<http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>

it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
desserts "salad"

proving again that HL Mencken was correct

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 4:50:05 PM UTC-5, tert in seattle wrote:
> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>
> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> desserts "salad"
>
> proving again that HL Mencken was correct

Same goes for pasta "salad" and tuna "salad." If it's not green leafy stuff,
it's not salad.

--Bryan

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:30:14 PM UTC-6, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 4:50:05 PM UTC-5, tert in seattle wrote:
> > <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
> >
> > it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> > some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> > desserts "salad"
> >
> > proving again that HL Mencken was correct
>
> Same goes for pasta "salad" and tuna "salad." If it's not green leafy stuff,
> it's not salad.
>
> --Bryan

Tradionally in Midwestern 20th century United States, yes.

John Kuthe...

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:47:12 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> wrote:

> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>
> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> desserts "salad"
>
> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
>

I've eaten that strawberry pretzel concoction and it was delicious.
Fortunately it wasn't sold as salad.

--

sf

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>

What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?

> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> desserts "salad"
>
> proving again that HL Mencken was correct

The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
this definition of "salad":

<http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>

1 any of various usually cold dishes: as

a : raw greens (as lettuce) often combined with other vegetables and toppings and served especially with dressing

b : small pieces of food (as pasta, meat, fruit, or vegetables) usually mixed with a dressing (as mayonnaise) or set in gelatin

2
: a green vegetable or herb grown for salad; especially : lettuce

3
: a usually incongruous mixture : hodgepodge

Sounds like Jello salad fits a couple of those definitions.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
>> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>
> What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
>
>> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
>> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
>> desserts "salad"
>>
>> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
>
> The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
> this definition of "salad":
>
><http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>

I didn't know that MW is "the" dictionary!

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 7:10:06 AM UTC-6, tert in seattle wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> >> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
> >
> > What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
> >
> >> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> >> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> >> desserts "salad"
> >>
> >> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
> >
> > The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
> > this definition of "salad":
> >
> ><http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>
>
> I didn't know that MW is "the" dictionary!

People somehow feel more secure with something just because it's "written"!

Speaks greatly to why peole believe religions!! "Oh oh, but IT IS WRITTEN in the good book!" Who wrote the book? DUH!!

John Kuthe...

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 10:31:39 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> People somehow feel more secure with something just because it's "written"!
>
> Speaks greatly to why peole believe religions!! "Oh oh, but IT IS WRITTEN in the good book!" Who wrote the book? DUH!!
>
> John Kuthe...

Politicians certainly collated the book and probably wrote it too.

http://www.richardfisher.com

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 8:56:23 AM UTC-6, Helpful person wrote:
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 10:31:39 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> >
> > People somehow feel more secure with something just because it's "written"!
> >
> > Speaks greatly to why peole believe religions!! "Oh oh, but IT IS WRITTEN in the good book!" Who wrote the book? DUH!!
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
> Politicians certainly collated the book and probably wrote it too.
>
> http://www.richardfisher.com

Actually, the Christian Bible has been rewritten and recompiled by every powers that be thoughout it's history, the reign of King James being the last majorally accepted version. Many "books" were left out, and many others were rewritten to suit the Ownership class of the time. Note that the modern Christian Bibie makes NO mention of the powers each human has called intelligence and critical analysis!! It's basically a book of conformity!! :-(

Screw that!!

John Kuthe...

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:31:33 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 7:10:06 AM UTC-6, tert in seattle wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
>> >> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>> >
>> > What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
>> >
>> >> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
>> >> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
>> >> desserts "salad"
>> >>
>> >> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
>> >
>> > The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
>> > this definition of "salad":
>> >
>> ><http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>
>>
>> I didn't know that MW is "the" dictionary!
>
>People somehow feel more secure with something just because it's "written"!

Written Schmitten...
Kootchie and Bwrrryan in JELLO is a Fruit Salad! LOL

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:31:33 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 7:10:06 AM UTC-6, tert in seattle wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
>> >> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>> >
>> > What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
>> >
>> >> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
>> >> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
>> >> desserts "salad"
>> >>
>> >> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
>> >
>> > The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
>> > this definition of "salad":
>> >
>> ><http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>
>>
>> I didn't know that MW is "the" dictionary!
>
>People somehow feel more secure with something just because it's "written"!
>
>Speaks greatly to why peole believe religions!! "Oh oh, but IT IS WRITTEN in the good book!" Who wrote the book? DUH!!
>
>John Kuthe...

what did you cook today, John?
Janet US

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 9:25:56 AM UTC-6, Janet B wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:31:33 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 7:10:06 AM UTC-6, tert in seattle wrote:
> >> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> >> >> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
> >> >
> >> > What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
> >> >
> >> >> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> >> >> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> >> >> desserts "salad"
> >> >>
> >> >> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
> >> >
> >> > The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
> >> > this definition of "salad":
> >> >
> >> ><http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>
> >>
> >> I didn't know that MW is "the" dictionary!
> >
> >People somehow feel more secure with something just because it's "written"!
> >
> >Speaks greatly to why peole believe religions!! "Oh oh, but IT IS WRITTEN in the good book!" Who wrote the book? DUH!!
> >
> >John Kuthe...
>
> what did you cook today, John?
> Janet US

Just my breakfast, so far. Made a big batch of my home made "baked beans" yesterday and added too much water to the sauce, so they turned out much like bean soup almost! OK because I eat them with lots of brown rice and chopped ham. It was delicious earlier this AM!

And I cook every day because I rarely buy any (many?) processed foods.

John Kuthe...

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 9:10:06 AM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> >> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
> >
> > What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
> >
> >> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> >> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> >> desserts "salad"
> >>
> >> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
> >
> > The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
> > this definition of "salad":
> >
> ><http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>
>
> I didn't know that MW is "the" dictionary!

OED was similar, although since we're talking about the American
Midwest, it didn't seem germane.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:03:18 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> >> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
> >
> > What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
> >
> >> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> >> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> >> desserts "salad"
> >>
> >> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
> >
> > The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
> > this definition of "salad":
> >
> ><http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>
>
> I didn't know that MW is "the" dictionary!

It is in the USA.

--

sf

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 4:31:03 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> > <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>
> What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
>
> > it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> > some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> > desserts "salad"
> >
> > proving again that HL Mencken was correct
>
> The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
> this definition of "salad":
>
> <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>
>
> 1 any of various usually cold dishes: as
>
> a : raw greens (as lettuce) often combined with other vegetables and toppings and served especially with dressing
>
> b : small pieces of food (as pasta, meat, fruit, or vegetables) usually mixed with a dressing (as mayonnaise) or set in gelatin
>
> 2
> : a green vegetable or herb grown for salad; especially : lettuce
>
> 3
> : a usually incongruous mixture : hodgepodge
>
> Sounds like Jello salad fits a couple of those definitions.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Still letting culture tell you who to be, eh? :-(

Culture is NOT YOUR FRIEND!!

John Kuthe...

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:29:17 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 4:31:03 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:50:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
>> > <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>>
>> What are Ms. Briggs' credentials as a culinary anthropologist?
>>
>> > it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
>> > some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
>> > desserts "salad"
>> >
>> > proving again that HL Mencken was correct
>>
>> The dictionary, which describes rather than prescribes usage, offers
>> this definition of "salad":
>>
>> <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/salad>
>>
>> 1 any of various usually cold dishes: as
>>
>> a : raw greens (as lettuce) often combined with other vegetables and toppings and served especially with dressing
>>
>> b : small pieces of food (as pasta, meat, fruit, or vegetables) usually mixed with a dressing (as mayonnaise) or set in gelatin
>>
>> 2
>> : a green vegetable or herb grown for salad; especially : lettuce
>>
>> 3
>> : a usually incongruous mixture : hodgepodge
>>
>> Sounds like Jello salad fits a couple of those definitions.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>Still letting culture tell you who to be, eh? :-(
>
>Culture is NOT YOUR FRIEND!!
>
>John Kuthe...

JELLO in of itself is not a salad but JELLO is often a salad dressing.

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:47:12 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> wrote:

><http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>
>it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
>some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
>desserts "salad"
>
>proving again that HL Mencken was correct
>


So how do you classify it if it has both fruit and vegetables in it?
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

The Cook wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:47:12 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> wrote:
>
>><http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>>
>>it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
>>some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
>>desserts "salad"
>>
>>proving again that HL Mencken was correct
>>
>
>
> So how do you classify it if it has both fruit and vegetables in it?

not enough info

anyhow, I would be curious to know what associations people have for the
word "salad"

I think "healthy" is one of them, even for people from the Midwest

the origins, from some website --

The word "salad" comes from the Latin sal (salt, whence the adjective
salatus, salted). The oldest English language cookbook, The Forme of
Cury, dates from the 14th century, and contains a recipe for salad
which includes lettuce, leeks and spinach served with garlic, herbs
and flowers. The first cookbook specifically about salads -- Salads
and Salad Making -- was published in 1883.

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:20:06 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> The Cook wrote:
> > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:47:12 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> > wrote:
> >
> >><http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
> >>
> >>it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> >>some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> >>desserts "salad"
> >>
> >>proving again that HL Mencken was correct
> >>
> >
> >
> > So how do you classify it if it has both fruit and vegetables in it?
>
> not enough info
>
> anyhow, I would be curious to know what associations people have for the
> word "salad"
>
> I think "healthy" is one of them, even for people from the Midwest

Midwesterner all my life.

My associations with "salad" pretty much match the dictionary definition.
Vegetables, meat, or starch dressed with something.

"Healthy" is the devil in the details. A pile of greens and other
vegetables with a nice vinaigrette or buttermilk-based dressing is healthful.
Start crapping it up with cheese (unless it's a main-dish salad) and it
starts becoming less healthful quite rapidly. I wish restaurants would
say "Warning! Side salad has cheese!" right on their menus so I could
ask them to omit it.

Other salads, like potato salad, are less healthful from the get-go. So
many of them appear to be a vehicle for maximizing mayonnaise ingestion.

Jello salad isn't really in my culinary lexicon. I've never liked it,
although I liked plain cherry jello when I was a kid.

I had a nice Greek salad for lunch today, with some warm bread and
olive oil on the side. The feta cheese provided the protein for
the meal.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> "Healthy" is the devil in the details. A pile of greens and other
> vegetables with a nice vinaigrette or buttermilk-based dressing is healthful.
> Start crapping it up with cheese (unless it's a main-dish salad) and it
> starts becoming less healthful quite rapidly. I wish restaurants would
> say "Warning! Side salad has cheese!" right on their menus so I could
> ask them to omit it.

There are those who say the devil is in the details, and others who say
that god is in the details, but I've never heard anyone say "such-and-such
is the devil in the details."

Cheese makes it less healthful? how so?

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 3:40:05 PM UTC-4, tert in seattle wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > "Healthy" is the devil in the details. A pile of greens and other
> > vegetables with a nice vinaigrette or buttermilk-based dressing is healthful.
> > Start crapping it up with cheese (unless it's a main-dish salad) and it
> > starts becoming less healthful quite rapidly. I wish restaurants would
> > say "Warning! Side salad has cheese!" right on their menus so I could
> > ask them to omit it.
>
> There are those who say the devil is in the details, and others who say
> that god is in the details, but I've never heard anyone say "such-and-such
> is the devil in the details."

I believe I coined the phrase about an hour ago, paraphrasing the
bowdlerization of Mies van der Rohe. I steal from the best.

> Cheese makes it less healthful? how so?

Fat and calories, of which I get plenty in the main dish when salad is
a side. I provided a disclaimer that "crapping it up with cheeses"
doesn't apply when the salad is a main dish.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:34:07 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> wrote:

> Cheese makes it less healthful? how so?

Cheese spoil salad for me. I dislike both cheddar (in particular) and
feta on a salad. The only cheese I don't object to is parmesan, but I
leave it off when given a choice.

--

sf

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:18:44 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

> I wish restaurants would
> say "Warning! Side salad has cheese!" right on their menus so I could
> ask them to omit it.

Yes, me too... it's usually big chain restaurants, so I should know
better - but I don't eat at them very often, so I am always surprised.
>
> Other salads, like potato salad, are less healthful from the get-go. So
> many of them appear to be a vehicle for maximizing mayonnaise ingestion.
>
> Jello salad isn't really in my culinary lexicon. I've never liked it,
> although I liked plain cherry jello when I was a kid.

I haven't eaten them very often, but I don't dislike them. At least I
don't dislike what I remember and now that he reminded me about jello
"salad", I'm thinking about bringing one to the Easter gathering.
>
> I had a nice Greek salad for lunch today, with some warm bread and
> olive oil on the side. The feta cheese provided the protein for
> the meal.
>
I've never grown to like salads like that. They're in the jello salad
category for me, except I never consider making one.

--

sf

On 3/24/2016 12:06 PM, The Cook wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:47:12 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
> > wrote:
>
>> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>>
>> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
>> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
>> desserts "salad"
>>
>> proving again that HL Mencken was correct

> So how do you classify it if it has both fruit and vegetables in it?

I had carrot cake salad just a couple of days ago. Had carrots and
raisins and pineapple. I do love salad. heh

nancy

On 2016-03-24, Nancy Young > wrote:

> I had carrot cake salad just a couple of days ago. Had carrots and
> raisins and pineapple. I do love salad. heh

In orange Jello?

nb

On 3/24/2016 3:36 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2016-03-24, Nancy Young > wrote:
>
>> I had carrot cake salad just a couple of days ago. Had carrots and
>> raisins and pineapple. I do love salad. heh
>
> In orange Jello?

No jello. Cream cheese frosting, it's like thick salad dressing.

nancy

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:03:17 -0400, Nancy Young
> wrote:

>On 3/24/2016 3:36 PM, notbob wrote:
>> On 2016-03-24, Nancy Young > wrote:
>>
>>> I had carrot cake salad just a couple of days ago. Had carrots and
>>> raisins and pineapple. I do love salad. heh
>>
>> In orange Jello?
>
>No jello. Cream cheese frosting, it's like thick salad dressing.
>
>nancy

BJs sells 24 count cartons of JELLO in small plastic cups, orange
JELLO, half with fruit cocktail, half with mandarin orange sections, I
just yesterday put a full case in the fridge... nice to have for a
snack. I also make box JELLO from scratch, I like lemon, lime, and
other flavors. The small containers often work out better because
when I make a whole large box I'm apt to start eating and eat the
entire big bowlful in one sitting. I got a half dozen beautiful
bananas too and I like JELLO with sliced bananas in it. I'll prepare
two large boxes of no-sugar and I use about 25% less water, I like
JELLO firm but still somewhat jiggly, like teenage bosoms. BJs also
sells 24 count cartons of tapioca pudding, half vanilla, half cinnamon
flavored, I got that too... a couple of my cats love vanilla tapioca
pudding, they don't like cinnamon. I've always liked JELLO, used to
be featured as dessert at Chinese restaurants... I still like a bowl
of JELLO, vanilla ice cream, and kumquats... that's my favorite word
to say; K U M Q U A T.

That's funny, nancy....great description...and those healthy carrots
and fruit! LOL.

N.

On 3/25/2016 8:26 AM, Nancy2 wrote:

> That's funny, nancy....great description...and those healthy carrots
> and fruit! LOL.

(laugh) Salad is in the eye of the beholder, apparently.
I haven't even seen any kind of Jello concoction in years,
but I never heard of it being called salad. Jello mold.

If I was told there would be salad, and out came Jello
with stuff in it, I would be quite surprised.

nancy

On 2016-03-25, Nancy Young > wrote:

> If I was told there would be salad, and out came Jello
> with stuff in it, I would be quite surprised.

.....or somewhere where Jello salads were not popular.

I recall seeing a Jello salad in the salad cold case in a Greyhound
bus terminal's cafeteria. Cottage cheese and/or coleslaw in grn or
org Jello. Fruit cocktail in red Jello was a 50s/60s std. Even our
school cafeteria served it. That's as close to "dessert" as Jello
ever got, unless you like Ambrosia salads, the one's with Jello cubes
and cool hwhip. (bleh)

nb

On 2016-03-25 10:08 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 3/25/2016 8:26 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>
>> That's funny, nancy....great description...and those healthy carrots
>> and fruit! LOL.
>
> (laugh) Salad is in the eye of the beholder, apparently.
> I haven't even seen any kind of Jello concoction in years,
> but I never heard of it being called salad. Jello mold.
>
> If I was told there would be salad, and out came Jello
> with stuff in it, I would be quite surprised.
>


I remember it being called Jelly Salad.... back in the 50s. It would be
yellow, orange or green Jello with shredded carrots and cabbage. I have
a faint recollection of one with cottage cheese in it. Then there was
jelly fruit salad, Jello loaded with bits of fruit. I liked that much
more.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/25/2016 8:26 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>
>> That's funny, nancy....great description...and those healthy carrots
>> and fruit! LOL.
>
> (laugh) Salad is in the eye of the beholder, apparently.
> I haven't even seen any kind of Jello concoction in years,
> but I never heard of it being called salad. Jello mold.
>
> If I was told there would be salad, and out came Jello
> with stuff in it, I would be quite surprised.
>
> nancy

I've made Jell-O salad but not all Jell-O is salad.

When I was pregnant, I was supposed to eat snacks. I didn't want to. But I
found that by portioning the food out into Jell-O, I could better eat it. I
used those tiny disposable cups so it really was small amounts. For one, I
used a combination of berries, cooked in a red Jell-O and the vanilla
pudding powder. The end result was supposed to be like pie filling.

The other was the actual salad. I used a citrus flavor Jell-O and added
chopped veggies. Always used carrot and celery but might also add green
onion if I had it and sometimes some pecans or walnuts.

For the holidays when I was growing up, we had Cranberry salad. It was a
mix of chopped cranberries, celery, and perhaps some apple and orange. Also
pecans. Calls for cranberry Jell-O which I think is no longer made. So mom
switched to using orange. Original recipe also called for a lot of sugar.

I changed this up to contain less carbs by leaving out the apple and orange
and using orange zest instead. I use pretty much equal parts of
cranberries, celery and nuts and just enough Jell-O to hold it together.
Sugar free of course and some artificial sweetener.

nancy, around here, we usually say, "Jello salad," if that's what intended.
I don't go to buffet restaurants, so I don't know if they are available
commercially, but home cooks certainly make them. And they are found
at church suppers.

I am not too proud to say I like some of the "old standards," like Perfection
Salad, and Sunshine Salad.

N.

On 3/23/2016 11:47 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
> <http://tracybriggs.areavoices.com/2016/03/19/attention-fellow-midwesterners-jello-isnt-salad/>
>
> it's a little long - I did read some of it, and learned that apparently
> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
> desserts "salad"
>
> proving again that HL Mencken was correct
>
>

I figured out in the early 70's that people put some weird nomenclature
on foods - including salad. I'm just surprised that anybody over the age
of 19 would still have this issue unresolved. OTOH, I did have some
seaweed salad yesterday so if somebody has some problem with calling it
that, I can see their point.

https://kawasushi.files.wordpress.co...eed-salad2.jpg

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:20:42 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>> some clever marketing types came up with the brilliant idea of naming
>> desserts "salad"

>It's not just for dessert anymore.
Was it ever "just for dessert"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspic

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