??

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 12:00:07 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> wrote in message
.. .
>>
>> I said I also did it for power saving and he said in sleep mode it's
>> not significant. I think he knows whereof he speaks, has his own
>> company and in addition is the son of a school friend of mine, so he
>> wouldn't dare incur wrath from us both :)
>
>
>I had someone years ago tell me that it was harder on the computer to
>continually power it up and down that it is to just leave it on 24/7.

Who continually powers their computer up and down? "I'm going to use
it. No, I'm not. Yes, I am. No, I'm not. Yes, I am. No, I'm not."

>I guess because I'm old now I just see electricity waste even though I pretty
>much know it's negligible, or maybe I hear my folks yelling "turn that light
>off if you're through in there, when you pay the light bill around here you
>can leave them on as long as you want to.":)

I can still hear a voice like that too :)

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:23:35 -0300, wrote:

>On Sat, 01 Sep 2018 05:02:32 +1000, Druce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:44:42 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 08:06:23 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 8:15:32 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 21:13:43 +1000, Druce >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
>>>>> >your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
>>>>> >warmers in your bathroom.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have any of those things! I do leave my computer on 24/24 and
>>>>> only turn it off once a week, my guru says that's the best way.
>>>>>
>>>>No towel warmer or heated seats either. Why do you turn your computer off
>>>>once a week? What's the purpose?
>>>>
>>>rebooting your electronics is a good plan. It dumps all the dust
>>>balls.
>>
>>That makes more sense than Lucretia's guru.
>
>Problems reading??

Hey, I don't want to come between you and your guru. That's always a
bad place to be :)

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:22:53 -0300, wrote:

>On Sat, 01 Sep 2018 05:01:13 +1000, Druce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:12:56 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 21:13:43 +1000, Druce >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
>>>>your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
>>>>warmers in your bathroom.
>>>
>>>I don't have any of those things! I do leave my computer on 24/24 and
>>>only turn it off once a week, my guru says that's the best way.
>>
>>That's complete nonsense.
>
>Really ?? What's your line of work ??

There's no one in this newsgroup who uses computers more than me. Not
that that proves anything.

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On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 2:43:49 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 6:44:48 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > rebooting your electronics is a good plan. It dumps all the dust
> > balls. Doesn't your cell phone remind you to do a shut down once a
> > week.?
> > Janet US
>
> Sometimes, the best thing, or the only thing to do is to reload Windows. I would typically do it with my work computers every 2 years or so. Now that got rid of all the cobwebs and dust balls real good.
>
> https://www.pcworld.com/article/2364...ike-a-pro.html

I've got PCs at work that have been running for more than 10 years without a
Windows reload.

Cindy Hamilton

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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 2:43:49 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 6:44:48 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> > rebooting your electronics is a good plan. It dumps all the dust
>> > balls. Doesn't your cell phone remind you to do a shut down once a
>> > week.?
>> > Janet US
>>
>> Sometimes, the best thing, or the only thing to do is to reload Windows.
>> I would typically do it with my work computers every 2 years or so. Now
>> that got rid of all the cobwebs and dust balls real good.
>>
>> https://www.pcworld.com/article/2364...ike-a-pro.html
>
> I've got PCs at work that have been running for more than 10 years without
> a
> Windows reload.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


I've had Vista since 2007, never reloaded any computers, still using Win98
for games, music etc. Defrag 98 once in awhile, that's it.

Cheri

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Druce wrote:
>
> U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >rebooting your electronics is a good plan. It dumps all the dust
> >balls.
>
> That makes more sense than Lucretia's guru.

I suspect Lucretia's guru might be John Kuthe.

When I'm home for the weekend or longer, my computer stays on.
When I go to work, it gets turned off in the morning and then
again the next morning when I leave for more work. Any computer
benefits from a complete cold start now and then.

As far as turning off and on each day will wear something out,
that's nonsense. Just like telling to leave their tv on 24/7 so
they don't wear out the on/off switch. The only thing I never
turn off here is the fridge.

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On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 3:05:08 PM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:08:47 -0300, wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 20:49:22 +1000, Druce >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:35:02 -0300, wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 00:13:07 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>And the "rfc post of the week" has become the post of eternity.
> >>>>
> >>>>Gad. Absolutely nothing of food interest here!
> >>>
> >>>I haven't been cooking anything worth talking about although I plan to
> >>>cook some Hello Dollies today and a French Onion Tart tomorrow, to
> >>>take with me on Sunday to a party. We are not having the type of
> >>>weather that encourages one to turn the oven on - hottest summer on
> >>>record since 1873 they said the other day.
> >>
> >>So you can't make pizza or bake bread on a hot day. People are
> >>strange.
> >
> >Why? I only eat pizza if there are no other options available and its
> >years since I baked bread, I buy a loaf, freeze it and consume a slice
> >here and there. One loaf usually lasts a month.
>
> When it's hot here, turning on the oven doesn't make it any hotter,
> unless I stand right in front of the oven.

The heat from my oven is exhausted into the kitchen. There's a vent
at the back of the range. I can turn on the fan on the hood over
the range, but that just pulls in hot, humid air from outdoors. Cooler
than the oven-heated air, but the air-conditioning still has to work
to cool it.

Cindy Hamilton

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On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 3:30:54 PM UTC-4, Druce wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:22:53 -0300, wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 01 Sep 2018 05:01:13 +1000, Druce >
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:12:56 -0300, wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 21:13:43 +1000, Druce >
> >>>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Such complicated lives. But y'all run A/C 24 hours a day and leave
> >>>>your laptops on 24/24. And have bum warmers in your car and towel
> >>>>warmers in your bathroom.
> >>>
> >>>I don't have any of those things! I do leave my computer on 24/24 and
> >>>only turn it off once a week, my guru says that's the best way.
> >>
> >>That's complete nonsense.
> >
> >Really ?? What's your line of work ??
>
> There's no one in this newsgroup who uses computers more than me. Not
> that that proves anything.

Possibly me. I've got 5 PCs in my office, although I rarely use more than
two at a time.

Cindy Hamilton

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On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 11:22:06 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> If you are thinking of replacing your Asus look at the business
> section of Dell, I had picked one in the home section without thinking
> and when I asked his verdict on it he pointed me to this one. It's
> been flawless and should see me out hopefully :)
>
I'm strictly a laptop girl and I bought this one about 18 months ago so
I'm stuck with it a few more years.