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Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon drippings
are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.

William

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On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 12:25:25 PM UTC-7, BigC300 wrote:
> Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
> tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon drippings
> are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.
>
> William

I have a container that I keep in my fridge for bacon drippings. I use them in many things.

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On 7/9/2016 3:25 PM, William wrote:
> Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
> tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon drippings
> are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.
>
> William
>

My mother did that so I just followed when we set up housekeeping.
Handy stuff for frying anything. You'll like it on the green beans.

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On 7/9/2016 3:25 PM, William wrote:
> Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
> tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon drippings
> are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.

That would be great.

My mother always saved bacon drippings in a frozen orange juice
container. Funny memory.

I'm the only one who likes my eggs fried in bacon grease,
and we hardly even have bacon anyway, so I don't save it.

nancy

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"William" > wrote in message
...
> Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
> tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon drippings
> are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.
>
> William

Yes, I save the bacon dripping for a lot of things, really good on green
beans.

Cheri

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"William" > wrote in message
...
> Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
> tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon drippings
> are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.
>
> William

I don't. My mom never did. Perhaps that's why I never developed a taste for
foods with it in there. I did try recipes that use it a few times but the
end result was too greasy for me.

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On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 2:38:29 PM UTC-5, ImStillMags wrote:
>
> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 12:25:25 PM UTC-7, BigC300 wrote:
>
> > Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? > >
> > William
>
> I have a container that I keep in my fridge for bacon drippings. I use them in many things.
>
>
Same here.

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On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 5:02:02 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I did try recipes that use it a few times but the
> end result was too greasy for me.
>
>
It takes just a dab. Some people do go a bit overboard
with it though.

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On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 2:25:25 PM UTC-5, BigC300 wrote:
> Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
> tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon drippings
> are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.
>
> William

Bacon "drippings" is bacon fat! Yes, yummy as all getout!

John Kuthe...

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On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 13:25:05 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
>"William" > wrote in message
.. .
>> Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
>> tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon drippings
>> are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.
>>
>> William
>
>Yes, I save the bacon dripping for a lot of things, really good on green
>beans.

Just this evening I made beet greens sauteed in bacon grease.
Delicious!

Doris

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On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 5:32:29 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 2:25:25 PM UTC-5, BigC300 wrote:
> > Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
> > tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon drippings
> > are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.
> >
> > William
>
> Bacon "drippings" is bacon fat! Yes, yummy as all getout!
>
> John Kuthe...

And yes I have a plastic container in the fridge of bacon grease that I never use. I have before, but I don't anymore most times.

John Kuthe...

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On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 22:41:23 -0400, Doris Night
> wrote:

> Just this evening I made beet greens sauteed in bacon grease.
> Delicious!

Love, love, love beet greens - but I wouldn't mask their wonderful
flavor with bacon grease.

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sf

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"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 13:25:05 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"William" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
>>> tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon drippings
>>> are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.
>>>
>>> William
>>
>>Yes, I save the bacon dripping for a lot of things, really good on green
>>beans.
>
> Just this evening I made beet greens sauteed in bacon grease.
> Delicious!
>
> Doris

I've never had beet greens.

Cheri

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"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "William" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
>> tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon drippings
>> are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.
>>
>> William
>
> Yes, I save the bacon dripping for a lot of things, really good on green
> beans.

I rarely cook bacon so never have any much. It is wonderful when I do have
even a little:) How do you use it on your beans?


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William wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
> tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon drippings
> are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.
>
> William

All the time, as well as sausage fat and duck fat (labeled jars in the
fridge). I also save chicken fat as I use that to grease the bird
feeder pole to keep the squirrels out of it.

Carol

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On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 22:15:05 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:
>
> I've never had beet greens.
>
It seems like the only way to get them these days is to grow your own.
I'd rather eat beet greens than the beet (a childhood preference).

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l not -l wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> On 9-Jul-2016, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> > On 7/9/2016 3:25 PM, William wrote:
> > > Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
> > > tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon
> > > drippings are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> >
> > My mother did that so I just followed when we set up housekeeping.
> > Handy stuff for frying anything. You'll like it on the green beans.
> Pan fried new potato slices too.

Definately though I prefer duck fat for that.

I'll wash and scrub about 1 lb of potatoes then cut to moon shapes
(skin on, we like the skins). Add to pan then chop an onion and add
that. Next about 1/4 cup olive oil and an equl amount duck fat or
bacon/sausage fat. Cover and cook in a large cast iron, turning now
and again, until they are browned up and done.

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cshenk wrote:
>
> William wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
> > tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon drippings
> > are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.
> >
> > William
>
> All the time, as well as sausage fat and duck fat (labeled jars in the
> fridge). I also save chicken fat as I use that to grease the bird
> feeder pole to keep the squirrels out of it.

Use vaseline. It won't attract animals/insects like chicken fat will.

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Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >"William" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
> > > tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon
> > > drippings are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.
> > >
> > > William
> >
> > Yes, I save the bacon dripping for a lot of things, really good on
> > green beans.
>
> I rarely cook bacon so never have any much. It is wonderful when I
> do have even a little:) How do you use it on your beans?

I sautee them with it. I also use duck fat on them, depending on
stock. Duck fat itself is a little hard to find in the USA (sure,
there are places where it can be found, but not common). You are lucky
there as they apparently sell rendered duck fat in sticks in the UK.
Me, I have to cook a duck then save the fat.

I did find it rendered and sold in sticks in one store here, but it
cost more than a duck does ;-) I can get domestic raised ducks for 12$
each which yields pretty close to 2 'sticks' worth. The one place I
saw it at wanted 9.99USAD per stick...



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cshenk wrote:
>
> wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 5:02:02 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> > >
> > > I did try recipes that use it a few times but the
> > > end result was too greasy for me.
> > >
> > >
> > It takes just a dab. Some people do go a bit overboard
> > with it though.
>
> Yup, for example if I'm sauteeing fresh green beans in it, I use about
> 1 teaspoon and add water (about 1 TB) to the pan (so it's a mix of
> steaming and fast sautee going on).

Whenever I fry 2-3 eggs, I do it in butter. If I happen to have some
bacon fat, I'll add only about a lima bean size of the fat. Just a tiny
bit contains plenty of bacon flavor.

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On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 08:58:32 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>I rarely cook bacon so never have any much. It is wonderful when I do have
>even a little:) How do you use it on your beans?

Ophelia, this was the first result I ginned up searching YouTube for
"cooking green beans with bacon". This is very similar to the way my
Grandmother cooked green beans and they were delicious!


https://youtu.be/9LSXeuSiX-E



William

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "William" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
>>> tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon drippings
>>> are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.
>>>
>>> William
>>
>> Yes, I save the bacon dripping for a lot of things, really good on green
>> beans.
>
> I rarely cook bacon so never have any much. It is wonderful when I do
> have
> even a little:) How do you use it on your beans?

I saute them in a bit of bacon grease.

Cheri

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 22:15:05 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>>
>> I've never had beet greens.
>>
> It seems like the only way to get them these days is to grow your own.
> I'd rather eat beet greens than the beet (a childhood preference).
>
> --
>
> sf

Beets are one of the things that I truly dislike, but never tried the
greens. Do they taste like the beets at all?

Cheri

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On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 10:08:55 -0400, William > wrote:

>On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 08:58:32 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>I rarely cook bacon so never have any much. It is wonderful when I do have
>>even a little:) How do you use it on your beans?
>
>Ophelia, this was the first result I ginned up searching YouTube for
>"cooking green beans with bacon". This is very similar to the way my
>Grandmother cooked green beans and they were delicious!
>
>
>https://youtu.be/9LSXeuSiX-E
>
>
>
>William

This is the way my mother did it (for fresh green beans)
Hot Bacon Dressing
3 slices bacon
1/4 cup vinegar
1/8 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon sugar
Cut bacon into small pieces. Cook slowly until crisp. Stir in
vinegar and seasoning. Reheat and pour at once over cooked green
beans, lettuce, spinach or any salad greens.
NOTE: adjust sugar to your preference.
NOTE: use this to make wilted lettuce with garden lettuces (wilted
lettuce must be served immediately)
Janet US

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On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 08:34:30 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 10:08:55 -0400, William > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 08:58:32 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I rarely cook bacon so never have any much. It is wonderful when I do have
>>>even a little:) How do you use it on your beans?
>>
>>Ophelia, this was the first result I ginned up searching YouTube for
>>"cooking green beans with bacon". This is very similar to the way my
>>Grandmother cooked green beans and they were delicious!
>>
>>
>>https://youtu.be/9LSXeuSiX-E
>>
>>
>>
>>William
>
>This is the way my mother did it (for fresh green beans)
>Hot Bacon Dressing
>3 slices bacon
>1/4 cup vinegar
>1/8 teaspoon salt
>1 teaspoon sugar
>Cut bacon into small pieces. Cook slowly until crisp. Stir in
>vinegar and seasoning. Reheat and pour at once over cooked green
>beans, lettuce, spinach or any salad greens.
>NOTE: adjust sugar to your preference.
>NOTE: use this to make wilted lettuce with garden lettuces (wilted
>lettuce must be served immediately)
>Janet US

I forgot, add diced onion as you wish.
Janet US

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"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Ophelia wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> >"William" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > > Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
>> > > tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon
>> > > drippings are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.
>> > >
>> > > William
>> >
>> > Yes, I save the bacon dripping for a lot of things, really good on
>> > green beans.
>>
>> I rarely cook bacon so never have any much. It is wonderful when I
>> do have even a little:) How do you use it on your beans?
>
> I sautee them with it. I also use duck fat on them, depending on
> stock. Duck fat itself is a little hard to find in the USA (sure,
> there are places where it can be found, but not common). You are lucky
> there as they apparently sell rendered duck fat in sticks in the UK.
> Me, I have to cook a duck then save the fat.
>
> I did find it rendered and sold in sticks in one store here, but it
> cost more than a duck does ;-) I can get domestic raised ducks for 12$
> each which yields pretty close to 2 'sticks' worth. The one place I
> saw it at wanted 9.99USAD per stick...

Thanks:)



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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> cshenk wrote:
>>
>> wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>> > On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 5:02:02 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I did try recipes that use it a few times but the
>> > > end result was too greasy for me.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > It takes just a dab. Some people do go a bit overboard
>> > with it though.
>>
>> Yup, for example if I'm sauteeing fresh green beans in it, I use about
>> 1 teaspoon and add water (about 1 TB) to the pan (so it's a mix of
>> steaming and fast sautee going on).
>
> Whenever I fry 2-3 eggs, I do it in butter. If I happen to have some
> bacon fat, I'll add only about a lima bean size of the fat. Just a tiny
> bit contains plenty of bacon flavor.

I always do my eggs in butter.



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"William" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 08:58:32 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>I rarely cook bacon so never have any much. It is wonderful when I do
>>have
>>even a little:) How do you use it on your beans?
>
> Ophelia, this was the first result I ginned up searching YouTube for
> "cooking green beans with bacon". This is very similar to the way my
> Grandmother cooked green beans and they were delicious!
>
>
> https://youtu.be/9LSXeuSiX-E

Thanks very much:))) Just one thing though, are those beans precooked?


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John Kuthe wrote:
>
>And yes I have a plastic container in the fridge of bacon grease that I never use.
>I have before, but I don't anymore most times.

Not much use since you and Bwrrryan called splitsville.

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"l not -l" > wrote in message
...
>
> On 10-Jul-2016, William > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 08:58:32 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I rarely cook bacon so never have any much. It is wonderful when I do
>> >have
>> >even a little:) How do you use it on your beans?
>>
>> Ophelia, this was the first result I ginned up searching YouTube for
>> "cooking green beans with bacon". This is very similar to the way my
>> Grandmother cooked green beans and they were delicious!
>>
>>
>> https://youtu.be/9LSXeuSiX-E
>>
>>
>>
>> William
> My grandmother and mother did the following:
> Cut a small onion into slices (pole-to-pole, not hemispherically), roughly
> into eighths. Saute onion and green beans in a skillet, using 2-3
> tablespoons of bacon fat, depending on quantity of beans. Enough to coat
> the beans. Season with salt and pepper. After short saute, add water,
> bring
> to a simmer and cook until beans are done to your liking and most, if not
> all, the water has evaporated. Adjust seasoning, if needed and serve.
> If
> any cooked bacon is on hand, left-over from breakfast, crumble on top of
> beans before serving.

Thanks very much:))



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"Cheri" > wrote in message
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>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 22:15:05 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've never had beet greens.
>>>
>> It seems like the only way to get them these days is to grow your own.
>> I'd rather eat beet greens than the beet (a childhood preference).
>>
>> --
>>
>> sf
>
> Beets are one of the things that I truly dislike, but never tried the
> greens. Do they taste like the beets at all?

I love beets that have been cooked and with a bit of malt vinegar. atm they
are my snack of choice:))


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"Cheri" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "William" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
>>>> tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon drippings
>>>> are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.
>>>>
>>>> William
>>>
>>> Yes, I save the bacon dripping for a lot of things, really good on green
>>> beans.
>>
>> I rarely cook bacon so never have any much. It is wonderful when I do
>> have
>> even a little:) How do you use it on your beans?
>
> I saute them in a bit of bacon grease.

Do you start with raw beans?


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On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 16:27:56 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 22:15:05 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've never had beet greens.
>>>>
>>> It seems like the only way to get them these days is to grow your own.
>>> I'd rather eat beet greens than the beet (a childhood preference).
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> sf
>>
>> Beets are one of the things that I truly dislike, but never tried the
>> greens. Do they taste like the beets at all?
>
>I love beets that have been cooked and with a bit of malt vinegar. atm they
>are my snack of choice:))

I like the malt vinegar too, but often here they are served, just
sliced, nothing added.

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 22:15:05 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've never had beet greens.
>>>>
>>> It seems like the only way to get them these days is to grow your own.
>>> I'd rather eat beet greens than the beet (a childhood preference).
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> sf
>>
>> Beets are one of the things that I truly dislike, but never tried the
>> greens. Do they taste like the beets at all?
>
> I love beets that have been cooked and with a bit of malt vinegar. atm
> they
> are my snack of choice:))

Well, to each their own. LOL

Cheri

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
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>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
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>>>
>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>>> ...
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>>>> "William" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
>>>>> tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon drippings
>>>>> are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.
>>>>>
>>>>> William
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I save the bacon dripping for a lot of things, really good on
>>>> green
>>>> beans.
>>>
>>> I rarely cook bacon so never have any much. It is wonderful when I do
>>> have
>>> even a little:) How do you use it on your beans?
>>
>> I saute them in a bit of bacon grease.
>
> Do you start with raw beans?

I have, but a lot of times I use the canned beans.

Cheri

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Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> cshenk wrote:
> >
> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 5:02:02 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I did try recipes that use it a few times but the
> > > > end result was too greasy for me.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > It takes just a dab. Some people do go a bit overboard
> > > with it though.
> >
> > Yup, for example if I'm sauteeing fresh green beans in it, I use
> > about 1 teaspoon and add water (about 1 TB) to the pan (so it's a
> > mix of steaming and fast sautee going on).
>
> Whenever I fry 2-3 eggs, I do it in butter. If I happen to have some
> bacon fat, I'll add only about a lima bean size of the fat. Just a
> tiny bit contains plenty of bacon flavor.

I like that Lima bean size! Yes, that's about 1 teaspoon, or maybe 1.5
ts.

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Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> cshenk wrote:
> >
> > William wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
> > > tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon
> > > drippings are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.
> > >
> > > William
> >
> > All the time, as well as sausage fat and duck fat (labeled jars in
> > the fridge). I also save chicken fat as I use that to grease the
> > bird feeder pole to keep the squirrels out of it.
>
> Use vaseline. It won't attract animals/insects like chicken fat will.

Vaseline may be damaging to the critters and I want them healthy. No
insect problems and the squirrels have fun licking their paws and
jumping on the pole for another try.

Leap, grab, slide, fat pumpf as butt hits ground, lick paws, then
repeat.

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On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 15:25:10 -0400, William > wrote:

Thanks so much to everyone who responded to this thread! We all now
have wonderful tips and suggestions for enjoying the "green bean".

William

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>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
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>>>> "William" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Anybody save bacon drippings for future cooking? I used to drop a
>>>>> tablespoon of butter into the frying pan for eggs but bacon drippings
>>>>> are much more tasty. May try it on the green beans too.
>>>>>
>>>>> William
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I save the bacon dripping for a lot of things, really good on
>>>> green
>>>> beans.
>>>
>>> I rarely cook bacon so never have any much. It is wonderful when I do
>>> have
>>> even a little:) How do you use it on your beans?
>>
>> I saute them in a bit of bacon grease.
>
> Do you start with raw beans?

I have, but a lot of times I use the canned beans.

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Oh! I've never used those. Do you think if I steamed them a bit first?



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