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[email protected][_2_] 05-12-2017 09:20 PM

Parsnips ... again
 

Tell me again what a parsnip is *supposed* to taste like. I just
roasted the one I bought and it was incredibly bland, like eating
nothing.

I washed it, split in half, tossed in safflower oil and salted it.
Into the oven it went but came out bland; the butter I smeared
on it was good, though.

Dave Smith[_1_] 05-12-2017 10:17 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On 2017-12-05 4:20 PM, wrote:
>
> Tell me again what a parsnip is *supposed* to taste like. I just
> roasted the one I bought and it was incredibly bland, like eating
> nothing.


When roasted they should have some of the parsnip sharpness, but
tempered by the sweetness. The more well done they are the nicer the
flavour.




> I washed it, split in half, tossed in safflower oil and salted it.
> Into the oven it went but came out bland; the butter I smeared
> on it was good, though.


Did you roast them until the outside was dark and developed a bit of a
crust?





Casa del Sol naciente 05-12-2017 10:28 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On 12/5/2017 2:20 PM, wrote:
>
> Tell me again what a parsnip is *supposed* to taste like. I just
> roasted the one I bought and it was incredibly bland, like eating
> nothing.
>
> I washed it, split in half, tossed in safflower oil and salted it.
> Into the oven it went but came out bland; the butter I smeared
> on it was good, though.
>


You should have a slightly carrot-like taste and good texture.

Some herbs always help, dill is nice.

Bruce[_28_] 05-12-2017 10:43 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 13:20:13 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>
>Tell me again what a parsnip is *supposed* to taste like. I just
>roasted the one I bought and it was incredibly bland, like eating
>nothing.
>
>I washed it, split in half, tossed in safflower oil and salted it.
>Into the oven it went but came out bland; the butter I smeared
>on it was good, though.


Why are so many people who are better cooks than me, unable to make a
parsnip taste good? It's really very simple.

Dave Smith[_1_] 05-12-2017 11:33 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On 2017-12-05 5:43 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 13:20:13 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:


>> I washed it, split in half, tossed in safflower oil and salted it.
>> Into the oven it went but came out bland; the butter I smeared
>> on it was good, though.

>
> Why are so many people who are better cooks than me, unable to make a
> parsnip taste good? It's really very simple.


That should be the question of the day. IMO, they are horrible but
delicious when roasted. All you have to do is clean them up, trim them
down to equal size and roast.




Bruce[_28_] 05-12-2017 11:35 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 18:33:16 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-12-05 5:43 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 13:20:13 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote:

>
>>> I washed it, split in half, tossed in safflower oil and salted it.
>>> Into the oven it went but came out bland; the butter I smeared
>>> on it was good, though.

>>
>> Why are so many people who are better cooks than me, unable to make a
>> parsnip taste good? It's really very simple.

>
>That should be the question of the day. IMO, they are horrible but
>delicious when roasted. All you have to do is clean them up, trim them
>down to equal size and roast.


Yes, bit of salt, bit of oil and Bob's your uncle.

[email protected][_2_] 06-12-2017 12:15 AM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 5:31:41 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2017-12-05 5:43 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 13:20:13 -0800 (PST), "
> > > wrote:

>
> >> I washed it, split in half, tossed in safflower oil and salted it.
> >> Into the oven it went but came out bland; the butter I smeared
> >> on it was good, though.

> >
> > Why are so many people who are better cooks than me, unable to make a
> > parsnip taste good? It's really very simple.

>

Maybe because it's not a good tasting vegetable to begin with?
Maybe because your taste buds are different than mine?
>
> That should be the question of the day. IMO, they are horrible but
> delicious when roasted. All you have to do is clean them up, trim them
> down to equal size and roast.
>

It was absolutely bland, like eating nothing after being roasted to a
deep brown, no carrot flavor, no 'parsnip' flavor (whatever the hell
that is) no sharpness, no sweetness, absolutely n-o-t-h-I-n-g. Maybe
this is why they were never on the table when I was child, why it was
on nobody's table that I've ever known.

It is a vegetable that I will not revisit.

Bruce[_28_] 06-12-2017 12:29 AM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 16:15:42 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 5:31:41 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2017-12-05 5:43 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 13:20:13 -0800 (PST), "
>> > > wrote:

>>
>> >> I washed it, split in half, tossed in safflower oil and salted it.
>> >> Into the oven it went but came out bland; the butter I smeared
>> >> on it was good, though.
>> >
>> > Why are so many people who are better cooks than me, unable to make a
>> > parsnip taste good? It's really very simple.

>>

>Maybe because it's not a good tasting vegetable to begin with?
>Maybe because your taste buds are different than mine?
>>
>> That should be the question of the day. IMO, they are horrible but
>> delicious when roasted. All you have to do is clean them up, trim them
>> down to equal size and roast.
>>

>It was absolutely bland, like eating nothing after being roasted to a
>deep brown, no carrot flavor, no 'parsnip' flavor (whatever the hell
>that is) no sharpness, no sweetness, absolutely n-o-t-h-I-n-g. Maybe
>this is why they were never on the table when I was child, why it was
>on nobody's table that I've ever known.
>
>It is a vegetable that I will not revisit.


The way you describe it, you must have done something wrong cooking
it. But I think one can live a happy life without eating many
parsnips, so I wouldn't worry.

Hank Rogers 06-12-2017 01:42 AM

Parsnips ... again
 
wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 5:31:41 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2017-12-05 5:43 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 13:20:13 -0800 (PST), "
>>> > wrote:

>>
>>>> I washed it, split in half, tossed in safflower oil and salted it.
>>>> Into the oven it went but came out bland; the butter I smeared
>>>> on it was good, though.
>>>
>>> Why are so many people who are better cooks than me, unable to make a
>>> parsnip taste good? It's really very simple.

>>

> Maybe because it's not a good tasting vegetable to begin with?
> Maybe because your taste buds are different than mine?
>>
>> That should be the question of the day. IMO, they are horrible but
>> delicious when roasted. All you have to do is clean them up, trim them
>> down to equal size and roast.
>>

> It was absolutely bland, like eating nothing after being roasted to a
> deep brown, no carrot flavor, no 'parsnip' flavor (whatever the hell
> that is) no sharpness, no sweetness, absolutely n-o-t-h-I-n-g. Maybe
> this is why they were never on the table when I was child, why it was
> on nobody's table that I've ever known.
>
> It is a vegetable that I will not revisit.
>


Maybe you got a batch of crappy parsnips.

Any fruit or vegetable can be a poor representative of its
species. Tasteless watermelons or strawberries, or bitter
Brussel sprouts. Stringy and tough sweet potatoes. The list
is endless, and you've probably bought something in the past
that was terrible.

I've only had the smaller ones, and never had to remove
cores, just cut into pieces.

If you ever try them again, I hope you have better luck.

On the other hand maybe it is just your individual taste
buds? Like some people love cilantro, but others say it
tastes like soap? Maybe you just can't taste the flavor
compounds in this particular vegetable?




Cindy Hamilton[_2_] 06-12-2017 11:00 AM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 5:43:06 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 13:20:13 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >Tell me again what a parsnip is *supposed* to taste like. I just
> >roasted the one I bought and it was incredibly bland, like eating
> >nothing.
> >
> >I washed it, split in half, tossed in safflower oil and salted it.
> >Into the oven it went but came out bland; the butter I smeared
> >on it was good, though.

>
> Why are so many people who are better cooks than me, unable to make a
> parsnip taste good? It's really very simple.


It could be the parsnips. If they are never subjected to
cold temperatures, they don't have a chance to develop much flavor.

Cindy Hamilton

Julie Bove[_2_] 06-12-2017 11:37 AM

Parsnips ... again
 

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 13:20:13 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>Tell me again what a parsnip is *supposed* to taste like. I just
>>roasted the one I bought and it was incredibly bland, like eating
>>nothing.
>>
>>I washed it, split in half, tossed in safflower oil and salted it.
>>Into the oven it went but came out bland; the butter I smeared
>>on it was good, though.

>
> Why are so many people who are better cooks than me, unable to make a
> parsnip taste good? It's really very simple.


I only tried them once. Added to a stew. I was expecting them to taste like
carrot but they didn't. The flavor was just really horrible.


Bruce[_28_] 06-12-2017 11:42 AM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 03:00:27 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 5:43:06 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 13:20:13 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Tell me again what a parsnip is *supposed* to taste like. I just
>> >roasted the one I bought and it was incredibly bland, like eating
>> >nothing.
>> >
>> >I washed it, split in half, tossed in safflower oil and salted it.
>> >Into the oven it went but came out bland; the butter I smeared
>> >on it was good, though.

>>
>> Why are so many people who are better cooks than me, unable to make a
>> parsnip taste good? It's really very simple.

>
>It could be the parsnips. If they are never subjected to
>cold temperatures, they don't have a chance to develop much flavor.


That could be. I've only had them once. Maybe I had good ones.

Gary 06-12-2017 01:30 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
Bruce wrote:
>
> That could be. I've only had them once. Maybe I had good ones.


Only once? From what you have previously said, I got the
impression that you had them often. I'll try Janet US's recipe if
I ever find such a heinous vegetable. Her method sounds like the
way to go. At least she got good results.

It also sounds like only a stupid farmer would grow them to sell.
Seems that most ppl have never tried them and of those that have,
only a small percent actually enjoyed them.

I already had given up on my plan to move to Montana and raise me
up a crop of dental floss.

And now....so much for my 'parsnip farm' retirement plans. ;-D

[email protected] 06-12-2017 03:32 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 03:37:13 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 13:20:13 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Tell me again what a parsnip is *supposed* to taste like. I just
>>>roasted the one I bought and it was incredibly bland, like eating
>>>nothing.
>>>
>>>I washed it, split in half, tossed in safflower oil and salted it.
>>>Into the oven it went but came out bland; the butter I smeared
>>>on it was good, though.

>>
>> Why are so many people who are better cooks than me, unable to make a
>> parsnip taste good? It's really very simple.

>
>I only tried them once. Added to a stew. I was expecting them to taste like
>carrot but they didn't. The flavor was just really horrible.


I add a small parsnip to stocks, soups, and stews as a flavoring
ingredient, like a bouquet garni, but then the parsnip gets tossed
same as the bouquet garni. I've tried eating cooked parsnip several
times thinking I picked a bad one, but no, the flavor it imparts is
wonderful but I find its texture disgusting, like eating pudding laced
with fine sand. Ye olde tyme green grocers always included a parsnip
bundled with soup greens, however no one ever ate the parsnip.
https://www.nutrition-and-you.com/parsnips.html

U.S. Janet B. 06-12-2017 03:34 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 19:42:34 -0600, Hank Rogers >
wrote:
sniptry them again, I hope you have better luck.
>
>On the other hand maybe it is just your individual taste
>buds? Like some people love cilantro, but others say it
>tastes like soap? Maybe you just can't taste the flavor
>compounds in this particular vegetable?
>
>

After reading this group for decades, I have decided that individual
taste buds vary to the extreme in the common man. I don't know how
professional chefs manage.
Janet US

U.S. Janet B. 06-12-2017 03:36 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Wed, 06 Dec 2017 08:30:25 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> That could be. I've only had them once. Maybe I had good ones.

>
>Only once? From what you have previously said, I got the
>impression that you had them often. I'll try Janet US's recipe if
>I ever find such a heinous vegetable. Her method sounds like the
>way to go. At least she got good results.
>
>It also sounds like only a stupid farmer would grow them to sell.
>Seems that most ppl have never tried them and of those that have,
>only a small percent actually enjoyed them.
>
>I already had given up on my plan to move to Montana and raise me
>up a crop of dental floss.
>
>And now....so much for my 'parsnip farm' retirement plans. ;-D


Don't know if it makes any difference -- but the parsnips I had were
in my fridge for a little more than 2 weeks
Janet US

Ophelia[_14_] 06-12-2017 03:59 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 19:42:34 -0600, Hank Rogers >
wrote:
sniptry them again, I hope you have better luck.
>
>On the other hand maybe it is just your individual taste
>buds? Like some people love cilantro, but others say it
>tastes like soap? Maybe you just can't taste the flavor
>compounds in this particular vegetable?
>
>

After reading this group for decades, I have decided that individual
taste buds vary to the extreme in the common man. I don't know how
professional chefs manage.
Janet US

==
Yes, I don't know how any cooks manage:(



--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk


Casa del Sol naciente 06-12-2017 05:37 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On 12/6/2017 6:30 AM, Gary wrote:
> I already had given up on my plan to move to Montana and raise me
> up a crop of dental floss.
>
> And now....so much for my 'parsnip farm' retirement plans. ;-D


Come now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQvtIgniCsE

Bruce[_28_] 06-12-2017 05:39 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 15:59:28 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
.. .
>
>After reading this group for decades, I have decided that individual
>taste buds vary to the extreme in the common man. I don't know how
>professional chefs manage.
>Janet US
>
>==
>Yes, I don't know how any cooks manage:(


Most people are not as difficult eaters as... uhm... as some other
people :)

Cindy Hamilton[_2_] 06-12-2017 05:40 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 10:36:39 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Dec 2017 08:30:25 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> >Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> That could be. I've only had them once. Maybe I had good ones.

> >
> >Only once? From what you have previously said, I got the
> >impression that you had them often. I'll try Janet US's recipe if
> >I ever find such a heinous vegetable. Her method sounds like the
> >way to go. At least she got good results.
> >
> >It also sounds like only a stupid farmer would grow them to sell.
> >Seems that most ppl have never tried them and of those that have,
> >only a small percent actually enjoyed them.
> >
> >I already had given up on my plan to move to Montana and raise me
> >up a crop of dental floss.
> >
> >And now....so much for my 'parsnip farm' retirement plans. ;-D

>
> Don't know if it makes any difference -- but the parsnips I had were
> in my fridge for a little more than 2 weeks
> Janet US


<https://www.daf.qld.gov.au/plants/fruit-and-vegetables/vegetables/other-vegetable-crops/commercial-production-of-parsnips>

Parsnips can be successfully stored for several months at 0°C and a relative
humidity of 90% to 95%. They should not be stored with ethylene-producing
crops. Storage for two weeks at 1°C can improve flavour by converting starch
into sugars.

Your fridge is about 3 or 4 C.

Cindy Hamilton

Bruce[_28_] 06-12-2017 05:42 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Wed, 06 Dec 2017 08:30:25 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> That could be. I've only had them once. Maybe I had good ones.

>
>Only once? From what you have previously said, I got the
>impression that you had them often.


No, I cooked them once 2 weeks ago and had them for the first time. So
now I'm a parsnip expert, of course.

>I'll try Janet US's recipe if
>I ever find such a heinous vegetable. Her method sounds like the
>way to go. At least she got good results.
>
>It also sounds like only a stupid farmer would grow them to sell.
>Seems that most ppl have never tried them and of those that have,
>only a small percent actually enjoyed them.


We could also have a concentration of very difficult eaters here. And
of people who cook parsnips wrong and then decide that they hate them
:)

Casa del Sol naciente 06-12-2017 05:51 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On 12/6/2017 8:34 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 19:42:34 -0600, Hank Rogers >
> wrote:
> sniptry them again, I hope you have better luck.
>>
>> On the other hand maybe it is just your individual taste
>> buds? Like some people love cilantro, but others say it
>> tastes like soap? Maybe you just can't taste the flavor
>> compounds in this particular vegetable?
>>
>>

> After reading this group for decades, I have decided that individual
> taste buds vary to the extreme in the common man. I don't know how
> professional chefs manage.
> Janet US
>

They have broad menus.

[email protected] 06-12-2017 06:11 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 15:59:28 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 19:42:34 -0600, Hank Rogers >
>wrote:
>sniptry them again, I hope you have better luck.
>>
>>On the other hand maybe it is just your individual taste
>>buds? Like some people love cilantro, but others say it
>>tastes like soap? Maybe you just can't taste the flavor
>>compounds in this particular vegetable?
>>
>>

>After reading this group for decades, I have decided that individual
>taste buds vary to the extreme in the common man. I don't know how
>professional chefs manage.
>Janet US
>
>==
>Yes, I don't know how any cooks manage:(


Very easy, for each ethnicity most all restaurant menus are the same
with most everything cooked the same.... restaurant cooks really don't
practice much creativity, they can't or they won't have a job.

[email protected] 06-12-2017 06:15 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Thu, 07 Dec 2017 04:39:21 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 15:59:28 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>After reading this group for decades, I have decided that individual
>>taste buds vary to the extreme in the common man. I don't know how
>>professional chefs manage.
>>Janet US
>>
>>==
>>Yes, I don't know how any cooks manage:(

>
>Most people are not as difficult eaters as... uhm... as some other
>people :)


Also true... for most fries and a mystery meat burger suffices.

Bruce[_28_] 06-12-2017 06:16 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:11:39 -0500, wrote:

>On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 15:59:28 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 19:42:34 -0600, Hank Rogers >
>>wrote:
>>sniptry them again, I hope you have better luck.
>>>
>>>On the other hand maybe it is just your individual taste
>>>buds? Like some people love cilantro, but others say it
>>>tastes like soap? Maybe you just can't taste the flavor
>>>compounds in this particular vegetable?
>>>
>>>

>>After reading this group for decades, I have decided that individual
>>taste buds vary to the extreme in the common man. I don't know how
>>professional chefs manage.
>>Janet US
>>
>>==
>>Yes, I don't know how any cooks manage:(

>
>Very easy, for each ethnicity most all restaurant menus are the same
>with most everything cooked the same.... restaurant cooks really don't
>practice much creativity, they can't or they won't have a job.


Maybe in "upstate New York".

[email protected] 06-12-2017 06:22 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:51:12 -0700, Casa del Sol naciente
> wrote:

>On 12/6/2017 8:34 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 19:42:34 -0600, Hank Rogers >
>> wrote:
>> sniptry them again, I hope you have better luck.
>>>
>>> On the other hand maybe it is just your individual taste
>>> buds? Like some people love cilantro, but others say it
>>> tastes like soap? Maybe you just can't taste the flavor
>>> compounds in this particular vegetable?
>>>
>>>

>> After reading this group for decades, I have decided that individual
>> taste buds vary to the extreme in the common man. I don't know how
>> professional chefs manage.
>> Janet US
>>

> They have broad menus.


Not... go to any burger joint the menu is a carbon copy, go to any
steak house the menus are carbon copies, seafood joints too,
same with any ethnic restaurant. Only thing that varies is quality
but then so does price.

Bruce[_28_] 06-12-2017 06:22 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:15:57 -0500, wrote:

>On Thu, 07 Dec 2017 04:39:21 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 15:59:28 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>After reading this group for decades, I have decided that individual
>>>taste buds vary to the extreme in the common man. I don't know how
>>>professional chefs manage.
>>>Janet US
>>>
>>>==
>>>Yes, I don't know how any cooks manage:(

>>
>>Most people are not as difficult eaters as... uhm... as some other
>>people :)

>
>Also true... for most fries and a mystery meat burger suffices.


Yes, look at McDonalds, the best restaurant some people will ever see.

Casa del Sol naciente 06-12-2017 07:16 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On 12/6/2017 11:22 AM, wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:51:12 -0700, Casa del Sol naciente
> > wrote:
>
>> On 12/6/2017 8:34 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 19:42:34 -0600, Hank Rogers >
>>> wrote:
>>> sniptry them again, I hope you have better luck.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand maybe it is just your individual taste
>>>> buds? Like some people love cilantro, but others say it
>>>> tastes like soap? Maybe you just can't taste the flavor
>>>> compounds in this particular vegetable?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> After reading this group for decades, I have decided that individual
>>> taste buds vary to the extreme in the common man. I don't know how
>>> professional chefs manage.
>>> Janet US
>>>

>> They have broad menus.

>
> Not... go to any burger joint the menu is a carbon copy, go to any
> steak house the menus are carbon copies, seafood joints too,
> same with any ethnic restaurant. Only thing that varies is quality
> but then so does price.
>


Burger joints are as labeled, but the profusion of near custom chains
like 5 Guys, Smashburger and Red Robin to name a few mean plenty of
options, even Vegan!

And most every steakhouse has fish, chicken and pork on the menu too.

I think you're suffering from the same old least coast stick in the mud
offering syndrome that wrecks your grocers too.

Face it, your neck of the woods is not up to speed with a lot of food
and dining trends, still.

U.S. Janet B. 06-12-2017 07:47 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:22:00 -0500, wrote:

>On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:51:12 -0700, Casa del Sol naciente
> wrote:
>
>>On 12/6/2017 8:34 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 19:42:34 -0600, Hank Rogers >
>>> wrote:
>>> sniptry them again, I hope you have better luck.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand maybe it is just your individual taste
>>>> buds? Like some people love cilantro, but others say it
>>>> tastes like soap? Maybe you just can't taste the flavor
>>>> compounds in this particular vegetable?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> After reading this group for decades, I have decided that individual
>>> taste buds vary to the extreme in the common man. I don't know how
>>> professional chefs manage.
>>> Janet US
>>>

>> They have broad menus.

>
>Not... go to any burger joint the menu is a carbon copy, go to any
>steak house the menus are carbon copies, seafood joints too,
>same with any ethnic restaurant. Only thing that varies is quality
>but then so does price.


but then, I indicated professional chefs, not burger joints or ethnic
restaurants.

U.S. Janet B. 06-12-2017 07:58 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 12:16:00 -0700, Casa del Sol naciente
> wrote:

>On 12/6/2017 11:22 AM, wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:51:12 -0700, Casa del Sol naciente
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/6/2017 8:34 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 19:42:34 -0600, Hank Rogers >
>>>> wrote:
>>>> sniptry them again, I hope you have better luck.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the other hand maybe it is just your individual taste
>>>>> buds? Like some people love cilantro, but others say it
>>>>> tastes like soap? Maybe you just can't taste the flavor
>>>>> compounds in this particular vegetable?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> After reading this group for decades, I have decided that individual
>>>> taste buds vary to the extreme in the common man. I don't know how
>>>> professional chefs manage.
>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>> They have broad menus.

>>
>> Not... go to any burger joint the menu is a carbon copy, go to any
>> steak house the menus are carbon copies, seafood joints too,
>> same with any ethnic restaurant. Only thing that varies is quality
>> but then so does price.
>>

>
>Burger joints are as labeled, but the profusion of near custom chains
>like 5 Guys, Smashburger and Red Robin to name a few mean plenty of
>options, even Vegan!
>
>And most every steakhouse has fish, chicken and pork on the menu too.
>
>I think you're suffering from the same old least coast stick in the mud
>offering syndrome that wrecks your grocers too.
>
>Face it, your neck of the woods is not up to speed with a lot of food
>and dining trends, still.


I was at Red Robin last night. They must have had 15 or so burgers on
the menu. Nothing like the old tired smashed bun with a slash of
mayo, a pickle and a greasy burger. They also had fish and chips, a
nice hunk of cod. Chicken stuff too. These burgers were nothing like
what Sheldon remembers from those places on Long Island.
Janet US

Casa del Sol naciente 06-12-2017 08:01 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On 12/6/2017 12:58 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 12:16:00 -0700, Casa del Sol naciente
> > wrote:
>
>> On 12/6/2017 11:22 AM, wrote:
>>> On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:51:12 -0700, Casa del Sol naciente
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/6/2017 8:34 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 19:42:34 -0600, Hank Rogers >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> sniptry them again, I hope you have better luck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the other hand maybe it is just your individual taste
>>>>>> buds? Like some people love cilantro, but others say it
>>>>>> tastes like soap? Maybe you just can't taste the flavor
>>>>>> compounds in this particular vegetable?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> After reading this group for decades, I have decided that individual
>>>>> taste buds vary to the extreme in the common man. I don't know how
>>>>> professional chefs manage.
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>
>>>> They have broad menus.
>>>
>>> Not... go to any burger joint the menu is a carbon copy, go to any
>>> steak house the menus are carbon copies, seafood joints too,
>>> same with any ethnic restaurant. Only thing that varies is quality
>>> but then so does price.
>>>

>>
>> Burger joints are as labeled, but the profusion of near custom chains
>> like 5 Guys, Smashburger and Red Robin to name a few mean plenty of
>> options, even Vegan!
>>
>> And most every steakhouse has fish, chicken and pork on the menu too.
>>
>> I think you're suffering from the same old least coast stick in the mud
>> offering syndrome that wrecks your grocers too.
>>
>> Face it, your neck of the woods is not up to speed with a lot of food
>> and dining trends, still.

>
> I was at Red Robin last night. They must have had 15 or so burgers on
> the menu. Nothing like the old tired smashed bun with a slash of
> mayo, a pickle and a greasy burger. They also had fish and chips, a
> nice hunk of cod. Chicken stuff too. These burgers were nothing like
> what Sheldon remembers from those places on Long Island.
> Janet US
>


I regularly order their fish "burger", and it is superb, good quality,
properly fried arctic cod:

https://www.redrobin.com/content/dam...cod-burger.jpg



Bruce[_28_] 06-12-2017 08:16 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Wed, 06 Dec 2017 12:47:00 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:22:00 -0500, wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:51:12 -0700, Casa del Sol naciente
> wrote:
>>
>>>On 12/6/2017 8:34 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> After reading this group for decades, I have decided that individual
>>>> taste buds vary to the extreme in the common man. I don't know how
>>>> professional chefs manage.
>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>> They have broad menus.

>>
>>Not... go to any burger joint the menu is a carbon copy, go to any
>>steak house the menus are carbon copies, seafood joints too,
>>same with any ethnic restaurant. Only thing that varies is quality
>>but then so does price.

>
>but then, I indicated professional chefs, not burger joints or ethnic
>restaurants.


Ethnic restaurants don't have professional chefs?

jmcquown[_2_] 06-12-2017 09:28 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On 12/6/2017 6:00 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 5:43:06 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 13:20:13 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Tell me again what a parsnip is *supposed* to taste like. I just
>>> roasted the one I bought and it was incredibly bland, like eating
>>> nothing.
>>>
>>> I washed it, split in half, tossed in safflower oil and salted it.
>>> Into the oven it went but came out bland; the butter I smeared
>>> on it was good, though.

>>
>> Why are so many people who are better cooks than me, unable to make a
>> parsnip taste good? It's really very simple.

>
> It could be the parsnips. If they are never subjected to
> cold temperatures, they don't have a chance to develop much flavor.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Could be she just doesn't like parsnips. At least she gave it a shot.

Jill

jmcquown[_2_] 06-12-2017 09:31 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On 12/6/2017 10:34 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 19:42:34 -0600, Hank Rogers >
> wrote:
> sniptry them again, I hope you have better luck.
>>
>> On the other hand maybe it is just your individual taste
>> buds? Like some people love cilantro, but others say it
>> tastes like soap? Maybe you just can't taste the flavor
>> compounds in this particular vegetable?
>>
>>

> After reading this group for decades, I have decided that individual
> taste buds vary to the extreme in the common man. I don't know how
> professional chefs manage.
> Janet US
>

Perhaps professional chefs just don't serve parsnips. :)

Jill

Dave Smith[_1_] 06-12-2017 09:32 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On 2017-12-06 12:42 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Dec 2017 08:30:25 -0500, Gary > wrote:


>> It also sounds like only a stupid farmer would grow them to sell.
>> Seems that most ppl have never tried them and of those that have,
>> only a small percent actually enjoyed them.

>
> We could also have a concentration of very difficult eaters here. And
> of people who cook parsnips wrong and then decide that they hate them
> :)

I have to admit that there are a number of people with surprisingly
picky food tastes, considering that it is a cooking forum. I have to
say that some people may have no clue about how to cook parsnips and
other vegetables to make them taste good because they had bad
experiences with them as kids and never felt any reason to learn how to
cook them with methods that made them more palatable. I had no interest
in parsnips because I had had them boiled when I was a kid. It never
occurred to me that something that tasted so nasty could actually be
delicious if they were roasts.

My wife discovered roasted parsnips a few years ago and I was reluctant
to try them. I eventually did and I had to agree that they were
delicious. We started eating them with some regularity and I was
enjoying them so much that I thought my taste buds had changed and
perhaps I should give boiled parsnips another try. That was a mistake,
because they were just as bad boiled as they used to be.


How

U.S. Janet B. 06-12-2017 09:35 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 13:01:55 -0700, Casa del Sol naciente
> wrote:

>On 12/6/2017 12:58 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> snip
>>
>> I was at Red Robin last night. They must have had 15 or so burgers on
>> the menu. Nothing like the old tired smashed bun with a slash of
>> mayo, a pickle and a greasy burger. They also had fish and chips, a
>> nice hunk of cod. Chicken stuff too. These burgers were nothing like
>> what Sheldon remembers from those places on Long Island.
>> Janet US
>>

>
>I regularly order their fish "burger", and it is superb, good quality,
>properly fried arctic cod:
>
>https://www.redrobin.com/content/dam...cod-burger.jpg
>

I now have several reasons to go back. Fish & Chips, Fish burger,
Root Beer float and their Mud Pie. ;-}}
Janet US

Bruce[_28_] 06-12-2017 09:38 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 16:32:49 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2017-12-06 12:42 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> We could also have a concentration of very difficult eaters here. And
>> of people who cook parsnips wrong and then decide that they hate them
>> :)

>I have to admit that there are a number of people with surprisingly
>picky food tastes, considering that it is a cooking forum. I have to
>say that some people may have no clue about how to cook parsnips and
>other vegetables to make them taste good because they had bad
>experiences with them as kids and never felt any reason to learn how to
>cook them with methods that made them more palatable. I had no interest
>in parsnips because I had had them boiled when I was a kid. It never
>occurred to me that something that tasted so nasty could actually be
>delicious if they were roasts.
>
>My wife discovered roasted parsnips a few years ago and I was reluctant
>to try them. I eventually did and I had to agree that they were
>delicious. We started eating them with some regularity and I was
>enjoying them so much that I thought my taste buds had changed and
>perhaps I should give boiled parsnips another try. That was a mistake,
>because they were just as bad boiled as they used to be.


I think old school (English/Dutch/boiled style) cooking ruined certain
vegetables for kids. I used to hate red cabbage, endives, kohlrabi,
Brussels sprouts etc. Now I like them because we stir-fry them or have
them raw, depending what it is. I think boiling adds a lot of
bitterness, that children don't like.

Bruce[_28_] 06-12-2017 09:41 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 16:28:50 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/6/2017 6:00 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 5:43:06 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 13:20:13 -0800 (PST), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tell me again what a parsnip is *supposed* to taste like. I just
>>>> roasted the one I bought and it was incredibly bland, like eating
>>>> nothing.
>>>>
>>>> I washed it, split in half, tossed in safflower oil and salted it.
>>>> Into the oven it went but came out bland; the butter I smeared
>>>> on it was good, though.
>>>
>>> Why are so many people who are better cooks than me, unable to make a
>>> parsnip taste good? It's really very simple.

>>
>> It could be the parsnips. If they are never subjected to
>> cold temperatures, they don't have a chance to develop much flavor.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>

>Could be she just doesn't like parsnips. At least she gave it a shot.


But "incredibly bland, like eating nothing" suggests that something
went wrong in the cooking or that they were bad parsnips to begin
with. She could always get better parsnips, cook them well and stilll
hate them.

Dave Smith[_1_] 06-12-2017 10:35 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On 2017-12-06 3:16 PM, Bruce wrote:

>> but then, I indicated professional chefs, not burger joints or ethnic
>> restaurants.

>
> Ethnic restaurants don't have professional chefs?
>

I suppose you can call them professional because they are paid.
Restaurants don't hire chefs to prepare an established menu of foods,
most of which are cooked in a similar manner. They hire cooks.

Mike_Duffy 06-12-2017 10:42 PM

Parsnips ... again
 
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 15:59:28 -0000, Ophelia wrote:

> After reading this group for decades, I have decided that individual
> taste buds vary to the extreme in the common man. I don't know how
> professional chefs manage.


Yeah. I actually like Cilantro because it tastes like soap.


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