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What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
"Janet B" > wrote in message ... > On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 01:03:28 -0000, Janet > wrote: > snip >> >> Here is Patty's Eggnest Everett; scroll down and there's a full colour >>picture of "Biscuits and gravy with scrambled eggs, bacon and >>hashbrowns" with the customer's review of it. >> > snip >> >> >> Janet UK > :) > Janet US Another idiot. It says like I said... Biscuits and gravy. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
> wrote in message ... > On Saturday, 27 February 2016 17:57:42 UTC, sf wrote: >> On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 08:15:09 -0800 (PST), wrote: >> >> > On Saturday, 27 February 2016 08:58:48 UTC, sf wrote: >> > > On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 19:41:07 -0800 (PST), wrote: >> > > >> > > > On Friday, 26 February 2016 18:44:29 UTC, sf wrote: >> > > > > On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 01:23:20 -0800 (PST), >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > So I googled scone recipes and the top 9 hits all contain >> > > > > > sugar. That surprised me. Suffice it to say, if you don't >> > > > > > want sweet sone don't use sugar. >> > > > > > >> > > > > I Googled Buttermilk Scones and that wasn't the case, so Google >> > > > > has >> > > > > probably learned that you search for sweet recipes. >> > > > > >> > > > ...or maybe its just the particular recipe you googled. I don't >> > > > google recipes very >> > > > often (I have a lot of cookery books), but when I do they're >> > > > usually savoury. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > You sound like Julie. You say you Googled, I Googled and then you >> > > say >> > > you don't Google. What's obvious is you don't know how Google works. >> > > <shrug> >> > > >> > You need to get yourself a pair of reading glasses. I said "I don't >> > google recipes very often". >> > >> Make up your mind. If you Google recipes, then Google has learned >> what you look for. >> > This is not about me making up my mind so much as its you shit stirring. > > Since I'm diabetic and live on my own recipes I google are usually > savoury. It's a rare thing for me to look up anything sweet. > > Cherry Yep. And I didn't even use Google when I looked up the recipes. |
My Grandmother's Scone Recipe (WAS: What's for Dinner? (2/23/16))
"Doris Night" > wrote in message ... > On 27 Feb 2016 18:07:28 GMT, notbob > wrote: > >>On 2016-02-27, Janet > wrote: >> >>> Stand back folks; make a space. Here comes another big one. >> >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti_Red > > But wiki says there is spaghetti in spaghetti red. Julie said her > spaghetti red didn't have spaghetti in it. I wondered how she made it. > > Doris Brown some ground beef and boil some macaroni. Mix together with chili powder and whatever form of tomato product you have in the house. Bake in a casserole. That's how they made it. My grandma could really stretch the ground beef by adding a ton of macaroni. They always called it Spaghetti Red. My point was that just because you had a relative who made something and called it by some name doesn't meant that is how most people make it. |
Scones - was: What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On 2/25/2016 8:02 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/25/2016 7:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On 2/25/2016 12:54 PM, sf wrote: >>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:05:22 -0500, jmcquown > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >>>>>> fruit in them. >>>>> >>>>> Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My >>>>> grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained >>>>> fruit. Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. >>>>> >>>> Your grandmother was Scottish and called biscuits scones. >>>> >>> She was Scottish but she made triangular shaped rolled scones. She >>> never called them biscuits. >> >> You missed the point. >> > No, you did. > >> These are the famous scones in this state: >> >> http://fisherscones.com/ >> >> They are very sweet. I can't personally see the appeal but people go to >> the fair just to get them. I tried one once. Far too sweet for my >> liking. > > Uh huh. Where you live is not indicative of the rest of this huge country. My understanding is "scones" can be EITHER sweet OR savory!! It's up to the cook/chef/shop/store ---> just that simple and end of story. Oh but wait, there's more <g>!!!! Bove will undoubtedly respond with all sorts of contradiction(s)! Sky -- ================================ Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer! Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice! ================================ |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On 2/25/2016 8:09 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/25/2016 7:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> (snip) >> >> Oops. Sent blank reply. The store I am headed to sells huge scones >> with fruit in them and they are dipped in a thick glaze. > > I'm sure you could find a case of them online. Then they'll be moldy or > otherwise distasteful, as all of your shopping experiences tend to be. > > When are you going to learn where you live is not indicative of the > entire country? Doesn't it seem that bove is incapable to learn from experience(s) because the same mistakes are seemingly repeated ... and repeated (blah-blah)? That's more than evident due to the incessant posts bove writes (er, cough, cough) here in RFC. Yikes . . . what problem next when bove makes yet additional online purchases for more items, food-related or otherwise? Don't worry . . . stay tuned for the next episode, same channel, same times . . . ad nauseum. Sky -- ================================ Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer! Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice! ================================ |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On 2/27/2016 11:19 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
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What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 04:11:29 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: >"Janet" > wrote in message >> Where Julie lives,how Julie cooks, what Julie knows about what scone >> means in Bothell or USA is completely irrelevent. >> >> There's a whole world outside Bothell and the USA where "scone" does >> not mean sugar filled crap made from a packet mix coated with icing. > >That could be. But if you go to any store here and buy a scone, I can >pretty well guarantee you that it will be sweet. Bullshit. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:20:07 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > >"Jeßus" > wrote in message .. . >> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:05:22 -0500, jmcquown > >> wrote: >> >>>On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>> >>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >>>> >>>> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >>>> fruit in them. >>> >>>Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. >> >> Julie is wrong about Bothell itself, too: >> http://www.villageeateryandteacompany.com/menu.html >> http://elizabethandalexander.com/menu/ > >What was I wrong about? "Here, scones are always sweet" >I never said that we had no tea shops. I don't go >to them. I don't even go into Bothell proper. No need to. I do know that >whatever tea shop that was at Country Village is now closed. Not sure what >the name of it was. Are you trying to say that the scones served at those >tea shops are not sweet? Yes. >I see a cheese one listed. Also plain and lemon. >But to me, a plain scone is sweet a it has sugar in it. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:24:10 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > >"Jeßus" > wrote in message .. . >> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 04:53:25 -0800, "Julie Bove" >> > wrote: >> >>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message ... >>>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 19:02:48 -0500, jmcquown > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Sounds good, although I've never had these 'biscuits' I keep seeing >>>>> mentioned on RFC :) >>>>> >>>>>>What's on your menu? >>>>> >>>>> Invited over to a friend's place tonight for dinner, I think it >>>>> involves lamb. >>>> >>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >>> >>>Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have fruit >>>in >>>them. >> >> Julie Julie Julie... invoking the 'Bothell factor' again? >> A quick search reveals that not to be the case, of course. >> And by that I mean there are shops specifically in Bothell that sell >> different kinds of scones. > >I don't usually shop in Bothell. I know there was a tea shop at Country >Village but it closed last month. You posted menus but there was no way to >tell from that if those scones are sweet or not. Because they are real scones. Ergo - they are not sweet. |
My Grandmother's Scone Recipe (WAS: What's for Dinner?(2/23/16))
On 2/27/2016 8:53 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Doris Night" > wrote in message > ... >> On 27 Feb 2016 18:07:28 GMT, notbob > wrote: >> >>> On 2016-02-27, Janet > wrote: >>> >>>> Stand back folks; make a space. Here comes another big one. >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti_Red >> >> But wiki says there is spaghetti in spaghetti red. Julie said her >> spaghetti red didn't have spaghetti in it. I wondered how she made it. >> >> Doris > > Brown some ground beef and boil some macaroni. Mix together with chili > powder and whatever form of tomato product you have in the house. Bake > in a casserole. That's how they made it. My grandma could really > stretch the ground beef by adding a ton of macaroni. They always called > it Spaghetti Red. My point was that just because you had a relative who > made something and called it by some name doesn't meant that is how most > people make it. Spaghetti = pasta! Macaroni = pasta! Tomato = red! Yet again bove, the 'writer' (cough-cough) creates fiction. Does anyone care if 'macaroni' was used instead of 'spaghetti' - pasta is pasta! Keep going bove, the hole you dig for yourself just keeps getting deeper & deeper and all that much more difficult to climb out! Bove is so far from 'credible' that the woman seems to be light-years from reality! Sky -- ================================ Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer! Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice! ================================ |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
"Jeßus" > wrote in message ... > On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 04:11:29 -0800, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >>"Janet" > wrote in message >>> Where Julie lives,how Julie cooks, what Julie knows about what scone >>> means in Bothell or USA is completely irrelevent. >>> >>> There's a whole world outside Bothell and the USA where "scone" does >>> not mean sugar filled crap made from a packet mix coated with icing. >> >>That could be. But if you go to any store here and buy a scone, I can >>pretty well guarantee you that it will be sweet. > > Bullshit. Not wrong. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
"Jeßus" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:24:10 -0800, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >> >>"Jeßus" > wrote in message . .. >>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 04:53:25 -0800, "Julie Bove" >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message ... >>>>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 19:02:48 -0500, jmcquown > >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Sounds good, although I've never had these 'biscuits' I keep seeing >>>>>> mentioned on RFC :) >>>>>> >>>>>>>What's on your menu? >>>>>> >>>>>> Invited over to a friend's place tonight for dinner, I think it >>>>>> involves lamb. >>>>> >>>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >>>> >>>>Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >>>>fruit >>>>in >>>>them. >>> >>> Julie Julie Julie... invoking the 'Bothell factor' again? >>> A quick search reveals that not to be the case, of course. >>> And by that I mean there are shops specifically in Bothell that sell >>> different kinds of scones. >> >>I don't usually shop in Bothell. I know there was a tea shop at Country >>Village but it closed last month. You posted menus but there was no way >>to >>tell from that if those scones are sweet or not. > > Because they are real scones. Ergo - they are not sweet. How would you know? Did you eat one? |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On 2/26/2016 4:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-02-26 4:10 PM, jmcquown wrote: >> On 2/26/2016 3:45 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> Biscuits to serve with bacon? That's a new one to me. They are usually >>> served with sausage. >> >> Try harder, you'll sound more completely stupid. >> > > Too funny Jill. Again, ROFLMAO!!! Dang, but I need more cloths to wipe off the computer screen, hehehe! Yet another example how "expert" (cough-cough, dang, I need more hankies now, too!) and totally clueless bove actually is! Yeesh! Sky, who's still grinning ;> -- ================================ Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer! Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice! ================================ |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On 2/27/2016 7:03 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says... >> >> "cshenk" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking: >>> >>>> >>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> On 2/26/2016 3:45 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>>>> Biscuits to serve with bacon? That's a new one to me. They are >>>>>>>> usually served with sausage. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Try harder, you'll sound more completely stupid. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can honestly say that I have never eaten a combo of biscuits and >>>>>> bacon. Is this a Southern thing? >>>>> >>>>> Julie, are you sure you are American? >>>> >>>> Do they seriously eat this where you live? Here they eat bacon and >>>> eggs. There might be biscuits with it but nobody ever says they are >>>> eating bacon and biscuits. >>> >>> Julie, you have milked this silly thread to the dregs and past it. You >>> are wrong and that's that. >> >> Do you live here? Just to see if I was wrong, I looked up the place around >> the corner from here. Patty's Eggnest. A popular breakfast spot. And what >> comes with their breakfasts? Choice of toast. Yes, you can get biscuits >> but they are not listed as coming with the breakfasts. Just because >> something is common where you live, don't assume it is that way all over. > > You are such a lying faker! > > Here is Patty's Eggnest Everett; scroll down and there's a full colour > picture of "Biscuits and gravy with scrambled eggs, bacon and > hashbrowns" with the customer's review of it. > > http://www.yelp.co.uk/biz/pattys-eggnest-everett > > http://pattyseggnestrestaurant.net/breakfast-menu/ > > "Special Biscuits & Gravy $10.95 > > The epitome of Southern comfort, our very popular biscuits and gravy > comes with two thick, fluffy biscuits smothered in country sausage > pepper gravy, served with 3 fresh eggs, hashbrowns, and your choice of 2 > thick honey-cured bacon slices OR 2 hearty sausage links." > > here it is > > http://www.yelp.co.uk/biz_photos/pat...gnest-everett? > select=cSiImP1D2uhVW9kaHt_9yQ > And bove's hole keeps getting deeper ..... and DEEPER!! Dang, bove really works hard with that shovel, too! Sky -- ================================ Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer! Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice! ================================ |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On 2/27/2016 8:08 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Janet" > wrote in message > t... >> In article >, says... >>> >>> "cshenk" > wrote in message >>> ... >>> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking: >>> > >>> >> >>> >> "cshenk" > wrote in message >>> >> ... >>> >> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking: >>> >> > >>> >> > > >>> >> >>"jmcquown" > wrote in message >>> >> > > ... >>> >> >>> On 2/26/2016 3:45 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >> >>> > Biscuits to serve with bacon? That's a new one to me. They >>> are >>> >> >>> > usually served with sausage. >>> >> > > > >>> >> >>> Try harder, you'll sound more completely stupid. >>> >> > > >>> >> > > I can honestly say that I have never eaten a combo of biscuits >>> and >>> >> > > bacon. Is this a Southern thing? >>> >> > >>> >> > Julie, are you sure you are American? >>> >> >>> >> Do they seriously eat this where you live? Here they eat bacon and >>> >> eggs. There might be biscuits with it but nobody ever says they are >>> >> eating bacon and biscuits. >>> > >>> > Julie, you have milked this silly thread to the dregs and past it. >>> You >>> > are wrong and that's that. >>> >>> Do you live here? Just to see if I was wrong, I looked up the place >>> around >>> the corner from here. Patty's Eggnest. A popular breakfast spot. >>> And what >>> comes with their breakfasts? Choice of toast. Yes, you can get >>> biscuits >>> but they are not listed as coming with the breakfasts. Just because >>> something is common where you live, don't assume it is that way all >>> over. >> >> You are such a lying faker! >> >> Here is Patty's Eggnest Everett; scroll down and there's a full colour >> picture of "Biscuits and gravy with scrambled eggs, bacon and >> hashbrowns" with the customer's review of it. >> >> http://www.yelp.co.uk/biz/pattys-eggnest-everett >> >> http://pattyseggnestrestaurant.net/breakfast-menu/ >> >> "Special Biscuits & Gravy $10.95 >> >> The epitome of Southern comfort, our very popular biscuits and gravy >> comes with two thick, fluffy biscuits smothered in country sausage >> pepper gravy, served with 3 fresh eggs, hashbrowns, and your choice of 2 >> thick honey-cured bacon slices OR 2 hearty sausage links." >> >> here it is >> >> http://www.yelp.co.uk/biz_photos/pat...gnest-everett? >> select=cSiImP1D2uhVW9kaHt_9yQ >> >> >> Janet UK > > You just proved my point! Idiot! Biscuits and gravy! But if you order > one of the meals, you get a choice of toast! I can't imagine anyone > ordering biscuits and gravy along with anything else unless it were > fruit. Especially two biscuits with gravy. That alone would be quite > filling. Keep digging bove! Before too long, that hole will be so deep the woman would be unable to see daylight. Sky -- ================================ Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer! Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice! ================================ |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On 2/26/2016 9:04 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message > ... >> On 2/26/2016 6:49 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> "jinx the minx" > wrote in message >>> ... >>> >>> >>>> Cindy Hamilton > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I found a bunch of recipes for biscuits with bacon in them. I >>>>> hardly think that would have occurred to anyone had they not >>>>> been eating biscuits with bacon alongside. >>>>> >>>>> Cindy Hamilton >>>>> >>>> Even McDonald's serves a bacon, egg and cheese biscuit. >>>> >>> >>> That could be. I don't eat there. Nor do I eat restaurant breakfasts. >> >> Bacon & eggs served with a biscuit is pretty darn common all over the >> United States. I don't eat breakfast in restaurants, either. > > Not here, it's not. Bacon and eggs served with toast, English muffin or > muffin is common though. You can get biscuits but that's not what most > people eat. Newsflash and stop the presses -- Bove is The World's Expert when it regards what "most people eat"! Yikes, someone should inform the entire Planet of Earth to let everyone know!! Sky, who's often had bacon & biscuits & eggs, together or separate -- ================================ Kitchen Rule #1 - Use the timer! Kitchen Rule #2 - Cook's choice! ================================ |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 22:21:36 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > >"Jeßus" > wrote in message .. . >> On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 04:11:29 -0800, "Julie Bove" >> > wrote: >> >>>"Janet" > wrote in message >>>> Where Julie lives,how Julie cooks, what Julie knows about what scone >>>> means in Bothell or USA is completely irrelevent. >>>> >>>> There's a whole world outside Bothell and the USA where "scone" does >>>> not mean sugar filled crap made from a packet mix coated with icing. >>> >>>That could be. But if you go to any store here and buy a scone, I can >>>pretty well guarantee you that it will be sweet. >> >> Bullshit. > >Not wrong. LOL, in Australia 'not wrong' means agreement. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 12:29:55 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: >Just because >something is common where you live, don't assume it is that way all over. 'Do as I say and not as I do'. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 22:22:23 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > >"Jeßus" > wrote in message .. . >> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:24:10 -0800, "Julie Bove" >> > wrote: >> >>> >>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message ... >>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 04:53:25 -0800, "Julie Bove" >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message ... >>>>>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 19:02:48 -0500, jmcquown > >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sounds good, although I've never had these 'biscuits' I keep seeing >>>>>>> mentioned on RFC :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>What's on your menu? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Invited over to a friend's place tonight for dinner, I think it >>>>>>> involves lamb. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >>>>> >>>>>Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >>>>>fruit >>>>>in >>>>>them. >>>> >>>> Julie Julie Julie... invoking the 'Bothell factor' again? >>>> A quick search reveals that not to be the case, of course. >>>> And by that I mean there are shops specifically in Bothell that sell >>>> different kinds of scones. >>> >>>I don't usually shop in Bothell. I know there was a tea shop at Country >>>Village but it closed last month. You posted menus but there was no way >>>to >>>tell from that if those scones are sweet or not. >> >> Because they are real scones. Ergo - they are not sweet. > >How would you know? Did you eat one? Are you serious? Of course I've bloody eaten them. They are NOT supposed to be sweet. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On 27 Feb 2016 18:32:55 GMT, notbob > wrote:
> On 2016-02-27, Janet B > wrote: > > > Health food stores or co-ops ought to carry it. Probably not located > > near you though. > > Nonsense. > > I usta buy half gal cans of Southern-made (MS?) sorghum out in CA's > Central Valley. A permanent fruit stand on the western edge of > Escalon carried it, year round. Also, another fruit stand jes south > of Stockton (French Camp Rd?). That's an afternoon outing, from > Frisco. > > If sf can't find any, it's cuz she isn't looking. > I'm not traveling out to some stand in the Valley just for sorghum if that's what you're trying to say. -- sf |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 13:32:56 -0800 (PST), wrote:
> On Saturday, 27 February 2016 17:57:42 UTC, sf wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 08:15:09 -0800 (PST), wrote: > > > > > On Saturday, 27 February 2016 08:58:48 UTC, sf wrote: > > > > On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 19:41:07 -0800 (PST), wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Friday, 26 February 2016 18:44:29 UTC, sf wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 01:23:20 -0800 (PST), wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I googled scone recipes and the top 9 hits all contain sugar. That surprised me. Suffice it to say, if you don't want sweet sone don't use sugar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I Googled Buttermilk Scones and that wasn't the case, so Google has > > > > > > probably learned that you search for sweet recipes. > > > > > > > > > > > ...or maybe its just the particular recipe you googled. I don't google recipes very > > > > > often (I have a lot of cookery books), but when I do they're usually savoury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You sound like Julie. You say you Googled, I Googled and then you say > > > > you don't Google. What's obvious is you don't know how Google works. > > > > <shrug> > > > > > > > You need to get yourself a pair of reading glasses. I said "I don't google recipes very often". > > > > > Make up your mind. If you Google recipes, then Google has learned > > what you look for. > > > This is not about me making up my mind so much as its you shit stirring. > > Since I'm diabetic and live on my own recipes I google are usually savoury. It's a rare thing for me to look up anything sweet. > > Like I said before. MY Google didn't kick up sweet recipes. -- sf |
My Grandmother's Scone Recipe (WAS: What's for Dinner? (2/23/16))
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 21:04:02 -0500, Doris Night
> wrote: > On 27 Feb 2016 18:07:28 GMT, notbob > wrote: > > >On 2016-02-27, Janet > wrote: > > > >> Stand back folks; make a space. Here comes another big one. > > > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti_Red > > But wiki says there is spaghetti in spaghetti red. Julie said her > spaghetti red didn't have spaghetti in it. I wondered how she made it. > It goes *on* spaghetti, there's no spaghetti *in* it. -- sf |
My Grandmother's Scone Recipe (WAS: What's for Dinner? (2/23/16))
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:30:15 -0700, Janet B >
wrote: > that's a new one on me. I never saw or heard of such a dish back > there. I've always known spaghetti red as the red sauce itself. I > don't think that mid-westerners as a whole are as bad culinarily as > they have come to be portrayed. > Janet US I first heard about Cincinnati Chili and hot dish here in RFC too. In fact, I still don't hear about them anywhere but here. -- sf |
My Grandmother's Scone Recipe (WAS: What's for Dinner? (2/23/16))
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 12:18:18 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote: > On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 8:08:06 AM UTC-10, sf wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 09:52:09 -0500, Doris Night > > > wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 03:34:32 -0800, "Julie Bove" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >Yep. My mom and grandma both made Spaghetti Red and now I make it on > > > >occasion. And yet there is no spaghetti in it. > > > > > > What is in Spaghetti Red? > > > > > > > This is from Chowhound: > > > > I am from the midwest and Spaghetti Red is a common favorite. It is > > spaghetti covered in a greasy chili, served with hamburger pickle > > slice, onion slices, crackers and sometimes mustard if you like. The > > following recipe is just like the chili served at my favorite place > > that had the BEST Spaghetti Red I have ever had. > > > > 3 pounds of the highest fat content ground beef you can find. > > (Ground Chuck will NOT work! And if you plan to try making this recipe > > with "healthier" stuff, please stop now!) > > > > 1.5 packages of Williams Chili Seasoning (or approximately 1/2 cup). > > > > 1.5 teaspoon garlic salt > > > > 1.5 teaspoon of ground cumin > > > > 1 tube (1/4 of a box) of crushed saltine crackers. > > > > Brown the hamburger meat and add the chili seasoning, garlic salt and > > cumin and simmer for 15 minutes. DO NOT DRAIN OFF THE FAT!!!! > > > > Add the tube of crushed saltine crackers and one quart( I used 3 cups > > water) of water to the simmering meat and spices. Mix well together > > and simmer for 1 hour. Add extra salt if needed. > > > > Simmering time is very important, so do not rush it! > > > > Serve on top of cooked spaghetti noodles, would be awesome on top of > > hot dogs also. > > > > -- > > > > sf > > I'd eat that - I'm hungry! I've never heard of it either but I've not heard of many things so that doesn't make it an automatic disqualification. :) I'd be tempted to drain the fat. Can't imagine why it's so critical to the recipe. -- sf |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
"Jeßus" > wrote in message ... > On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 22:21:36 -0800, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >> >>"Jeßus" > wrote in message . .. >>> On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 04:11:29 -0800, "Julie Bove" >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>"Janet" > wrote in message >>>>> Where Julie lives,how Julie cooks, what Julie knows about what scone >>>>> means in Bothell or USA is completely irrelevent. >>>>> >>>>> There's a whole world outside Bothell and the USA where "scone" does >>>>> not mean sugar filled crap made from a packet mix coated with icing. >>>> >>>>That could be. But if you go to any store here and buy a scone, I can >>>>pretty well guarantee you that it will be sweet. >>> >>> Bullshit. >> >>Not wrong. > > > LOL, in Australia 'not wrong' means agreement. It means I am not wrong. You put up links to two tea shops, one of which is now closed. Neither of which is known for having good food or service. I can't speak for their scones as I would not go there. But I assure you if you buy a scone in a store here, it will be sweet. I have bought them and recently. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
"Jeßus" > wrote in message ... > On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 22:22:23 -0800, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >> >>"Jeßus" > wrote in message . .. >>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:24:10 -0800, "Julie Bove" >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"Jeßus" > wrote in message m... >>>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 04:53:25 -0800, "Julie Bove" >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message ... >>>>>>> "Jeßus" > wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 19:02:48 -0500, jmcquown >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sounds good, although I've never had these 'biscuits' I keep seeing >>>>>>>> mentioned on RFC :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>What's on your menu? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Invited over to a friend's place tonight for dinner, I think it >>>>>>>> involves lamb. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >>>>>> >>>>>>Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >>>>>>fruit >>>>>>in >>>>>>them. >>>>> >>>>> Julie Julie Julie... invoking the 'Bothell factor' again? >>>>> A quick search reveals that not to be the case, of course. >>>>> And by that I mean there are shops specifically in Bothell that sell >>>>> different kinds of scones. >>>> >>>>I don't usually shop in Bothell. I know there was a tea shop at Country >>>>Village but it closed last month. You posted menus but there was no way >>>>to >>>>tell from that if those scones are sweet or not. >>> >>> Because they are real scones. Ergo - they are not sweet. >> >>How would you know? Did you eat one? > > Are you serious? Of course I've bloody eaten them. > They are NOT supposed to be sweet. So you went to a tea shop in Bothell and bought a scone? I doubt it. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 4:37:26 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking: > > > > > "cshenk" > wrote in message > > ... > > > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking: > > > > > > > > > >>"cshenk" > wrote in message > > > > ... > > >>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking: > > > > > > > >>> > > > >>>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message > > >>> > ... > > >>>>> On 2/26/2016 3:45 PM, Julie Bove wrote: > > >>>>> > Biscuits to serve with bacon? That's a new one to me. They > > are >>>>> > usually served with sausage. > > >>> > > > > >>>>> Try harder, you'll sound more completely stupid. > > >>> > > > >>> > I can honestly say that I have never eaten a combo of biscuits > > and >>> > bacon. Is this a Southern thing? > > > > > > > >>> Julie, are you sure you are American? > > > > > > > > Do they seriously eat this where you live? Here they eat bacon > > > > and eggs. There might be biscuits with it but nobody ever says > > > > they are eating bacon and biscuits. > > > > > > Julie, you have milked this silly thread to the dregs and past it. > > > You are wrong and that's that. > > > > Do you live here? Just to see if I was wrong, I looked up the place > > around the corner from here. Patty's Eggnest. A popular breakfast > > spot. And what comes with their breakfasts? Choice of toast. Yes, > > you can get biscuits but they are not listed as coming with the > > breakfasts. Just because something is common where you live, don't > > assume it is that way all over. > > Get OVER IT Julie. You live in a microcosm of the USA and an unusual > one from what you say. > > The rest of the world is well familiar with biscuits (though overseas > they may have another name and biscuits can mean a hard cracker or > cookie). You seem to be the only one who can't grasp the word biscuits > combined with bacon (and normally egg and cheese added). I laughed myself sick when Julie said, "Just because something is common where you live, don't assume it is that way all over." Cindy Hamilton |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 12:33:53 AM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 04:11:29 -0800, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > > >"Janet" > wrote in message > >> Where Julie lives,how Julie cooks, what Julie knows about what scone > >> means in Bothell or USA is completely irrelevent. > >> > >> There's a whole world outside Bothell and the USA where "scone" does > >> not mean sugar filled crap made from a packet mix coated with icing. > > > >That could be. But if you go to any store here and buy a scone, I can > >pretty well guarantee you that it will be sweet. > > Bullshit. Actually, I believe her. Savory scones are pretty rare in the U.S., especially if you're buying them at a store. I can get cheddar herb scones at a local bakery, but most commercially made scones in the U.S. are sweet. Here's a sad, sad, exemplar: <http://www.starbucks.com/menu/food/bakery/petite-vanilla-bean-scone> Starbucks might sell more scones than any other company in the U.S., and they're all sweet. Cindy Hamilton |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 2:55:25 AM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 22:22:23 -0800, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >How would you know? Did you eat one? > > Are you serious? Of course I've bloody eaten them. I believe she was asking rhetorically if you'd eaten scones from the tea shop in Bothell that closed. > They are NOT supposed to be sweet. Yet, sadly, in the U.S. purchased scones almost always are. Almost. Cindy Hamilton |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 5:59:02 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking: > > > > > "jmcquown" > wrote in message > > ... > > > On 2/26/2016 3:45 PM, Julie Bove wrote: > > > > Biscuits to serve with bacon? That's a new one to me. They are > > > > usually served with sausage. > > > > > > Try harder, you'll sound more completely stupid. > > > > I can honestly say that I have never eaten a combo of biscuits and > > bacon. Is this a Southern thing? > > Julie, are you sure you are American? > Folks cut biscuits in half and make sausage sandwiches. Bacon is better eaten on the side. Biscuits are too crumbly to work with bacon that is not overcooked. > --Bryan |
My Grandmother's Scone Recipe (WAS: What's for Dinner?(2/23/16))
On 2/28/2016 3:11 AM, sf wrote:
> I first heard about Cincinnati Chili and hot dish here in RFC too. > In fact, I still don't hear about them anywhere but here. There are a lot of things I've only heard of here or on tv. Cincinnati chili I've seen on tv. No offense to any fans, I don't want it in any of the Ways. nancy |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
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> > "Janet" > wrote in message > t... > > In article >, says... > >> > >> "cshenk" > wrote in message > >> ... > >> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking: > >> > > >> >> > >> >> "cshenk" > wrote in message > >> >> ... > >> >> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking: > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> >>"jmcquown" > wrote in message > >> >> > > ... > >> >> >>> On 2/26/2016 3:45 PM, Julie Bove wrote: > >> >> >>> > Biscuits to serve with bacon? That's a new one to me. They are > >> >> >>> > usually served with sausage. > >> >> > > > > >> >> >>> Try harder, you'll sound more completely stupid. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > I can honestly say that I have never eaten a combo of biscuits and > >> >> > > bacon. Is this a Southern thing? > >> >> > > >> >> > Julie, are you sure you are American? > >> >> > >> >> Do they seriously eat this where you live? Here they eat bacon and > >> >> eggs. There might be biscuits with it but nobody ever says they are > >> >> eating bacon and biscuits. > >> > > >> > Julie, you have milked this silly thread to the dregs and past it. You > >> > are wrong and that's that. > >> > >> Do you live here? Just to see if I was wrong, I looked up the place > >> around > >> the corner from here. Patty's Eggnest. A popular breakfast spot. And > >> what > >> comes with their breakfasts? Choice of toast. Yes, you can get biscuits > >> but they are not listed as coming with the breakfasts. Just because > >> something is common where you live, don't assume it is that way all over. > > > > You are such a lying faker! > > > > Here is Patty's Eggnest Everett; scroll down and there's a full colour > > picture of "Biscuits and gravy with scrambled eggs, bacon and > > hashbrowns" with the customer's review of it. > > > > http://www.yelp.co.uk/biz/pattys-eggnest-everett > > > > http://pattyseggnestrestaurant.net/breakfast-menu/ > > > > "Special Biscuits & Gravy $10.95 > > > > The epitome of Southern comfort, our very popular biscuits and gravy > > comes with two thick, fluffy biscuits smothered in country sausage > > pepper gravy, served with 3 fresh eggs, hashbrowns, and your choice of 2 > > thick honey-cured bacon slices OR 2 hearty sausage links." > > > > here it is > > > > http://www.yelp.co.uk/biz_photos/pat...gnest-everett? > > select=cSiImP1D2uhVW9kaHt_9yQ > > > > > > Janet UK > > You just proved my point! Idiot! Biscuits and gravy! I have just proved you LIED when you said " Yes, you can get biscuits >> but they are not listed as coming with the breakfasts" It's right there on the menu. Janet. |
My Grandmother's Scone Recipe (WAS: What's for Dinner? (2/23/16))
On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 8:55:49 AM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 2/28/2016 3:11 AM, sf wrote: > > > I first heard about Cincinnati Chili and hot dish here in RFC too. > > In fact, I still don't hear about them anywhere but here. I would expect only those in Cinncinnati and Minnesota (respectively) to hear about them. We have casseroles, but we don't call it hot dish. > There are a lot of things I've only heard of here or on tv. > > Cincinnati chili I've seen on tv. No offense to any fans, > I don't want it in any of the Ways. I'm with you. DH hails from Cincinnati. I once went into a Skyline chili, and couldn't stay. The smell was atrocious. Luckily, DH doesn't like true Cincinnati chili, either, but he does like chili on spaghetti. I can live with that. I tried it that way, but I prefer my chili in a bowl. Cindy Hamilton |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 04:57:56 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 12:33:53 AM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote: >> On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 04:11:29 -0800, "Julie Bove" >> > wrote: >> >> >"Janet" > wrote in message >> >> Where Julie lives,how Julie cooks, what Julie knows about what scone >> >> means in Bothell or USA is completely irrelevent. >> >> >> >> There's a whole world outside Bothell and the USA where "scone" does >> >> not mean sugar filled crap made from a packet mix coated with icing. >> > >> >That could be. But if you go to any store here and buy a scone, I can >> >pretty well guarantee you that it will be sweet. >> >> Bullshit. > >Actually, I believe her. Savory scones are pretty rare in the U.S., >especially if you're buying them at a store. I can get cheddar >herb scones at a local bakery, but most commercially made scones >in the U.S. are sweet. > >Here's a sad, sad, exemplar: > ><http://www.starbucks.com/menu/food/bakery/petite-vanilla-bean-scone> > >Starbucks might sell more scones than any other company in the U.S., >and they're all sweet. "A scone is a single-serving cake or quick bread. They are usually made of wheat, barley or oatmeal, with baking powder as a leavening agent, and are baked on sheet pans. They are often lightly sweetened and are occasionally glazed with egg wash.[1] The scone is a basic component of the cream tea or Devonshire tea. It differs from a teacake and other sweet buns, which are made with yeast." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scone "often lightly sweetened": I guess everybody's a bit right. -- Bruce |
My Grandmother's Scone Recipe (WAS: What's for Dinner?(2/23/16))
On 2/28/2016 10:03 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 8:55:49 AM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote: >> Cincinnati chili I've seen on tv. No offense to any fans, >> I don't want it in any of the Ways. > > I'm with you. DH hails from Cincinnati. I once went into a > Skyline chili, and couldn't stay. The smell was atrocious. I didn't expect that. > Luckily, DH doesn't like true Cincinnati chili, either, but > he does like chili on spaghetti. I can live with that. That's pretty innocuous, I guess, seems wrong to me but really, why not. > I tried it that way, but I prefer my chili in a bowl. Ditto. nancy |
My Grandmother's Scone Recipe (WAS: What's for Dinner? (2/23/16))
On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 10:11:53 PM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:30:15 -0700, Janet B > > wrote: > > > that's a new one on me. I never saw or heard of such a dish back > > there. I've always known spaghetti red as the red sauce itself. I > > don't think that mid-westerners as a whole are as bad culinarily as > > they have come to be portrayed. > > Janet US > > I first heard about Cincinnati Chili and hot dish here in RFC too. > In fact, I still don't hear about them anywhere but here. > > -- > > sf We are quite familiar with Cincinnati style chili on this rock. It's probably the most popular chili in Hawaii and served at Zippy's restaurants. Rumor has it that there's mayo in the recipe - that's a very Filipino thing to do. Speaking of which, I bought a bag of Filipino style spaghetti sauce. I have yet to open the bag but I was talking to some folks yesterday and asked the Filipino guy next to me what the heck is Filipino spaghetti sauce. He said it's ketchup. He said I should go to Jollibee to see what it's all about. http://tastyislandhawaii.com/2011/06...ee-in-waipahu/ |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 04:36:19 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 04:57:56 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton > wrote: > >>On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 12:33:53 AM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote: >>> On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 04:11:29 -0800, "Julie Bove" >>> > wrote: >>> >>> >"Janet" > wrote in message >>> >> Where Julie lives,how Julie cooks, what Julie knows about what scone >>> >> means in Bothell or USA is completely irrelevent. >>> >> >>> >> There's a whole world outside Bothell and the USA where "scone" does >>> >> not mean sugar filled crap made from a packet mix coated with icing. >>> > >>> >That could be. But if you go to any store here and buy a scone, I can >>> >pretty well guarantee you that it will be sweet. >>> >>> Bullshit. >> >>Actually, I believe her. Savory scones are pretty rare in the U.S., >>especially if you're buying them at a store. I can get cheddar >>herb scones at a local bakery, but most commercially made scones >>in the U.S. are sweet. >> >>Here's a sad, sad, exemplar: >> >><http://www.starbucks.com/menu/food/bakery/petite-vanilla-bean-scone> >> >>Starbucks might sell more scones than any other company in the U.S., >>and they're all sweet. > >"A scone is a single-serving cake or quick bread. They are usually >made of wheat, barley or oatmeal, with baking powder as a leavening >agent, and are baked on sheet pans. They are often lightly sweetened >and are occasionally glazed with egg wash.[1] The scone is a basic >component of the cream tea or Devonshire tea. It differs from a >teacake and other sweet buns, which are made with yeast." >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scone > >"often lightly sweetened": I guess everybody's a bit right. All a matter of degree I guess. I don't want to detect any sweetness in a scone, that much I do know. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 07:10:13 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 04:36:19 +1100, Bruce > wrote: > >>On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 04:57:56 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton > wrote: >> >>>Actually, I believe her. Savory scones are pretty rare in the U.S., >>>especially if you're buying them at a store. I can get cheddar >>>herb scones at a local bakery, but most commercially made scones >>>in the U.S. are sweet. >>> >>>Here's a sad, sad, exemplar: >>> >>><http://www.starbucks.com/menu/food/bakery/petite-vanilla-bean-scone> >>> >>>Starbucks might sell more scones than any other company in the U.S., >>>and they're all sweet. >> >>"A scone is a single-serving cake or quick bread. They are usually >>made of wheat, barley or oatmeal, with baking powder as a leavening >>agent, and are baked on sheet pans. They are often lightly sweetened >>and are occasionally glazed with egg wash.[1] The scone is a basic >>component of the cream tea or Devonshire tea. It differs from a >>teacake and other sweet buns, which are made with yeast." >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scone >> >>"often lightly sweetened": I guess everybody's a bit right. > >All a matter of degree I guess. I don't want to detect any sweetness >in a scone, that much I do know. I don't think I ever had one. -- Bruce |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 04:57:56 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 12:33:53 AM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote: >> On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 04:11:29 -0800, "Julie Bove" >> > wrote: >> >> >"Janet" > wrote in message >> >> Where Julie lives,how Julie cooks, what Julie knows about what scone >> >> means in Bothell or USA is completely irrelevent. >> >> >> >> There's a whole world outside Bothell and the USA where "scone" does >> >> not mean sugar filled crap made from a packet mix coated with icing. >> > >> >That could be. But if you go to any store here and buy a scone, I can >> >pretty well guarantee you that it will be sweet. >> >> Bullshit. > >Actually, I believe her. Savory scones are pretty rare in the U.S., >especially if you're buying them at a store. I can get cheddar >herb scones at a local bakery, but most commercially made scones >in the U.S. are sweet. Oh. I had not even considered commercially made scones. What an abominable concept. Scones have to be freshly made, I've never ever seen commercially made scones in Australia. AFAIAC, they're not scones. >Here's a sad, sad, exemplar: > ><http://www.starbucks.com/menu/food/bakery/petite-vanilla-bean-scone> > >Starbucks might sell more scones than any other company in the U.S., >and they're all sweet. " Ingredients enriched unbleached wheat flour (wheat flour, malted barley flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), vanilla bean glaze (sugar, water, fructose, contains 2% or less of the following: corn syrup, gum arabic, honey, potassium sorbate (preservative), agar, vanilla bean seeds, citric acid, pectin, natural flavor, mono and diglycerides, locust bean gum), water, heavy cream, carrageenan, sugar, unsalted butter, whole eggs, soybean oil, baking powder (sodium acid pyrophosphate, sodium bicarbonate, cornstarch, monocalcium phosphate), nonfat dry milk, soy lecithin, invert syrup, natural vanilla flavor (vanilla bean, maltodextrin), salt, vanilla bean seeds, xanthan gum. contains: wheat, egg, milk, soy." Barf :( |
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