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What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On 2016-02-25 9:05 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >> fruit in them. > > Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My > grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained > fruit. Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. We often had scones when I was a kid. Sometimes they were plain and sometimes they had currants or raisins in them. They were usually eaten with butter and jam. Scones seemed to have experienced a retail revival and are commonly available on coffee shops, but they are much sweeter than I am used to and usually have some sort of a glace or icing on top. They are also tiny. There is a seasonal tea house on the next road over from us and one of their items is scones with clotted cream and jam. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 15:45:33 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote: >Scones seemed to have experienced a retail revival >and are commonly available on coffee shops, but they are much sweeter >than I am used to and usually have some sort of a glace or icing on top. Eww. Why in the hell would anyone do that?? > They are also tiny. There is a seasonal tea house on the next road >over from us and one of their items is scones with clotted cream and jam. That sounds much more like it. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On 2016-02-25 12:54 PM, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:05:22 -0500, jmcquown > > wrote: > >> On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> >>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >>> >>> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >>> fruit in them. >> >> Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My >> grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained >> fruit. Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. >> > Your grandmother was Scottish and called biscuits scones. > Mine was English, and she called them scones.... rhyming with "on (s)". |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On 25/02/2016 3:13 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-02-25 12:54 PM, sf wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:05:22 -0500, jmcquown > >> wrote: >> >>> On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>> >>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >>>> >>>> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >>>> fruit in them. >>> >>> Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My >>> grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained >>> fruit. Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. >>> >> Your grandmother was Scottish and called biscuits scones. >> > > Mine was English, and she called them scones.... rhyming with "on (s)". > As did everyone in my village. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On 2016-02-25 4:06 PM, Je嚙線s wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 15:45:33 -0500, Dave Smith > > wrote: > >> Scones seemed to have experienced a retail revival >> and are commonly available on coffee shops, but they are much sweeter >> than I am used to and usually have some sort of a glace or icing on top. > > Eww. Why in the hell would anyone do that?? Beats me. I suppose that it is a way to extend the shelf life. Cover it with something sweet and it will hold in the moisture and you won't nice how dry the rest of it has become. My grandmothers and my mother made scones frequently and they were always eaten fresh out of the oven and they were usually all eaten. Scones and biscuits are made to be eaten fresh and do not keep well. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On 2/25/2016 3:45 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-02-25 9:05 AM, jmcquown wrote: >> On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: > >>> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >>> fruit in them. >> >> Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My >> grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained >> fruit. Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. > > We often had scones when I was a kid. Sometimes they were plain and > sometimes they had currants or raisins in them. They were usually eaten > with butter and jam. Scones seemed to have experienced a retail revival > and are commonly available on coffee shops, but they are much sweeter > than I am used to and usually have some sort of a glace or icing on top. > They are also tiny. There is a seasonal tea house on the next road > over from us and one of their items is scones with clotted cream and jam. > I don't know about coffee house scones. I know my grandmother made them and they were more like US biscuits than anything else I could describe to someone who lives in Australia. She made them using cream of tartar. They were not sweet, they didn't contain currants or raisins. She shaped them into triangles and baked them on a cast iron griddle. I still have that griddle. :) Jill |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >> ... >>> >>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >> >> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >> fruit in them. > > Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My > grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained fruit. > Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. Maybe that's what she called them. But any recipes I've ever seen for them contain sugar. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > On 2/25/2016 12:54 PM, sf wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:05:22 -0500, jmcquown > >> wrote: >> >>> On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>> >>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >>>> >>>> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >>>> fruit in them. >>> >>> Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My >>> grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained >>> fruit. Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. >>> >> Your grandmother was Scottish and called biscuits scones. >> > She was Scottish but she made triangular shaped rolled scones. She never > called them biscuits. You missed the point. These are the famous scones in this state: http://fisherscones.com/ They are very sweet. I can't personally see the appeal but people go to the fair just to get them. I tried one once. Far too sweet for my liking. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
"Je腜s" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:05:22 -0500, jmcquown > > wrote: > >>On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> >>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >>> >>> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >>> fruit in them. >> >>Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. > > Julie is wrong about Bothell itself, too: > http://www.villageeateryandteacompany.com/menu.html > http://elizabethandalexander.com/menu/ What was I wrong about? I never said that we had no tea shops. I don't go to them. I don't even go into Bothell proper. No need to. I do know that whatever tea shop that was at Country Village is now closed. Not sure what the name of it was. Are you trying to say that the scones served at those tea shops are not sweet? I see a cheese one listed. Also plain and lemon. But to me, a plain scone is sweet a it has sugar in it. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
"Dave Smith" > wrote in message ... > On 2016-02-25 4:06 PM, Je嚙線s wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 15:45:33 -0500, Dave Smith >> > wrote: >> >>> Scones seemed to have experienced a retail revival >>> and are commonly available on coffee shops, but they are much sweeter >>> than I am used to and usually have some sort of a glace or icing on top. >> >> Eww. Why in the hell would anyone do that?? > > Beats me. I suppose that it is a way to extend the shelf life. Cover it > with something sweet and it will hold in the moisture and you won't nice > how dry the rest of it has become. My grandmothers and my mother made > scones frequently and they were always eaten fresh out of the oven and > they were usually all eaten. Scones and biscuits are made to be eaten > fresh and do not keep well. > > |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
"Dave Smith" > wrote in message ... > On 2016-02-25 4:06 PM, Je嚙線s wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 15:45:33 -0500, Dave Smith >> > wrote: >> >>> Scones seemed to have experienced a retail revival >>> and are commonly available on coffee shops, but they are much sweeter >>> than I am used to and usually have some sort of a glace or icing on top. >> >> Eww. Why in the hell would anyone do that?? > > Beats me. I suppose that it is a way to extend the shelf life. Cover it > with something sweet and it will hold in the moisture and you won't nice > how dry the rest of it has become. My grandmothers and my mother made > scones frequently and they were always eaten fresh out of the oven and > they were usually all eaten. Scones and biscuits are made to be eaten > fresh and do not keep well. Oops. Sent blank reply. The store I am headed to sells huge scones with fruit in them and they are dipped in a thick glaze. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
"Je腜s" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 04:53:25 -0800, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >>"Ophelia" > wrote in message ... >>> "Je腜s" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 19:02:48 -0500, jmcquown > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Sounds good, although I've never had these 'biscuits' I keep seeing >>>> mentioned on RFC :) >>>> >>>>>What's on your menu? >>>> >>>> Invited over to a friend's place tonight for dinner, I think it >>>> involves lamb. >>> >>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >> >>Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have fruit >>in >>them. > > Julie Julie Julie... invoking the 'Bothell factor' again? > A quick search reveals that not to be the case, of course. > And by that I mean there are shops specifically in Bothell that sell > different kinds of scones. I don't usually shop in Bothell. I know there was a tea shop at Country Village but it closed last month. You posted menus but there was no way to tell from that if those scones are sweet or not. One mentioned plain. If you get a Fisher Scone, it is sweet even if plain. Here's a recipe to make them. http://www.food.com/recipe/puyallup-...-scones-183806 |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On 2/25/2016 7:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message > ... >> On 2/25/2016 12:54 PM, sf wrote: >>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:05:22 -0500, jmcquown > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >>>>> >>>>> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >>>>> fruit in them. >>>> >>>> Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My >>>> grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained >>>> fruit. Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. >>>> >>> Your grandmother was Scottish and called biscuits scones. >>> >> She was Scottish but she made triangular shaped rolled scones. She >> never called them biscuits. > > You missed the point. > No, you did. > These are the famous scones in this state: > > http://fisherscones.com/ > > They are very sweet. I can't personally see the appeal but people go to > the fair just to get them. I tried one once. Far too sweet for my liking. Uh huh. Where you live is not indicative of the rest of this huge country. Jill |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On 2/25/2016 3:34 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >> ... >>> >>> >>> "Je腜s" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 19:02:48 -0500, jmcquown > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm using up some cooked chicken I made a couple of months ago. I put >>>>> the leftover cooked chicken in a freezer container, marked the date >>>>> and >>>>> froze it. Looking for something to make for dinner, this dinner >>>>> popped >>>>> into my head. I let the chicken thaw overnight in the fridge. >>>>> >>>>> My mother made this throught our childhood years and into our >>>>> teens. We >>>>> called it "Chicken on a Biscuit". :) >>>>> >>>>> It's basically creamed chicken spooned over hot biscuits. >>>>> >>>>> I was never really a fan of chicken but I always loved this simple >>>>> meal. >>>>> It takes me back. Mom never made chicken with dumplings. This was >>>>> her sort of equivalent. >>>>> >>>>> It's basically chicken pieces on the bone (she always used skin-on and >>>>> bone-in - I don't recall skinless boneless chicken being a big thing >>>>> when I was a kid or a teenager) cooked in just enough water to cover. >>>>> Seasoned with salt, pepper, a bay leaf. Simmer and cook it down to >>>>> make >>>>> a nice broth. >>>>> >>>>> The chicken is removed, deboned, the meat torn into pieces and added >>>>> back to the pot of broth. Make a double batch of heavy white sauce >>>>> and >>>>> add it to the pot. Stir and let cook for a bit. Occasionally it >>>>> needed >>>>> a cornstarch slurry to thicken it a bit. Spoon the creamed chicken >>>>> over >>>>> biscuits. (I use an old Betty Crocker recipe for drop biscuits; in my >>>>> teen years Mom used Bisquik.) It's a hearty, filling meal and for >>>>> something so easy to make, quite tasty! >>>> >>>> Sounds good, although I've never had these 'biscuits' I keep seeing >>>> mentioned on RFC :) >>>> >>>>> What's on your menu? >>>> >>>> Invited over to a friend's place tonight for dinner, I think it >>>> involves lamb. >>> >>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >> >> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have fruit >> in them. > > Yes, I know. I was asking Jebus who is in Australia. > > Scones here are biscuits made with butter and cream or buttermilk. They are fancier than their cousins made from shortening and milk. Biscuits are frequently found swimming in a pool of gravy - something a scone would never be caught dead in. Some people like to make their scones in a round but I'd never do that because it might be mistaken for a plain, ordinary, biscuit. That would be a shame. From a cultural, sociological, standpoint. Scones are viewed as an upper-crust kind of food. You'd find biscuits and gravy at a Denny's or a KFC - they are not hip. Scones, OTOH, are trending and you'll find them at Starbucks and afternoon teas. They reek of the good life. Not bad - for a biscuit! :) |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On 2/25/2016 7:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Dave Smith" > wrote in message > ... >> On 2016-02-25 4:06 PM, Je嚙線s wrote: >>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 15:45:33 -0500, Dave Smith >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Scones seemed to have experienced a retail revival >>>> and are commonly available on coffee shops, but they are much sweeter >>>> than I am used to and usually have some sort of a glace or icing on >>>> top. >>> >>> Eww. Why in the hell would anyone do that?? >> >> Beats me. I suppose that it is a way to extend the shelf life. Cover >> it with something sweet and it will hold in the moisture and you won't >> nice how dry the rest of it has become. My grandmothers and my mother >> made scones frequently and they were always eaten fresh out of the >> oven and they were usually all eaten. Scones and biscuits are made to >> be eaten fresh and do not keep well. > > Oops. Sent blank reply. The store I am headed to sells huge scones > with fruit in them and they are dipped in a thick glaze. I'm sure you could find a case of them online. Then they'll be moldy or otherwise distasteful, as all of your shopping experiences tend to be. When are you going to learn where you live is not indicative of the entire country? Jill |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > On 2/25/2016 7:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On 2/25/2016 12:54 PM, sf wrote: >>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:05:22 -0500, jmcquown > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >>>>>> fruit in them. >>>>> >>>>> Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My >>>>> grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained >>>>> fruit. Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. >>>>> >>>> Your grandmother was Scottish and called biscuits scones. >>>> >>> She was Scottish but she made triangular shaped rolled scones. She >>> never called them biscuits. >> >> You missed the point. >> > No, you did. > >> These are the famous scones in this state: >> >> http://fisherscones.com/ >> >> They are very sweet. I can't personally see the appeal but people go to >> the fair just to get them. I tried one once. Far too sweet for my >> liking. > > Uh huh. Where you live is not indicative of the rest of this huge > country. I'd have you do a search of recipes but... I'll do it for ya. I looked earlier today and all are sweet. Here. Knock yourself out! http://allrecipes.com/recipe/79470/simple-scones/ http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/a...es-recipe.html http://www.food.com/recipe/simple-sweet-scones-66409 Okay, this one does have savory variations. http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/best-ever-scones http://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/blueberry-scones And people here ought to love this as it used King Arthur flour: http://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/scones-recipe And here's a UK recipe. Calls for caster sugar. http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/4...-clotted-cream Here's a Scottish recipe and oops! It's sweet. http://allrecipes.com/recipe/6906/scottish-oat-scones/ And here's another. Oops! Brown sugar. http://www.pillsbury.com/recipes/sco...4-9dcfe7d0802f Gee Jill... Perhaps you should start writing to all these people who devised these recipes and tell them they are wrong! |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > On 2/25/2016 7:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On 2016-02-25 4:06 PM, Je嚙線s wrote: >>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 15:45:33 -0500, Dave Smith >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Scones seemed to have experienced a retail revival >>>>> and are commonly available on coffee shops, but they are much sweeter >>>>> than I am used to and usually have some sort of a glace or icing on >>>>> top. >>>> >>>> Eww. Why in the hell would anyone do that?? >>> >>> Beats me. I suppose that it is a way to extend the shelf life. Cover >>> it with something sweet and it will hold in the moisture and you won't >>> nice how dry the rest of it has become. My grandmothers and my mother >>> made scones frequently and they were always eaten fresh out of the >>> oven and they were usually all eaten. Scones and biscuits are made to >>> be eaten fresh and do not keep well. >> >> Oops. Sent blank reply. The store I am headed to sells huge scones >> with fruit in them and they are dipped in a thick glaze. > > I'm sure you could find a case of them online. Then they'll be moldy or > otherwise distasteful, as all of your shopping experiences tend to be. > > When are you going to learn where you live is not indicative of the entire > country? I never said that it was. But I have also lived in CA, NY, PA, MA and KS. All had the same kind of scones. And I posted a bunch of recipes for ya. Get to writing Jill. Tell all these people they are wrong! |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Friday, 26 February 2016 00:07:36 UTC, Julie Bove wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message > ... > > On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: > >> > >> "Ophelia" > wrote in message > >> ... > >>> > >>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. > >> > >> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have > >> fruit in them. > > > > Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My > > grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained fruit. > > Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. > > Maybe that's what she called them. But any recipes I've ever seen for them > contain sugar. At home I was always taught to make plain scones without sugar because we ate them with butter and jam or to make savoury scones using grated cheese in the mix. So I googled scone recipes and the top 9 hits all contain sugar. That surprised me. Suffice it to say, if you don't want sweet sone don't use sugar. Cherry |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
> wrote in message ... > On Friday, 26 February 2016 00:07:36 UTC, Julie Bove wrote: >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >> ... >> > On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> >> >> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >> >> ... >> >>> >> >>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >> >> >> >> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >> >> fruit in them. >> > >> > Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My >> > grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained >> > fruit. >> > Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. >> >> Maybe that's what she called them. But any recipes I've ever seen for >> them >> contain sugar. > > At home I was always taught to make plain scones without sugar because we > ate them with butter and jam or to make savoury scones using grated cheese > in the mix. > > So I googled scone recipes and the top 9 hits all contain sugar. That > surprised me. Suffice it to say, if you don't want sweet sone don't use > sugar. > > Cherry I just plain don't want scones. Do not like them at all. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
"graham" > wrote in message ... > On 25/02/2016 3:13 PM, Dave Smith wrote: >> On 2016-02-25 12:54 PM, sf wrote: >>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:05:22 -0500, jmcquown > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >>>>> >>>>> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >>>>> fruit in them. >>>> >>>> Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My >>>> grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained >>>> fruit. Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. >>>> >>> Your grandmother was Scottish and called biscuits scones. >>> >> >> Mine was English, and she called them scones.... rhyming with "on (s)". >> > As did everyone in my village. .... and mine. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
"Julie Bove" > wrote in message ... > > "jmcquown" > wrote in message > ... >> On 2/25/2016 7:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On 2/25/2016 12:54 PM, sf wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:05:22 -0500, jmcquown > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >>>>>>> fruit in them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My >>>>>> grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained >>>>>> fruit. Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. >>>>>> >>>>> Your grandmother was Scottish and called biscuits scones. >>>>> >>>> She was Scottish but she made triangular shaped rolled scones. She >>>> never called them biscuits. >>> >>> You missed the point. >>> >> No, you did. >> >>> These are the famous scones in this state: >>> >>> http://fisherscones.com/ >>> >>> They are very sweet. I can't personally see the appeal but people go to >>> the fair just to get them. I tried one once. Far too sweet for my >>> liking. >> >> Uh huh. Where you live is not indicative of the rest of this huge >> country. > > I'd have you do a search of recipes but... I'll do it for ya. I looked > earlier today and all are sweet. Here. Knock yourself out! > > http://allrecipes.com/recipe/79470/simple-scones/ > > http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/a...es-recipe.html > > http://www.food.com/recipe/simple-sweet-scones-66409 > > Okay, this one does have savory variations. > > http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/best-ever-scones > > http://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/blueberry-scones > > And people here ought to love this as it used King Arthur flour: > > http://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/scones-recipe > > And here's a UK recipe. Calls for caster sugar. > > http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/4...-clotted-cream > > Here's a Scottish recipe and oops! It's sweet. > > http://allrecipes.com/recipe/6906/scottish-oat-scones/ > > And here's another. Oops! Brown sugar. > > http://www.pillsbury.com/recipes/sco...4-9dcfe7d0802f > > Gee Jill... Perhaps you should start writing to all these people who > devised these recipes and tell them they are wrong! Our cheese scones don't include sugar, but they are not something I or my family ever bought. They were always home made. > -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
> wrote in message ... > On Friday, 26 February 2016 00:07:36 UTC, Julie Bove wrote: >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message >> ... >> > On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> >> >> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >> >> ... >> >>> >> >>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >> >> >> >> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >> >> fruit in them. >> > >> > Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My >> > grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained >> > fruit. >> > Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. >> >> Maybe that's what she called them. But any recipes I've ever seen for >> them >> contain sugar. > > At home I was always taught to make plain scones without sugar because we > ate them with butter and jam or to make savoury scones using grated cheese > in the mix. > > So I googled scone recipes and the top 9 hits all contain sugar. That > surprised me. Suffice it to say, if you don't want sweet sone don't use > sugar. Exactly, but you sound like us, we make our own. -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 5:13:12 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-02-25 12:54 PM, sf wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:05:22 -0500, jmcquown > > > wrote: > > > >> On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: > >>> > >>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message > >>> ... > >>>> > >>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. > >>> > >>> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have > >>> fruit in them. > >> > >> Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My > >> grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained > >> fruit. Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. > >> > > Your grandmother was Scottish and called biscuits scones. > > > > Mine was English, and she called them scones.... rhyming with "on (s)". That's how my grandmother pronounced it, although she was from Virginia. Cindy Hamilton |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 9:09:52 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 2/25/2016 7:21 PM, Julie Bove wrote: > > > > "Dave Smith" > wrote in message > > ... > >> On 2016-02-25 4:06 PM, Je嚙線s wrote: > >>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 15:45:33 -0500, Dave Smith > >>> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Scones seemed to have experienced a retail revival > >>>> and are commonly available on coffee shops, but they are much sweeter > >>>> than I am used to and usually have some sort of a glace or icing on > >>>> top. > >>> > >>> Eww. Why in the hell would anyone do that?? > >> > >> Beats me. I suppose that it is a way to extend the shelf life. Cover > >> it with something sweet and it will hold in the moisture and you won't > >> nice how dry the rest of it has become. My grandmothers and my mother > >> made scones frequently and they were always eaten fresh out of the > >> oven and they were usually all eaten. Scones and biscuits are made to > >> be eaten fresh and do not keep well. > > > > Oops. Sent blank reply. The store I am headed to sells huge scones > > with fruit in them and they are dipped in a thick glaze. > > I'm sure you could find a case of them online. Then they'll be moldy or > otherwise distasteful, as all of your shopping experiences tend to be. > > When are you going to learn where you live is not indicative of the > entire country? It's not just where she lives. It's the small, small number of places that she eats and shops. Cindy Hamilton |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote: > > Mine was English, and she called them scones.... rhyming with "on (s)". > > That's how my grandmother pronounced it, although she was from Virginia. I'm in Virginia. I've always heard it pronounced this way: Scone rhymes with 'own' and 'zone' and (ice cream) 'cone' I just looked though and see that dictionaries say it should be pronounced like [skohn, skon] I've never really cared for them. Taste like biscuits which I've never cared for either. No sweetness that I could detect and no fillings either. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
"Janet" > wrote in message t... > In article >, says... >> >> On 2/25/2016 7:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> > >> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message >> > ... >> >> On 2/25/2016 12:54 PM, sf wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:05:22 -0500, jmcquown > >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >> >>>>> ... >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >> >>>>> fruit in them. >> >>>> >> >>>> Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My >> >>>> grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained >> >>>> fruit. Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. >> >>>> >> >>> Your grandmother was Scottish and called biscuits scones. >> >>> >> >> She was Scottish but she made triangular shaped rolled scones. She >> >> never called them biscuits. >> > >> > You missed the point. >> > >> No, you did. >> >> > These are the famous scones in this state: >> > >> > http://fisherscones.com/ >> > >> > They are very sweet. I can't personally see the appeal but people go >> > to >> > the fair just to get them. I tried one once. Far too sweet for my >> > liking. >> >> Uh huh. Where you live is not indicative of the rest of this huge >> country. > > Where Julie lives,how Julie cooks, what Julie knows about what scone > means in Bothell or USA is completely irrelevent. > > There's a whole world outside Bothell and the USA where "scone" does > not mean sugar filled crap made from a packet mix coated with icing. That could be. But if you go to any store here and buy a scone, I can pretty well guarantee you that it will be sweet. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
"Gary" > wrote in message ... > Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> >> Dave Smith wrote: >> > Mine was English, and she called them scones.... rhyming with "on (s)". >> >> That's how my grandmother pronounced it, although she was from Virginia. > > I'm in Virginia. I've always heard it pronounced this way: > Scone rhymes with 'own' and 'zone' and (ice cream) 'cone' > > I just looked though and see that dictionaries say it should > be pronounced like [skohn, skon] > > I've never really cared for them. Taste like biscuits which > I've never cared for either. No sweetness that I could detect > and no fillings either. If there is no fruit in it then you're supposed to split it open and put something in it. I used to like biscuits and gravy. But I guess I would have to say that in the overall scheme of things I don't really care for biscuits all that much. Maybe I just ate too many of them. I went through a period of time where I baked tea biscuits and froze them. They were a rolled out and cut biscuit that was supposed to be topped with loaf sugar that had been dipped in orange or lemon juice. I couldn't find loaf sugar so I used a sugar cube. It seemed to work just as well. The juice would break it down somewhat and it melted across the top of the biscuit as it baked, forming a thin, crunchy coating. I can't really say that I liked those too much either but... They were cheap to make and they froze well. I could take one out of the freezer as I was getting ready for work and by the time I was ready to leave, I could eat it quickly and be on my way. I am not a morning person and tend to be grouchy and not want to eat then. But I need to eat so... This sort of thing worked for me then. I have not tried to make biscuits recently. I used to make them with water instead of milk as I never kept milk in the house. So I think I could do it. Just haven't wanted to. I did buy some cheap canned biscuits that don't contain dairy. I baked them and tried to eat them. Not a fan but I'm sure I will find a use for the other two cans. Not sure what though. Will probably use up some of that jam that I bought and make sweet rolls. Over the summer I was making some oat bars with a jam topping. I would bake a pan of them and would be lucky to get one for myself as husband was wolfing them down. So I stocked up on jam and oats and then sure enough, I haven't wanted one since. I suspect he would eat them if I made them. Just haven't wanted to make them either. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
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What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 3:45:30 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-02-25 9:05 AM, jmcquown wrote: > > On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: > > >> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have > >> fruit in them. > > > > Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My > > grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained > > fruit. Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. > > We often had scones when I was a kid. Sometimes they were plain and > sometimes they had currants or raisins in them. They were usually eaten > with butter and jam. Scones seemed to have experienced a retail revival > and are commonly available on coffee shops, but they are much sweeter > than I am used to and usually have some sort of a glace or icing on top. > They are also tiny. There is a seasonal tea house on the next road > over from us and one of their items is scones with clotted cream and jam. I've developed a theory about that, which applies more to the U.S. than to Canada, although our bad habits are probably moving north. U.S. scones from bakeries, coffee shops, grocery stores, etc. are sweetened, iced, etc. for three reasons (besides the sad U.S. preference for very sweet pastries): 1. So that they can be eaten on the go, or while doing something else such as working, surfing the web, texting, etc. Having to spread something on the scone would inhibit mindless eating. 2. So that the purveyor does not have to provide jam, butter, clotted cream, or anything else that would increase operating costs. 3. So that, when they are consumed along with oversweetened coffee beverages, they approach the sweetness of the coffee. Cindy Hamilton |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On 2016-02-26 9:10 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 3:45:30 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote: >> They are also tiny. There is a seasonal tea house on the next road >> over from us and one of their items is scones with clotted cream and jam. > > I've developed a theory about that, which applies more to the U.S. than > to Canada, although our bad habits are probably moving north. > > U.S. scones from bakeries, coffee shops, grocery stores, etc. are > sweetened, iced, etc. for three reasons (besides the sad U.S. preference > for very sweet pastries): > > 1. So that they can be eaten on the go, or while doing something else > such as working, surfing the web, texting, etc. Having to > spread something on the scone would inhibit mindless eating. > > 2. So that the purveyor does not have to provide jam, butter, > clotted cream, or anything else that would increase operating costs. > > 3. So that, when they are consumed along with oversweetened coffee > beverages, they approach the sweetness of the coffee. You may be right on all counts. Having been raised with scones as a regular treat, I was shocked when I got one at $tarbucks and bit into something that with cloying sweetness. The cream (or butter) and/or jam is essential because without them, scones are just bland biscuits. I am unable to find the recipe for scones that I tried making years ago using buttermilk, lemon zest and cranberries... I think it was cranberries. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
Dave Smith wrote:
> > I am unable to find the recipe for scones that I tried making years ago > using buttermilk, lemon zest and cranberries... I think it was cranberries. That sounds good but I can also see adding a nip of sugar to tone down the cranberry tang just a bit. |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On 2/26/2016 7:11 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Janet" > wrote in message > t... >> In article >, says... >>> >>> On 2/25/2016 7:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> > >>> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message >>> > ... >>> >> On 2/25/2016 12:54 PM, sf wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:05:22 -0500, jmcquown > >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>> >>>>> ... >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often >>> have >>> >>>>> fruit in them. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be >>> wrong. My >>> >>>> grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained >>> >>>> fruit. Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. >>> >>>> >>> >>> Your grandmother was Scottish and called biscuits scones. >>> >>> >>> >> She was Scottish but she made triangular shaped rolled scones. She >>> >> never called them biscuits. >>> > >>> > You missed the point. >>> > >>> No, you did. >>> >>> > These are the famous scones in this state: >>> > >>> > http://fisherscones.com/ >>> > >>> > They are very sweet. I can't personally see the appeal but people >>> go > to >>> > the fair just to get them. I tried one once. Far too sweet for my >>> > liking. >>> >>> Uh huh. Where you live is not indicative of the rest of this huge >>> country. >> >> Where Julie lives,how Julie cooks, what Julie knows about what scone >> means in Bothell or USA is completely irrelevent. >> >> There's a whole world outside Bothell and the USA where "scone" does >> not mean sugar filled crap made from a packet mix coated with icing. > > That could be. But if you go to any store here and buy a scone, I can > pretty well guarantee you that it will be sweet. Point is, my grandmother made scones from scratch. No one was talking about store-bought scones. Jill |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On 2/26/2016 7:22 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "Gary" > wrote in message > ... >> Cindy Hamilton wrote: >>> >>> Dave Smith wrote: >>> > Mine was English, and she called them scones.... rhyming with "on >>> (s)". >>> >>> That's how my grandmother pronounced it, although she was from Virginia. >> >> I'm in Virginia. I've always heard it pronounced this way: >> Scone rhymes with 'own' and 'zone' and (ice cream) 'cone' >> >> I just looked though and see that dictionaries say it should >> be pronounced like [skohn, skon] >> >> I've never really cared for them. Taste like biscuits which >> I've never cared for either. No sweetness that I could detect >> and no fillings either. > > If there is no fruit in it then you're supposed to split it open and put > something in it. > Butter! Or clotted cream. Jam, if you like jam. Jill |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:00:58 -0000, Janet > wrote:
>In article >, says... >> >> On 2/25/2016 7:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote: >> > >> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message >> > ... >> >> On 2/25/2016 12:54 PM, sf wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:05:22 -0500, jmcquown > >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >> >>>>> ... >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have >> >>>>> fruit in them. >> >>>> >> >>>> Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My >> >>>> grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained >> >>>> fruit. Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. >> >>>> >> >>> Your grandmother was Scottish and called biscuits scones. >> >>> >> >> She was Scottish but she made triangular shaped rolled scones. She >> >> never called them biscuits. >> > >> > You missed the point. >> > >> No, you did. >> >> > These are the famous scones in this state: >> > >> > http://fisherscones.com/ >> > >> > They are very sweet. I can't personally see the appeal but people go to >> > the fair just to get them. I tried one once. Far too sweet for my liking. >> >> Uh huh. Where you live is not indicative of the rest of this huge country. > > Where Julie lives,how Julie cooks, what Julie knows about what scone >means in Bothell or USA is completely irrelevent. > > There's a whole world outside Bothell and the USA where "scone" does >not mean sugar filled crap made from a packet mix coated with icing. > > Janet UK > Getting to the heart of the matter, do UK recipes (homemade) for scones contain "any" sugar at all? To my way of thinking, there is a difference between having sugar in a recipe and the end product being a sweet pastry. Janet US |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Friday, 26 February 2016 10:05:07 UTC, Julie Bove wrote:
> > wrote in message > ... > > On Friday, 26 February 2016 00:07:36 UTC, Julie Bove wrote: > >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message > >> ... > >> > On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: > >> >> > >> >> "Ophelia" > wrote in message > >> >> ... > >> >>> > >> >>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. > >> >> > >> >> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have > >> >> fruit in them. > >> > > >> > Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My > >> > grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained > >> > fruit. > >> > Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. > >> > >> Maybe that's what she called them. But any recipes I've ever seen for > >> them > >> contain sugar. > > > > At home I was always taught to make plain scones without sugar because we > > ate them with butter and jam or to make savoury scones using grated cheese > > in the mix. > > > > So I googled scone recipes and the top 9 hits all contain sugar. That > > surprised me. Suffice it to say, if you don't want sweet sone don't use > > sugar. > > > > Cherry > > I just plain don't want scones. Do not like them at all. Fair enough. Cherry |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Friday, 26 February 2016 11:24:26 UTC, Ophelia wrote:
> "graham" > wrote in message > ... > > On 25/02/2016 3:13 PM, Dave Smith wrote: > >> On 2016-02-25 12:54 PM, sf wrote: > >>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:05:22 -0500, jmcquown > > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message > >>>>> ... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. > >>>>> > >>>>> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have > >>>>> fruit in them. > >>>> > >>>> Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My > >>>> grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained > >>>> fruit. Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. > >>>> > >>> Your grandmother was Scottish and called biscuits scones. > >>> > >> > >> Mine was English, and she called them scones.... rhyming with "on (s)". > >> > > As did everyone in my village. > > ... and mine. > ....and us at home. The OED says 'skon' as well |
My Grandmother's Scone Recipe (WAS: What's for Dinner? (2/23/16))
On 2/26/2016 10:51 AM, Janet B wrote:
>> > Getting to the heart of the matter, do UK recipes (homemade) for > scones contain "any" sugar at all? To my way of thinking, there is a > difference between having sugar in a recipe and the end product being > a sweet pastry. > Janet US > My (Scottish) grandmother's recipe contains a mere 1/2 tsp. of sugar. I'd hardly call them "sweet". Hannah Brown's Scones 2 cups sifted flour 1/2 tsp. soda 1/2 tsp. cream of tartar 1/2 tsp. salt 1/2 tsp. sugar 1-1/3 cup buttermilk Mix together thoroughly, then add 1-1/2 tsp. oil. Bake on a hot griddle at high, even heat. That's all she wrote. :) I remember her shaping them into triangles (I'm not sure but I don't remember her using a rolling pin, she likely shaped them by hand). She baked them on a cast iron griddle. Jill |
What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
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What's for Dinner? (2/23/16)
On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 12:34:34 PM UTC-5, graham wrote:
> On 26/02/2016 9:02 AM, wrote: > > On Friday, 26 February 2016 11:24:26 UTC, Ophelia wrote: > >> "graham" > wrote in message > >> ... > >>> On 25/02/2016 3:13 PM, Dave Smith wrote: > >>>> On 2016-02-25 12:54 PM, sf wrote: > >>>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:05:22 -0500, jmcquown > > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 2/25/2016 7:53 AM, Julie Bove wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message > >>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Do you know what 'scones' are? Same thing. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Not here they're not. Here, scones are always sweet and often have > >>>>>>> fruit in them. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Nonsense. If by "here" you mean in the US you'd still be wrong. My > >>>>>> grandmother made scones and they were not sweet and never contained > >>>>>> fruit. Her scones were pretty much like USian rolled biscuits. > >>>>>> > >>>>> Your grandmother was Scottish and called biscuits scones. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Mine was English, and she called them scones.... rhyming with "on (s)". > >>>> > >>> As did everyone in my village. > >> > >> ... and mine. > >> > > ...and us at home. The OED says 'skon' as well > > > To be fair, the OED also gives the "own" pronunciation as an alternative. > However, I have noticed that Canadians and USians often lengthen vowel > sounds and sometimes shorten others, currently, the most obvious being > "Eye-ran" and "Eye-rack". Not every American does that. I use a short I (almost an E) for those. I notice that some British newscasters say "Afgahnistan"; short A for the first one, a longer A (as in father) for the second one. Weirds me out a little bit. Seems inconsistent. I've switched to using the long O in "scone" just so people won't look at me like I'm defective. Cindy Hamilton |
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