I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother Hubbard on
me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a visitor over who
has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just not up to grocery
shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things for me fell on deaf ears.
So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I decided that I wanted steak
so I put in the search term and saw what I thought was a small steak,
marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They arrived. They are huge and I
am not sure they are steak! I also know that had I seen them in the store
or worse yet read the package, I never would have bought them. But now I
have three and it seems they should be grilled. I have no grill. This is
what they a

http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013

It does say something on the package about making them in the oven which I
will have to do, but... Is anyone here familiar with such meat? I am
hoping that Angela can read the directions because I can't. The tiny print
and the color of the print made me give up. I could only make out oven and
375 degrees.

Thanks!

On 1/16/2016 6:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother
> Hubbard on me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a
> visitor over who has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just
> not up to grocery shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things for
> me fell on deaf ears. So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I
> decided that I wanted steak so I put in the search term and saw what I
> thought was a small steak, marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They
> arrived. They are huge and I am not sure they are steak! I also know
> that had I seen them in the store or worse yet read the package, I never
> would have bought them. But now I have three and it seems they should
> be grilled. I have no grill. This is what they a
>
> http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
>
That link doesn't work. "there are no results matching steak"

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/16/2016 6:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother
>> Hubbard on me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a
>> visitor over who has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just
>> not up to grocery shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things for
>> me fell on deaf ears. So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I
>> decided that I wanted steak so I put in the search term and saw what I
>> thought was a small steak, marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They
>> arrived. They are huge and I am not sure they are steak! I also know
>> that had I seen them in the store or worse yet read the package, I never
>> would have bought them. But now I have three and it seems they should
>> be grilled. I have no grill. This is what they a
>>
>> http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
>>
> That link doesn't work. "there are no results matching steak"

Crap. Let me see if I can find it elsewhere. You might have to be logged in
to view it.

Might be this:

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/roasted...prod5260040.ip

It's this but no pic.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/cal...illet-43726922

Might actually be a filet of beef like a roast?

On 1/16/2016 7:31 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 1/16/2016 6:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother
>>> Hubbard on me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a
>>> visitor over who has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just
>>> not up to grocery shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things for
>>> me fell on deaf ears. So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I
>>> decided that I wanted steak so I put in the search term and saw what I
>>> thought was a small steak, marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They
>>> arrived. They are huge and I am not sure they are steak! I also know
>>> that had I seen them in the store or worse yet read the package, I never
>>> would have bought them. But now I have three and it seems they should
>>> be grilled. I have no grill. This is what they a
>>>
>>> http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
>>>
>>>
>> That link doesn't work. "there are no results matching steak"
>
> Crap. Let me see if I can find it elsewhere. You might have to be
> logged in to view it.
>
> Might be this:
>
> http://www.samsclub.com/sams/roasted...prod5260040.ip
>
>
> It's this but no pic.
>
> http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/cal...illet-43726922
>
>
> Might actually be a filet of beef like a roast?

Thanks for that. A petit beef filet is a steak.

I have no idea what it is you're going to have delivered. There are no
Safeway stores or Sams Clubs anywhere near where I shop. I do hope you
are not disappointed.

Oh, and I wouldn't cook the steaks in the oven unless you're using the
broiler Surely you've heard of pan-frying or even using a grill pan on
the stovetop?

If you aren't able to stand on your feet to do that please do put the
steaks in the freezer. Until such time as you can cook them properly.
You do NOT have to own a grill to produce nicely cooked steaks.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/16/2016 7:31 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 1/16/2016 6:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother
>>>> Hubbard on me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a
>>>> visitor over who has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just
>>>> not up to grocery shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things
>>>> for
>>>> me fell on deaf ears. So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I
>>>> decided that I wanted steak so I put in the search term and saw what I
>>>> thought was a small steak, marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They
>>>> arrived. They are huge and I am not sure they are steak! I also know
>>>> that had I seen them in the store or worse yet read the package, I
>>>> never
>>>> would have bought them. But now I have three and it seems they should
>>>> be grilled. I have no grill. This is what they a
>>>>
>>>> http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That link doesn't work. "there are no results matching steak"
>>
>> Crap. Let me see if I can find it elsewhere. You might have to be
>> logged in to view it.
>>
>> Might be this:
>>
>> http://www.samsclub.com/sams/roasted...prod5260040.ip
>>
>>
>> It's this but no pic.
>>
>> http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/cal...illet-43726922
>>
>>
>> Might actually be a filet of beef like a roast?
>
> Thanks for that. A petit beef filet is a steak.
>
> I have no idea what it is you're going to have delivered. There are no
> Safeway stores or Sams Clubs anywhere near where I shop. I do hope you
> are not disappointed.
>
> Oh, and I wouldn't cook the steaks in the oven unless you're using the
> broiler Surely you've heard of pan-frying or even using a grill pan on
> the stovetop?
>
> If you aren't able to stand on your feet to do that please do put the
> steaks in the freezer. Until such time as you can cook them properly. You
> do NOT have to own a grill to produce nicely cooked steaks.

The thing is, I don't think these are steaks. And I don't use the broiler.
They don't look like steaks which is why I asked. Says grill or oven, 375
degrees. And why couldn't I stand on my feet? I will not put uncooked meat
in the freezer. If I do, it will stay there until I throw it out. I've
said that time and time again. They will keep till the 22nd so I plan to
make them by then. I am just wondering what exactly I bought.

On 1/16/2016 9:31 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 1/16/2016 7:31 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 1/16/2016 6:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother
>>>>> Hubbard on me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a
>>>>> visitor over who has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just
>>>>> not up to grocery shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get
>>>>> things for
>>>>> me fell on deaf ears. So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I
>>>>> decided that I wanted steak so I put in the search term and saw what I
>>>>> thought was a small steak, marinated in garlic. I ordered three.
>>>>> They
>>>>> arrived. They are huge and I am not sure they are steak! I also know
>>>>> that had I seen them in the store or worse yet read the package, I
>>>>> never
>>>>> would have bought them. But now I have three and it seems they should
>>>>> be grilled. I have no grill. This is what they a
>>>>>
>>>>> http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> That link doesn't work. "there are no results matching steak"
>>>
>>> Crap. Let me see if I can find it elsewhere. You might have to be
>>> logged in to view it.
>>>
>>> Might be this:
>>>
>>> http://www.samsclub.com/sams/roasted...prod5260040.ip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's this but no pic.
>>>
>>> http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/cal...illet-43726922
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Might actually be a filet of beef like a roast?
>>
>> Thanks for that. A petit beef filet is a steak.
>>
>> I have no idea what it is you're going to have delivered. There are
>> no Safeway stores or Sams Clubs anywhere near where I shop. I do hope
>> you are not disappointed.
>>
>> Oh, and I wouldn't cook the steaks in the oven unless you're using the
>> broiler Surely you've heard of pan-frying or even using a grill pan
>> on the stovetop?
>>
>> If you aren't able to stand on your feet to do that please do put the
>> steaks in the freezer. Until such time as you can cook them properly.
>> You do NOT have to own a grill to produce nicely cooked steaks.
>
> The thing is, I don't think these are steaks. And I don't use the
> broiler. They don't look like steaks which is why I asked. Says grill
> or oven, 375 degrees. And why couldn't I stand on my feet?

I thought you just wrote you are supposed to sit up but not stand on
your feet. I truly cannot keep up with the medical stuff.

> I will not put uncooked meat in the freezer.

That makes absolutely no sense.

> If I do, it will stay there until I throw it out.

Obviously a waste.

> I've said that time and time again. They will keep till
> the 22nd so I plan to make them by then. I am just wondering what
> exactly I bought.

I'm pretty sure no one knows exactly what you bought since the link
didn't work. You keep call it "them" but if it's not steaks sorry, no
clue based on your description.

Jill

jmcquown > wrote in
:

>>
> Oh, and I wouldn't cook the steaks in the oven unless you're using the
> broiler Surely you've heard of pan-frying or even using a grill pan
> on the stovetop?
>
>

Really? Why is that? Many professional cooks in restaurants begin by
searing a steak in a grill pan and then finishing it in an oven. Some do
it in reverse, cooking it in the oven and then finishing it with a sear.

I take lessons with a former restaurant chef and we've used that technique
many times. Always turns out well, at least as far as I can taste.

"Alan Holbrook" > wrote in message
. 130...
> jmcquown > wrote in
> :
>
>>>
>> Oh, and I wouldn't cook the steaks in the oven unless you're using the
>> broiler Surely you've heard of pan-frying or even using a grill pan
>> on the stovetop?
>>
>>
>
> Really? Why is that? Many professional cooks in restaurants begin by
> searing a steak in a grill pan and then finishing it in an oven. Some do
> it in reverse, cooking it in the oven and then finishing it with a sear.
>
> I take lessons with a former restaurant chef and we've used that technique
> many times. Always turns out well, at least as far as I can taste.

I do lots of meat in the oven with no problems.

On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:31:39 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>> On 1/16/2016 6:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother
>>> Hubbard on me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a
>>> visitor over who has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just
>>> not up to grocery shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things for
>>> me fell on deaf ears. So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I
>>> decided that I wanted steak so I put in the search term and saw what I
>>> thought was a small steak, marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They
>>> arrived. They are huge and I am not sure they are steak! I also know
>>> that had I seen them in the store or worse yet read the package, I never
>>> would have bought them. But now I have three and it seems they should
>>> be grilled. I have no grill. This is what they a
>>>
>>> http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
>>>
>> That link doesn't work. "there are no results matching steak"
>
>Crap. Let me see if I can find it elsewhere. You might have to be logged in
>to view it.
>
>Might be this:
>
>http://www.samsclub.com/sams/roasted...prod5260040.ip
>
>It's this but no pic.
>
>http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/cal...illet-43726922
>
>Might actually be a filet of beef like a roast?

I'd pan fry it briefly then put it in the oven to finish. Whatever you
do, don't overcook it. It will be inedible.

Doris

"Doris Night" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:31:39 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 1/16/2016 6:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother
>>>> Hubbard on me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a
>>>> visitor over who has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just
>>>> not up to grocery shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things
>>>> for
>>>> me fell on deaf ears. So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I
>>>> decided that I wanted steak so I put in the search term and saw what I
>>>> thought was a small steak, marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They
>>>> arrived. They are huge and I am not sure they are steak! I also know
>>>> that had I seen them in the store or worse yet read the package, I
>>>> never
>>>> would have bought them. But now I have three and it seems they should
>>>> be grilled. I have no grill. This is what they a
>>>>
>>>> http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
>>>>
>>> That link doesn't work. "there are no results matching steak"
>>
>>Crap. Let me see if I can find it elsewhere. You might have to be logged
>>in
>>to view it.
>>
>>Might be this:
>>
>>http://www.samsclub.com/sams/roasted...prod5260040.ip
>>
>>It's this but no pic.
>>
>>http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/cal...illet-43726922
>>
>>Might actually be a filet of beef like a roast?
>
> I'd pan fry it briefly then put it in the oven to finish. Whatever you
> do, don't overcook it. It will be inedible.

They're very large to put in a pan but I guess I could try. Thanks!

On 1/16/2016 9:32 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>

>>>
>>> Might actually be a filet of beef like a roast?
>>
>> I'd pan fry it briefly then put it in the oven to finish. Whatever you
>> do, don't overcook it. It will be inedible.
>
> They're very large to put in a pan but I guess I could try. Thanks!

Think of it as a mini roast. You pan sear it and then finish in the
oven. I'd take them out at 115 degrees and let rest 10 minutes.

Filet, the tenderloin, is very lean and if overdone will be dried out.

In article >, says...
>
> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:31:39 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>> On 1/16/2016 6:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>> I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother
> >>>> Hubbard on me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a
> >>>> visitor over who has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just
> >>>> not up to grocery shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things
> >>>> for
> >>>> me fell on deaf ears. So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I
> >>>> decided that I wanted steak so I put in the search term and saw what I
> >>>> thought was a small steak, marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They
> >>>> arrived. They are huge and I am not sure they are steak! I also know
> >>>> that had I seen them in the store or worse yet read the package, I
> >>>> never
> >>>> would have bought them. But now I have three and it seems they should
> >>>> be grilled. I have no grill. This is what they a
> >>>>
> >>>> http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
> >>>>
> >>> That link doesn't work. "there are no results matching steak"
> >>
> >>Crap. Let me see if I can find it elsewhere. You might have to be logged
> >>in
> >>to view it.
> >>
> >>Might be this:
> >>
> >>http://www.samsclub.com/sams/roasted...prod5260040.ip
> >>
> >>It's this but no pic.
> >>
> >>http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/cal...illet-43726922
> >>
> >>Might actually be a filet of beef like a roast?
> >
> > I'd pan fry it briefly then put it in the oven to finish. Whatever you
> > do, don't overcook it. It will be inedible.
>
> They're very large to put in a pan but I guess I could try. Thanks!

"Large"? The link says 4 ounces.


Janet UK

On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 6:31:47 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 1/16/2016 6:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother
> >> Hubbard on me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a
> >> visitor over who has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just
> >> not up to grocery shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things for
> >> me fell on deaf ears. So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I
> >> decided that I wanted steak so I put in the search term and saw what I
> >> thought was a small steak, marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They
> >> arrived. They are huge and I am not sure they are steak! I also know
> >> that had I seen them in the store or worse yet read the package, I never
> >> would have bought them. But now I have three and it seems they should
> >> be grilled. I have no grill. This is what they a
> >>
> >> http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
> >>
> > That link doesn't work. "there are no results matching steak"
>
> Crap. Let me see if I can find it elsewhere. You might have to be logged in
> to view it.
>
> Might be this:
>
> http://www.samsclub.com/sams/roasted...prod5260040.ip
>
> It's this but no pic.
>
> http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/cal...illet-43726922
>
> Might actually be a filet of beef like a roast?

I'll bet it's not the best filet. Probably not bad, I mean how bad can it be? But it's not not the best. I'll bet Straub's $37.99/lb for the whole filet! Now THAT'S a good filet!! (I was looking at it while they ground me some more "ground beast"!)

http://straubs.com

John Kuthe...

On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 4:48:50 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
> I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother Hubbard on
> me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a visitor over who
> has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just not up to grocery
> shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things for me fell on deaf ears.
> So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I decided that I wanted steak
> so I put in the search term and saw what I thought was a small steak,
> marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They arrived. They are huge and I
> am not sure they are steak! I also know that had I seen them in the store
> or worse yet read the package, I never would have bought them. But now I
> have three and it seems they should be grilled. I have no grill. This is
> what they a
>
> http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
>
> It does say something on the package about making them in the oven which I
> will have to do, but... Is anyone here familiar with such meat? I am
> hoping that Angela can read the directions because I can't. The tiny print
> and the color of the print made me give up. I could only make out oven and
> 375 degrees.
>
> Thanks!

I think that I would have stocked up on READY-TO-EAT stuff like TV dinners, various meat pies, and such that could be micro-waved. Even canned stews, as yucky as they are, would do in a pinch. If those other two don't want to participate them tell to shape up or bloody well starve.
====

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 4:48:50 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
> I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother Hubbard
> on
> me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a visitor over who
> has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just not up to grocery
> shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things for me fell on deaf
> ears.
> So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I decided that I wanted
> steak
> so I put in the search term and saw what I thought was a small steak,
> marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They arrived. They are huge and I
> am not sure they are steak! I also know that had I seen them in the store
> or worse yet read the package, I never would have bought them. But now I
> have three and it seems they should be grilled. I have no grill. This is
> what they a
>
> http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
>
> It does say something on the package about making them in the oven which I
> will have to do, but... Is anyone here familiar with such meat? I am
> hoping that Angela can read the directions because I can't. The tiny
> print
> and the color of the print made me give up. I could only make out oven
> and
> 375 degrees.
>
> Thanks!

I think that I would have stocked up on READY-TO-EAT stuff like TV dinners,
various meat pies, and such that could be micro-waved. Even canned stews, as
yucky as they are, would do in a pinch. If those other two don't want to
participate them tell to shape up or bloody well starve.
====

Nobody here will eat that stuff and I certainly can't!

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
> On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 4:48:50 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother Hubbard
>> on
>> me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a visitor over who
>> has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just not up to grocery
>> shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things for me fell on deaf
>> ears.
>> So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I decided that I wanted
>> steak
>> so I put in the search term and saw what I thought was a small steak,
>> marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They arrived. They are huge and
>> I
>> am not sure they are steak! I also know that had I seen them in the
>> store
>> or worse yet read the package, I never would have bought them. But now I
>> have three and it seems they should be grilled. I have no grill. This
>> is
>> what they a
>>
>> http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
>>
>> It does say something on the package about making them in the oven which
>> I
>> will have to do, but... Is anyone here familiar with such meat? I am
>> hoping that Angela can read the directions because I can't. The tiny
>> print
>> and the color of the print made me give up. I could only make out oven
>> and
>> 375 degrees.
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> I think that I would have stocked up on READY-TO-EAT stuff like TV
> dinners, various meat pies, and such that could be micro-waved. Even
> canned stews, as yucky as they are, would do in a pinch. If those other
> two don't want to participate them tell to shape up or bloody well starve.
> ====
>
> Nobody here will eat that stuff and I certainly can't!

I'd send them for take out of their choice, period.

Cheri

On 1/16/2016 8:24 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> Nobody here will eat that stuff and I certainly can't!
>
> I'd send them for take out of their choice, period.
>
> Cheri

Don't you know by now they won't help and have no intention of fending
for themselves?

Jill

On 2016-01-16 9:14 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/16/2016 8:24 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Nobody here will eat that stuff and I certainly can't!
>>
>> I'd send them for take out of their choice, period.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Don't you know by now they won't help and have no intention of fending
> for themselves?
>

I would let them starve.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 4:48:50 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother
>>> Hubbard on
>>> me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a visitor over
>>> who
>>> has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just not up to grocery
>>> shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things for me fell on deaf
>>> ears.
>>> So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I decided that I wanted
>>> steak
>>> so I put in the search term and saw what I thought was a small steak,
>>> marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They arrived. They are huge and
>>> I
>>> am not sure they are steak! I also know that had I seen them in the
>>> store
>>> or worse yet read the package, I never would have bought them. But now
>>> I
>>> have three and it seems they should be grilled. I have no grill. This
>>> is
>>> what they a
>>>
>>> http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
>>>
>>> It does say something on the package about making them in the oven which
>>> I
>>> will have to do, but... Is anyone here familiar with such meat? I am
>>> hoping that Angela can read the directions because I can't. The tiny
>>> print
>>> and the color of the print made me give up. I could only make out oven
>>> and
>>> 375 degrees.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>
>> I think that I would have stocked up on READY-TO-EAT stuff like TV
>> dinners, various meat pies, and such that could be micro-waved. Even
>> canned stews, as yucky as they are, would do in a pinch. If those other
>> two don't want to participate them tell to shape up or bloody well
>> starve.
>> ====
>>
>> Nobody here will eat that stuff and I certainly can't!
>
> I'd send them for take out of their choice, period.

Nobody here eats take out. That's our choice.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 4:48:50 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother
>>>> Hubbard on
>>>> me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a visitor over
>>>> who
>>>> has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just not up to grocery
>>>> shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things for me fell on deaf
>>>> ears.
>>>> So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I decided that I wanted
>>>> steak
>>>> so I put in the search term and saw what I thought was a small steak,
>>>> marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They arrived. They are huge
>>>> and I
>>>> am not sure they are steak! I also know that had I seen them in the
>>>> store
>>>> or worse yet read the package, I never would have bought them. But now
>>>> I
>>>> have three and it seems they should be grilled. I have no grill. This
>>>> is
>>>> what they a
>>>>
>>>> http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
>>>>
>>>> It does say something on the package about making them in the oven
>>>> which I
>>>> will have to do, but... Is anyone here familiar with such meat? I am
>>>> hoping that Angela can read the directions because I can't. The tiny
>>>> print
>>>> and the color of the print made me give up. I could only make out oven
>>>> and
>>>> 375 degrees.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> I think that I would have stocked up on READY-TO-EAT stuff like TV
>>> dinners, various meat pies, and such that could be micro-waved. Even
>>> canned stews, as yucky as they are, would do in a pinch. If those other
>>> two don't want to participate them tell to shape up or bloody well
>>> starve.
>>> ====
>>>
>>> Nobody here will eat that stuff and I certainly can't!
>>
>> I'd send them for take out of their choice, period.
>
> Nobody here eats take out. That's our choice.

OK, but you have been at many restaurants through the years. Send them
there, you eat what you want at home.

Cheri
>

On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 6:18:02 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
> On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 4:48:50 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
> > I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother Hubbard
> > on
> > me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a visitor over who
> > has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just not up to grocery
> > shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things for me fell on deaf
> > ears.
> > So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I decided that I wanted
> > steak
> > so I put in the search term and saw what I thought was a small steak,
> > marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They arrived. They are huge and I
> > am not sure they are steak! I also know that had I seen them in the store
> > or worse yet read the package, I never would have bought them. But now I
> > have three and it seems they should be grilled. I have no grill. This is
> > what they a
> >
> > http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
> >
> > It does say something on the package about making them in the oven which I
> > will have to do, but... Is anyone here familiar with such meat? I am
> > hoping that Angela can read the directions because I can't. The tiny
> > print
> > and the color of the print made me give up. I could only make out oven
> > and
> > 375 degrees.
> >
> > Thanks!
>
> I think that I would have stocked up on READY-TO-EAT stuff like TV dinners,
> various meat pies, and such that could be micro-waved. Even canned stews, as
> yucky as they are, would do in a pinch. If those other two don't want to
> participate them tell to shape up or bloody well starve.
> ====
>
> Nobody here will eat that stuff and I certainly can't!

Please read the last four words of my posting.

Your household is full of "spoiled brats".
====

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 6:18:02 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 4:48:50 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother
>> > Hubbard
>> > on
>> > me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a visitor over
>> > who
>> > has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just not up to grocery
>> > shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things for me fell on deaf
>> > ears.
>> > So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I decided that I wanted
>> > steak
>> > so I put in the search term and saw what I thought was a small steak,
>> > marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They arrived. They are huge
>> > and I
>> > am not sure they are steak! I also know that had I seen them in the
>> > store
>> > or worse yet read the package, I never would have bought them. But now
>> > I
>> > have three and it seems they should be grilled. I have no grill. This
>> > is
>> > what they a
>> >
>> > http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
>> >
>> > It does say something on the package about making them in the oven
>> > which I
>> > will have to do, but... Is anyone here familiar with such meat? I am
>> > hoping that Angela can read the directions because I can't. The tiny
>> > print
>> > and the color of the print made me give up. I could only make out oven
>> > and
>> > 375 degrees.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>>
>> I think that I would have stocked up on READY-TO-EAT stuff like TV
>> dinners,
>> various meat pies, and such that could be micro-waved. Even canned stews,
>> as
>> yucky as they are, would do in a pinch. If those other two don't want to
>> participate them tell to shape up or bloody well starve.
>> ====
>>
>> Nobody here will eat that stuff and I certainly can't!
>
> Please read the last four words of my posting.
>
> Your household is full of "spoiled brats".
> ====

No brats here. There is a kielbasa but it's fine. I did have to throw out
half of a cucumber, some carrots, tiny orange thingies and cottage cheese.
Just bought that too. Should have checked the date on it. It was moldy.

But I didn't come here to argue about my family. I asked if anyone was
familiar with this meat.

Roy wrote:
> On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 6:18:02 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Roy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 4:48:50 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother Hubbard
>>> on
>>> me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a visitor over who
>>> has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just not up to grocery
>>> shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things for me fell on deaf
>>> ears.
>>> So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I decided that I wanted
>>> steak
>>> so I put in the search term and saw what I thought was a small steak,
>>> marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They arrived. They are huge and I
>>> am not sure they are steak! I also know that had I seen them in the store
>>> or worse yet read the package, I never would have bought them. But now I
>>> have three and it seems they should be grilled. I have no grill. This is
>>> what they a
>>>
>>> http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
>>>
>>> It does say something on the package about making them in the oven which I
>>> will have to do, but... Is anyone here familiar with such meat? I am
>>> hoping that Angela can read the directions because I can't. The tiny
>>> print
>>> and the color of the print made me give up. I could only make out oven
>>> and
>>> 375 degrees.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>
>> I think that I would have stocked up on READY-TO-EAT stuff like TV dinners,
>> various meat pies, and such that could be micro-waved. Even canned stews, as
>> yucky as they are, would do in a pinch. If those other two don't want to
>> participate them tell to shape up or bloody well starve.
>> ====
>>
>> Nobody here will eat that stuff and I certainly can't!
>
> Please read the last four words of my posting.
>
> Your household is full of "spoiled brats".
> ====
>

Your soul is invaded by EVIL!

On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 8:39:05 PM UTC-7, cibola de oro wrote:
> Roy wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 6:18:02 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> "Roy" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 4:48:50 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>> I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother Hubbard
> >>> on
> >>> me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a visitor over who
> >>> has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just not up to grocery
> >>> shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things for me fell on deaf
> >>> ears.
> >>> So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I decided that I wanted
> >>> steak
> >>> so I put in the search term and saw what I thought was a small steak,
> >>> marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They arrived. They are huge and I
> >>> am not sure they are steak! I also know that had I seen them in the store
> >>> or worse yet read the package, I never would have bought them. But now I
> >>> have three and it seems they should be grilled. I have no grill. This is
> >>> what they a
> >>>
> >>> http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
> >>>
> >>> It does say something on the package about making them in the oven which I
> >>> will have to do, but... Is anyone here familiar with such meat? I am
> >>> hoping that Angela can read the directions because I can't. The tiny
> >>> print
> >>> and the color of the print made me give up. I could only make out oven
> >>> and
> >>> 375 degrees.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>
> >> I think that I would have stocked up on READY-TO-EAT stuff like TV dinners,
> >> various meat pies, and such that could be micro-waved. Even canned stews, as
> >> yucky as they are, would do in a pinch. If those other two don't want to
> >> participate them tell to shape up or bloody well starve.
> >> ====
> >>
> >> Nobody here will eat that stuff and I certainly can't!
> >
> > Please read the last four words of my posting.
> >
> > Your household is full of "spoiled brats".
> > ====
> >
>
> Your soul is invaded by EVIL!

That is so patently untrue and I am always giving good advice to Julie as she lets some people walk all over her.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Roy" > wrote in message
> ...
> On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 4:48:50 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother Hubbard
>> on
>> me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a visitor over who
>> has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just not up to grocery
>> shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things for me fell on deaf
>> ears.
>> So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I decided that I wanted
>> steak
>> so I put in the search term and saw what I thought was a small steak,
>> marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They arrived. They are huge and
>> I
>> am not sure they are steak! I also know that had I seen them in the
>> store
>> or worse yet read the package, I never would have bought them. But now I
>> have three and it seems they should be grilled. I have no grill. This
>> is
>> what they a
>>
>> http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
>>
>> It does say something on the package about making them in the oven which
>> I
>> will have to do, but... Is anyone here familiar with such meat? I am
>> hoping that Angela can read the directions because I can't. The tiny
>> print
>> and the color of the print made me give up. I could only make out oven
>> and
>> 375 degrees.
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> I think that I would have stocked up on READY-TO-EAT stuff like TV
> dinners, various meat pies, and such that could be micro-waved. Even
> canned stews, as yucky as they are, would do in a pinch. If those other
> two don't want to participate them tell to shape up or bloody well starve.
> ====
>
> Nobody here will eat that stuff and I certainly can't!

--
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On 1/16/2016 5:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother
> Hubbard on me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a
> visitor over who has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just
> not up to grocery shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things for
> me fell on deaf ears. So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I
> decided that I wanted steak so I put in the search term and saw what I
> thought was a small steak, marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They
> arrived. They are huge and I am not sure they are steak! I also know
> that had I seen them in the store or worse yet read the package, I never
> would have bought them. But now I have three and it seems they should
> be grilled. I have no grill. This is what they a
>
> http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
>
>
> It does say something on the package about making them in the oven which
> I will have to do, but... Is anyone here familiar with such meat? I am
> hoping that Angela can read the directions because I can't. The tiny
> print and the color of the print made me give up. I could only make out
> oven and 375 degrees.
>
> Thanks!

This looks like a tenderloin that you could slice into steaks. And may
I ask why you don't want to put raw meat into the freezer. You said in
another message that you have said this "time and time again," but you
could have a great many steaks frozen and ready to go. Otherwise, it
sounds like there will be a great deal of waste because of the quantity
you described. It's the easiest thing in the world to freeze meat, then
cook it later.

I hope you are feeling well.

MaryL

"MaryL" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/16/2016 5:48 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I thought I had plenty of food here but my fridge went all Mother
>> Hubbard on me while in the hospital. It did not help that we had a
>> visitor over who has the appetite of a 12 year old boy! And I am just
>> not up to grocery shopping. Plus my asking someone to go get things for
>> me fell on deaf ears. So I place an order at Safeway for delivery. I
>> decided that I wanted steak so I put in the search term and saw what I
>> thought was a small steak, marinated in garlic. I ordered three. They
>> arrived. They are huge and I am not sure they are steak! I also know
>> that had I seen them in the store or worse yet read the package, I never
>> would have bought them. But now I have three and it seems they should
>> be grilled. I have no grill. This is what they a
>>
>> http://shop.safeway.com/ecom/search?...Info_188010013
>>
>>
>> It does say something on the package about making them in the oven which
>> I will have to do, but... Is anyone here familiar with such meat? I am
>> hoping that Angela can read the directions because I can't. The tiny
>> print and the color of the print made me give up. I could only make out
>> oven and 375 degrees.
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> This looks like a tenderloin that you could slice into steaks. And may I
> ask why you don't want to put raw meat into the freezer. You said in
> another message that you have said this "time and time again," but you
> could have a great many steaks frozen and ready to go. Otherwise, it
> sounds like there will be a great deal of waste because of the quantity
> you described. It's the easiest thing in the world to freeze meat, then
> cook it later.
>
> I hope you are feeling well.
>
> MaryL

Because we don't eat raw meat that has been in the freezer. For one thing,
I have no room for it. For another, if I put it in there, I will never take
it out to defrost it. And I hate microwave defrosting. I have had to live
in places where I was forced to freeze meat. I just plain don't like it. I
don't like to do it and I don't like the end results. Might be easy. But
easy isn't always good.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Because we don't eat raw meat that has been in the freezer. For one thing,
> I have no room for it. For another, if I put it in there, I will never take
> it out to defrost it. And I hate microwave defrosting. I have had to live
> in places where I was forced to freeze meat. I just plain don't like it. I
> don't like to do it and I don't like the end results. Might be easy. But
> easy isn't always good.

Unbelievable. No wonder your mom insists on eating at a restaurant
when you are with her.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Because we don't eat raw meat that has been in the freezer. For one
>> thing,
>> I have no room for it. For another, if I put it in there, I will never
>> take
>> it out to defrost it. And I hate microwave defrosting. I have had to
>> live
>> in places where I was forced to freeze meat. I just plain don't like it.
>> I
>> don't like to do it and I don't like the end results. Might be easy.
>> But
>> easy isn't always good.
>
> Unbelievable. No wonder your mom insists on eating at a restaurant
> when you are with her.

Not when *I* am with her. Both of my parents hated eating at home. They
only ever wanted to dine out and my mom hated to cook. My dad and I watched
cooking shows together. He always wanted to cook but beyond a few very
simple things, he was a failure at it. Neither of them liked to stay home
and always wanted to be out doing things. So my life was a series of
vacations away from home, day trips, road trips and visiting people. I can
remember being so angry because all I wanted to do was stay home and do my
school work.

Keep in mind that I was also doing a lot of activities. Some by choice and
some not. Swim lessons, dance lessons, teaching dance, drama, choir, pep
club, school mascot, Decca, Jr. Achievement, church things, and then when
older, employment. So being at home and being able to just hang out in my
room was something I didn't often get to do. Mostly days like that came
about when everyone else was too sick to go out and chances are then, I was
too.

Once I got my own place, I just wanted to stay in it. And I did do that for
the first few months. Didn't go out except to shop and go to work. Cut all
ties with my family except for my brother because I was just that fed up
with it all. I got over that when I realized that I would just have to
accept them for who they were and to limit my time with them. So a
restaurant meal was okay once a week. They are not the chatty type. You
won't find them enjoying coffee and dessert. They want their food, want to
wolf it down and go.

Me? I *am* a chatter. I wanted to laugh when I was in the hospital and my
brother was advocating for me because I was too out of it to do otherwise.
This was when they were insisting that I had to go home. I think this is
where Jill got the mistaken idea that I am not supposed to walk. At that
point in time, I could not walk. I was so out of it and dizzy. I felt like
they pushed me from the gurney into a black abyss with some weird colored
sparkles. Somehow I got into the hospital bed and hooked up to the IV and
other things. I can remember the nurse telling my brother that I was
perfectly fine and acting normally. Then he snapped at her something
like... This is not normal. This is not her. She never shuts up. If she
were fine, she would be talking to you. And I would. My SIL said the same.

This is why Angela hates to go shopping with me. She's an introvert an I am
not. I will talk to anyone and I do. So even what should be a quick trip
like today could take me an hour, especially if I run into some people I
know who are also chatty and I haven't seen in a while. I can see why
wouldn't like it.

Anyway... Husband is not so much of a homebody given his 'druthers. He
likes to go out and do things but right now that isn't much of an option for
reasons I won't get into here. Angela and I like to stay home and play with
the cats. Yes, we both like to get out sometimes. But there is no strong
urge for us to have to have activity all the time. And we prefer to eat at
home. We can stay in our lounging clothes, watch TV, use the computer, read
a book, sit on the couch or whatever we want to do while eating. And we
don't have the annoying drive to and from the restaurant. We also don't
have to deal with any other annoying people who might be in there.

Also, the constant dining out when I was younger and also on our cross
country moves got wearing. I can't expect another person to understand this
is this wasn't their life. I gather that most people either eat fast food
or dine out only on special occasions. We didn't eat much fast food. I
always insisted on Mexican and we did get that sometimes. And it was good.
But we did sometimes dine at places that I hated or at best would rather
not. Like Italian, seafood, Chinese, Greek. I didn't know enough in those
days about Greek food. I actually do like some of it but my parents always
insisted that we get Souvlaki because it was sooo good. I hated the stuff.
So a restaurant meal there might mean my leaving hungry because I couldn't
force the food down beyond a bite or two. Also in those days, many places
had good salad bars. If that was an option that was what I ate. So the
food wasn't always bad. It was just that a meal took at least two hours our
of my day. The driving there and back included. Yeah, a meal at home might
take that too if you count the shopping and prep time. But at least I am
still at home and can do other things.

If there is one thing I hate, hate, hate, it is driving around. Each time I
do have to go out, I combine as many other things into the trip as I can so
I don't have to go out again. I hate having to drive to just one place for
just one thing. Today will be an exception. I am going stir crazy. I need
to get out and see people and I do need food and medicine.

On 1/17/2016 11:08 AM, Gary wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Because we don't eat raw meat that has been in the freezer. For one thing,
>> I have no room for it. For another, if I put it in there, I will never take
>> it out to defrost it. And I hate microwave defrosting. I have had to live
>> in places where I was forced to freeze meat. I just plain don't like it. I
>> don't like to do it and I don't like the end results. Might be easy. But
>> easy isn't always good.
>
> Unbelievable. No wonder your mom insists on eating at a restaurant
> when you are with her.
>
I don't understand this at all. She had room enough to cook and freeze
some things before she went to the hospital. Yet she has no room to
freeze raw meat.

As for defrosting, it's been discussed many times over the years. Place
the (wrapped) frozen meat in a pan of *cold* water. It will thaw out
very quickly. All that is required is a little advance planning. Of
course that won't satisfy the guy with the "must have dinner NOW"
mentality. Everyone knows how I feel about that particular attitude.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/17/2016 11:08 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> Because we don't eat raw meat that has been in the freezer. For one
>>> thing,
>>> I have no room for it. For another, if I put it in there, I will never
>>> take
>>> it out to defrost it. And I hate microwave defrosting. I have had to
>>> live
>>> in places where I was forced to freeze meat. I just plain don't like
>>> it. I
>>> don't like to do it and I don't like the end results. Might be easy.
>>> But
>>> easy isn't always good.
>>
>> Unbelievable. No wonder your mom insists on eating at a restaurant
>> when you are with her.
>>
> I don't understand this at all. She had room enough to cook and freeze
> some things before she went to the hospital. Yet she has no room to
> freeze raw meat.

How many freaking times must I say it!!! I don't like to freeze raw meat.
I don't care if my freezer was empty, I wouldn't want to do it. I was fine
with the raw turkey breast from Schwans. Just heat and eat. But... I was
the only one who liked it but I didn't like it any better than canned turkey
so... Won't buy it again.
>
> As for defrosting, it's been discussed many times over the years. Place
> the (wrapped) frozen meat in a pan of *cold* water. It will thaw out very
> quickly. All that is required is a little advance planning. Of course
> that won't satisfy the guy with the "must have dinner NOW" mentality.
> Everyone knows how I feel about that particular attitude.

Right. And that's something I won't do. I do advance plan meals sometimes.
But I can't always do that. I also am surrounded by grocery stores, some of
which sell really good meat. I can buy it as needed. The things I do
stockpile are canned goods, pasta and other things that will keep for long
periods of time. This allows me to buy them when I find good deals on them.

Me? I could live without meat. I have. I do try to eat some twice a week
or so just so I don't go anemic. That may not even be an issue for me now
given menopause. Angela doesn't eat much meat either. So of all the foods
that come into our house, meat is something I buy in much lesser quantities.
I might buy 2-3 packages a week but I also usually have something like
sausages or ham that will keep for a while. And I always have canned
turkey, chicken and tuna.

Now I suppose if I could find some sort of super good deals on meat, then I
might freeze it like I used to. But I don't. Once in a while I will find a
package or two of muchly marked down meat. Usually small packages and just
enough for a meal. If I see those and I have nothing planned for dinner
that night, I might buy them. But in general, the price of meat is not
something I even think about. I usually buy the pricier kind such as grass
fed beef. This was an exception because it was an online order, placed just
after I got out of the hospital and wasn't thinking clearly.

No comment about the meat. I served some last night. I would have heard
comments if it was truly outstanding or really bad. He ate all that was on
his plate. I will make the pork chops tonight and probably a different
side. That way there will be leftover meat and potatoes and whatever other
side because I may not be here on Wed. at dinner time. I have my follow-up
from my surgery. Oh snap! Just realized that I failed to serve the garlic
green beans that I bought. I just looked up what all they put in my IV or
injected me with for the surgery and I think those things took part of my
mind away. Either that or it's because my thyroid is not in range. I am
having a severe failure to remember stuff.

The other two packages do not expire until Feb. 2. That gives me plenty
enough time to cook them and not involve the freezer. I do have two ham
steaks to use up soon. I don't mind putting those in the freezer if need
be. They're flat, don't take up much room and can easily be reheated from
the frozen state in a matter of minutes. I probably won't be buying any
more meat for the rest of this month except for some chicken that Angela
asked for, if they have it in stock. It is precooked and I probably will
buy one of those for the freezer because I don't intend to go to the store
that sells it for a long time, unless I have to have an other visit to that
Drs. office. The Super Walmart is on my way home from there.

On 2016-01-19 11:06 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> As for defrosting, it's been discussed many times over the years. Place
> the (wrapped) frozen meat in a pan of *cold* water. It will thaw out
> very quickly. All that is required is a little advance planning. Of
> course that won't satisfy the guy with the "must have dinner NOW"
> mentality. Everyone knows how I feel about that particular attitude.
>

Consider the source. She likes to bitch and moan about her husband and
their spawn but will then try to say she never said those things. We
have only hear word about his nature but we have seen enough of her
shenanigans here, so we can only imagine what he has had to deal with.