http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health...-scare-n585531

"Janet B" > wrote in message
...
> http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health...-scare-n585531

Well, just look at me, sitting here all fat and happy with my sunflower
intolerance.

On 6/5/2016 1:39 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Jun 2016 16:02:55 -0600, Janet B wrote:
>
>> http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health...-scare-n585531
>
> We have a 22-page book of all the brands and varieties of sunflower
> seed products that have been recalled from dressings to granola bars.
> These massive recalls like this are a bitch for food banks to sort
> through because they can get donations of this stuff from now until 3
> years from now. Sunflower seeds, tuna, mac & cheeze, Pilgrim's
> chicken, cumin, frozen vegetables, now flour... Over 52 million
> pounds of foods are always on recall within the last 18 months.
>
> -sw
>
I never thought about that aspect of the recalls. I read several years
ago that donating money rather than food provides more and better
options for the food banks, so that is what I do. Given your
experiences, would you agree with that?

On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 09:02:59 -0500, dejamos >
wrote:

>On 6/5/2016 1:39 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Jun 2016 16:02:55 -0600, Janet B wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health...-scare-n585531
>>
>> We have a 22-page book of all the brands and varieties of sunflower
>> seed products that have been recalled from dressings to granola bars.
>> These massive recalls like this are a bitch for food banks to sort
>> through because they can get donations of this stuff from now until 3
>> years from now. Sunflower seeds, tuna, mac & cheeze, Pilgrim's
>> chicken, cumin, frozen vegetables, now flour... Over 52 million
>> pounds of foods are always on recall within the last 18 months.
>>
>I never thought about that aspect of the recalls. I read several years
>ago that donating money rather than food provides more and better
>options for the food banks, so that is what I do. Given your
>experiences, would you agree with that?

You donate money to a food bank... LOL-LOL
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .

On 6/5/2016 11:53 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 09:02:59 -0500, dejamos >
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/5/2016 1:39 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sat, 04 Jun 2016 16:02:55 -0600, Janet B wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health...-scare-n585531
>>>
>>> We have a 22-page book of all the brands and varieties of sunflower
>>> seed products that have been recalled from dressings to granola bars.
>>> These massive recalls like this are a bitch for food banks to sort
>>> through because they can get donations of this stuff from now until 3
>>> years from now. Sunflower seeds, tuna, mac & cheeze, Pilgrim's
>>> chicken, cumin, frozen vegetables, now flour... Over 52 million
>>> pounds of foods are always on recall within the last 18 months.
>>>
>> I never thought about that aspect of the recalls. I read several years
>> ago that donating money rather than food provides more and better
>> options for the food banks, so that is what I do. Given your
>> experiences, would you agree with that?
>
> You donate money to a food bank... LOL-LOL
> Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .
>
What's so funny about that? I donate items *and* money to the food bank
when I am able.

Once upon a time, 34 years ago, during a crappy, thankfully short-lived
marriage, I got food from the food bank. I was only earning about
$12,000 a year and my asshole ex-husband didn't bother to work unless he
felt like it.

After I got out of that situation and back on my feet I started buying a
little extra food when I went shopping. I'd donate it to the food bank.

Back then one didn't hear about constant food recalls. People just
donated and the goods went in, then went back out.

I never did donate items that were "about to expire" or just so I could
get rid of something I'd hung onto for years. For example, I wouldn't
donate that Good Seasons Salad Dressing Mix with the shaker cruet...
likely 20 years old.

Jill

On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 12:27:43 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 6/5/2016 11:53 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 09:02:59 -0500, dejamos >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/5/2016 1:39 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 04 Jun 2016 16:02:55 -0600, Janet B wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health...-scare-n585531
>>>>
>>>> We have a 22-page book of all the brands and varieties of sunflower
>>>> seed products that have been recalled from dressings to granola bars.
>>>> These massive recalls like this are a bitch for food banks to sort
>>>> through because they can get donations of this stuff from now until 3
>>>> years from now. Sunflower seeds, tuna, mac & cheeze, Pilgrim's
>>>> chicken, cumin, frozen vegetables, now flour... Over 52 million
>>>> pounds of foods are always on recall within the last 18 months.
>>>>
>>> I never thought about that aspect of the recalls. I read several years
>>> ago that donating money rather than food provides more and better
>>> options for the food banks, so that is what I do. Given your
>>> experiences, would you agree with that?
>>
>> You donate money to a food bank... LOL-LOL
>> Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .
>>
>What's so funny about that? I donate items *and* money to the food bank
>when I am able.
>
>Once upon a time, 34 years ago, during a crappy, thankfully short-lived
>marriage, I got food from the food bank. I was only earning about
>$12,000 a year and my asshole ex-husband didn't bother to work unless he
>felt like it.
>
>After I got out of that situation and back on my feet I started buying a
>little extra food when I went shopping. I'd donate it to the food bank.
>
>Back then one didn't hear about constant food recalls. People just
>donated and the goods went in, then went back out.
>
>I never did donate items that were "about to expire" or just so I could
>get rid of something I'd hung onto for years. For example, I wouldn't
>donate that Good Seasons Salad Dressing Mix with the shaker cruet...
>likely 20 years old.
>
>Jill

many times during the year here, various organizations hold a food
bank day. In addition to the big barrels and so forth to hold the
food donations, there are a couple of barrels for people and kids to
dump all their change or bills. The money allows the food bank to
purchase those items that they know from experience are wanted by
almost everyone.
Janet US

jmcquown wrote:
>
> I never did donate items that were "about to expire" or just so I could
> get rid of something I'd hung onto for years. For example, I wouldn't
> donate that Good Seasons Salad Dressing Mix with the shaker cruet...
> likely 20 years old.

I would probably use those if I had them. As long as they remained dry
all this time, I don't see a powdered flavoring pack going bad.

In yesterday's newspaper (Sunday, June 5) there was an article talking
about the new food labeling law. It sounds like a good thing and I'm
sure that will pass. Once it passes, companies will have two years to
comply.

In the meantime, they did mention one website to help people decide
whether their food is too old or not. I've checked it out. It's
interesting to read.

Here's the addy if you care to check it out:
http://Stilltasty.com/

I also looked at the question about how long is it safe to leave
cooked meat out. We had a recent debate about the guy that left cooked
chicken thighs out for 4-5 hours. This site says no more than 2 hours.
I think that's the govt recommendation. Hey....it's the safe way to
go. It can depend on how hot your house is and blah blah. As I said, I
would toss it "just to be safe."

That might have been a waste of the chicken but then it might have bit
me. Once you leave a few things out "maybe too long" and then wonder
about it being good, you learn NOT to leave anything out too long. I
did. If I leave something out to cool a bit, I'll set a timer now so I
don't forget to put it away.

Anyway, it's an interesting read - http://Stilltasty.com/

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> I never did donate items that were "about to expire" or just so I could
>> get rid of something I'd hung onto for years. For example, I wouldn't
>> donate that Good Seasons Salad Dressing Mix with the shaker cruet...
>> likely 20 years old.
>
> I would probably use those if I had them. As long as they remained dry
> all this time, I don't see a powdered flavoring pack going bad.
>
> In yesterday's newspaper (Sunday, June 5) there was an article talking
> about the new food labeling law. It sounds like a good thing and I'm
> sure that will pass. Once it passes, companies will have two years to
> comply.
>
> In the meantime, they did mention one website to help people decide
> whether their food is too old or not. I've checked it out. It's
> interesting to read.
>
> Here's the addy if you care to check it out:
> http://Stilltasty.com/
>
> I also looked at the question about how long is it safe to leave
> cooked meat out. We had a recent debate about the guy that left cooked
> chicken thighs out for 4-5 hours. This site says no more than 2 hours.
> I think that's the govt recommendation. Hey....it's the safe way to
> go. It can depend on how hot your house is and blah blah. As I said, I
> would toss it "just to be safe."

LOL on govt recommendations. Most of the recommendations are ridiculous in
the "real world."

Cheri

jmcquown > Wrote in message:
> On 6/5/2016 11:53 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 09:02:59 -0500, dejamos >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/5/2016 1:39 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 04 Jun 2016 16:02:55 -0600, Janet B wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health...-scare-n585531
>>>>
>>>> We have a 22-page book of all the brands and varieties of sunflower
>>>> seed products that have been recalled from dressings to granola bars.
>>>> These massive recalls like this are a bitch for food banks to sort
>>>> through because they can get donations of this stuff from now until 3
>>>> years from now. Sunflower seeds, tuna, mac & cheeze, Pilgrim's
>>>> chicken, cumin, frozen vegetables, now flour... Over 52 million
>>>> pounds of foods are always on recall within the last 18 months.
>>>>
>>> I never thought about that aspect of the recalls. I read several years
>>> ago that donating money rather than food provides more and better
>>> options for the food banks, so that is what I do. Given your
>>> experiences, would you agree with that?
>>
>> You donate money to a food bank... LOL-LOL
>> Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .
>>
> What's so funny about that? I donate items *and* money to the food bank
> when I am able.
>
> Once upon a time, 34 years ago, during a crappy, thankfully short-lived
> marriage, I got food from the food bank. I was only earning about
> $12,000 a year and my asshole ex-husband didn't bother to work unless he
> felt like it.
>
> After I got out of that situation and back on my feet I started buying a
> little extra food when I went shopping. I'd donate it to the food bank.
>
> Back then one didn't hear about constant food recalls. People just
> donated and the goods went in, then went back out.
>
> I never did donate items that were "about to expire" or just so I could
> get rid of something I'd hung onto for years. For example, I wouldn't
> donate that Good Seasons Salad Dressing Mix with the shaker cruet...
> likely 20 years old.
>
> Jill
>

OT but are you working again Jill? So many times I wish I could
retire now. I think we're close to the same age.



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On 6/6/2016 2:47 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 09:02:59 -0500, dejamos wrote:
>
>> On 6/5/2016 1:39 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sat, 04 Jun 2016 16:02:55 -0600, Janet B wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health...-scare-n585531
>>>
>>> We have a 22-page book of all the brands and varieties of sunflower
>>> seed products that have been recalled from dressings to granola bars.
>>> These massive recalls like this are a bitch for food banks to sort
>>> through because they can get donations of this stuff from now until 3
>>> years from now. Sunflower seeds, tuna, mac & cheeze, Pilgrim's
>>> chicken, cumin, frozen vegetables, now flour... Over 52 million
>>> pounds of foods are always on recall within the last 18 months.
>>>
>> I never thought about that aspect of the recalls. I read several years
>> ago that donating money rather than food provides more and better
>> options for the food banks, so that is what I do. Given your
>> experiences, would you agree with that?
>
> Food Banks want money because it's more versatile and also pays
> salaries and operating costs.
>
> There is a lot of overhead having to sort through random donations
> collected from individuals (about 20% of the total donations) and from
> grocery stores/distributors/manufacturers (80%). They have to pay for
> trucks and drivers to pick the stuff up from grocery stores and then
> they have to pay staff to run the volunteers that do the bulk of the
> inspecting and sorting of those items. This donated food is virtually
> free to the food bank and accounts for about 25% of the food bank's
> total revolving inventory.
>
> OTOH, money provides the ability for food banks to buy USDA-subsidized
> food for about $.15-$.20 on the dollar. If a can of beets costs $.50
> wholesale then they can buy 10-12 cans for $1. This food isn't free,
> but it's very low cost and doesn't require sorting and much
> inventorying since it comes on pallets and is distributed by the case
> (to food pantries). The food obtained this way accounts for about 75%
> of the food bank's total inventory.
>
> So figure that can of beets you paid $.80 for and donated could, if in
> the form of cash, have been turned into 2 cans of USDA-subsidized
> beets and still have $.50 leftover to pay for operating costs.
> Buying food at retail *specifically* to give to the food bank is by
> far the least economical way to support the cause.
>
> About 90% of the cash contributions come from SMB's, corporations, and
> families who have set up philanthropic funds. About 10% comes from
> Joe Schmoe - most of that around the holidays. Our food bank has
> raised an extra $25 million in the past few years to pay for a new
> facility that opens in a couple weeks, so they are fairly good at
> raising money.
>
> Yes, they would rather have money than food. It's not greed or
> anything underhanded, it's just much more economical. Unfortunately a
> lot of people are of the attitude that they'll buy a homeless person a
> McDonalds Value Meal, but they would never give them the $5 to buy it
> themselves. And they don't trust a lot of charities to handle the
> money wisely either.
>
> -sw
>
That certainly confirms what I had read. Thank you for the more
detailed explanation. I will continue to donate money rather than food
to my local food bank. I want my contribution to do the most good,
whether it is to buy extra food or to pay for the staff and operating
costs required to run it.