On 2018-02-14 3:09 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 9:14:24 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> Lamb shanks are something that I am usually make of point of looking for
>> deals on when I shop. If they are on sale at a good price I grab them.
>> Around here they generally run about $13-16 for a pack of three small
>> shanks. A couple months ago I picked up two nice big ones for a little
>> more than $6. There were delicious braised in stout.
>
> That's a good idea. Beer braised sounds better than wine. Thanks.

I came across the idea on a cooking show somewhere and faked it. Use the
usual braising veggies... carrots, onion and celery, a bit of garlic.
Brown the shanks on all sides then add stout or dark ale and beef broth
and some bay leaf and thyme. Do them low and slow until the meat starts
to fall off the bone. Remove the meat, reduce the liquid, puree it and
then thicken it. I use Knorr Veloutine, but I understand it is hard to
find in the US.

On 2018-02-14 3:35 PM, Doris Night wrote:

> We're having lamb shanks for dinner tonight. Braised in chicken stock,
> white wine, and mirepoix.
>
> I'm serving them with parmesan polenta and a spinach salad. A bottle
> of Australian Shiraz on the side.
>
> I think I paid about $6 each for them.

Sounds great. My mother in law used to do them in chicken stock. She was
the original braising queen. Thank goodness my wife acquired some of
that braising skill. I use chicken stock when I use leftover lamb for a
curry, but I tend to use beef broth for the shanks when I do them.


The ultimate lamb shank recipe is the one I posted as a signature dish
on the RFC web site. The braising liquid involves some tomato, cinnamon,
paprika and hot pepper flakes, and then zucchini and chick peas are
added. It is topped with caramelized onions with ginger, turmeric,
raisins and slivered almonds.

This was a recipe that my wife found in a magazine. We have done it a
few times for people and everyone loved it. A few people in here tried
it and had very positive feedback. I confess that I do the dark ale
braising thing because it is a lot simpler, and it always turns out nicely.

On 2018-02-14 4:06 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Wed 14 Feb 2018 12:16:36p, Dave Smith told us...

>> Lamb shanks are something that I am usually make of point of
>> looking for deals on when I shop. If they are on sale at a good
>> price I grab them. Around here they generally run about $13-16 for
>> a pack of three small shanks. A couple months ago I picked up two
>> nice big ones for a little more than $6. There were delicious
>> braised in stout.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> When I make braised lamb shanks, well browned and braised in a Middle
> Eastern ragout.
>


In that case, you would live the one I mentioned in the previous post. I
had forgotten to add the link for ds1, so I can that here.

http://www.recfoodcooking.org/sigs/D...%20Onions.html

On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 17:39:15 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-02-14 3:35 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>
>> We're having lamb shanks for dinner tonight. Braised in chicken stock,
>> white wine, and mirepoix.
>>
>> I'm serving them with parmesan polenta and a spinach salad. A bottle
>> of Australian Shiraz on the side.
>>
>> I think I paid about $6 each for them.
>
>Sounds great. My mother in law used to do them in chicken stock. She was
>the original braising queen. Thank goodness my wife acquired some of
>that braising skill. I use chicken stock when I use leftover lamb for a
>curry, but I tend to use beef broth for the shanks when I do them.
>
>
>The ultimate lamb shank recipe is the one I posted as a signature dish
>on the RFC web site. The braising liquid involves some tomato, cinnamon,
>paprika and hot pepper flakes, and then zucchini and chick peas are
>added. It is topped with caramelized onions with ginger, turmeric,
>raisins and slivered almonds.

I have a lamb tagine recipe that is similar. Done with shoulder, and
with dried apricots instead of the raisins. The rest of the
ingredients and spices are similar.

I agree, it is pretty good.

Doris

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On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 11:11:45 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> ==
>
> huh I doubt it.

Well, it's still a pretty good idea anyway. As far as your Brussels sprouts
goes, I'm gonna go hunt some down in the store next door. Like you, I only
cook the stuff because my spouse likes it. Thanks!

==

We keep them happy and that is 'A Good Thing')

"Ophelia" wrote:
>"dsi1" wrote:
>Ophelia wrote:
>> ==
>> huh I doubt it.
>
>Well, it's still a pretty good idea anyway. As far as your Brussels sprouts
>goes, I'm gonna go hunt some down in the store next door. Like you, I only
>cook the stuff because my spouse likes it. Thanks!
>==
>We keep them happy and that is 'A Good Thing')

Brussels sprouts at market are typically a couple weeks old and will
be bitter... instead grow your own, rather easy to grow:
https://postimg.org/gallery/2f5kqz4au/
For best flavor and sweet sprouts harvest after the first hard frost.
The only tedious part is snipping off each sprout and removing the
outter leaves. Unless you've tasted freshly harvested you've no idea
how good sprouts can be.

On 2/15/2018 2:53 PM, wrote:
> Brussels sprouts at market are typically a couple weeks old and will
> be bitter... instead grow your own, rather easy to grow:
> https://postimg.org/gallery/2f5kqz4au/
> For best flavor and sweet sprouts harvest after the first hard frost.
> The only tedious part is snipping off each sprout and removing the
> outter leaves. Unless you've tasted freshly harvested you've no idea
> how good sprouts can be.

Not everyone has room for a garden (or an interest in gardening) like
you do. I'm quite sure I've never tasted freshly harvested brussels
sprouts. It doesn't matter because I've always liked them. IMHO, the
key if buying them at the grocery store or vegetable stand is to look
for small sprouts. The larger ones are often bitter. And buy them in
season.

Jill

On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 18:18:50 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 2/15/2018 2:53 PM, wrote:
>> Brussels sprouts at market are typically a couple weeks old and will
>> be bitter... instead grow your own, rather easy to grow:
>> https://postimg.org/gallery/2f5kqz4au/
>> For best flavor and sweet sprouts harvest after the first hard frost.
>> The only tedious part is snipping off each sprout and removing the
>> outter leaves. Unless you've tasted freshly harvested you've no idea
>> how good sprouts can be.
>
>Not everyone has room for a garden (or an interest in gardening) like
>you do. I'm quite sure I've never tasted freshly harvested brussels
>sprouts. It doesn't matter because I've always liked them. IMHO, the
>key if buying them at the grocery store or vegetable stand is to look
>for small sprouts. The larger ones are often bitter. And buy them in
>season.
>
>Jill

In the fall look for brussels sprouts at a farm stand, buy them on the
stalk.

On Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 1:41:41 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> ==
>
> We keep them happy and that is 'A Good Thing')

By keeping those near and dear to us happy, it might be possible to live a life of no regret. That, is a prize most golden. Kung hee fat choy!

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 1:41:41 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> ==
>
> We keep them happy and that is 'A Good Thing')

By keeping those near and dear to us happy, it might be possible to live a
life of no regret. That, is a prize most golden. Kung hee fat choy!

==

Yes) (although i don't have a clue what 'Kung hee fat choy! is)

Ophelia wrote:
>dsi1 wrote:
>Ophelia wrote:
>> ==
>> We keep them happy and that is 'A Good Thing')
>
>By keeping those near and dear to us happy, it might be possible to live a
>life of no regret. That, is a prize most golden. Kung hee fat choy!
>==
>Yes) (although i don't have a clue what 'Kung hee fat choy! is)

It's Pig Hawaiin for Big Niece.

Am Freitag, 16. Februar 2018 18:00:29 UTC+1 schrieb dsi1:
> On Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 1:41:41 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > ==
> >
> > We keep them happy and that is 'A Good Thing')
>
> By keeping those near and dear to us happy, it might be possible to
> live a life of no regret. That, is a prize most golden. Kung hee fat choy!

A Happy New Year to you, too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkuu0Lwb5EM

새해 복 많� 받으세요!

Bye, Sanne.

On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 7:20:52 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> Yes) (although i don't have a clue what 'Kung hee fat choy! is)

It's what we say around here around this time of the Lunar New Year. It wishes that you have a prosperous year.

http://www.hawaiian-culture-stories....-fat-choy.html

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 7:20:52 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> Yes) (although i don't have a clue what 'Kung hee fat choy! is)

It's what we say around here around this time of the Lunar New Year. It
wishes that you have a prosperous year.

http://www.hawaiian-culture-stories....-fat-choy.html

==

Thank you) 'Kung hee fat choy! to you all too))

On 2/15/2018 8:48 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 18:18:50 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/15/2018 2:53 PM, wrote:
>>> Brussels sprouts at market are typically a couple weeks old and will
>>> be bitter... instead grow your own, rather easy to grow:
>>> https://postimg.org/gallery/2f5kqz4au/
>>> For best flavor and sweet sprouts harvest after the first hard frost.
>>> The only tedious part is snipping off each sprout and removing the
>>> outter leaves. Unless you've tasted freshly harvested you've no idea
>>> how good sprouts can be.
>>
>> Not everyone has room for a garden (or an interest in gardening) like
>> you do. I'm quite sure I've never tasted freshly harvested brussels
>> sprouts. It doesn't matter because I've always liked them. IMHO, the
>> key if buying them at the grocery store or vegetable stand is to look
>> for small sprouts. The larger ones are often bitter. And buy them in
>> season.
>>
>> Jill
>
> In the fall look for brussels sprouts at a farm stand, buy them on the
> stalk.
>
I've never seen them sold on the stalk, even at the farm stands. They
sell them loose. That's okay. Beats the heck out of some of the
packages at the grocery store... you know what I mean, packed in little
cardboard cartons with plastic over the top. You can't really see what
you're buying. Regardless of where I buy them, I buy the loose ones so
I can select them myself.

Jill

On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 8:14:04 AM UTC-10, sanne wrote:
>
> A Happy New Year to you, too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkuu0Lwb5EM
>
> 새해 복 많� 받으세요!
>
> Bye, Sanne.

They should have never let those dogs out! Here's some kim chee fried rice made with Filipino longanisa. The kim chee was quite sour and the longanisa was quite sweet. It just plain works!

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...1hq5cJFxA2NHY3

On 2018-02-16 4:28 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/15/2018 8:48 PM, wrote:

> I've never seen them sold on the stalk, even at the farm stands.Â* They
> sell them loose.Â* That's okay.Â* Beats the heck out of some of the
> packages at the grocery store... you know what I mean, packed in little
> cardboard cartons with plastic over the top.Â* You can't really see what
> you're buying.Â* Regardless of where I buy them, I buy the loose ones so
> I can select them myself.



I can't say that I have never seen them on the stalk, but it has been so
long that I can't remember when or where it was. I don't think I have
ever seen them fresh in a bag. We occasionally buy them frozen, and
they're not bad.

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 8:14:04 AM UTC-10, sanne wrote:
>
> A Happy New Year to you, too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkuu0Lwb5EM
>
> 새해 복 많� 받으세요!
>
> Bye, Sanne.

They should have never let those dogs out! Here's some kim chee fried rice
made with Filipino longanisa. The kim chee was quite sour and the longanisa
was quite sweet. It just plain works!

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...1hq5cJFxA2NHY3

====

ʻO ka Hauʻoli Hou i�ʻoe )

On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:47:04 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-02-16 4:28 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 2/15/2018 8:48 PM, wrote:
>
>> I've never seen them sold on the stalk, even at the farm stands.* They
>> sell them loose.* That's okay.* Beats the heck out of some of the
>> packages at the grocery store... you know what I mean, packed in little
>> cardboard cartons with plastic over the top.* You can't really see what
>> you're buying.* Regardless of where I buy them, I buy the loose ones so
>> I can select them myself.
>
>
>
>I can't say that I have never seen them on the stalk, but it has been so
>long that I can't remember when or where it was. I don't think I have
>ever seen them fresh in a bag. We occasionally buy them frozen, and
>they're not bad.

I've seen them at Trader Joe's at Thanksgiving season
Janet US

Am Freitag, 16. Februar 2018 22:32:31 UTC+1 schrieb dsi1:
> On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 8:14:04 AM UTC-10, sanne wrote:
> >
> > A Happy New Year to you, too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkuu0Lwb5EM
> >
> > 새해 복 많� 받으세요!
> >
> > Bye, Sanne.
>
> They should have never let those dogs out!

Year of the dog... ;-)

> Here's some kim chee fried rice made with Filipino longanisa.
> The kim chee was quite sour and the longanisa was quite sweet.
> It just plain works!

> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...1hq5cJFxA2NHY3

Of course it does! Kimchi fried rice is a very "forgiving" dish (in a
good way).

Bye, Sanne.

On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 11:49:46 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> ====
>
> ʻO ka Hauʻoli Hou i�ʻoe )

And a happy new year to you too!

http://www.staradvertiser.com/2018/0...ingham-palace/

On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 1:12:39 PM UTC-10, sanne wrote:
>
> Of course it does! Kimchi fried rice is a very "forgiving" dish (in a
> good way).
>
> Bye, Sanne.

The problem was with the sausage - it was way too sweet. Longanisa is good stuff but I have to find a brand that's not as sweet. Kim chee fried rice is a popular item in restaurants here. I guess we're just lucky.

http://pigpartsandbeer.com/longanisa/

On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:47:04 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-02-16 4:28 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 2/15/2018 8:48 PM, wrote:
>
>> I've never seen them sold on the stalk, even at the farm stands.* They
>> sell them loose.* That's okay.* Beats the heck out of some of the
>> packages at the grocery store... you know what I mean, packed in little
>> cardboard cartons with plastic over the top.* You can't really see what
>> you're buying.* Regardless of where I buy them, I buy the loose ones so
>> I can select them myself.
>
>
>
>I can't say that I have never seen them on the stalk, but it has been so
>long that I can't remember when or where it was. I don't think I have
>ever seen them fresh in a bag. We occasionally buy them frozen, and
>they're not bad.

There are about 5 farm stands within spiting distance from Picton that
sell them on the stalk - last year they were $3. In fact, the local No
Frills even carries them. You get quite a few sprouts for your money,
and they are MUCH better than the loose ones.

Doris

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 11:49:46 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> ====
>
> ʻO ka Hauʻoli Hou i�ʻoe )

And a happy new year to you too!

http://www.staradvertiser.com/2018/0...ingham-palace/

==


Oh dear. Is Robinson a regular Hawaiian name then?

My Grandmother's maiden name was Robinson)

On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 21:30:30 -0500, Doris Night
> wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:47:04 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2018-02-16 4:28 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 2/15/2018 8:48 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> I've never seen them sold on the stalk, even at the farm stands.* They
>>> sell them loose.* That's okay.* Beats the heck out of some of the
>>> packages at the grocery store... you know what I mean, packed in little
>>> cardboard cartons with plastic over the top.* You can't really see what
>>> you're buying.* Regardless of where I buy them, I buy the loose ones so
>>> I can select them myself.
>>
>>
>>
>>I can't say that I have never seen them on the stalk, but it has been so
>>long that I can't remember when or where it was. I don't think I have
>>ever seen them fresh in a bag. We occasionally buy them frozen, and
>>they're not bad.
>
>There are about 5 farm stands within spiting distance from Picton that
>sell them on the stalk - last year they were $3. In fact, the local No
>Frills even carries them. You get quite a few sprouts for your money,
>and they are MUCH better than the loose ones.
>
>Doris

Agreed it keeps them fresh longer.

On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 1:32:10 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> Oh dear. Is Robinson a regular Hawaiian name then?
>
> My Grandmother's maiden name was Robinson)

It was just strange to see a guy from my town in an article from the UK. That's a major loss of face for everyone involved. You guys are to be commended for your restraint.

The name "Robinson" is not particularly Hawaiian, except in one major case. Perhaps you have have some ties to this island.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b096729155e13a

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 1:32:10 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> Oh dear. Is Robinson a regular Hawaiian name then?
>
> My Grandmother's maiden name was Robinson)

It was just strange to see a guy from my town in an article from the UK.
That's a major loss of face for everyone involved. You guys are to be
commended for your restraint.

The name "Robinson" is not particularly Hawaiian, except in one major case.
Perhaps you have have some ties to this island.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b096729155e13a

==

What a fascinating story! It would be lovely to think my family were part
of that)

On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 9:25:12 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> ==
>
> What a fascinating story! It would be lovely to think my family were part
> of that)

We also have this guy that's trying to do the exact opposite. Completely change the environment and people of an isolated community. It's unclear what's the expected outcome of this remarkable social experiment is. The island has several beautiful, new, resort hotels. What it doesn't have is tourists to occupy them.

I was there on the island a few years ago, before we came back, we went to a brand new, shiny, convenience store and picked ups some snacks. A rich haole guy got out of a Mercedes, came in, bought some stuff and left. It was weird to see a guy like that in such a setting. That guy needed to dress down - in more ways than one! The store itself was quite out-of-place too. Your local convenience story would look out of place too if it was built using the best and shiniest materials money could buy. That's rich guys for you.. Instead of playing video games like Populous, they just buy and island and play God with the locals.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...y-lanai-hawaii

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 9:25:12 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> ==
>
> What a fascinating story! It would be lovely to think my family were part
> of that)

We also have this guy that's trying to do the exact opposite. Completely
change the environment and people of an isolated community. It's unclear
what's the expected outcome of this remarkable social experiment is. The
island has several beautiful, new, resort hotels. What it doesn't have is
tourists to occupy them.

I was there on the island a few years ago, before we came back, we went to a
brand new, shiny, convenience store and picked ups some snacks. A rich haole
guy got out of a Mercedes, came in, bought some stuff and left. It was weird
to see a guy like that in such a setting. That guy needed to dress down - in
more ways than one! The store itself was quite out-of-place too. Your local
convenience story would look out of place too if it was built using the best
and shiniest materials money could buy. That's rich guys for you. Instead of
playing video games like Populous, they just buy and island and play God
with the locals.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...y-lanai-hawaii

==

Oh dear! Well it is no Niihau, is it!

writes:
>On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 16:47:04 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2018-02-16 4:28 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 2/15/2018 8:48 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> I've never seen them sold on the stalk, even at the farm stands. They
>>> sell them loose. That's okay. Beats the heck out of some of the
>>> packages at the grocery store... you know what I mean, packed in little
>>> cardboard cartons with plastic over the top. You can't really see what
>>> you're buying. Regardless of where I buy them, I buy the loose ones so
>>> I can select them myself.
>>
>>
>>
>>I can't say that I have never seen them on the stalk, but it has been so
>>long that I can't remember when or where it was. I don't think I have
>>ever seen them fresh in a bag. We occasionally buy them frozen, and
>>they're not bad.
>
>There are about 5 farm stands within spiting distance from Picton that
>sell them on the stalk - last year they were $3. In fact, the local No
>Frills even carries them. You get quite a few sprouts for your money,
>and they are MUCH better than the loose ones.
>
>Doris

they sell them on the stalk all over the place around here when in season

On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 11:59:30 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> ==
>
> Oh dear! Well it is no Niihau, is it!

Once again, money talks and da Hawaiians walk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6_RyE6XZiw

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 11:59:30 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> ==
>
> Oh dear! Well it is no Niihau, is it!

Once again, money talks and da Hawaiians walk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6_RyE6XZiw

==

Yes I had heard about that Has it been resolved yet? Is he still making
people homeless?

He ought to be ashamed!

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 11:29:53 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> ==
>
> Yes I had heard about that Has it been resolved yet? Is he still making
> people homeless?
>
> He ought to be ashamed!

The outcome is that Mr. Zuckerberg will carve out his little niche in paradise. What I'd like the resolution to be is that he gives the land back to the locals and adds something to it that will enrich their lives. The people have made him rich so that seems only fair. OTOH, Mr. Zuckerberg et. al., have done damage to our society and even our perception of reality.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarz...e-of-fake-news

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 11:29:53 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> ==
>
> Yes I had heard about that Has it been resolved yet? Is he still
> making
> people homeless?
>
> He ought to be ashamed!

The outcome is that Mr. Zuckerberg will carve out his little niche in
paradise. What I'd like the resolution to be is that he gives the land back
to the locals and adds something to it that will enrich their lives. The
people have made him rich so that seems only fair. OTOH, Mr. Zuckerberg et.
al., have done damage to our society and even our perception of reality.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarz...e-of-fake-news

==

I totally agree. Is it likely?

On Friday, February 23, 2018 at 3:27:40 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 11:29:53 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > ==
> >
> > Yes I had heard about that Has it been resolved yet? Is he still making
> > people homeless?
> >
> > He ought to be ashamed!
>
> The outcome is that Mr. Zuckerberg will carve out his little niche in paradise. What I'd like the resolution to be is that he gives the land back to the locals and adds something to it that will enrich their lives. The people have made him rich so that seems only fair. OTOH, Mr. Zuckerberg et. al., have done damage to our society and even our perception of reality.

Only if you believe the shit that gets tweeted and posted.

Honestly, when I read the details of the Mueller indictment, I concluded
that if people are going to believe what they read on Facebook and
Twitter, we have exactly the government (at all levels) that we deserve.
Time to roll it up and give it back to the original owners.

Cindy Hamilton