"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:44:44 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me that she
>>wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to learn. She also
>>said
>>that we need to buy more vegetables. I think this might be hard to do as
>>those are the food that I buy the most of but... I told her when we go
>>shopping tomorrow, she can pick some out.
>>
>>Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
>
> It'll last maybe a few hours, until you wake up from your drug induced
> stupor and realize you were dreaming... the ONLY way your daughter

As did your Christmas goodwill I see.

Cheri

Cheri wrote:
>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:44:44 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me that she
>>> wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to learn. She
>>> also said
>>> that we need to buy more vegetables. I think this might be hard to
>>> do as
>>> those are the food that I buy the most of but... I told her when we go
>>> shopping tomorrow, she can pick some out.
>>>
>>> Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
>>
>> It'll last maybe a few hours, until you wake up from your drug induced
>> stupor and realize you were dreaming... the ONLY way your daughter
>
> As did your Christmas goodwill I see.
>
> Cheri

An ugly drunk is the worst kind.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:44:44 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me that she
>>>wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to learn. She also
>>>said
>>>that we need to buy more vegetables. I think this might be hard to do as
>>>those are the food that I buy the most of but... I told her when we go
>>>shopping tomorrow, she can pick some out.
>>>
>>>Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
>>
>> It'll last maybe a few hours, until you wake up from your drug induced
>> stupor and realize you were dreaming... the ONLY way your daughter
>
> As did your Christmas goodwill I see.

I don't even know who posted that or why they would think I use drugs.
That's rather sickening.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:44:44 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me that she
>>>> wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to learn. She
>>>> also said
>>>> that we need to buy more vegetables. I think this might be hard to
>>>> do as
>>>> those are the food that I buy the most of but... I told her when we go
>>>> shopping tomorrow, she can pick some out.
>>>>
>>>> Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
>>>
>>> It'll last maybe a few hours, until you wake up from your drug induced
>>> stupor and realize you were dreaming... the ONLY way your daughter
>>
>> As did your Christmas goodwill I see.
>
> I don't even know who posted that or why they would think I use drugs.
> That's rather sickening.

That good 'ol rfc for ya, now innit?

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:44:44 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me that she
>>>>wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to learn. She also
>>>>said
>>>>that we need to buy more vegetables. I think this might be hard to do
>>>>as
>>>>those are the food that I buy the most of but... I told her when we go
>>>>shopping tomorrow, she can pick some out.
>>>>
>>>>Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
>>>
>>> It'll last maybe a few hours, until you wake up from your drug induced
>>> stupor and realize you were dreaming... the ONLY way your daughter
>>
>> As did your Christmas goodwill I see.
>
> I don't even know who posted that or why they would think I use drugs.
> That's rather sickening.

Sheldon of course.

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:44:44 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me that she
>>>>>wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to learn. She also
>>>>>said
>>>>>that we need to buy more vegetables. I think this might be hard to do
>>>>>as
>>>>>those are the food that I buy the most of but... I told her when we go
>>>>>shopping tomorrow, she can pick some out.
>>>>>
>>>>>Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
>>>>
>>>> It'll last maybe a few hours, until you wake up from your drug induced
>>>> stupor and realize you were dreaming... the ONLY way your daughter
>>>
>>> As did your Christmas goodwill I see.
>>
>> I don't even know who posted that or why they would think I use drugs.
>> That's rather sickening.
>
> Sheldon of course.

Ew.

On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:55:17 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:44:44 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me that she
>>wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to learn. She also said
>>that we need to buy more vegetables. I think this might be hard to do as
>>those are the food that I buy the most of but... I told her when we go
>>shopping tomorrow, she can pick some out.
>>
>>Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
>
>It'll last maybe a few hours, until you wake up

Is there a single day of the year when you manage to be nice??

I hope you are having a rotten time, lousy food and everyone is
ignoring you.

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:55:17 -0500, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:44:44 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
> >
> > > But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me
> > > that she wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to
> > > learn. She also said that we need to buy more vegetables. I
> > > think this might be hard to do as those are the food that I buy
> > > the most of but... I told her when we go shopping tomorrow, she
> > > can pick some out.
> > >
> > > Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
> >
> > It'll last maybe a few hours, until you wake up
>
> Is there a single day of the year when you manage to be nice??
>
> I hope you are having a rotten time, lousy food and everyone is
> ignoring you.

Sheldon was probably alone with his cats for Christmas. That may be
true of many here but he tends to get mean about it.

Meantime, I am happy for Julie's hopes and even if it doesn't pan out,
passed my best wishes and hopes that it will work a bit for them.

LOL, I see one of the blocked trolls kicked in on my reply to Julie but
well, thats to be expected these days.

Carol

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cshenk wrote:
> LOL, I see one of the blocked trolls kicked in on my reply to Julie but
> well, thats to be expected these days.

As too your fixation with deploying the 3rd party snark, personal
cowardice preventing any direct engagement.

On 12/26/2015 11:55 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:44:44 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me that she
>> wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to learn. She also said
>> that we need to buy more vegetables. I think this might be hard to do as
>> those are the food that I buy the most of but... I told her when we go
>> shopping tomorrow, she can pick some out.
>>
>> Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
>
> It'll last maybe a few hours, until you wake up from your drug induced
> stupor and realize you were dreaming... the ONLY way your daughter
> will become a responsible adult is when she separates from her
> enablers, you and her absentee father... I'd bet my bippee she's never
> even scooped a cat litter pan. What is she, about seventeen going on
> eighteen...
(snippage)

I think most of us agree, but hey, she'll be quick to say she didn't ask
our opinions.

It's clear to me she's stepping in the way. According to her own post
it's hard for her to let her daughter pick out vegetables. She said as
much. I have no idea why. If I was the daughter, who has allegedly
accompanied her on so many trips to do the shopping, I'd just hop in my
own car (which her parents bought her) and go shopping without mom.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> I think most of us agree, but hey, she'll be quick to say she didn't ask
> our opinions.


The bully bitch sistas are back in bidnits...

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/26/2015 11:55 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:44:44 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me that she
>>> wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to learn. She also
>>> said
>>> that we need to buy more vegetables. I think this might be hard to do
>>> as
>>> those are the food that I buy the most of but... I told her when we go
>>> shopping tomorrow, she can pick some out.
>>>
>>> Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
>>
>> It'll last maybe a few hours, until you wake up from your drug induced
>> stupor and realize you were dreaming... the ONLY way your daughter
>> will become a responsible adult is when she separates from her
>> enablers, you and her absentee father... I'd bet my bippee she's never
>> even scooped a cat litter pan. What is she, about seventeen going on
>> eighteen...
> (snippage)
>
> I think most of us agree, but hey, she'll be quick to say she didn't ask
> our opinions.
>
> It's clear to me she's stepping in the way. According to her own post
> it's hard for her to let her daughter pick out vegetables. She said as
> much. I have no idea why. If I was the daughter, who has allegedly
> accompanied her on so many trips to do the shopping, I'd just hop in my
> own car (which her parents bought her) and go shopping without mom.

You are wacked. I didn't say that at all. I have all sorts of vegetables
here already so I have no clue what she meant by "Could she buy vegetables."

And why should she have to spend her own money on food? She's still a
minor. I won't have money to spend on food until next year. Yes, I have
money but it is earmarked for other things. We have plenty of food in the
house. Fridge is pretty full. Freezers are totally full as are any other
places around the house where we store food. So whatever she thinks she
wants to do will have to wait until next year.

Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me that
> she wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to learn.
> She also said that we need to buy more vegetables. I think this
> might be hard to do as those are the food that I buy the most of
> but... I told her when we go shopping tomorrow, she can pick some
> out.
>
> Now... Let's just see if this lasts.

Thats good Julie!

From experience with this, a good way to start is to have her look at
some of the simpler recipes. Need not be something you make often (or
ever) but let her pick something that appeals and that other than you
helping chop, she feels like she can make.

Since your family is used to making different dishes for a meal based
on who eats what, it's a good thing to let her make something she
thinks she will like even if no one else is likely to to have picked it.

What I find is in most families, there is one primary cook, and others
maybe pinch hit a bit with certain items. (Like, Daddy does the
grilling, Mom cooks most other things). If kids do not start young in
the kitchen, they tend to be intimidated by it all. That almost
happened to Charlotte because Don and I are good cooks.

Once we realized it, we had her in a cooking class (HS Home Ec type but
just cooking) and told the instructor on the side privately that we'd
intimidated her but she had the background. Charlotte made straight
A's and started getting cookbooks of things *she* wanted to try. A
symptom of this is her cookbooks are German, Polish, Russian,
Scandinavian and a nifty one all about Udon/Noodle soups.

Charlotte now is 22 and still doesn't cook as often as Don and I do,
but her miso-dashi-udon soups are supurb and she has many variations
that span off that and are all fantastic. She's also great at comming
up with uses for leftover chicken. We had a Scandinavian sort of
'wrap' earlier this week. That was a keeper for all of us.

So the point is, give her her own zone to work within. You are dead on
right to let her select some veggies and other things she wants to try.
If she has a rough idea of what she wants to do with them, all the
better as you can make sure you have the stuff.

Charlotte and I are making a grocery trip tomorrow. Mostly fresh veggie
run but there's a good sale on fresh wild caught tuna and a decent one
on cleaned crab. Charlotte is looking up a crabcake recipe she wants
to try and listing what she needs to try making them. I've never made
them but she's happily pulling various spices to the side.

I'll post more as our trip develops.

Carol

--

cshenk wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me that
>> she wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to learn.
>> She also said that we need to buy more vegetables. I think this
>> might be hard to do as those are the food that I buy the most of
>> but... I told her when we go shopping tomorrow, she can pick some
>> out.
>>
>> Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
>
> Thats good Julie!
>
> From experience with this, a good way to start is

At this point you should get up from the 'puter, and find something ELSE
to do.

The officiously 'well meaning' experts have descended upon you.

And frankly you know how you hate to be told what to do.

None of these k00ks, let alone the Sqwerty-enabling ex-Navy bossy lady
has a freaking clue what you need to do within your own family.

"el dia del Cristo" > wrote in message
...
> cshenk wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me that
>>> she wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to learn.
>>> She also said that we need to buy more vegetables. I think this
>>> might be hard to do as those are the food that I buy the most of
>>> but... I told her when we go shopping tomorrow, she can pick some
>>> out.
>>>
>>> Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
>>
>> Thats good Julie!
>>
>> From experience with this, a good way to start is
>
> At this point you should get up from the 'puter, and find something ELSE
> to do.
>
> The officiously 'well meaning' experts have descended upon you.
>
> And frankly you know how you hate to be told what to do.
>
> None of these k00ks, let alone the Sqwerty-enabling ex-Navy bossy lady has
> a freaking clue what you need to do within your own family.

Yeah. I don't get that. I don't go around offering advice to people. And
I was not only the sewing but the cooking Home Ec assistant when I was in
the 9th grade. I know how to tell people to cook. And at this point it
would be mostly just telling her. She has watched me enough and she knows
how to prep pretty much anything. She had just had a fear of the stove and
oven until recently.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "el dia del Cristo" > wrote in message
> ...
>> cshenk wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me that
>>>> she wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to learn.
>>>> She also said that we need to buy more vegetables. I think this
>>>> might be hard to do as those are the food that I buy the most of
>>>> but... I told her when we go shopping tomorrow, she can pick some
>>>> out.
>>>>
>>>> Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
>>>
>>> Thats good Julie!
>>>
>>> From experience with this, a good way to start is
>>
>> At this point you should get up from the 'puter, and find something
>> ELSE to do.
>>
>> The officiously 'well meaning' experts have descended upon you.
>>
>> And frankly you know how you hate to be told what to do.
>>
>> None of these k00ks, let alone the Sqwerty-enabling ex-Navy bossy lady
>> has a freaking clue what you need to do within your own family.
>
> Yeah. I don't get that. I don't go around offering advice to people.

That's a fact.

> And I was not only the sewing but the cooking Home Ec assistant when I
> was in the 9th grade. I know how to tell people to cook. And at this
> point it would be mostly just telling her. She has watched me enough
> and she knows how to prep pretty much anything. She had just had a fear
> of the stove and oven until recently.

All good thing in their time, you two enjoy.

;-)

Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "el dia del Cristo" > wrote in message
> ...
> > cshenk wrote:
> > > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > >
> > > > But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me
> > > > that she wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to
> > > > learn. She also said that we need to buy more vegetables. I
> > > > think this might be hard to do as those are the food that I buy
> > > > the most of but... I told her when we go shopping tomorrow,
> > > > she can pick some out.
> > > >
> > > > Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
> > >
> > > Thats good Julie!
> > >
> >> From experience with this, a good way to start is
> >
> > At this point you should get up from the 'puter, and find something
> > ELSE to do.
> >
> > The officiously 'well meaning' experts have descended upon you.
> >
> > And frankly you know how you hate to be told what to do.
> >
> > None of these k00ks, let alone the Sqwerty-enabling ex-Navy bossy
> > lady has a freaking clue what you need to do within your own
> > family.
>
> Yeah. I don't get that. I don't go around offering advice to
> people. And I was not only the sewing but the cooking Home Ec
> assistant when I was in the 9th grade. I know how to tell people to
> cook. And at this point it would be mostly just telling her. She
> has watched me enough and she knows how to prep pretty much anything.
> She had just had a fear of the stove and oven until recently.

Julie, you are talking to one of the spammers in KF by almost all
others. Thats your right but please keep helping your daughter
regardless of this spammer's opinion.



--

cshenk wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "el dia del Cristo" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> cshenk wrote:
>>>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>>> But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me
>>>>> that she wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to
>>>>> learn. She also said that we need to buy more vegetables. I
>>>>> think this might be hard to do as those are the food that I buy
>>>>> the most of but... I told her when we go shopping tomorrow,
>>>>> she can pick some out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
>>>>
>>>> Thats good Julie!
>>>>
>>>> From experience with this, a good way to start is
>>>
>>> At this point you should get up from the 'puter, and find something
>>> ELSE to do.
>>>
>>> The officiously 'well meaning' experts have descended upon you.
>>>
>>> And frankly you know how you hate to be told what to do.
>>>
>>> None of these k00ks, let alone the Sqwerty-enabling ex-Navy bossy
>>> lady has a freaking clue what you need to do within your own
>>> family.
>>
>> Yeah. I don't get that. I don't go around offering advice to
>> people. And I was not only the sewing but the cooking Home Ec
>> assistant when I was in the 9th grade. I know how to tell people to
>> cook. And at this point it would be mostly just telling her. She
>> has watched me enough and she knows how to prep pretty much anything.
>> She had just had a fear of the stove and oven until recently.
>
> Julie, you are talking to one of the spammers in KF by almost all
> others. Thats your right but please keep helping your daughter
> regardless of this spammer's opinion.
>
>
>

Caril, you actively help her long time stalker Sqwerty.

Feel free to **** the Hell off and try to be someone who advances the IQ
of the group, not lowers it.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "el dia del Cristo" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > cshenk wrote:
>> > > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> > >
>> > > > But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me
>> > > > that she wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to
>> > > > learn. She also said that we need to buy more vegetables. I
>> > > > think this might be hard to do as those are the food that I buy
>> > > > the most of but... I told her when we go shopping tomorrow,
>> > > > she can pick some out.
>> > > >
>> > > > Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
>> > >
>> > > Thats good Julie!
>> > >
>> >> From experience with this, a good way to start is
>> >
>> > At this point you should get up from the 'puter, and find something
>> > ELSE to do.
>> >
>> > The officiously 'well meaning' experts have descended upon you.
>> >
>> > And frankly you know how you hate to be told what to do.
>> >
>> > None of these k00ks, let alone the Sqwerty-enabling ex-Navy bossy
>> > lady has a freaking clue what you need to do within your own
>> > family.
>>
>> Yeah. I don't get that. I don't go around offering advice to
>> people. And I was not only the sewing but the cooking Home Ec
>> assistant when I was in the 9th grade. I know how to tell people to
>> cook. And at this point it would be mostly just telling her. She
>> has watched me enough and she knows how to prep pretty much anything.
>> She had just had a fear of the stove and oven until recently.
>
> Julie, you are talking to one of the spammers in KF by almost all
> others. Thats your right but please keep helping your daughter
> regardless of this spammer's opinion.

A spammer? I don't think that's the word. I think you mean troll. A
spammer is trying to sell us stuff. I know we have nym shifters. I get
sick of KFing. I just did clean out my file because of an Amazon saga that
I likely won't get into here, even though it was food related.

I just figure if the nym shifter is playing nice and posting on topic, then
I might reply. But if things start getting bad, then I may use the KF.

On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:15:06 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

> Since your family is used to making different dishes for a meal based
> on who eats what, it's a good thing to let her make something she
> thinks she will like even if no one else is likely to to have picked it.

Yes! She can take on that responsibility at the very least. Plus,
she can learn to grocery shop for herself with a set budget.

--

sf

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:15:06 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> Since your family is used to making different dishes for a meal based
>> on who eats what, it's a good thing to let her make something she
>> thinks she will like even if no one else is likely to to have picked it.
>
> Yes! She can take on that responsibility at the very least. Plus,
> she can learn to grocery shop for herself with a set budget.

She already knows how to shop.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:15:06 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>>> Since your family is used to making different dishes for a meal based
>>> on who eats what, it's a good thing to let her make something she
>>> thinks she will like even if no one else is likely to to have picked it.
>>
>> Yes! She can take on that responsibility at the very least. Plus,
>> she can learn to grocery shop for herself with a set budget.
>
> She already knows how to shop.

I'm thinking most females do...

;-)

On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 14:00:12 -0700, el dia del Cristo >
wrote:

> Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > "sf" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:15:06 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Since your family is used to making different dishes for a meal based
> >>> on who eats what, it's a good thing to let her make something she
> >>> thinks she will like even if no one else is likely to to have picked it.
> >>
> >> Yes! She can take on that responsibility at the very least. Plus,
> >> she can learn to grocery shop for herself with a set budget.
> >
> > She already knows how to shop.
>
> I'm thinking most females do...
>
> ;-)

Shopping is one thing, grocery shopping and especially doing it on a
budget is an entirely different kettle of fish.

--

sf

"el dia del Cristo" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:15:06 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since your family is used to making different dishes for a meal based
>>>> on who eats what, it's a good thing to let her make something she
>>>> thinks she will like even if no one else is likely to to have picked
>>>> it.
>>>
>>> Yes! She can take on that responsibility at the very least. Plus,
>>> she can learn to grocery shop for herself with a set budget.
>>
>> She already knows how to shop.
>
> I'm thinking most females do...
>
> ;-)

Not necessarily. I can think of one who doesn't. My dad was the shopper in
my family.

sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:15:06 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > Since your family is used to making different dishes for a meal
> > based on who eats what, it's a good thing to let her make something
> > she thinks she will like even if no one else is likely to to have
> > picked it.
>
> Yes! She can take on that responsibility at the very least. Plus,
> she can learn to grocery shop for herself with a set budget.

Smile, true but we have no reason to assume Julie's daughter doesnt
know shopping (at least to the level that Julie does).

My daughter DOES know shopping well. Julie's may as well. It's true
though that teaching true shopping habits and cost savings is a big bit
of why the current kids can't make ends meet.

--

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:15:06 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>> > Since your family is used to making different dishes for a meal
>> > based on who eats what, it's a good thing to let her make something
>> > she thinks she will like even if no one else is likely to to have
>> > picked it.
>>
>> Yes! She can take on that responsibility at the very least. Plus,
>> she can learn to grocery shop for herself with a set budget.
>
> Smile, true but we have no reason to assume Julie's daughter doesnt
> know shopping (at least to the level that Julie does).
>
> My daughter DOES know shopping well. Julie's may as well. It's true
> though that teaching true shopping habits and cost savings is a big bit
> of why the current kids can't make ends meet.

She knows how to shop and use coupons. And now thanks to some gift cards,
she knows how to online shop. She was getting overwhelmed by the choices so
I showed her how to make a wish list.

Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >>On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:15:06 -0600, "cshenk" >
> wrote:
> > >
> >>> Since your family is used to making different dishes for a meal
> >>> based on who eats what, it's a good thing to let her make
> something >>> she thinks she will like even if no one else is likely
> to to have >>> picked it.
> > >
> > > Yes! She can take on that responsibility at the very least.
> > > Plus, she can learn to grocery shop for herself with a set budget.
> >
> > Smile, true but we have no reason to assume Julie's daughter doesnt
> > know shopping (at least to the level that Julie does).
> >
> > My daughter DOES know shopping well. Julie's may as well. It's
> > true though that teaching true shopping habits and cost savings is
> > a big bit of why the current kids can't make ends meet.
>
> She knows how to shop and use coupons. And now thanks to some gift
> cards, she knows how to online shop. She was getting overwhelmed by
> the choices so I showed her how to make a wish list.

You will note Julie that my comment was not about you or your daughter.

Carol

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"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me that
>> she wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to learn.
>> She also said that we need to buy more vegetables. I think this
>> might be hard to do as those are the food that I buy the most of
>> but... I told her when we go shopping tomorrow, she can pick some
>> out.
>>
>> Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
>
> Thats good Julie!
>
> From experience with this, a good way to start is to have her look at
> some of the simpler recipes. Need not be something you make often (or
> ever) but let her pick something that appeals and that other than you
> helping chop, she feels like she can make.
>
> Since your family is used to making different dishes for a meal based
> on who eats what, it's a good thing to let her make something she
> thinks she will like even if no one else is likely to to have picked it.
>
> What I find is in most families, there is one primary cook, and others
> maybe pinch hit a bit with certain items. (Like, Daddy does the
> grilling, Mom cooks most other things). If kids do not start young in
> the kitchen, they tend to be intimidated by it all. That almost
> happened to Charlotte because Don and I are good cooks.
>
> Once we realized it, we had her in a cooking class (HS Home Ec type but
> just cooking) and told the instructor on the side privately that we'd
> intimidated her but she had the background. Charlotte made straight
> A's and started getting cookbooks of things *she* wanted to try. A
> symptom of this is her cookbooks are German, Polish, Russian,
> Scandinavian and a nifty one all about Udon/Noodle soups.
>
> Charlotte now is 22 and still doesn't cook as often as Don and I do,
> but her miso-dashi-udon soups are supurb and she has many variations
> that span off that and are all fantastic. She's also great at comming
> up with uses for leftover chicken. We had a Scandinavian sort of
> 'wrap' earlier this week. That was a keeper for all of us.
>
> So the point is, give her her own zone to work within. You are dead on
> right to let her select some veggies and other things she wants to try.
> If she has a rough idea of what she wants to do with them, all the
> better as you can make sure you have the stuff.
>
> Charlotte and I are making a grocery trip tomorrow. Mostly fresh veggie
> run but there's a good sale on fresh wild caught tuna and a decent one
> on cleaned crab. Charlotte is looking up a crabcake recipe she wants
> to try and listing what she needs to try making them. I've never made
> them but she's happily pulling various spices to the side.
>
> I'll post more as our trip develops.

If I can get her out of the shower, I will let her pick what she wants when
we go shopping. However, I think the bulk of our groceries today will be
purchased at Target so that will be a tad limiting. Won't be able to do a
big shop elsewhere until next year. One can make a meal from Target food
but you just never know what they might have. Each shopping trip is
different. And while they do sell fresh produce, it's not a large
selection.

Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me
> > > that she wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to
> > > learn. She also said that we need to buy more vegetables. I
> > > think this might be hard to do as those are the food that I buy
> > > the most of but... I told her when we go shopping tomorrow, she
> > > can pick some out.
> > >
> > > Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
> >
> > Thats good Julie!
> >
> > From experience with this, a good way to start is to have her look
> > at some of the simpler recipes. Need not be something you make
> > often (or ever) but let her pick something that appeals and that
> > other than you helping chop, she feels like she can make.
> >
> > Since your family is used to making different dishes for a meal
> > based on who eats what, it's a good thing to let her make something
> > she thinks she will like even if no one else is likely to to have
> > picked it.
> >
> > What I find is in most families, there is one primary cook, and
> > others maybe pinch hit a bit with certain items. (Like, Daddy does
> > the grilling, Mom cooks most other things). If kids do not start
> > young in the kitchen, they tend to be intimidated by it all. That
> > almost happened to Charlotte because Don and I are good cooks.
> >
> > Once we realized it, we had her in a cooking class (HS Home Ec type
> > but just cooking) and told the instructor on the side privately
> > that we'd intimidated her but she had the background. Charlotte
> > made straight A's and started getting cookbooks of things she
> > wanted to try. A symptom of this is her cookbooks are German,
> > Polish, Russian, Scandinavian and a nifty one all about Udon/Noodle
> > soups.
> >
> > Charlotte now is 22 and still doesn't cook as often as Don and I do,
> > but her miso-dashi-udon soups are supurb and she has many variations
> > that span off that and are all fantastic. She's also great at
> > comming up with uses for leftover chicken. We had a Scandinavian
> > sort of 'wrap' earlier this week. That was a keeper for all of us.
> >
> > So the point is, give her her own zone to work within. You are
> > dead on right to let her select some veggies and other things she
> > wants to try. If she has a rough idea of what she wants to do with
> > them, all the better as you can make sure you have the stuff.
> >
> > Charlotte and I are making a grocery trip tomorrow. Mostly fresh
> > veggie run but there's a good sale on fresh wild caught tuna and a
> > decent one on cleaned crab. Charlotte is looking up a crabcake
> > recipe she wants to try and listing what she needs to try making
> > them. I've never made them but she's happily pulling various
> > spices to the side.
> >
> > I'll post more as our trip develops.
>
> If I can get her out of the shower, I will let her pick what she
> wants when we go shopping. However, I think the bulk of our
> groceries today will be purchased at Target so that will be a tad
> limiting. Won't be able to do a big shop elsewhere until next year.
> One can make a meal from Target food but you just never know what
> they might have. Each shopping trip is different. And while they do
> sell fresh produce, it's not a large selection.

Even within the limts you have there, let her spread her wings and try.

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"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >
>> > > But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me
>> > > that she wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to
>> > > learn. She also said that we need to buy more vegetables. I
>> > > think this might be hard to do as those are the food that I buy
>> > > the most of but... I told her when we go shopping tomorrow, she
>> > > can pick some out.
>> > >
>> > > Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
>> >
>> > Thats good Julie!
>> >
>> > From experience with this, a good way to start is to have her look
>> > at some of the simpler recipes. Need not be something you make
>> > often (or ever) but let her pick something that appeals and that
>> > other than you helping chop, she feels like she can make.
>> >
>> > Since your family is used to making different dishes for a meal
>> > based on who eats what, it's a good thing to let her make something
>> > she thinks she will like even if no one else is likely to to have
>> > picked it.
>> >
>> > What I find is in most families, there is one primary cook, and
>> > others maybe pinch hit a bit with certain items. (Like, Daddy does
>> > the grilling, Mom cooks most other things). If kids do not start
>> > young in the kitchen, they tend to be intimidated by it all. That
>> > almost happened to Charlotte because Don and I are good cooks.
>> >
>> > Once we realized it, we had her in a cooking class (HS Home Ec type
>> > but just cooking) and told the instructor on the side privately
>> > that we'd intimidated her but she had the background. Charlotte
>> > made straight A's and started getting cookbooks of things she
>> > wanted to try. A symptom of this is her cookbooks are German,
>> > Polish, Russian, Scandinavian and a nifty one all about Udon/Noodle
>> > soups.
>> >
>> > Charlotte now is 22 and still doesn't cook as often as Don and I do,
>> > but her miso-dashi-udon soups are supurb and she has many variations
>> > that span off that and are all fantastic. She's also great at
>> > comming up with uses for leftover chicken. We had a Scandinavian
>> > sort of 'wrap' earlier this week. That was a keeper for all of us.
>> >
>> > So the point is, give her her own zone to work within. You are
>> > dead on right to let her select some veggies and other things she
>> > wants to try. If she has a rough idea of what she wants to do with
>> > them, all the better as you can make sure you have the stuff.
>> >
>> > Charlotte and I are making a grocery trip tomorrow. Mostly fresh
>> > veggie run but there's a good sale on fresh wild caught tuna and a
>> > decent one on cleaned crab. Charlotte is looking up a crabcake
>> > recipe she wants to try and listing what she needs to try making
>> > them. I've never made them but she's happily pulling various
>> > spices to the side.
>> >
>> > I'll post more as our trip develops.
>>
>> If I can get her out of the shower, I will let her pick what she
>> wants when we go shopping. However, I think the bulk of our
>> groceries today will be purchased at Target so that will be a tad
>> limiting. Won't be able to do a big shop elsewhere until next year.
>> One can make a meal from Target food but you just never know what
>> they might have. Each shopping trip is different. And while they do
>> sell fresh produce, it's not a large selection.
>
> Even within the limts you have there, let her spread her wings and try.

Very slim pickings there. We got a very long cucumber and some carrots.
They only had about a 60" section of refrigerated veggies and most of those
things were ready to eat things.

Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > >
> >>"cshenk" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> >>> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > >
> >>> > But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me
> >>> > that she wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to
> >>> > learn. She also said that we need to buy more vegetables. I
> >>> > think this might be hard to do as those are the food that I buy
> >>> > the most of but... I told her when we go shopping tomorrow, she
> >>> > can pick some out.
> >>> >
> >>> > Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
> > > >
> >>> Thats good Julie!
> > > >
> >>> From experience with this, a good way to start is to have her look
> >>> at some of the simpler recipes. Need not be something you make
> >>> often (or ever) but let her pick something that appeals and that
> >>> other than you helping chop, she feels like she can make.
> > > >
> >>> Since your family is used to making different dishes for a meal
> >>> based on who eats what, it's a good thing to let her make
> something >>> she thinks she will like even if no one else is likely
> to to have >>> picked it.
> > > >
> >>> What I find is in most families, there is one primary cook, and
> >>> others maybe pinch hit a bit with certain items. (Like, Daddy
> does >>> the grilling, Mom cooks most other things). If kids do not
> start >>> young in the kitchen, they tend to be intimidated by it
> all. That >>> almost happened to Charlotte because Don and I are
> good cooks.
> > > >
> >>> Once we realized it, we had her in a cooking class (HS Home Ec
> type >>> but just cooking) and told the instructor on the side
> privately >>> that we'd intimidated her but she had the background.
> Charlotte >>> made straight A's and started getting cookbooks of
> things she >>> wanted to try. A symptom of this is her cookbooks are
> German, >>> Polish, Russian, Scandinavian and a nifty one all about
> Udon/Noodle >>> soups.
> > > >
> >>> Charlotte now is 22 and still doesn't cook as often as Don and I
> do, >>> but her miso-dashi-udon soups are supurb and she has many
> variations >>> that span off that and are all fantastic. She's also
> great at >>> comming up with uses for leftover chicken. We had a
> Scandinavian >>> sort of 'wrap' earlier this week. That was a keeper
> for all of us.
> > > >
> >>> So the point is, give her her own zone to work within. You are
> >>> dead on right to let her select some veggies and other things she
> >>> wants to try. If she has a rough idea of what she wants to do
> with >>> them, all the better as you can make sure you have the stuff.
> > > >
> >>> Charlotte and I are making a grocery trip tomorrow. Mostly fresh
> >>> veggie run but there's a good sale on fresh wild caught tuna and a
> >>> decent one on cleaned crab. Charlotte is looking up a crabcake
> >>> recipe she wants to try and listing what she needs to try making
> >>> them. I've never made them but she's happily pulling various
> >>> spices to the side.
> > > >
> >>> I'll post more as our trip develops.
> > >
> > > If I can get her out of the shower, I will let her pick what she
> > > wants when we go shopping. However, I think the bulk of our
> > > groceries today will be purchased at Target so that will be a tad
> > > limiting. Won't be able to do a big shop elsewhere until next
> > > year. One can make a meal from Target food but you just never
> > > know what they might have. Each shopping trip is different. And
> > > while they do sell fresh produce, it's not a large selection.
> >
> > Even within the limts you have there, let her spread her wings and
> > try.
>
> Very slim pickings there. We got a very long cucumber and some
> carrots. They only had about a 60" section of refrigerated veggies
> and most of those things were ready to eat things.

Ah well, sounds like you found an english cucucmber though. Nubbier ut
ot much different.

Carol

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Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me
> > > that she wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to
> > > learn. She also said that we need to buy more vegetables. I
> > > think this might be hard to do as those are the food that I buy
> > > the most of but... I told her when we go shopping tomorrow, she
> > > can pick some out.
> > >
> > > Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
> >
> > Thats good Julie!
> >
> > From experience with this, a good way to start is to have her look
> > at some of the simpler recipes. Need not be something you make
> > often (or ever) but let her pick something that appeals and that
> > other than you helping chop, she feels like she can make.
> >
> > Since your family is used to making different dishes for a meal
> > based on who eats what, it's a good thing to let her make something
> > she thinks she will like even if no one else is likely to to have
> > picked it.
> >
> > What I find is in most families, there is one primary cook, and
> > others maybe pinch hit a bit with certain items. (Like, Daddy does
> > the grilling, Mom cooks most other things). If kids do not start
> > young in the kitchen, they tend to be intimidated by it all. That
> > almost happened to Charlotte because Don and I are good cooks.
> >
> > Once we realized it, we had her in a cooking class (HS Home Ec type
> > but just cooking) and told the instructor on the side privately
> > that we'd intimidated her but she had the background. Charlotte
> > made straight A's and started getting cookbooks of things she
> > wanted to try. A symptom of this is her cookbooks are German,
> > Polish, Russian, Scandinavian and a nifty one all about Udon/Noodle
> > soups.
> >
> > Charlotte now is 22 and still doesn't cook as often as Don and I do,
> > but her miso-dashi-udon soups are supurb and she has many variations
> > that span off that and are all fantastic. She's also great at
> > comming up with uses for leftover chicken. We had a Scandinavian
> > sort of 'wrap' earlier this week. That was a keeper for all of us.
> >
> > So the point is, give her her own zone to work within. You are
> > dead on right to let her select some veggies and other things she
> > wants to try. If she has a rough idea of what she wants to do with
> > them, all the better as you can make sure you have the stuff.
> >
> > Charlotte and I are making a grocery trip tomorrow. Mostly fresh
> > veggie run but there's a good sale on fresh wild caught tuna and a
> > decent one on cleaned crab. Charlotte is looking up a crabcake
> > recipe she wants to try and listing what she needs to try making
> > them. I've never made them but she's happily pulling various
> > spices to the side.
> >
> > I'll post more as our trip develops.
>
> If I can get her out of the shower, I will let her pick what she
> wants when we go shopping. However, I think the bulk of our
> groceries today will be purchased at Target so that will be a tad
> limiting. Won't be able to do a big shop elsewhere until next year.
> One can make a meal from Target food but you just never know what
> they might have. Each shopping trip is different. And while they do
> sell fresh produce, it's not a large selection.

Hi Julie, I meant to say more but got carried away with dinner plans
and such.

I have never shopped for groceries at Target but then, there isn't one
near me and last time I was in one, they didnt have much in the way of
groceries. That could well be an area thing. There was a local
Wal-Mart that had good stuff but the main owner (Sam) died and the
local manager quit over changes so the produce, while it looks pretty,
is apt to spoil almost same day gotten home in the fridge now. We
don't get other than canned or dry goods at Wal-Mart now and seldom
those unless we are looking for something else and happen to be short
an item.

Carol

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"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >
>> > > But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me
>> > > that she wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to
>> > > learn. She also said that we need to buy more vegetables. I
>> > > think this might be hard to do as those are the food that I buy
>> > > the most of but... I told her when we go shopping tomorrow, she
>> > > can pick some out.
>> > >
>> > > Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
>> >
>> > Thats good Julie!
>> >
>> > From experience with this, a good way to start is to have her look
>> > at some of the simpler recipes. Need not be something you make
>> > often (or ever) but let her pick something that appeals and that
>> > other than you helping chop, she feels like she can make.
>> >
>> > Since your family is used to making different dishes for a meal
>> > based on who eats what, it's a good thing to let her make something
>> > she thinks she will like even if no one else is likely to to have
>> > picked it.
>> >
>> > What I find is in most families, there is one primary cook, and
>> > others maybe pinch hit a bit with certain items. (Like, Daddy does
>> > the grilling, Mom cooks most other things). If kids do not start
>> > young in the kitchen, they tend to be intimidated by it all. That
>> > almost happened to Charlotte because Don and I are good cooks.
>> >
>> > Once we realized it, we had her in a cooking class (HS Home Ec type
>> > but just cooking) and told the instructor on the side privately
>> > that we'd intimidated her but she had the background. Charlotte
>> > made straight A's and started getting cookbooks of things she
>> > wanted to try. A symptom of this is her cookbooks are German,
>> > Polish, Russian, Scandinavian and a nifty one all about Udon/Noodle
>> > soups.
>> >
>> > Charlotte now is 22 and still doesn't cook as often as Don and I do,
>> > but her miso-dashi-udon soups are supurb and she has many variations
>> > that span off that and are all fantastic. She's also great at
>> > comming up with uses for leftover chicken. We had a Scandinavian
>> > sort of 'wrap' earlier this week. That was a keeper for all of us.
>> >
>> > So the point is, give her her own zone to work within. You are
>> > dead on right to let her select some veggies and other things she
>> > wants to try. If she has a rough idea of what she wants to do with
>> > them, all the better as you can make sure you have the stuff.
>> >
>> > Charlotte and I are making a grocery trip tomorrow. Mostly fresh
>> > veggie run but there's a good sale on fresh wild caught tuna and a
>> > decent one on cleaned crab. Charlotte is looking up a crabcake
>> > recipe she wants to try and listing what she needs to try making
>> > them. I've never made them but she's happily pulling various
>> > spices to the side.
>> >
>> > I'll post more as our trip develops.
>>
>> If I can get her out of the shower, I will let her pick what she
>> wants when we go shopping. However, I think the bulk of our
>> groceries today will be purchased at Target so that will be a tad
>> limiting. Won't be able to do a big shop elsewhere until next year.
>> One can make a meal from Target food but you just never know what
>> they might have. Each shopping trip is different. And while they do
>> sell fresh produce, it's not a large selection.
>
> Hi Julie, I meant to say more but got carried away with dinner plans
> and such.
>
> I have never shopped for groceries at Target but then, there isn't one
> near me and last time I was in one, they didnt have much in the way of
> groceries. That could well be an area thing. There was a local
> Wal-Mart that had good stuff but the main owner (Sam) died and the
> local manager quit over changes so the produce, while it looks pretty,
> is apt to spoil almost same day gotten home in the fridge now. We
> don't get other than canned or dry goods at Wal-Mart now and seldom
> those unless we are looking for something else and happen to be short
> an item.

When they first put the grocery section in the Woodinville store, we tried
to do most of our grocery shopping there. It was on the way to Costco and
if need be there was an Albertsons or a Safeway that we could stop at on the
way home. Neither store would take us much out of our way. But... The
Albertsons is gone now. And since they put that grocery in, much has
changed.

For one thing, hard liquor used to be sold only in state operated stores.
Now it can be sold pretty much anywhere. So... Most of the grocery and
drug stores began selling it. That means that one or two aisles or in some
cases, more, that used to hold food, now hold liquor. Apparently they can
make good money by selling it.

And I think that the typical Target shopper is not one who does much cooking
from scratch. Or not totally from scratch. They seem to sell a lot of
things like cooking sauces. I have limited experience with those things. I
have gotten them a few times for free or for cheap but nobody liked the end
result.

So when they first put that grocery in, they had an acceptable variety of
fresh fruit and vegetables. I could by a head of lettuce, a cabbage, whole
carrots. Once I bought cilantro, but they've never had that since. Now
they have baby carrots, sliced carrots, matchstick carrots, carrot sticks
(which is what I bought) and cups of assorted veggies cut up and ready for
use. Also come bagged salads and a few other things. I did not see any
zucchini which I have bought there in the past. And the peppers were mushy
but that's often the case everywhere this time of year.

They did have veggies on the shelf such as onions, potatoes, garlic and
tomatoes. And standard fruit like grapes, pears, apples and bananas.

But most of the aisles in the grocery are not aisles that we frequent often.
Such as frozen foods, candy, chips, cookies, crackers. And this store had
an even smaller selection of bread than the one in Woodinville.

So... While I was saving money to begin with and usually able to get at
least 80% of what I needed there, that is no longer the case. Now when I
make a list, I might write down a few items, knowing that I might have to go
somewhere else to get the items. Or if an immediate need, I might just
write down "dinner food" and see what they have. So yes, I can make a meal
or several meals from what they sell, those meals might not be what I
intended to fix. And I would put up with this if Target was close to where
I live and if I could save a lot of money there.

When they first put in the grocery, they were putting out a lot of store
coupons in an attempt to get people to use the grocery. But I think it
really didn't catch on much. I actually ran into a woman who worked at the
drug store near here and she struck up a conversation with us. Then noticed
the food in my cart. She did not even know that they *had* groceries in
there and she had been shopping there since they opened! She must not have
shopped there often as it was very obvious for months that they were doing
the remodel. They even had big signs and banners all over the store and
radio commercials with a cute little jingle.

So their grocery section is still much better than a convenience store but
it isn't so much helpful to me now. I basically just look at the sales and
clearance items and maybe pick up a few things in the grocery if I go there
for other things. We were looking for clearance stuff today but the only
thing I found was a package of small paper plates with more of a winter
design than Christmas. Angela did get a gift card and she got a sweater at
the Woodinville one in pink but she really wanted the gray one. Alas, this
store didn't have it.

I am just trying to be super careful with finances right now. We need to
get that deck built and there are a couple of other projects to be done. I
have money set aside for those, whenever we can find a person or company to
do the jobs. So far that isn't working out very well but perhaps once the
weather warms. And I managed to pull off the winter birthdays and Christmas
without having to put a dime on the credit card. And because we only get
paid once a month, there can be lean times approaching payday. This is one
of those times. We actually have plenty of food in the house. Just perhaps
not foods that she might want to cook. I plan to do a pot of beans
tomorrow. She likely won't want to eat them but I suppose I can have her do
them. Those are easy to make.

Julie Bove wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "cshenk" > wrote in message

In line reply!

> > >
> > > If I can get her out of the shower, I will let her pick what she
> > > wants when we go shopping. However, I think the bulk of our
> > > groceries today will be purchased at Target so that will be a tad
> > > limiting. Won't be able to do a big shop elsewhere until next
> > > year. One can make a meal from Target food but you just never
> > > know what they might have. Each shopping trip is different. And
> > > while they do sell fresh produce, it's not a large selection.
> >
> > Hi Julie, I meant to say more but got carried away with dinner plans
> > and such.
> >
> > I have never shopped for groceries at Target but then, there isn't
> > one near me and last time I was in one, they didnt have much in the
> > way of groceries. That could well be an area thing. There was a
> > local Wal-Mart that had good stuff but the main owner (Sam) died
> > and the local manager quit over changes so the produce, while it
> > looks pretty, is apt to spoil almost same day gotten home in the
> > fridge now. We don't get other than canned or dry goods at
> > Wal-Mart now and seldom those unless we are looking for something
> > else and happen to be short an item.
>
> When they first put the grocery section in the Woodinville store, we
> tried to do most of our grocery shopping there. It was on the way to
> Costco and if need be there was an Albertsons or a Safeway that we
> could stop at on the way home. Neither store would take us much out
> of our way. But... The Albertsons is gone now. And since they put
> that grocery in, much has changed.

Yes, there is a spot now that used to be a small food store. Krogers I
think. It was right on my way home and on the correct side to make a
fast trip. I was probably there twice a week for some little item.



>
> For one thing, hard liquor used to be sold only in state operated
> stores. Now it can be sold pretty much anywhere. So... Most of the
> grocery and drug stores began selling it. That means that one or two
> aisles or in some cases, more, that used to hold food, now hold
> liquor. Apparently they can make good money by selling it.

Yes. I don't mind that isle really but here it's beer and wine only.

> And I think that the typical Target shopper is not one who does much
> cooking from scratch. Or not totally from scratch. They seem to
> sell a lot of things like cooking sauces. I have limited experience
> with those things. I have gotten them a few times for free or for
> cheap but nobody liked the end result.


Agreed, most folks who get groceries at such places seem to not be
scratch cooks. Franky, I don't have a problem with that as long as it's
balanced.

For cooking sauces, I use a limited set. Worstershire, Soy,
Hot-sweet-chicken, Jufran Banana sauce and occasional ones I get at an
asian store (Char-Sui, Korean BBQ).

>
> So when they first put that grocery in, they had an acceptable
> variety of fresh fruit and vegetables. I could by a head of lettuce,
> a cabbage, whole carrots. Once I bought cilantro, but they've never
> had that since. Now they have baby carrots, sliced carrots,
> matchstick carrots, carrot sticks (which is what I bought) and cups
> of assorted veggies cut up and ready for use. Also come bagged
> salads and a few other things. I did not see any zucchini which I
> have bought there in the past. And the peppers were mushy but that's
> often the case everywhere this time of year.

Local Harris Tetters still has decent bell peppers but they are all hot
house now. The summer squash isnt looking too good though. Thats as
of 2 weeks ago. I didnt make it out today as planned. Twisted my back
a little in my sleep and stayed home to baby it.


> They did have veggies on the shelf such as onions, potatoes, garlic
> and tomatoes. And standard fruit like grapes, pears, apples and
> bananas.

My planned trip will happen when I'm up to it on the way home from work
next week. Looking for more cabbage (3 types), potatoes (whatever is
on sale), a red onion, a leek, bell peppers, mushrooms (shemenji
preferred), fresh fruit, pork neckbone, small whole chicken (or legs
quarters will work). Probably head to American Asian Grocery (local
place) as they have all I need in on spot.

> But most of the aisles in the grocery are not aisles that we frequent
> often. Such as frozen foods, candy, chips, cookies, crackers. And
> this store had an even smaller selection of bread than the one in
> Woodinville.

Smile, I visited the bread isle a few months ago. It's separate here
from the chips and such. It was hilarious and sad at the same time.
They wanted 4$ for a boboli crust I can make just as nicely for 42cents.


> So... While I was saving money to begin with and usually able to get
> at least 80% of what I needed there, that is no longer the case. Now
> when I make a list, I might write down a few items, knowing that I
> might have to go somewhere else to get the items. Or if an immediate
> need, I might just write down "dinner food" and see what they have.
> So yes, I can make a meal or several meals from what they sell, those
> meals might not be what I intended to fix. And I would put up with
> this if Target was close to where I live and if I could save a lot of
> money there.

Same here. I go with a list of what I have looked up that is on sale
(and check it all over) but if i see a sale I didnt notice and it
appeals, I get that.

I adapt well to what is handy at the time. Like the first time I saw
lamb for 2.97lb, I snagged all 8lbs and went to figure out rhat to do
with it ;-)

> When they first put in the grocery, they were putting out a lot of
> store coupons in an attempt to get people to use the grocery. But I
> think it really didn't catch on much. I actually ran into a woman
> who worked at the drug store near here and she struck up a
> conversation with us. Then noticed the food in my cart. She did not
> even know that they had groceries in there and she had been shopping
> there since they opened! She must not have shopped there often as it
> was very obvious for months that they were doing the remodel. They
> even had big signs and banners all over the store and radio
> commercials with a cute little jingle.

Hard to say. Maybe one end leads to groceries and she always took the
other?

> So their grocery section is still much better than a convenience
> store but it isn't so much helpful to me now. I basically just look
> at the sales and clearance items and maybe pick up a few things in
> the grocery if I go there for other things. We were looking for
> clearance stuff today but the only thing I found was a package of
> small paper plates with more of a winter design than Christmas.
> Angela did get a gift card and she got a sweater at the Woodinville
> one in pink but she really wanted the gray one. Alas, this store
> didn't have it.

Ah sorry. I got Charlotte 2 pairs of fingerless gloves thinking she'd
hate the red and grey striped ones and love the solid grey. Nope, she
loves the red and grey striped ones ;-)

> I am just trying to be super careful with finances right now. We
> need to get that deck built and there are a couple of other projects
> to be done. I have money set aside for those, whenever we can find a
> person or company to do the jobs. So far that isn't working out very
> well but perhaps once the weather warms.

We had to have our driveway replaced. City warnings and we did not
disagree. Neighbors oak had ripped it pretty bad. He agreed to let us
pay to have the tree taken out since the work to repair the driveway
would kill the tree. He's on a fixed social security income so we paid.

No we are waiting for the final parts of the job to be done. Weather
got us half way though. About 2,000$ all told once finished.



> the winter birthdays and Christmas without having to put a dime on
> the credit card. And because we only get paid once a month, there
> can be lean times approaching payday. This is one of those times.
> We actually have plenty of food in the house. Just perhaps not foods
> that she might want to cook. I plan to do a pot of beans tomorrow.
> She likely won't want to eat them but I suppose I can have her do
> them. Those are easy to make.

Grin, there ya go. Charlotte actually started cooking on those lean
days. Sniffing spices and letting me know which she wanted.

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On Friday, December 25, 2015 at 10:44:55 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me that she
> wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to learn. She also said
> that we need to buy more vegetables. I think this might be hard to do as
> those are the food that I buy the most of but... I told her when we go
> shopping tomorrow, she can pick some out.
>
> Now... Let's just see if this lasts.

This sounds very promising. I would start out with something she really likes!!

"rosie" > wrote in message
...
> On Friday, December 25, 2015 at 10:44:55 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me that she
>> wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to learn. She also
>> said
>> that we need to buy more vegetables. I think this might be hard to do as
>> those are the food that I buy the most of but... I told her when we go
>> shopping tomorrow, she can pick some out.
>>
>> Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
>
> This sounds very promising. I would start out with something she really
> likes!!

She wants to do vegetable dishes. She is leaning towards no meat again.

On 12/25/2015 11:44 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

> But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me that she
> wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to learn. She also
> said that we need to buy more vegetables. I think this might be hard to
> do as those are the food that I buy the most of but... I told her when
> we go shopping tomorrow, she can pick some out.
>
> Now... Let's just see if this lasts.

A bit late, but that's great!

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Cheryl

On 12/25/2015 11:44 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me that she
> wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to learn. She also
> said that we need to buy more vegetables. I think this might be hard to
> do as those are the food that I buy the most of but... I told her when
> we go shopping tomorrow, she can pick some out.
>
> Now... Let's just see if this lasts.

As usual this post doesn't even make sense. You say she wants to learn
to cook. I, for one, am thrilled! If she said, "we need to buy more
vegetables" then let her! What's the problem?

You said, "I think this might be hard to do..." Why the heck should it
be hard to do? Are you the lord of the vegetables?!

Take her shopping. Let her pick out whatever freakin' vegetables she
wants to use or cook with. What's the big deal here?

You're trying to maintain control and keep her out of the kitchen.
Maybe she'd like to get away from your opening cans for dinner scenario.

You're the one holding her back.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> You're trying to maintain control and keep her out of the kitchen.


Uh uh uh....bitches be setting on each other again...

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/25/2015 11:44 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> But... An unnamed female who lives in this house just told me that she
>> wants me to teach her how to cook because she wants to learn. She also
>> said that we need to buy more vegetables. I think this might be hard to
>> do as those are the food that I buy the most of but... I told her when
>> we go shopping tomorrow, she can pick some out.
>>
>> Now... Let's just see if this lasts.
>
> As usual this post doesn't even make sense. You say she wants to learn to
> cook. I, for one, am thrilled! If she said, "we need to buy more
> vegetables" then let her! What's the problem?

Who said there was a problem? And what doesn't make sense? She didn't want
to know how to cook and now she does.
>
> You said, "I think this might be hard to do..." Why the heck should it be
> hard to do? Are you the lord of the vegetables?!

No but we have all sorts of vegetables already so I can't see why she is
asking for more.
>
> Take her shopping. Let her pick out whatever freakin' vegetables she
> wants to use or cook with. What's the big deal here?

There is no big deal. Why are you making one?
>
> You're trying to maintain control and keep her out of the kitchen. Maybe
> she'd like to get away from your opening cans for dinner scenario.

Nonsense. And I don't open cans for dinner. Although there were a couple
that went into my soup. Namely Rotel and tomato sauce.
>
> You're the one holding her back.

WTF? No.