"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 4:27:52 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Janet B" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > I bought some boneless, skinless chicken breasts from Albertsons
>> > yesterday. They were $1.69/pound. It was a decent price so I got
>> > what I thought was a package of 8 -- 4 on top and 4 on the bottom.
>> > Not so. There were only 4 breasts in the package. I've weighed each
>> > one. 1.5 ounce was the heaviest and 1.4 was the least weighty. The
>> > cut looks like they are full breasts instead of the halves we are used
>> > to. Still, at 20 ounces for a full breast that means the halves would
>> > be 10 ounces and I am used to seeing 5-6 ounce breast pieces. So, if
>> > it was your chicken, would you figure these were really old birds and
>> > need a lot of stewing or would you just go ahead and cook as usual? I
>> > use this meat for enchilada filling and stuff like that
>> > Janet US
>>
>> I learned not to buy meat from Albertsons unless it is some specific
>> brand
>> like their grass fed beef. Their meat is bad.
>> >
>
> Not enough detail Julie...not good to make blanket statements about
> retailers. I'll bet that retailers HATED to see you enter their premises.
>
> I used to manage retail grocery stores...some customers are really
> miserable *******s...better off without them.
> ====

In this case, it is valid and warranted. My mom never bought meat there
when I was growing up. Now I know why. This is the same store where I
bought all that cheap meat and had to put it in the freezer.

As I said... If it is a branded item such as the organic beef, Foster Farms
chicken, packaged bacon or ham, fine. I will no longer buy their pork
chops, chicken, steak, roasts, etc. Just not good. And retailers don't
dislike me. Why would they? I buy stuff from them. I rarely return
things. And I am polite.

On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 10:15:18 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 4:27:52 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> "Janet B" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >
> >> > I bought some boneless, skinless chicken breasts from Albertsons
> >> > yesterday. They were $1.69/pound. It was a decent price so I got
> >> > what I thought was a package of 8 -- 4 on top and 4 on the bottom.
> >> > Not so. There were only 4 breasts in the package. I've weighed each
> >> > one. 1.5 ounce was the heaviest and 1.4 was the least weighty. The
> >> > cut looks like they are full breasts instead of the halves we are used
> >> > to. Still, at 20 ounces for a full breast that means the halves would
> >> > be 10 ounces and I am used to seeing 5-6 ounce breast pieces. So, if
> >> > it was your chicken, would you figure these were really old birds and
> >> > need a lot of stewing or would you just go ahead and cook as usual? I
> >> > use this meat for enchilada filling and stuff like that
> >> > Janet US
> >>
> >> I learned not to buy meat from Albertsons unless it is some specific
> >> brand
> >> like their grass fed beef. Their meat is bad.
> >> >
> >
> > Not enough detail Julie...not good to make blanket statements about
> > retailers. I'll bet that retailers HATED to see you enter their premises.
> >
> > I used to manage retail grocery stores...some customers are really
> > miserable *******s...better off without them.
> > ====
>
> In this case, it is valid and warranted. My mom never bought meat there
> when I was growing up. Now I know why. This is the same store where I
> bought all that cheap meat and had to put it in the freezer.
>
> As I said... If it is a branded item such as the organic beef, Foster Farms
> chicken, packaged bacon or ham, fine. I will no longer buy their pork
> chops, chicken, steak, roasts, etc. Just not good. And retailers don't
> dislike me. Why would they? I buy stuff from them. I rarely return
> things. And I am polite.

Well, just saying their meat is "bad" tells me next to nothing.
Do you mean ROTTEN?
Do you mean tough or stringy?
Do you mean poorly cut and presented?
Do you mean poorly packaged, wet with blood?
Do you mean over-priced?
Do you mean NOT UP TO GRADE?

I was a meat cutter for years before I went into management.

If someone described meat to me as being bad it usually meant spoiled/rotten/inedible.
====

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 10:15:18 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 4:27:52 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >> "Janet B" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >
>> >> > I bought some boneless, skinless chicken breasts from Albertsons
>> >> > yesterday. They were $1.69/pound. It was a decent price so I got
>> >> > what I thought was a package of 8 -- 4 on top and 4 on the bottom.
>> >> > Not so. There were only 4 breasts in the package. I've weighed each
>> >> > one. 1.5 ounce was the heaviest and 1.4 was the least weighty. The
>> >> > cut looks like they are full breasts instead of the halves we are
>> >> > used
>> >> > to. Still, at 20 ounces for a full breast that means the halves
>> >> > would
>> >> > be 10 ounces and I am used to seeing 5-6 ounce breast pieces. So,
>> >> > if
>> >> > it was your chicken, would you figure these were really old birds
>> >> > and
>> >> > need a lot of stewing or would you just go ahead and cook as usual?
>> >> > I
>> >> > use this meat for enchilada filling and stuff like that
>> >> > Janet US
>> >>
>> >> I learned not to buy meat from Albertsons unless it is some specific
>> >> brand
>> >> like their grass fed beef. Their meat is bad.
>> >> >
>> >
>> > Not enough detail Julie...not good to make blanket statements about
>> > retailers. I'll bet that retailers HATED to see you enter their
>> > premises.
>> >
>> > I used to manage retail grocery stores...some customers are really
>> > miserable *******s...better off without them.
>> > ====
>>
>> In this case, it is valid and warranted. My mom never bought meat there
>> when I was growing up. Now I know why. This is the same store where I
>> bought all that cheap meat and had to put it in the freezer.
>>
>> As I said... If it is a branded item such as the organic beef, Foster
>> Farms
>> chicken, packaged bacon or ham, fine. I will no longer buy their pork
>> chops, chicken, steak, roasts, etc. Just not good. And retailers don't
>> dislike me. Why would they? I buy stuff from them. I rarely return
>> things. And I am polite.
>
> Well, just saying their meat is "bad" tells me next to nothing.
> Do you mean ROTTEN?
> Do you mean tough or stringy?
> Do you mean poorly cut and presented?
> Do you mean poorly packaged, wet with blood?
> Do you mean over-priced?
> Do you mean NOT UP TO GRADE?
>
> I was a meat cutter for years before I went into management.
>
> If someone described meat to me as being bad it usually meant
> spoiled/rotten/inedible.
> ====

I didn't eat the stuff and I didn't ask for specifics. My mom told me it
was bad. Someone else said they had a sale and the meat was really good. I
bought some. Both my husband and Angela said it was bad. Those were their
exact words. The person who had recommended the meat to me had taken some
to where my dad was living at the time. He complained that the meat was bad
as did the others that had been served the meat. Again, exact words. That
was good enough for me. I haven't bought it since.

What I can say that it wasn't poorly packaged. Overpriced? Well, I guess
so, since it wasn't edible. I don't think it was spoiled. People just
didn't like it.

On Sunday, April 10, 2016 at 12:03:00 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 10:15:18 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> "Roy" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 4:27:52 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> >> "Janet B" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I bought some boneless, skinless chicken breasts from Albertsons
> >> >> > yesterday. They were $1.69/pound. It was a decent price so I got
> >> >> > what I thought was a package of 8 -- 4 on top and 4 on the bottom.
> >> >> > Not so. There were only 4 breasts in the package. I've weighed each
> >> >> > one. 1.5 ounce was the heaviest and 1.4 was the least weighty. The
> >> >> > cut looks like they are full breasts instead of the halves we are
> >> >> > used
> >> >> > to. Still, at 20 ounces for a full breast that means the halves
> >> >> > would
> >> >> > be 10 ounces and I am used to seeing 5-6 ounce breast pieces. So,
> >> >> > if
> >> >> > it was your chicken, would you figure these were really old birds
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > need a lot of stewing or would you just go ahead and cook as usual?
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > use this meat for enchilada filling and stuff like that
> >> >> > Janet US
> >> >>
> >> >> I learned not to buy meat from Albertsons unless it is some specific
> >> >> brand
> >> >> like their grass fed beef. Their meat is bad.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Not enough detail Julie...not good to make blanket statements about
> >> > retailers. I'll bet that retailers HATED to see you enter their
> >> > premises.
> >> >
> >> > I used to manage retail grocery stores...some customers are really
> >> > miserable *******s...better off without them.
> >> > ====
> >>
> >> In this case, it is valid and warranted. My mom never bought meat there
> >> when I was growing up. Now I know why. This is the same store where I
> >> bought all that cheap meat and had to put it in the freezer.
> >>
> >> As I said... If it is a branded item such as the organic beef, Foster
> >> Farms
> >> chicken, packaged bacon or ham, fine. I will no longer buy their pork
> >> chops, chicken, steak, roasts, etc. Just not good. And retailers don't
> >> dislike me. Why would they? I buy stuff from them. I rarely return
> >> things. And I am polite.
> >
> > Well, just saying their meat is "bad" tells me next to nothing.
> > Do you mean ROTTEN?
> > Do you mean tough or stringy?
> > Do you mean poorly cut and presented?
> > Do you mean poorly packaged, wet with blood?
> > Do you mean over-priced?
> > Do you mean NOT UP TO GRADE?
> >
> > I was a meat cutter for years before I went into management.
> >
> > If someone described meat to me as being bad it usually meant
> > spoiled/rotten/inedible.
> > ====
>
> I didn't eat the stuff and I didn't ask for specifics. My mom told me it
> was bad. Someone else said they had a sale and the meat was really good. I
> bought some. Both my husband and Angela said it was bad. Those were their
> exact words. The person who had recommended the meat to me had taken some
> to where my dad was living at the time. He complained that the meat was bad
> as did the others that had been served the meat. Again, exact words. That
> was good enough for me. I haven't bought it since.
>
> What I can say that it wasn't poorly packaged. Overpriced? Well, I guess
> so, since it wasn't edible. I don't think it was spoiled. People just
> didn't like it.

Well, that settles it...if everyone uses the word "bad", we'll never know what caused the "bad" meat to be "bad". I would guess that it was just created to be "bad"...probably from bad cows and bad bulls, raised by "bad" ranchers.
====

On 4/10/2016 11:49 AM, Roy wrote:

>>
>> I didn't eat the stuff and I didn't ask for specifics. My mom told me it
>> was bad. Someone else said they had a sale and the meat was really good. I
>> bought some. Both my husband and Angela said it was bad. Those were their
>> exact words. The person who had recommended the meat to me had taken some
>> to where my dad was living at the time. He complained that the meat was bad
>> as did the others that had been served the meat. Again, exact words. That
>> was good enough for me. I haven't bought it since.
>>
>> What I can say that it wasn't poorly packaged. Overpriced? Well, I guess
>> so, since it wasn't edible. I don't think it was spoiled. People just
>> didn't like it.
>
> Well, that settles it...if everyone uses the word "bad", we'll never know what caused the "bad" meat to be "bad". I would guess that it was just created to be "bad"...probably from bad cows and bad bulls, raised by "bad" ranchers.
> ====
>

I only eat beef from well behaved cows. Bad cows have tough meat after
having to write "I must not crap on the barn floor" a couple hundred
times.

On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 13:20:38 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 4/10/2016 11:49 AM, Roy wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I didn't eat the stuff and I didn't ask for specifics. My mom told me it
>>> was bad. Someone else said they had a sale and the meat was really good. I
>>> bought some. Both my husband and Angela said it was bad. Those were their
>>> exact words. The person who had recommended the meat to me had taken some
>>> to where my dad was living at the time. He complained that the meat was bad
>>> as did the others that had been served the meat. Again, exact words. That
>>> was good enough for me. I haven't bought it since.
>>>
>>> What I can say that it wasn't poorly packaged. Overpriced? Well, I guess
>>> so, since it wasn't edible. I don't think it was spoiled. People just
>>> didn't like it.
>>
>> Well, that settles it...if everyone uses the word "bad", we'll never know what caused the "bad" meat to be "bad". I would guess that it was just created to be "bad"...probably from bad cows and bad bulls, raised by "bad" ranchers.
>> ====
>>
>
>I only eat beef from well behaved cows. Bad cows have tough meat after
>having to write "I must not crap on the barn floor" a couple hundred
>times.

ROFL good picture in my mind
Janet US

On 4/10/2016 1:39 PM, Janet B wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 13:20:38 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 4/10/2016 11:49 AM, Roy wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> I didn't eat the stuff and I didn't ask for specifics. My mom told me it
>>>> was bad. Someone else said they had a sale and the meat was really good. I
>>>> bought some. Both my husband and Angela said it was bad. Those were their
>>>> exact words. The person who had recommended the meat to me had taken some
>>>> to where my dad was living at the time. He complained that the meat was bad
>>>> as did the others that had been served the meat. Again, exact words. That
>>>> was good enough for me. I haven't bought it since.
>>>>
>>>> What I can say that it wasn't poorly packaged. Overpriced? Well, I guess
>>>> so, since it wasn't edible. I don't think it was spoiled. People just
>>>> didn't like it.
>>>
>>> Well, that settles it...if everyone uses the word "bad", we'll never know what caused the "bad" meat to be "bad". I would guess that it was just created to be "bad"...probably from bad cows and bad bulls, raised by "bad" ranchers.
>>> ====
>>>
>>
>> I only eat beef from well behaved cows. Bad cows have tough meat after
>> having to write "I must not crap on the barn floor" a couple hundred
>> times.
>
> ROFL good picture in my mind
> Janet US
>
Same here! Ed's a funny guy!


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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 4/10/2016 11:49 AM, Roy wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I didn't eat the stuff and I didn't ask for specifics. My mom told me
>>> it
>>> was bad. Someone else said they had a sale and the meat was really
>>> good. I
>>> bought some. Both my husband and Angela said it was bad. Those were
>>> their
>>> exact words. The person who had recommended the meat to me had taken
>>> some
>>> to where my dad was living at the time. He complained that the meat was
>>> bad
>>> as did the others that had been served the meat. Again, exact words.
>>> That
>>> was good enough for me. I haven't bought it since.
>>>
>>> What I can say that it wasn't poorly packaged. Overpriced? Well, I
>>> guess
>>> so, since it wasn't edible. I don't think it was spoiled. People just
>>> didn't like it.
>>
>> Well, that settles it...if everyone uses the word "bad", we'll never know
>> what caused the "bad" meat to be "bad". I would guess that it was just
>> created to be "bad"...probably from bad cows and bad bulls, raised by
>> "bad" ranchers.
>> ====
>>
>
> I only eat beef from well behaved cows. Bad cows have tough meat after
> having to write "I must not crap on the barn floor" a couple hundred
> times.

rofl

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On 2016-04-10 11:49 AM, Roy wrote:
> On Sunday, April 10, 2016 at 12:03:00 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:

>>> If someone described meat to me as being bad it usually meant
>>> spoiled/rotten/inedible.
>>> ====
>>
>> I didn't eat the stuff and I didn't ask for specifics. My mom told me it
>> was bad. Someone else said they had a sale and the meat was really good. I
>> bought some. Both my husband and Angela said it was bad. Those were their
>> exact words. The person who had recommended the meat to me had taken some
>> to where my dad was living at the time. He complained that the meat was bad
>> as did the others that had been served the meat. Again, exact words. That
>> was good enough for me. I haven't bought it since.
>>
>> What I can say that it wasn't poorly packaged. Overpriced? Well, I guess
>> so, since it wasn't edible. I don't think it was spoiled. People just
>> didn't like it.
>
> Well, that settles it...if everyone uses the word "bad", we'll never know what caused the "bad" meat to be "bad". I would guess that it was just created to be "bad"...probably from bad cows and bad bulls, raised by "bad" ranchers.

Holy crap. There is a prime example of Bovine idiocy. She posted that
the meat at that store was bad. When pressed for specifics about it she
claimed that she never ate it. She was going by what her husband and
daughter said about it. Imagine that. The two people in her family who
never like anything she cooks said it was bad. I don't think either of
them would be in a position to know if meat is good or bad because she
always cooks her meat as soon as she gets home and then freezes it.

On 4/10/2016 3:21 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> There is a prime example of Bovine idiocy. She posted that the meat at
> that store was bad.

Obsess ALL the time over her, bully?

You're a gutless old trucker abuser.

**** OFF AND DIE!

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2016-04-10 11:49 AM, Roy wrote:
>> On Sunday, April 10, 2016 at 12:03:00 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>>> If someone described meat to me as being bad it usually meant
>>>> spoiled/rotten/inedible.
>>>> ====
>>>
>>> I didn't eat the stuff and I didn't ask for specifics. My mom told me
>>> it
>>> was bad. Someone else said they had a sale and the meat was really
>>> good. I
>>> bought some. Both my husband and Angela said it was bad. Those were
>>> their
>>> exact words. The person who had recommended the meat to me had taken
>>> some
>>> to where my dad was living at the time. He complained that the meat was
>>> bad
>>> as did the others that had been served the meat. Again, exact words.
>>> That
>>> was good enough for me. I haven't bought it since.
>>>
>>> What I can say that it wasn't poorly packaged. Overpriced? Well, I
>>> guess
>>> so, since it wasn't edible. I don't think it was spoiled. People just
>>> didn't like it.
>>
>> Well, that settles it...if everyone uses the word "bad", we'll never know
>> what caused the "bad" meat to be "bad". I would guess that it was just
>> created to be "bad"...probably from bad cows and bad bulls, raised by
>> "bad" ranchers.
>
> Holy crap. There is a prime example of Bovine idiocy. She posted that the
> meat at that store was bad. When pressed for specifics about it she
> claimed that she never ate it. She was going by what her husband and
> daughter said about it. Imagine that. The two people in her family who
> never like anything she cooks said it was bad. I don't think either of
> them would be in a position to know if meat is good or bad because she
> always cooks her meat as soon as she gets home and then freezes it.

Not just them. My mom, my friend, people from the dance studio who said
they didn't buy meat there.

On 4/10/2016 4:21 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-04-10 11:49 AM, Roy wrote:
>> On Sunday, April 10, 2016 at 12:03:00 AM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>>> If someone described meat to me as being bad it usually meant
>>>> spoiled/rotten/inedible. ====
>>>
>>> I didn't eat the stuff and I didn't ask for specifics. My mom
>>> told me it was bad. Someone else said they had a sale and the
>>> meat was really good. I bought some. Both my husband and Angela
>>> said it was bad. Those were their exact words. The person who
>>> had recommended the meat to me had taken some to where my dad was
>>> living at the time. He complained that the meat was bad as did
>>> the others that had been served the meat. Again, exact words.
>>> That was good enough for me. I haven't bought it since.
>>>
>>> What I can say that it wasn't poorly packaged. Overpriced?
>>> Well, I guess so, since it wasn't edible. I don't think it was
>>> spoiled. People just didn't like it.
>>
>> Well, that settles it...if everyone uses the word "bad", we'll
>> never know what caused the "bad" meat to be "bad". I would guess
>> that it was just created to be "bad"...probably from bad cows and
>> bad bulls, raised by "bad" ranchers.
>
> Holy crap. There is a prime example of Bovine idiocy. She posted that
> the meat at that store was bad. When pressed for specifics about it
> she claimed that she never ate it. She was going by what her husband
> and daughter said about it. Imagine that. The two people in her
> family who never like anything she cooks said it was bad. I don't
> think either of them would be in a position to know if meat is good
> or bad because she always cooks her meat as soon as she gets home and
> then freezes it.
>

Yep, here is another example where bove provides her other-hand
justification why she cannot be trusted --- hearsay instead of actual
experience!

Sky

================================
Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer!
Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice!
================================

On 4/10/2016 5:40 PM, Sky wrote:
> she cannot be trusted

**** off bitch.

On 4/10/2016 12:02 AM, Julie Bove wrote:

>> Well, just saying their meat is "bad" tells me next to nothing.
>> Do you mean ROTTEN?
>> Do you mean tough or stringy?
>> Do you mean poorly cut and presented?
>> Do you mean poorly packaged, wet with blood?
>> Do you mean over-priced?
>> Do you mean NOT UP TO GRADE?
>>
>> I was a meat cutter for years before I went into management.
>>
>> If someone described meat to me as being bad it usually meant
>> spoiled/rotten/inedible.
>> ====
>
> I didn't eat the stuff and I didn't ask for specifics. My mom told me
> it was bad. Someone else said they had a sale and the meat was really
> good. I bought some. Both my husband and Angela said it was bad.
> Those were their exact words. The person who had recommended the meat
> to me had taken some to where my dad was living at the time. He
> complained that the meat was bad as did the others that had been served
> the meat. Again, exact words. That was good enough for me. I haven't
> bought it since.
>
> What I can say that it wasn't poorly packaged. Overpriced? Well, I
> guess so, since it wasn't edible. I don't think it was spoiled. People
> just didn't like it.


I have heard complaints on Safeway's pork before.

So it's not uncommon. Tough and flavorless was the verdict.

"carnal asada" > wrote in message
...
> On 4/10/2016 12:02 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>> Well, just saying their meat is "bad" tells me next to nothing.
>>> Do you mean ROTTEN?
>>> Do you mean tough or stringy?
>>> Do you mean poorly cut and presented?
>>> Do you mean poorly packaged, wet with blood?
>>> Do you mean over-priced?
>>> Do you mean NOT UP TO GRADE?
>>>
>>> I was a meat cutter for years before I went into management.
>>>
>>> If someone described meat to me as being bad it usually meant
>>> spoiled/rotten/inedible.
>>> ====
>>
>> I didn't eat the stuff and I didn't ask for specifics. My mom told me
>> it was bad. Someone else said they had a sale and the meat was really
>> good. I bought some. Both my husband and Angela said it was bad.
>> Those were their exact words. The person who had recommended the meat
>> to me had taken some to where my dad was living at the time. He
>> complained that the meat was bad as did the others that had been served
>> the meat. Again, exact words. That was good enough for me. I haven't
>> bought it since.
>>
>> What I can say that it wasn't poorly packaged. Overpriced? Well, I
>> guess so, since it wasn't edible. I don't think it was spoiled. People
>> just didn't like it.
>
>
> I have heard complaints on Safeway's pork before.
>
> So it's not uncommon. Tough and flavorless was the verdict.

Safeway and Albertsons are one and the same here now. I don't buy their
meat either. Actually when I do shop at either place it is mainly for soda
pop and magazines. I might buy some bread, a bag of chips or a can of
something but I don't even care for their produce too much.

On 4/10/2016 6:08 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

>> I have heard complaints on Safeway's pork before.
>>
>> So it's not uncommon. Tough and flavorless was the verdict.
>
> Safeway and Albertsons are one and the same here now. I don't buy their
> meat either. Actually when I do shop at either place it is mainly for
> soda pop and magazines. I might buy some bread, a bag of chips or a can
> of something but I don't even care for their produce too much.

They are indeed, and maybe not for the better either...

On 4/9/2016 11:11 PM, Roy wrote:
> I was a meat cutter for years before I went into management.
>
> If someone described meat to me as being bad it usually meant spoiled/rotten/inedible.
> ====
>

Here in the States we have specific grading guidelines:

http://blogs.usda.gov/2013/01/28/wha...ice-or-select/

Beef is graded in two ways: quality grades for tenderness, juiciness and
flavor; and yield grades for the amount of usable lean meat on the
carcass. From a consumer standpoint, what do these quality beef grades mean?

Prime beef is produced from young, well-fed beef cattle. It has abundant
marbling (the amount of fat interspersed with lean meat), and is
generally sold in restaurants and hotels. Prime roasts and steaks are
excellent for dry-heat cooking such as broiling, roasting or grilling.

Choice beef is high quality, but has less marbling than Prime. Choice
roasts and steaks from the loin and rib will be very tender, juicy, and
flavorful and are suited for dry-heat cooking. Many of the less tender
cuts can also be cooked with dry heat if not overcooked. Such cuts will
be most tender if braised, roasted or simmered with a small amount of
liquid in a tightly covered pan.

Select beef is very uniform in quality and normally leaner than the
higher grades. It is fairly tender, but, because it has less marbling,
it may lack some of the juiciness and flavor of the higher grades. Only
the tender cuts should be cooked with dry heat. Other cuts should be
marinated before cooking or braised to obtain maximum tenderness and flavor.

Standard and Commercial grades of beef are frequently sold as ungraded
or as store brand meat. Utility, Cutter, and Canner grades of beef are
seldom, if ever, sold at retail but are used instead to make ground beef
and processed products.

Recently, USDA collaborated with the United States Meat Export
Federation and Colorado State University to develop an educational video
about the beef grading process. This video provides a comprehensive
overview of the beef grading system – from farm to table.

So next time you are at a restaurant or grocery store, look for the USDA
grade shield and you will better be able to answer the question, “What’s
your beef?”

Roy wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 10:15:18 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Roy" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 4:27:52 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> > >> "Janet B" > wrote in message
> > >> ...
> > >> >
> > >> > I bought some boneless, skinless chicken breasts from
> > Albertsons >> > yesterday. They were $1.69/pound. It was a decent
> > price so I got >> > what I thought was a package of 8 -- 4 on top
> > and 4 on the bottom. >> > Not so. There were only 4 breasts in
> > the package. I've weighed each >> > one. 1.5 ounce was the
> > heaviest and 1.4 was the least weighty. The >> > cut looks like
> > they are full breasts instead of the halves we are used >> > to.
> > Still, at 20 ounces for a full breast that means the halves would
> > >> > be 10 ounces and I am used to seeing 5-6 ounce breast pieces.
> > So, if >> > it was your chicken, would you figure these were really
> > old birds and >> > need a lot of stewing or would you just go ahead
> > and cook as usual? I >> > use this meat for enchilada filling and
> > stuff like that >> > Janet US
> > > >
> > >> I learned not to buy meat from Albertsons unless it is some
> > specific >> brand
> > >> like their grass fed beef. Their meat is bad.
> > >> >
> > >
> > > Not enough detail Julie...not good to make blanket statements
> > > about retailers. I'll bet that retailers HATED to see you enter
> > > their premises.
> > >
> > > I used to manage retail grocery stores...some customers are
> > > really miserable *******s...better off without them.
> > > ====
> >
> > In this case, it is valid and warranted. My mom never bought meat
> > there when I was growing up. Now I know why. This is the same
> > store where I bought all that cheap meat and had to put it in the
> > freezer.
> >
> > As I said... If it is a branded item such as the organic beef,
> > Foster Farms chicken, packaged bacon or ham, fine. I will no
> > longer buy their pork chops, chicken, steak, roasts, etc. Just not
> > good. And retailers don't dislike me. Why would they? I buy
> > stuff from them. I rarely return things. And I am polite.
>
> Well, just saying their meat is "bad" tells me next to nothing.
> Do you mean ROTTEN?
> Do you mean tough or stringy?
> Do you mean poorly cut and presented?
> Do you mean poorly packaged, wet with blood?
> Do you mean over-priced?
> Do you mean NOT UP TO GRADE?
>
> I was a meat cutter for years before I went into management.
>
> If someone described meat to me as being bad it usually meant
> spoiled/rotten/inedible. ====

I agree with you Roy. I generally get most of my meat at Harris Teeter
or BJ's and a large part of that is they have an actual person there
who can repackage to order if i can't cut it down well myself. I avoid
Food Lion and Krogers in my local area for that specific lack which
means they do not get my other money because i am not going to make 2-3
trips among stores.

I suspect those other stores do not care about shoppers like me, and
guess what, I do not care about them either.

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