On 22/12/2015 12:20 PM, Gary wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Cindy:
>>> Walmart likes to give people part-time hours, so
>>> they are not obligated to pay health benefits, etc.
>>
>> If the government can't stop them and the
>> customers won't, then the employees are fair game, I suppose.
>
> It's not just Walmart. This has been going on for over 20 years in
> many companies. Walmart is just getting all the blame now. They are no
> better or worse than many other companies. For companies, it's just
> survival. The unions got too greedy and blew it. Companies decided to
> take manufacturing overseas.
>
The Apple CEO the other day said that China has invested wisely in
vocational education and the number of tool and die makers is orders of
magnitude above the USA's, where there has been encouragement to go to
university. That's why, in large part, companies have had little choice
but to send their work to the PRC.
Graham

On 22/12/2015 12:20 PM, Gary wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Cindy:
>>> Walmart likes to give people part-time hours, so
>>> they are not obligated to pay health benefits, etc.
>>
>> If the government can't stop them and the
>> customers won't, then the employees are fair game, I suppose.
>
> It's not just Walmart. This has been going on for over 20 years in
> many companies. Walmart is just getting all the blame now. They are no
> better or worse than many other companies. For companies, it's just
> survival. The unions got too greedy and blew it. Companies decided to
> take manufacturing overseas.
>
And Walmart is responsible for a significant percentage of China's GDP.
Graham

On 22/12/2015 12:22 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On 23/12/2015 04:44 graham wrote:
>
>> On 21/12/2015 9:50 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:47:10 -0600, Sqwertz >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 16:44:56 -0700, graham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> About 10
>>>>> years ago I was shopping around for deals for baby formula and my
>>>>> locally owned supermarket was 30% cheaper than Walmart, and that was the
>>>>> regular price.
>>>>
>>>> Walmart here in the U.S. charges the maximum they can for baby formula
>>>> because WIC pays for it - a government welfare program that
>>>> reimburses grocery stores for the retail cost of the product. And all
>>>> those WIC recipients just love Walmart, so that's where they buy it
>>>> because the retail price doesn't matter to them.
>>>>
>>>> Walmart is very good at extracting as much money as they can from the
>>>> Government. Half of Walmart's workforce qualifies for food stamps and
>>>> other public assistance programs.
>>>
>>> Even though they have a job? You've gotta love unbridled capitalism!
>>>
>> At long, long last, farmers in Alberta are being legislated to conform
>> to the same labour laws as every other business. Of course, like all
>> farmers, they are whining about having to change.
>> However, the most egregious example is that of a greenhouse owner who
>> has announced that next year will be his last in business because he
>> will have to pay his workers overtime, holiday and vacation pay!
>
> He's basically saying that his company was never economically viable.
>
Yes! He deserves to go out of business!

wrote:
>
> Why do you have to carry her to her bathroom ? Sounds like she is
> very cat like with her slave

She's old and getting senile now. She had one "accident" on my bed and
now she thinks that's where she is supposed to go to the bathroom.
NOT GOOD. She won't go up the ramp to her litter area. She still
walks over there but takes a wrong turn and wants to poop on my bed
and blanket. That has happened if I don't wake up.

So...she lets me know each night when she has to go. I immediately
wake up and put her in the litter box. Then we go into the kitchen and
wait for warm water, then I'll rinse off her hind end. Then she wants
to eat again so I feed her.

After all that, as I said, she will go right back to sleep until it
all repeats in about 3 hours. Meanwhile, after all that in the middle
of the night, I'm wide awake for at least another hour. It's a real
pain but we have a long history together so I indulge her. Many
times, just as I start getting sleepy again, she wakes up and
wants.... arrghhhh@

On Tuesday, December 22, 2015 at 9:51:19 AM UTC-7, Abiquiu wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> > I used to do the cross border shopping thing
>
> Canucks are all ravingly cheap.

USians are just raving.

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:37:35 -0500, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>>
>> Why do you have to carry her to her bathroom ? Sounds like she is
>> very cat like with her slave
>
>She's old and getting senile now. She had one "accident" on my bed and
>now she thinks that's where she is supposed to go to the bathroom.
>NOT GOOD. She won't go up the ramp to her litter area. She still
>walks over there but takes a wrong turn and wants to poop on my bed
>and blanket. That has happened if I don't wake up.
>
>So...she lets me know each night when she has to go. I immediately
>wake up and put her in the litter box. Then we go into the kitchen and
>wait for warm water, then I'll rinse off her hind end. Then she wants
>to eat again so I feed her.
>
>After all that, as I said, she will go right back to sleep until it
>all repeats in about 3 hours. Meanwhile, after all that in the middle
>of the night, I'm wide awake for at least another hour. It's a real
>pain but we have a long history together so I indulge her. Many
>times, just as I start getting sleepy again, she wakes up and
>wants.... arrghhhh@

You're an excellent ferret dad

On 23/12/2015 06:20 Gary wrote:

> Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Cindy:
>> > Walmart likes to give people part-time hours, so
>> > they are not obligated to pay health benefits, etc.
>>
>> If the government can't stop them and the
>> customers won't, then the employees are fair game, I suppose.
>
> It's not just Walmart. This has been going on for over 20 years in
> many companies. Walmart is just getting all the blame now. They are no
> better or worse than many other companies. For companies, it's just
> survival. The unions got too greedy and blew it. Companies decided to
> take manufacturing overseas.

I think employers also have a certain social responsibility, but I guess
that's raising the bar way too high.

--
Bruce

Bruce wrote:
>
> On 23/12/2015 06:20 Gary wrote:
>
> > Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> Cindy:
> >> > Walmart likes to give people part-time hours, so
> >> > they are not obligated to pay health benefits, etc.
> >>
> >> If the government can't stop them and the
> >> customers won't, then the employees are fair game, I suppose.
> >
> > It's not just Walmart. This has been going on for over 20 years in
> > many companies. Walmart is just getting all the blame now. They are no
> > better or worse than many other companies. For companies, it's just
> > survival. The unions got too greedy and blew it. Companies decided to
> > take manufacturing overseas.
>
> I think employers also have a certain social responsibility, but I guess
> that's raising the bar way too high.

I wish you would tell that to my worthless boss. He's redefined
Ebinesor Scrooge.

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 11:47:10 -0000 (UTC), Bruce >
wrote:

> Didn't the US always have strong labor unions? Why do they allow Walmart
> to pay employees too little to live off?

Walmart thrives in "Right to Work" states, which is code for "union
busting" states, but their citizens are too ignorant to understand
that nuance.

--

sf

On 23/12/2015 07:38 Gary wrote:

> Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On 23/12/2015 06:20 Gary wrote:
>>
>> > Bruce wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Cindy:
>> >> > Walmart likes to give people part-time hours, so
>> >> > they are not obligated to pay health benefits, etc.
>> >>
>> >> If the government can't stop them and the
>> >> customers won't, then the employees are fair game, I suppose.
>> >
>> > It's not just Walmart. This has been going on for over 20 years in
>> > many companies. Walmart is just getting all the blame now. They are no
>> > better or worse than many other companies. For companies, it's just
>> > survival. The unions got too greedy and blew it. Companies decided to
>> > take manufacturing overseas.
>>
>> I think employers also have a certain social responsibility, but I guess
>> that's raising the bar way too high.
>
> I wish you would tell that to my worthless boss. He's redefined
> Ebinesor Scrooge.

lol

--
Bruce

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:50:26 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:

> notbob wrote:
> > On 2015-12-22, > wrote:
> >
> >> Wartmart employees in Quebec started to unionise and the store was
> >> instantly closed, even though profitable.
> >
> > WW will do anything to prevent unions from gaining a foothold.
>
> GOOD!
>
> I like LOW prices.
>
> Why don't YOU?
>
You're paying one way or the other and I'd rather not support Walmart
with my taxes. They can give their workers a decent wage, a full time
job & benefits... and they can pass it on to their customers the same
way business always does.

--

sf

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:08:51 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:

> Janet B wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:28:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 15:50:22 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:47:10 -0600, Sqwertz >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 16:44:56 -0700, graham wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> About 10
> >>>>> years ago I was shopping around for deals for baby formula and my
> >>>>> locally owned supermarket was 30% cheaper than Walmart, and that was the
> >>>>> regular price.
> >>>>
> >>>> Walmart here in the U.S. charges the maximum they can for baby formula
> >>>> because WIC pays for it - a government welfare program that
> >>>> reimburses grocery stores for the retail cost of the product. And all
> >>>> those WIC recipients just love Walmart, so that's where they buy it
> >>>> because the retail price doesn't matter to them.
> >>>>
> >>>> Walmart is very good at extracting as much money as they can from the
> >>>> Government. Half of Walmart's workforce qualifies for food stamps and
> >>>> other public assistance programs.
> >>>
> >>> Even though they have a job? You've gotta love unbridled capitalism!
> >>
> >> We even have a term for them: working poor. Also, they're blamed for
> >> being poor and called lazy - even though many of them hold several
> >> part time jobs trying to make ends meet.
> >
> > exactly.
> > Janet US
> >
> Only losers do that, not the mainstream.

Thanks for proving my point.

--

sf

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:46:58 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:

> Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 21:48:25 -0500, Cheryl >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/21/2015 12:52 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>> This is why the selection at Walmart sucks. 95% of the chip aisle is
> >>> Frito Lay.
> >>
> >> I can see that changing in many stores now that Snyders is buying Diamond.
> >
> > Here Snyder's leads in pretzels, I love their hard sourdough pretzels.
> > http://www.snydersofhanover.com/
>
> Utz is better.
>
> > In the stores here UTZ is the top contender for chips, etc.
> > http://utzsnacks.com/
>
> Wise is better.
>
> > Wise is also big here.
> > http://www.wisesnacks.com/
>
> And better.
>
> > Lays is trying mightily to hang on here, every week they run big
> > sales, this week it's buy two get three free... I don't like Lays
> > potato chips, they leave an unpleasant after taste. None of the other
> > chip companys run sales, they don't need to.
>
> Lays beats all the above hands down.
>
> Low salt Lays are the best chip on the planet, period.
>
> http://www.fritolay.com/snacks/produ...d-potato-chips
>
>
> http://www.taquitos.net/snacks.php?snack_code=2736
>
> Taste: The regular variety of Lay's is a salty and somewhat greasy chip,
> so we were eager to try the lightly salted version. These chips were
> about the same consistency as regular Lay's, but you can definitely tell
> that there is less salt on them. My first thought was that these tasted
> exactly like the regularly salted version of my favorite local brand of
> potato chips, Wachusett, so you could taste the potato rather than the
> salt and oil. Frito-Lay has a winner with these chips. I will definitely
> pick this bag over their regular version any time.
>
> 2nd best:
>
> http://www.fritolay.com/lays-kettle-...t-vinegar.html
>
> Sea salt and a kick of tangy vinegar pair perfectly on our LAY’S® Kettle
> Cooked 40% Less Fat* Sea Salt & Vinegar potato chips. These chips
> contain 40% less fat than regular potato chips.*

Try Trader Joe's Olive Oil potato chips sometime. Only $2 a bag.

--

sf

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
news:fa7e2c13-3a4c-4f38-9caf-
>
> When I was a kid, I'd whine, "When I'm a grownup,
> I'll stay up as late as I want to".
>
> If I'm not mistaken, I'm ready for sleep earlier
> now than when I was 10 years old.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I was the same way with driving when I was a kid, couldn't wait to grow up,
have my own car and drive as much as I want, now...if I can get someone else
to go for me, I'm happy.

Cheri

On 2015-12-22, Dave Smith > wrote:

> I have worked in union and non union shops, and union was much better.

That whole "open shop" scam plays on that part of clueless scabs
who think they are losing a personal choice. Like management is on
their side.

> Most of the retail sector does it.

And have for years. The last two checkers/clerks union strikes in
Northern CA were not for more $$$$ or more bennies, they were to stop
the wholesale reduction of work hours for full time employees.
Fortunately, both strikes were successful and full time employee hours
were saved.

The then republican Governor, Pete Wilson, completely gutted the
overtime pay for thousands of waged workers. When Gray Davis (D) took
over as Gov, he re-instated the overtime hours laws and gave us back
our $$$$. Anyone who sez Gray Davis was a bad governor never worked
in CA for an hourly wage.

nb

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Cindy:
>> > Walmart likes to give people part-time hours, so
>> > they are not obligated to pay health benefits, etc.
>>
>> If the government can't stop them and the
>> customers won't, then the employees are fair game, I suppose.
>
> It's not just Walmart. This has been going on for over 20 years in
> many companies. Walmart is just getting all the blame now. They are no
> better or worse than many other companies. For companies, it's just
> survival. The unions got too greedy and blew it. Companies decided to
> take manufacturing overseas.

Got that right, but Walmart always gets singled out. Cracked me up when the
Food 4 Less here ( a giant supermarket) was complaining about Walmart, but
put a big supermarket over in the Hispanic part of town, running a lot of
the little bodegas out of business, but it's not Walmart, so that's OK.
Yeah, right.

Cheri

On 12/21/2015 10:58 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> I believe you are the one who recommended Mary B frozen biscuits...the
> Internet says Walmart carries them in my area. I didn't find them at one
> superstore, but bought instead Walmart's own brand...I forget their brand
> name.
>
> Anyway, they are really good...almost exactly like Hardee's, which I have been
> trying to duplicate.

I'm glad you liked the biscuits! And no, I'm not shopping at 5AM,
doesn't matter what store it is.

Jill

On 2015-12-22 12:44 PM, graham wrote:
> On 21/12/2015 9:50 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:47:10 -0600, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 16:44:56 -0700, graham wrote:
>>>
>>>> About 10
>>>> years ago I was shopping around for deals for baby formula and my
>>>> locally owned supermarket was 30% cheaper than Walmart, and that was
>>>> the
>>>> regular price.
>>>
>>> Walmart here in the U.S. charges the maximum they can for baby formula
>>> because WIC pays for it - a government welfare program that
>>> reimburses grocery stores for the retail cost of the product. And all
>>> those WIC recipients just love Walmart, so that's where they buy it
>>> because the retail price doesn't matter to them.
>>>
>>> Walmart is very good at extracting as much money as they can from the
>>> Government. Half of Walmart's workforce qualifies for food stamps and
>>> other public assistance programs.
>>
>> Even though they have a job? You've gotta love unbridled capitalism!
>>
> At long, long last, farmers in Alberta are being legislated to conform
> to the same labour laws as every other business. Of course, like all
> farmers, they are whining about having to change.
> However, the most egregious example is that of a greenhouse owner who
> has announced that next year will be his last in business because he
> will have to pay his workers overtime, holiday and vacation pay!
>
> Graham

On 12/22/2015 3:56 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:50:26 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
>
>> notbob wrote:
>>> On 2015-12-22, > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wartmart employees in Quebec started to unionise and the store was
>>>> instantly closed, even though profitable.
>>>
>>> WW will do anything to prevent unions from gaining a foothold.
>>
>> GOOD!
>>
>> I like LOW prices.
>>
>> Why don't YOU?
>>
> You're paying one way or the other and I'd rather not support Walmart
> with my taxes. They can give their workers a decent wage, a full time
> job & benefits... and they can pass it on to their customers the same
> way business always does.
>
Walmart snuck in under the radar this year after being defeated in 2008.
They're going to fill in the marsh and build a store... maybe. I
still haven't seen any sign of them doing that. Just a sign saying
"Future Home of WalMart".

Meanwhile, there's another WalMart and we don't really need a second one.

In the meantime, the city of Beaufort annexed a stretch of road across
the street. It's becoming known as the "Walmartization of Lady's
Island". First up for approval is a Taco Bell. That stretch of former
beautiful land has been approved for the building of drive-thru
restaurants. Oh boy. Can't wait for a bunch of fast food places!

That's the way to screw up a nice, pretty stretch of road, assholes.

Jill

On 2015-12-22 1:01 PM, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> If I'm not mistaken, I'm ready for sleep earlier
>> now than when I was 10 years old.
>
> As I get up so early, I do often fall asleep early evening or take an
> afternoon nap if I'm home all day. You can't burn the candle on both
> ends. But I like my odd schedule. Up here and there all night and
> always get up by 4:30am. I do well on only about 5 to 5.5 hours sleep
> per day though.

I am in a very comfortable cycle. I usually go to bed after the 11 pm
news and read for an hour or two. Then I wake up around 6 am and
usually turn on the radio and listen to the news / doze until about 8.

It is very rare that I have a nap..... almost never. After I had heart
surgery five years ago I did a lot of napping. For the first couple
weeks I was home I had to take 5 minutes walks 4 times a day, and I
would nap for at least an hour after each one. After a couple weeks the
walks were longer and I did not need the naps any more.

>
> Again though...the little furry one does interrupt my sleep.

My dog sleeps in our room and his snoring occasionally wakes me up, or
else those rabbit chasing dreams.

One of the great things about being retired is being able to wake up
when my body wants to be awake. If I wake up during the night I don't
have to fret about losing sleep. If I am up for a long time and can't
sleep I read for a while.

On 2015-12-22 2:26 PM, graham wrote:

> The Apple CEO the other day said that China has invested wisely in
> vocational education and the number of tool and die makers is orders of
> magnitude above the USA's, where there has been encouragement to go to
> university. That's why, in large part, companies have had little choice
> but to send their work to the PRC.

We missed a lesson from two world wars. They were won by the side that,
in addition to having a lot of healthy and well fed and well trained
troops, had the industrial capacity to produce the ships, planes,
vehicles, arms and ammunition to fight the war.

graham wrote:
> the most egregious example is that of a greenhouse owner who has
> announced that next year will be his last in business because he will
> have to pay his workers overtime, holiday and vacation pay!

Gotta make a profit, all the more so in a taxacious land like yours.

Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> I often stay up until about midnight or 1AM, sometimes.
>
> I often fall asleep during prime time for an hour or so then I wake up
> by midnight. From then on, it's reading, watching some tv, taking the
> ferret to the bathroom, cleaning her butt, feeding her. Repeat every
> 2-3 hours. ;-o
>

Butt cleaning?

Uggh....

On 2015-12-22 3:18 PM, Roy wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 22, 2015 at 9:51:19 AM UTC-7, Abiquiu wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>> I used to do the cross border shopping thing
>>
>> Canucks are all ravingly cheap.
>
> USians are just raving.
>
Well, thanks for replying to his raving, because if you had not I would
not have seen it.

On 2015-12-22 3:39 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 11:47:10 -0000 (UTC), Bruce >
> wrote:
>
>> Didn't the US always have strong labor unions? Why do they allow Walmart
>> to pay employees too little to live off?
>
> Walmart thrives in "Right to Work" states, which is code for "union
> busting" states, but their citizens are too ignorant to understand
> that nuance.

I thought it was code for "right to work for peanuts". Slap the word
"right" to a slogan and too many Americans will buy into it.

On 2015-12-22 3:56 PM, sf wrote:

> You're paying one way or the other and I'd rather not support Walmart
> with my taxes. They can give their workers a decent wage, a full time
> job & benefits... and they can pass it on to their customers the same
> way business always does.
>


One small snag. The family cannot be make billions for themselves if
they pay their employees a liveable wage. They could pay liveable wages
and still make a lot of money.

Sqwertz wrote:
> Do
> they come with little squeeze packets of gravy?
>
> -sw

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graham wrote:
> On 22/12/2015 12:20 PM, Gary wrote:
>> Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> Cindy:
>>>> Walmart likes to give people part-time hours, so
>>>> they are not obligated to pay health benefits, etc.
>>>
>>> If the government can't stop them and the
>>> customers won't, then the employees are fair game, I suppose.
>>
>> It's not just Walmart. This has been going on for over 20 years in
>> many companies. Walmart is just getting all the blame now. They are no
>> better or worse than many other companies. For companies, it's just
>> survival. The unions got too greedy and blew it. Companies decided to
>> take manufacturing overseas.
>>
> The Apple CEO the other day said that China has invested wisely in
> vocational education and the number of tool and die makers is orders of
> magnitude above the USA's, where there has been encouragement to go to
> university. That's why, in large part, companies have had little choice
> but to send their work to the PRC.
> Graham

Oh look, blind/pig/acorn - he got one right.

graham wrote:
> On 22/12/2015 12:22 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On 23/12/2015 04:44 graham wrote:
>>
>>> On 21/12/2015 9:50 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:47:10 -0600, Sqwertz >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 16:44:56 -0700, graham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> About 10
>>>>>> years ago I was shopping around for deals for baby formula and my
>>>>>> locally owned supermarket was 30% cheaper than Walmart, and that
>>>>>> was the
>>>>>> regular price.
>>>>>
>>>>> Walmart here in the U.S. charges the maximum they can for baby formula
>>>>> because WIC pays for it - a government welfare program that
>>>>> reimburses grocery stores for the retail cost of the product. And all
>>>>> those WIC recipients just love Walmart, so that's where they buy it
>>>>> because the retail price doesn't matter to them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Walmart is very good at extracting as much money as they can from the
>>>>> Government. Half of Walmart's workforce qualifies for food stamps and
>>>>> other public assistance programs.
>>>>
>>>> Even though they have a job? You've gotta love unbridled capitalism!
>>>>
>>> At long, long last, farmers in Alberta are being legislated to conform
>>> to the same labour laws as every other business. Of course, like all
>>> farmers, they are whining about having to change.
>>> However, the most egregious example is that of a greenhouse owner who
>>> has announced that next year will be his last in business because he
>>> will have to pay his workers overtime, holiday and vacation pay!
>>
>> He's basically saying that his company was never economically viable.
>>
> Yes! He deserves to go out of business!

Deserve's got nothing to do with it, commie.

Roy wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 22, 2015 at 9:51:19 AM UTC-7, Abiquiu wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>> I used to do the cross border shopping thing
>>
>> Canucks are all ravingly cheap.
>
> USians are just raving.
>

Penny for your thoughts, I know, damn ****ing inflation!

sf wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 11:47:10 -0000 (UTC), Bruce >
> wrote:
>
>> Didn't the US always have strong labor unions? Why do they allow Walmart
>> to pay employees too little to live off?
>
> Walmart thrives in "Right to Work" states, which is code for "union
> busting" states, but their citizens are too ignorant to understand
> that nuance.
>

More work, less jobs to china.

sf wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:50:26 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
>
>> notbob wrote:
>>> On 2015-12-22, > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wartmart employees in Quebec started to unionise and the store was
>>>> instantly closed, even though profitable.
>>>
>>> WW will do anything to prevent unions from gaining a foothold.
>>
>> GOOD!
>>
>> I like LOW prices.
>>
>> Why don't YOU?
>>
> You're paying one way or the other and I'd rather not support Walmart
> with my taxes. They can give their workers a decent wage, a full time
> job & benefits... and they can pass it on to their customers the same
> way business always does.
>


They raised their wages to $10/hr.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/19/news...ges/index.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-wa...0OI1EW20150602

sf wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:08:51 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
>
>> Janet B wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:28:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 15:50:22 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:47:10 -0600, Sqwertz >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 16:44:56 -0700, graham wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About 10
>>>>>>> years ago I was shopping around for deals for baby formula and my
>>>>>>> locally owned supermarket was 30% cheaper than Walmart, and that was the
>>>>>>> regular price.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Walmart here in the U.S. charges the maximum they can for baby formula
>>>>>> because WIC pays for it - a government welfare program that
>>>>>> reimburses grocery stores for the retail cost of the product. And all
>>>>>> those WIC recipients just love Walmart, so that's where they buy it
>>>>>> because the retail price doesn't matter to them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Walmart is very good at extracting as much money as they can from the
>>>>>> Government. Half of Walmart's workforce qualifies for food stamps and
>>>>>> other public assistance programs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even though they have a job? You've gotta love unbridled capitalism!
>>>>
>>>> We even have a term for them: working poor. Also, they're blamed for
>>>> being poor and called lazy - even though many of them hold several
>>>> part time jobs trying to make ends meet.
>>>
>>> exactly.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> Only losers do that, not the mainstream.
>
> Thanks for proving my point.
>
Which was?

Poor is poor.

Working or not.

sf wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 09:46:58 -0700, Abiquiu > wrote:
>
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 21:48:25 -0500, Cheryl >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/21/2015 12:52 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> This is why the selection at Walmart sucks. 95% of the chip aisle is
>>>>> Frito Lay.
>>>>
>>>> I can see that changing in many stores now that Snyders is buying Diamond.
>>>
>>> Here Snyder's leads in pretzels, I love their hard sourdough pretzels.
>>> http://www.snydersofhanover.com/
>>
>> Utz is better.
>>
>>> In the stores here UTZ is the top contender for chips, etc.
>>> http://utzsnacks.com/
>>
>> Wise is better.
>>
>>> Wise is also big here.
>>> http://www.wisesnacks.com/
>>
>> And better.
>>
>>> Lays is trying mightily to hang on here, every week they run big
>>> sales, this week it's buy two get three free... I don't like Lays
>>> potato chips, they leave an unpleasant after taste. None of the other
>>> chip companys run sales, they don't need to.
>>
>> Lays beats all the above hands down.
>>
>> Low salt Lays are the best chip on the planet, period.
>>
>> http://www.fritolay.com/snacks/produ...d-potato-chips
>>
>>
>> http://www.taquitos.net/snacks.php?snack_code=2736
>>
>> Taste: The regular variety of Lay's is a salty and somewhat greasy chip,
>> so we were eager to try the lightly salted version. These chips were
>> about the same consistency as regular Lay's, but you can definitely tell
>> that there is less salt on them. My first thought was that these tasted
>> exactly like the regularly salted version of my favorite local brand of
>> potato chips, Wachusett, so you could taste the potato rather than the
>> salt and oil. Frito-Lay has a winner with these chips. I will definitely
>> pick this bag over their regular version any time.
>>
>> 2nd best:
>>
>> http://www.fritolay.com/lays-kettle-...t-vinegar.html
>>
>> Sea salt and a kick of tangy vinegar pair perfectly on our LAY’S® Kettle
>> Cooked 40% Less Fat* Sea Salt & Vinegar potato chips. These chips
>> contain 40% less fat than regular potato chips.*
>
> Try Trader Joe's Olive Oil potato chips sometime. Only $2 a bag.
>

Those worry me some, what is the taste like?

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-12-22 3:18 PM, Roy wrote:
>> On Tuesday, December 22, 2015 at 9:51:19 AM UTC-7, Abiquiu wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> I used to do the cross border shopping thing
>>>
>>> Canucks are all ravingly cheap.
>>
>> USians are just raving.
>>
> Well, thanks for replying to his raving, because if you had not I would
> not have seen it.

Boo ****ing hoo, you poor widdle baby.

Dave Smith wrote:
> Slap the word "right" to a slogan and too many Americans will buy into it.
>
Make it turn left an canuckleheads are all over it.

Dave Smith wrote:
> They could pay liveable wages and still make a lot of money.

Prove it bullshitter, you in his books?

On 22 Dec 2015 21:51:44 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2015-12-22, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> I have worked in union and non union shops, and union was much better.
>
>That whole "open shop" scam plays on that part of clueless scabs
>who think they are losing a personal choice. Like management is on
>their side.
>
>> Most of the retail sector does it.
>
>And have for years. The last two checkers/clerks union strikes in
>Northern CA were not for more $$$$ or more bennies, they were to stop
>the wholesale reduction of work hours for full time employees.
>Fortunately, both strikes were successful and full time employee hours
>were saved.
>
>The then republican Governor, Pete Wilson, completely gutted the
>overtime pay for thousands of waged workers. When Gray Davis (D) took
>over as Gov, he re-instated the overtime hours laws and gave us back
>our $$$$. Anyone who sez Gray Davis was a bad governor never worked
>in CA for an hourly wage.
>
>nb

I worked for about two years in a unionised job - the union sure took
a hefty chunk in union dues

On 2015-12-22, > wrote:

> I worked for about two years in a unionised job - the union sure took
> a hefty chunk in union dues

Unions killed themselves by hiring the same MBA jokers the
corporations hired. I came into unions right when they were shooting
themselves in the foot and savvy politicians and sharp corporations
knew how to take advantage of that self-inflicted wound. We love to
villify unions, but it was they that made the American Way Of Life the
envy of every country on Earth.

nb --why am I saluting?

notbob wrote:
> On 2015-12-22, > wrote:
>
>> I worked for about two years in a unionised job - the union sure took
>> a hefty chunk in union dues
>
> Unions killed themselves by hiring the same MBA jokers the
> corporations hired. I came into unions right when they were shooting
> themselves in the foot and savvy politicians and sharp corporations
> knew how to take advantage of that self-inflicted wound. We love to
> villify unions, but it was they that made the American Way Of Life the
> envy of every country on Earth.

Past tense, innit?

Own any GM stock before the bankruptcy?


> nb --why am I saluting?

Reflex action?