On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 11:56:40 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 09:26:52 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>news >>>> On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 00:09:17 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 07:52:42 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 05 Apr 2016 14:37:33 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >On Tue, 5 Apr 2016 03:41:06 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> And I see below that he was thinking of chunks of pumpkin in a can,
>>>>>> >> rather than a can of puree. I can see where he'd think that, since
>>>>>> >> it took quite a while for any of us to say that canned pumpkin is
>>>>>> >> pureed.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >We're all speaking English, but it might as well be another language.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But if you look at the title of this thread, "Canned pumpkin
>>>>>> shortage". Not "Canned pumpkin puree shortage".
>>>>>
>>>>>Why?
>>>>
>>>> I'm just explaining why a non-American misunderstands.
>>>>
>>>>>We know it's pureed. It doesn't even say puree on the label.
>>>>>http://momspotted.com/wp-content/upl...bys-Pumkin.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Even in Spanish it doesn't say it.
>>>
>>>Just a small comment here ... when I was talking to MrD I said
>>>'grill/broiler' to make it more clear, because I knew the general word.
>>>Using your own description without knowing the US equivalent is not a
>>>matter
>>>for reprimand or humiliation.
>>
>> I think it's mainly a cultural difference. I've never seen, eaten,
>> craved or heard of pumpkin puree before. It's interesting though. So
>> far, I've picked up from the Americans here that there's a whole world
>> of beans and squash out there that I only knew 10% of
>
>Quite. We are learning the US ways. We don't need to be put down because
>we don't know.

>It might be nice if they learned our ways too since this is
>not a purely US newsgroup. I have to say though most posters here are very
>good about it and it sometimes gives us a giggle.

Some of them don't even know how much they don't know about what's
going on outside of their country. The bigger a country, the more
people tend to be inward looking. Of course, I'm from a very small
country

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Bruce

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 11:56:40 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 09:26:52 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>>news >>>>> On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 00:09:17 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 07:52:42 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 05 Apr 2016 14:37:33 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >On Tue, 5 Apr 2016 03:41:06 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> And I see below that he was thinking of chunks of pumpkin in a
>>>>>>> >> can,
>>>>>>> >> rather than a can of puree. I can see where he'd think that,
>>>>>>> >> since
>>>>>>> >> it took quite a while for any of us to say that canned pumpkin is
>>>>>>> >> pureed.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >We're all speaking English, but it might as well be another
>>>>>>> >language.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But if you look at the title of this thread, "Canned pumpkin
>>>>>>> shortage". Not "Canned pumpkin puree shortage".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm just explaining why a non-American misunderstands.
>>>>>
>>>>>>We know it's pureed. It doesn't even say puree on the label.
>>>>>>http://momspotted.com/wp-content/upl...bys-Pumkin.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Even in Spanish it doesn't say it.
>>>>
>>>>Just a small comment here ... when I was talking to MrD I said
>>>>'grill/broiler' to make it more clear, because I knew the general word.
>>>>Using your own description without knowing the US equivalent is not a
>>>>matter
>>>>for reprimand or humiliation.
>>>
>>> I think it's mainly a cultural difference. I've never seen, eaten,
>>> craved or heard of pumpkin puree before. It's interesting though. So
>>> far, I've picked up from the Americans here that there's a whole world
>>> of beans and squash out there that I only knew 10% of
>>
>>Quite. We are learning the US ways. We don't need to be put down because
>>we don't know.
>
>>It might be nice if they learned our ways too since this is
>>not a purely US newsgroup. I have to say though most posters here are
>>very
>>good about it and it sometimes gives us a giggle.
>
> Some of them don't even know how much they don't know about what's
> going on outside of their country. The bigger a country, the more
> people tend to be inward looking. Of course, I'm from a very small
> country

I noticed) I have to say though, although UK is very small, it seems to
be very much ahead with kitchen technology. That is always a big surprise.


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On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 12:23:11 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 11:56:40 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Quite. We are learning the US ways. We don't need to be put down because
>>>we don't know.
>>
>>>It might be nice if they learned our ways too since this is
>>>not a purely US newsgroup. I have to say though most posters here are
>>>very
>>>good about it and it sometimes gives us a giggle.
>>
>> Some of them don't even know how much they don't know about what's
>> going on outside of their country. The bigger a country, the more
>> people tend to be inward looking. Of course, I'm from a very small
>> country
>
>I noticed) I have to say though, although UK is very small, it seems to
>be very much ahead with kitchen technology. That is always a big surprise.

With appliances?

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Bruce

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 12:23:11 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 11:56:40 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Quite. We are learning the US ways. We don't need to be put down
>>>>because
>>>>we don't know.
>>>
>>>>It might be nice if they learned our ways too since this is
>>>>not a purely US newsgroup. I have to say though most posters here are
>>>>very
>>>>good about it and it sometimes gives us a giggle.
>>>
>>> Some of them don't even know how much they don't know about what's
>>> going on outside of their country. The bigger a country, the more
>>> people tend to be inward looking. Of course, I'm from a very small
>>> country
>>
>>I noticed) I have to say though, although UK is very small, it seems to
>>be very much ahead with kitchen technology. That is always a big
>>surprise.
>
> With appliances?

The Combination Microwave and under counter freezer discussed today.

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On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 13:41:51 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

> The Combination Microwave and under counter freezer discussed today.

Combination microwaves are common, under counter freezers are not.
Nobody I know has one and I don't see them on showroom floors.

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sf

On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 2:05:51 PM UTC-5, sf wrote:
>
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 13:41:51 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
> > The Combination Microwave and under counter freezer discussed today.
>
> Combination microwaves are common, under counter freezers are not.
> Nobody I know has one and I don't see them on showroom floors.
>
> sf
>
>
I would use an under counter freezer for ice and that's about
all. Being an under counter size they can't hold too much.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 12:23:11 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 11:56:40 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Quite. We are learning the US ways. We don't need to be put down
>>>>>because
>>>>>we don't know.
>>>>
>>>>>It might be nice if they learned our ways too since this is
>>>>>not a purely US newsgroup. I have to say though most posters here are
>>>>>very
>>>>>good about it and it sometimes gives us a giggle.
>>>>
>>>> Some of them don't even know how much they don't know about what's
>>>> going on outside of their country. The bigger a country, the more
>>>> people tend to be inward looking. Of course, I'm from a very small
>>>> country
>>>
>>>I noticed) I have to say though, although UK is very small, it seems
>>>to
>>>be very much ahead with kitchen technology. That is always a big
>>>surprise.
>>
>> With appliances?
>
> The Combination Microwave and under counter freezer discussed today.

I don't think of a combination microwave as being ahead. Just stupid. I
wouldn't want something like that. And we can get under cabinet freezers but
they are very expensive.

On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 12:23:11 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

> I have to say though, although UK is very small, it seems to
> be very much ahead with kitchen technology. That is always a big surprise.

I LOVE going through the kitchen appliance stores in London. They are
stocked with brands and models I never see here. They must hate
"lookie-lu" Americans taking pictures of their appliances as if they
were an exotic, rarely seen beast. Well, they ARE!

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sf

sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 12:23:11 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
> > I have to say though, although UK is very small, it seems to
> > be very much ahead with kitchen technology. That is always a big
> > surprise.
>
> I LOVE going through the kitchen appliance stores in London. They are
> stocked with brands and models I never see here. They must hate
> "lookie-lu" Americans taking pictures of their appliances as if they
> were an exotic, rarely seen beast. Well, they ARE!

My favorite was the Japan set of 'countertop dishwashers'. We wanted
one but couldnt afford it. It was not bigger than my dishdrain
(important as the Japanese kitchen had an 8 inch by 18 inch strip of
counter, then a 6 inch one infront of the drain and that was IT). The
whole stretch of kitchen which *included* the refrigerator and oven,
was 7ft8in. The sink and counter part was 34 inches. The sink was 13
inches wide and the drain board was 13 inches. We never got the washer
(400$ USA) but we did fine for the first 3.5 years before we were able
to move on base for a place with a larger kitchen.

Carol

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Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 11:56:40 +0100, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Bruce" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 09:26:52 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > >> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
> > > > news > >>>> On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 00:09:17 -0700, sf > wrote:
> > > > >
> >>>>>On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 07:52:42 +1000, Bruce >
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> >>>>>> On Tue, 05 Apr 2016 14:37:33 -0700, sf > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> >>>>>> >On Tue, 5 Apr 2016 03:41:06 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >>>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> And I see below that he was thinking of chunks of pumpkin
> in a can, >>>>>> >> rather than a can of puree. I can see where he'd
> think that, since >>>>>> >> it took quite a while for any of us to
> say that canned pumpkin is >>>>>> >> pureed.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> >We're all speaking English, but it might as well be another
> language.
> > > > > > >
> >>>>>> But if you look at the title of this thread, "Canned pumpkin
> >>>>>> shortage". Not "Canned pumpkin puree shortage".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why?
> > > > >
> >>>> I'm just explaining why a non-American misunderstands.
> > > > >
> > > > > > We know it's pureed. It doesn't even say puree on the
> > > > > > label.
> > > > > > http://momspotted.com/wp-content/upl...04/Libbys-Pumk
> > > > > > in.jpg
> > > > >
> >>>> Even in Spanish it doesn't say it.
> > > >
> > > > Just a small comment here ... when I was talking to MrD I said
> > > > 'grill/broiler' to make it more clear, because I knew the
> > > > general word. Using your own description without knowing the
> > > > US equivalent is not a matter
> > > > for reprimand or humiliation.
> > >
> >> I think it's mainly a cultural difference. I've never seen, eaten,
> >> craved or heard of pumpkin puree before. It's interesting though.
> So >> far, I've picked up from the Americans here that there's a
> whole world >> of beans and squash out there that I only knew 10% of
>
> >
> > Quite. We are learning the US ways. We don't need to be put down
> > because we don't know.
>
> > It might be nice if they learned our ways too since this is
> > not a purely US newsgroup. I have to say though most posters here
> > are very good about it and it sometimes gives us a giggle.
>
> Some of them don't even know how much they don't know about what's
> going on outside of their country. The bigger a country, the more
> people tend to be inward looking. Of course, I'm from a very small
> country

Grin, I'm with you.

Conversely the bigger the country, the less likely a reason to go
outside it. I'm told statistically that most USA folks have never been
outside the USA and of those who have, most have only been to Canda
along the border or Mexico along the border.

Most who have been farther, did so on a limited work or vacation trip
for a few days or a week.

I could have easily missed it but I am the only one I see posting who
has actually *lived* a significant number of years outside the USA.

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On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 18:44:56 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 11:56:40 +0100, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > It might be nice if they learned our ways too since this is
>> > not a purely US newsgroup. I have to say though most posters here
>> > are very good about it and it sometimes gives us a giggle.
>>
>> Some of them don't even know how much they don't know about what's
>> going on outside of their country. The bigger a country, the more
>> people tend to be inward looking. Of course, I'm from a very small
>> country
>
>Grin, I'm with you.
>
>Conversely the bigger the country, the less likely a reason to go
>outside it.

Yes, that definitely must apply to the US, but for me also to
Australia. It's huge and I've seen very little of it yet. I don't need
to go to other countries any time soon.

>I'm told statistically that most USA folks have never been
>outside the USA and of those who have, most have only been to Canda
>along the border or Mexico along the border.

Understandable.

>Most who have been farther, did so on a limited work or vacation trip
>for a few days or a week.
>
>I could have easily missed it but I am the only one I see posting who
>has actually *lived* a significant number of years outside the USA.

I think it broadens your perspective a lot to have such a good look
somewhere else.

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Bruce

On Thu, 07 Apr 2016 09:55:25 +1000, Bruce > wrote:

>On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 18:44:56 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>>Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>Yes, that definitely must apply to the US, but for me also to
>Australia. It's huge and I've seen very little of it yet. I don't need
>to go to other countries any time soon.
>
>>I'm told statistically that most USA folks have never been
>>outside the USA and of those who have, most have only been to Canda
>>along the border or Mexico along the border.
>
>Understandable.
>
>>Most who have been farther, did so on a limited work or vacation trip
>>for a few days or a week.
>>
>>I could have easily missed it but I am the only one I see posting who
>>has actually *lived* a significant number of years outside the USA.
>
>I think it broadens your perspective a lot to have such a good look
>somewhere else.

I hope to head off to either Vietnam or Nepal later this year... I'm
way overdue for a change of scenery. I haven't been back to the
mainland since I went to buy a car in 2010, I thought I would have by
now but a reason simply hasn't come up to do so. I've pretty much seen
all of Aus at this stage. Lived in most regions too.

On 4/6/2016 6:01 PM, Je�us wrote:
> I've pretty much seen
> all of Aus at this stage. Lived in most regions too.

Persona non grata across the nation eh?

On Thu, 07 Apr 2016 10:01:32 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Thu, 07 Apr 2016 09:55:25 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 18:44:56 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>>>Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>Yes, that definitely must apply to the US, but for me also to
>>Australia. It's huge and I've seen very little of it yet. I don't need
>>to go to other countries any time soon.
>>
>>>I'm told statistically that most USA folks have never been
>>>outside the USA and of those who have, most have only been to Canda
>>>along the border or Mexico along the border.
>>
>>Understandable.
>>
>>>Most who have been farther, did so on a limited work or vacation trip
>>>for a few days or a week.
>>>
>>>I could have easily missed it but I am the only one I see posting who
>>>has actually *lived* a significant number of years outside the USA.
>>
>>I think it broadens your perspective a lot to have such a good look
>>somewhere else.
>
>I hope to head off to either Vietnam or Nepal later this year... I'm
>way overdue for a change of scenery. I haven't been back to the
>mainland since I went to buy a car in 2010, I thought I would have by
>now but a reason simply hasn't come up to do so. I've pretty much seen
>all of Aus at this stage. Lived in most regions too.

Yes, that's a different situation. I've lived in Australia for 10
years now, but most of the time I'm too busy to travel. I've only seen
Tasmania, Sydney, parts of the East coast and a little bit of the Top
End.

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Bruce

On 4/7/2016 2:35 AM, Bruce wrote:
> I've lived in Australia for 10
> years now, but most of the time I'm too busy to travel.

So usenet beat out travel?

Sickening!

On Thu, 07 Apr 2016 18:35:59 +1000, Bruce > wrote:

>On Thu, 07 Apr 2016 10:01:32 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 07 Apr 2016 09:55:25 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 18:44:56 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>Yes, that definitely must apply to the US, but for me also to
>>>Australia. It's huge and I've seen very little of it yet. I don't need
>>>to go to other countries any time soon.
>>>
>>>>I'm told statistically that most USA folks have never been
>>>>outside the USA and of those who have, most have only been to Canda
>>>>along the border or Mexico along the border.
>>>
>>>Understandable.
>>>
>>>>Most who have been farther, did so on a limited work or vacation trip
>>>>for a few days or a week.
>>>>
>>>>I could have easily missed it but I am the only one I see posting who
>>>>has actually *lived* a significant number of years outside the USA.
>>>
>>>I think it broadens your perspective a lot to have such a good look
>>>somewhere else.
>>
>>I hope to head off to either Vietnam or Nepal later this year... I'm
>>way overdue for a change of scenery. I haven't been back to the
>>mainland since I went to buy a car in 2010, I thought I would have by
>>now but a reason simply hasn't come up to do so. I've pretty much seen
>>all of Aus at this stage. Lived in most regions too.
>
>Yes, that's a different situation. I've lived in Australia for 10
>years now, but most of the time I'm too busy to travel. I've only seen
>Tasmania, Sydney, parts of the East coast and a little bit of the Top
>End.

Well, you have plenty to look forward to in the coming years if you do
get a chance to travel around.

I still haven't seen much of Tasmania myself. I did a whirlwind tour
back in 1996, just one week. Next time in Tas was when I was moving
here in 2008. I still need to see a lot of the west and south western
part of the state, but as always, things come up and it doesn't
happen.

On Fri, 08 Apr 2016 08:46:51 +1000, Bruce > wrote:

>On Fri, 08 Apr 2016 07:31:19 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 07 Apr 2016 18:35:59 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 07 Apr 2016 10:01:32 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>>I hope to head off to either Vietnam or Nepal later this year... I'm
>>>>way overdue for a change of scenery. I haven't been back to the
>>>>mainland since I went to buy a car in 2010, I thought I would have by
>>>>now but a reason simply hasn't come up to do so. I've pretty much seen
>>>>all of Aus at this stage. Lived in most regions too.
>>>
>>>Yes, that's a different situation. I've lived in Australia for 10
>>>years now, but most of the time I'm too busy to travel. I've only seen
>>>Tasmania, Sydney, parts of the East coast and a little bit of the Top
>>>End.
>>
>>Well, you have plenty to look forward to in the coming years if you do
>>get a chance to travel around.
>>
>>I still haven't seen much of Tasmania myself. I did a whirlwind tour
>>back in 1996, just one week. Next time in Tas was when I was moving
>>here in 2008. I still need to see a lot of the west and south western
>>part of the state, but as always, things come up and it doesn't
>>happen.
>
>I guess the most beautiful parts of Tasmania can only be seen on foot.

Especially around here. Not many tourist spots as such, but if you
know where to look there are hidden rainforests, waterfalls and
totally untouched bush - only because the terrain is too harsh for the
forest industry to destroy, natch. Which is also handy for us 'bush
florists'.

Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 18:44:56 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 11:56:40 +0100, "Ophelia"
> > >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > It might be nice if they learned our ways too since this is
> >> > not a purely US newsgroup. I have to say though most posters
> here >> > are very good about it and it sometimes gives us a giggle.
> >>
> >> Some of them don't even know how much they don't know about what's
> >> going on outside of their country. The bigger a country, the more
> >> people tend to be inward looking. Of course, I'm from a very small
> >> country
> >
> > Grin, I'm with you.
> >
> > Conversely the bigger the country, the less likely a reason to go
> > outside it.
>
> Yes, that definitely must apply to the US, but for me also to
> Australia. It's huge and I've seen very little of it yet. I don't need
> to go to other countries any time soon.
>
> > I'm told statistically that most USA folks have never been
> > outside the USA and of those who have, most have only been to Canda
> > along the border or Mexico along the border.
>
> Understandable.

Yes, can take a car across or to a bridge and walk over.

> > Most who have been farther, did so on a limited work or vacation
> > trip for a few days or a week.
> >
> > I could have easily missed it but I am the only one I see posting
> > who has actually lived a significant number of years outside the
> > USA.
>
> I think it broadens your perspective a lot to have such a good look
> somewhere else.

It does. Sorry though if I got USA centric there. I meant I am one of
the few who 'are' USA who lived elsewhere that I see posting now. Most
though seem to try to understand it all.

Carol



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On 2016-04-06 10:23 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>

>>> I could have easily missed it but I am the only one I see posting
>>> who has actually lived a significant number of years outside the
>>> USA.
>>
>> I think it broadens your perspective a lot to have such a good look
>> somewhere else.
>
> It does. Sorry though if I got USA centric there. I meant I am one of
> the few who 'are' USA who lived elsewhere that I see posting now. Most
> though seem to try to understand it all.

I have met lots of Americans on my travels. While there is a lot to see
and do in the US, so lots of vacation destinations without leaving their
own country, Americans do travel overseas a lot. According to a US
government traveal and trade site, 32 million Americans travelled
overseas last year and the most common destination was Europe, with more
than 12.5 million heading there. Another 7.5 million went to the
Caribbean another 5 million to Central and South America and 2 million
to the middle east. Another 28 million went to Mexico and 12/5 million
to Canada. The total number of people who travelled to points outside
of the US is more than 70 million, roughly 20% of the population.

On 4/7/2016 7:37 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> I have met lots of Americans on my travels.

What a shame...for THEM!

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On 4/7/2016 7:37 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> I have met lots of Americans on my travels.
>
> What a shame...for THEM!

Yes. I hope our paths never cross.

Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 2016-04-06 10:23 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
>
> > > > I could have easily missed it but I am the only one I see
> > > > posting who has actually lived a significant number of years
> > > > outside the USA.
> > >
> > > I think it broadens your perspective a lot to have such a good
> > > look somewhere else.
> >
> > It does. Sorry though if I got USA centric there. I meant I am one
> > of the few who 'are' USA who lived elsewhere that I see posting
> > now. Most though seem to try to understand it all.
>
> I have met lots of Americans on my travels. While there is a lot to
> see and do in the US, so lots of vacation destinations without
> leaving their own country, Americans do travel overseas a lot.
> According to a US government traveal and trade site, 32 million
> Americans travelled overseas last year and the most common
> destination was Europe, with more than 12.5 million heading there.
> Another 7.5 million went to the Caribbean another 5 million to
> Central and South America and 2 million to the middle east. Another
> 28 million went to Mexico and 12/5 million to Canada. The total
> number of people who travelled to points outside of the US is more
> than 70 million, roughly 20% of the population.

Well Dave, we travel but there is a difference that got chopped out
here. There's a huge difference in a vacation for a week and living
elsewhere for a bit.

BTW the math there is pretty fuzzy. It's not adding up. If you run a
calculator over it though, you get 67.5M of which 27M are going to
other than Canada or Mexico. 40% of our travel out of USA is
'elsewhere' and if you take out our backyard of the Caribbean, it goes
way down because that 7.5M of the 27M above.

(27M-7.5M)/67.5*100= 28.88% of the USA population that do vacation
overseas, travel far from home. If the assessment is accurate, then of
the 20% who travel outside the country, only 29% of those go further
than Mexico, Canada, or the Caribbean.

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On 4/7/2016 9:37 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I have met lots of Americans on my travels. While there is a lot to see
> and do in the US, so lots of vacation destinations without leaving their
> own country, Americans do travel overseas a lot. According to a US
> government traveal and trade site, 32 million Americans travelled
> overseas last year and the most common destination was Europe, with more
> than 12.5 million heading there. Another 7.5 million went to the
> Caribbean another 5 million to Central and South America and 2 million
> to the middle east. Another 28 million went to Mexico and 12/5 million
> to Canada. The total number of people who travelled to points outside
> of the US is more than 70 million, roughly 20% of the population.
>
Come on down to Dataw, Dave. Sit with me in the Pub room at the Club on
a Friday evening. You'll overhear lots of people talking about how they
just got back from Germany or France. There's a listserv for residents
called the 'Dataw Net' and people are always looking to buy Euros for an
upcoming trip. It would seem someone on Dataw always has Euros to sell.

Point is, though, most of us do have a basic understanding that many
things are different in other countries. Most of us can eke out the
meaning based on the context of the post.

Jill

On 4/7/2016 8:37 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-04-06 10:23 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> Bruce wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>
>>>> I could have easily missed it but I am the only one I see posting
>>>> who has actually lived a significant number of years outside the
>>>> USA.
>>>
>>> I think it broadens your perspective a lot to have such a good look
>>> somewhere else.
>>
>> It does. Sorry though if I got USA centric there. I meant I am one of
>> the few who 'are' USA who lived elsewhere that I see posting now. Most
>> though seem to try to understand it all.
>
> I have met lots of Americans on my travels. While there is a lot to see
> and do in the US, so lots of vacation destinations without leaving their
> own country, Americans do travel overseas a lot. According to a US
> government traveal and trade site, 32 million Americans travelled
> overseas last year and the most common destination was Europe, with more
> than 12.5 million heading there. Another 7.5 million went to the
> Caribbean another 5 million to Central and South America and 2 million
> to the middle east. Another 28 million went to Mexico and 12/5 million
> to Canada. The total number of people who travelled to points outside
> of the US is more than 70 million, roughly 20% of the population.
>

I have always enjoyed traveling, although I don't do much now because of
lower back pain. It even hurts to lean down to feed my cats and clean
their litter boxes, but I do pretty well. I have been in all U.S.
states except Hawaii, Canada, Mexico, Caribbean, Central America,
Greece, Turkey (Ephesus), several days in the Greek Islands, Fiji,
Australia, and New Zealand. I have enjoyed everywhere I visited and
have not had the unfortunate experiences that some people complain about.

MaryL

On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 09:44:16 -0500, MaryL >
wrote:

>I have been in all U.S. states except Hawaii, Canada, Mexico,
>Caribbean, Central America, Greece, Turkey (Ephesus), several
>days in the Greek Islands, Fiji, Australia

Hey...

On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 18:44:56 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

> I could have easily missed it but I am the only one I see posting who
> has actually *lived* a significant number of years outside the USA.

Ophelia has, but it was similar to your situation. Work related.

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sf

sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 18:44:56 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > I could have easily missed it but I am the only one I see posting
> > who has actually lived a significant number of years outside the
> > USA.
>
> Ophelia has, but it was similar to your situation. Work related.

THats good to know and yes, she shows an understanding of how things
can be different and to simply enjoy the good and work around the 'too
different to feel good but that's how it is'.



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cshenk wrote:
>
> I could have easily missed it but I am the only one I see posting who
> has actually *lived* a significant number of years outside the USA.

And with all those worldly travels, I notice that you decided to come
back to the USA to finish out your life.

Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> cshenk wrote:
> >
> > I could have easily missed it but I am the only one I see posting
> > who has actually lived a significant number of years outside the
> > USA.
>
> And with all those worldly travels, I notice that you decided to come
> back to the USA to finish out your life.

Of course. It was Navy duty locations.

Anyways, I'm not saying folks are bad here, merely that when the
non-USA folks say it's a bit USA centric, they are right. They do not
seem to mind as long as folks are accepting of a question but you get
some pretty GLARING replies where some here have never lived outside
their local area and really do not 'get it'.

I looked back at that picture of the stash from Peter. Yeah, Nestly
coffee in a tube! I seem to recall it got used up really fast. I do
not recall if I saw it in Darwin but then, I'd have not recognized it
for what it was.

In Japan they sell what looks like a tube of toothpaste that is filled
with thick creamy chocolate and you put it on bread and spread it and
eat it that way.

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On 4/7/2016 7:31 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> cshenk wrote:
>>>
>>> I could have easily missed it but I am the only one I see posting
>>> who has actually lived a significant number of years outside the
>>> USA.
>>
>> And with all those worldly travels, I notice that you decided to come
>> back to the USA to finish out your life.
>
> Of course. It was Navy duty locations.
>
> Anyways, I'm not saying folks are bad here, merely that when the
> non-USA folks say it's a bit USA centric, they are right. They do not
> seem to mind as long as folks are accepting of a question but you get
> some pretty GLARING replies where some here have never lived outside
> their local area and really do not 'get it'.

Sorry but you don't have to have lived outside the USA to have a basic
understanding that things are different in other countries. Even those
NOT right on our borders.

I lived in Thailand for two years. What has it got to do with
pumpkins/gourds or other cooking terminology? Next to nothing.

Jill