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On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 17:50:01 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2015-09-22 1:10 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>> They used to have little chocolate covered donuts that has a topknot
>> swirl of the white "cream" filling under the chocolate. Six to a pack,
>> as I recall - that is how small they were. I *loved* those things.
>>
>> One of their bakeries was in or near Detroit and they took customer
>> complaints very seriously back in the ancient times. A neighbor's mom
>> wrote them that she had gotten a pack of those donuts and the cream
>> filling was missing on two donuts. Someone from Hostess arrived with
>> a huge case of the things. We neighborhood kids feasted for days.
>>
>
>Some companies are better than others at dealing with problems. Years
>ago I bought a Vachon Cream Horn at a local store. When I bit into it I
>noticed a greenish hue in the cream filling. I spit it out and
>examined the item closer and noticed a fuzzy white texture on the
>chocolate icing. I wrote to Vachon and explained what I found on their
>product. A couple weeks later I opened my mailbox and found a box with a
>dozen butter tarts. They were stale and smashed. They tried.
>
>I had much better luck with E.D. Smith when I complained about biting
>into a cherry stone in a jar of their sour cherry jam. They sent me a
>nice letter and enclosed a couple dozen coupons for an assortment of
>their products. They had coupons for jams, ketchup, chili sauce, juices
>and pie filling. That was much better than some squashed stale tarts.


I *love* sour cherry jam. Hard to find these days.

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "graham" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 22/09/2015 10:51 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>> Hostess is the baking company that makes cupcakes that have a white
>>>> swirl in the hard chocolate frosting and a white filling inside, as
>>>> well as Twinkies, Snowballs and Hostess fruit pies.
>>>>
>>>> When I was a kid, the darn things were actually quite yummy. I have
>>>> not had them in 45+ years so Lord only knows what is in them now.I
>>>> probably do not even want to know.
>>>>
>>>> http://hostesscakes.com/products
>>>
>>> I didn't know what empanada was, but I see these are shaped like wee
>>> pasties:)))
>>>
>>> I don't think I would like your hostess cakes though:)
>>>
>>> Thanks very much:)
>>>
>> I think you would find them sickeningly sweet.
>
> Yes, I think you are right.

I used to like them as a kid, but haven't had one for many years.

Cheri

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On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 18:16:13 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 17:50:01 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2015-09-22 1:10 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>>> They used to have little chocolate covered donuts that has a topknot
>>> swirl of the white "cream" filling under the chocolate. Six to a pack,
>>> as I recall - that is how small they were. I *loved* those things.
>>>
>>> One of their bakeries was in or near Detroit and they took customer
>>> complaints very seriously back in the ancient times. A neighbor's mom
>>> wrote them that she had gotten a pack of those donuts and the cream
>>> filling was missing on two donuts. Someone from Hostess arrived with
>>> a huge case of the things. We neighborhood kids feasted for days.
>>>
>>
>>Some companies are better than others at dealing with problems. Years
>>ago I bought a Vachon Cream Horn at a local store. When I bit into it I
>>noticed a greenish hue in the cream filling. I spit it out and
>>examined the item closer and noticed a fuzzy white texture on the
>>chocolate icing. I wrote to Vachon and explained what I found on their
>>product. A couple weeks later I opened my mailbox and found a box with a
>>dozen butter tarts. They were stale and smashed. They tried.
>>
>>I had much better luck with E.D. Smith when I complained about biting
>>into a cherry stone in a jar of their sour cherry jam. They sent me a
>>nice letter and enclosed a couple dozen coupons for an assortment of
>>their products. They had coupons for jams, ketchup, chili sauce, juices
>>and pie filling. That was much better than some squashed stale tarts.
>
>
>I *love* sour cherry jam. Hard to find these days.

A couple of years ago I complained to Costco that recently every box o
Campari tomatoes that I got had soft spots and spoiled quickly. I
received an apology letter from Costco and one from the tomato grower.
He asked for my address so that he could send me some tomatoes. A
week later 4 cases of Campari tomatoes showed up (that's a huge lot of
tomatoes). Everyone in the neighborhood was very appreciative :)
Janet US

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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 3:40:35 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 12:57:31 PM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>> >> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
>
>> >> > (Their most famous product is the Twinkie, a small loaf of
>> >> > sponge cake filled with sweetened whipped vegetable shortening.)
>> >>
>> >> eww. Are they still popular?
>> >
>> > Apparently, they sell 500 million of them per year.
>> >
>> > <http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenbertoni/2015/04/15/twinkie-billion-dollar-comeback-hostess-metropoulos-apollo-jhawar/>
>>
>> Oh MY!!!! I know it has been denied here but I am still of the opinion
>> that the preference for sweet things in US is far greater than in UK.
>
> Hard to say. 500 million Twinkies is a little more than 1 per person per
> year.
> I certainly haven't eaten my share in decades.
>
> I doubt the deep-fried Twinkie can really compete with the deep-fried
> Mars bar.

lol not something I have ever experienced. It isn't a general thing, just
what some fish shops in Scotland make. It is totally unknown (so far as I
am aware) in England:)


>
> Still, our sugar consumption is high: 126.4 grams per day,
> compared with 93.2 grams per day in the U.K.
>
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/02/05/where-people-around-the-world-eat-the-most-sugar-and-fat/>
>
> I wonder if that includes high-fructose corn syrup, or just sucrose, or
> all
> sources. A big portion of U.S. sugar consumption is sodas; a lot of
> people
> drink Coke or Pepsi instead of coffee or tea.

Here are some stats which may prove me entirely wrong:)))

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-27941325



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Janet B wrote:
>
> We had both Twinkies and Cupcakes after they were brought back. They
> are half the size, the cake tends to be dry, the filling is not nice.
> Occasionally, when we would be getting gas for the truck, I used to
> go into the convenience store and get a package of Hostess cupcakes.
> The filling, frosting and cake were still good but half the size of
> those in our younger years. Not so any more.

I agree and disagree.
The Hostess cakes are smaller now (as are many products compared to
years ago) but nowhere near half the size. They might have *seemed*
twice as big when we were small kids.

Just last month, I bought a box of each. With sale price and a good
coupon, I paid $1.50 per box. The Twinkies had 10 in a box so each one
cost 15 cents. The chocolate cupcakes have 8 in a box for a price of
just under 19 cents each. That's a very cheap snack.

They tasted just as good as I remember from the past. Twinkies have
always been a tad bland but ok occasionally. The chocolate cupcakes
however have a nice rich taste. Just one of those for a dessert or a
late snack was very satisfying to me. As always, YMMV.

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On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 18:30:18 -0600, Janet B >
wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 18:16:13 -0400, Boron Elgar

>>
>>
>>I *love* sour cherry jam. Hard to find these days.
>
>A couple of years ago I complained to Costco that recently every box o
>Campari tomatoes that I got had soft spots and spoiled quickly. I
>received an apology letter from Costco and one from the tomato grower.
>He asked for my address so that he could send me some tomatoes. A
>week later 4 cases of Campari tomatoes showed up (that's a huge lot of
>tomatoes). Everyone in the neighborhood was very appreciative :)
>Janet US

They are my favorite store, as you know.

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Janet wrote:
>
> The filling of lemon meringue pie includes cornflour. so it is not
> lemon curd.
>
> (Note for Sleepswithferret; My lemon curd won first prize again this
> year)

Very funny because I *was* planning to ask if you won a blue ribbon
for that too.

Let me say, Congratulations to you! You are evidently a good cook. Too
bad you won't share any recipes or at least a few pictures with us.

:-D

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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Janet wrote:
>>
>> The filling of lemon meringue pie includes cornflour. so it is not
>> lemon curd.
>>
>> (Note for Sleepswithferret; My lemon curd won first prize again this
>> year)
>
> Very funny because I *was* planning to ask if you won a blue ribbon
> for that too.
>
> Let me say, Congratulations to you! You are evidently a good cook. Too
> bad you won't share any recipes or at least a few pictures with us.

lol


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On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 00:36:27 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 09:31:58 -0400, Dave Smith
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> I can get dried orange zest at the Bulk Barn but I have never been
> >> impressed with it. Now that I don't have a gall bladder and can eat
> >> oranges, we have them on hand most of the time.
> >
> > I'd be candying my orange rinds if I had that kind of supply. As it
> > is, I freeze them and candy them when I get enough to make it
> > worthwhile.
>
> I have never had any luck with candying them. I just wind up with a sticky
> mess.

Sorry to hear it. I consider candied orange rinds to be one of those
no brainer type things to do. Maybe that dehydrator you own could
come in handy at the end - to dry it out enough to roll in sugar or
dip in chocolate.

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On 2015-09-23 9:59 AM, sf wrote:

>> I have never had any luck with candying them. I just wind up with a sticky
>> mess.
>
> Sorry to hear it. I consider candied orange rinds to be one of those
> no brainer type things to do. Maybe that dehydrator you own could
> come in handy at the end - to dry it out enough to roll in sugar or
> dip in chocolate.
>

That may because you are a fan of candied oranges. I am too, but a lot
of people are not. My father in law used to get a box of candied citrus
fruits every Christmas from a friend in South Africa. I think he and I
were the only ones who liked them.

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On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 11:44:17 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-09-23 9:59 AM, sf wrote:
>
> That may because you are a fan of candied oranges. I am too, but a lot
> of people are not. My father in law used to get a box of candied citrus
> fruits every Christmas from a friend in South Africa. I think he and I
> were the only ones who liked them.

I love candied citrus. I miss making candied kumquats. When living in Silicon Valley kumquats were very cheap at the farmers' markets. Candying them is easy. Now, if I ever see them, they are expensive and usually not very good.

http://www.richardfisher.com

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On 9/19/2015 9:26 PM, Doris Night wrote:

> I think the problem people have with lemon meringue pies is the fact
> that a good many of them are not home-made. You can buy some truly
> horrid frozen ones around here.
>
> My lemon pies that I make from scratch are extremely good.
>

My lemon pie is so good, it earned a special mention in a spec movie
script for the Flying Karamazov Brothers.

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Helpful person wrote:
>
>I love candied citrus. I miss making candied kumquats. When living in Silicon Valley kumquats were very cheap at the farmers' markets. Candying them is easy. Now, if I ever see them, they are expensive and usually not very good.

You can buy kumquats on line:
http://kumquatgrowers.com/retail.html
If you live in a warm climate you can easily grow your own.

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On 9/24/2015 11:28 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> I guess Manwich is training barbecue sauce for kids.


LOL

+1!

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"dsi1" > wrote in message news:c5e39131-8435-4880-be97-

>The great thing about Zero bars is that it can be shipped to Hawaii without
>the coating melting all to hell. The bad >thing is that my box of Zeros
>seem to be going down faster than the gas gauge on a Hummer.

Yeah, there are some things that I just can't leave alone if I have them in
the house, peanut butter, Zero bars, and Brie cheese.

Cheri

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On 24/09/2015 12:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message news:c5e39131-8435-4880-be97-
>
>> The great thing about Zero bars is that it can be shipped to Hawaii
>> without the coating melting all to hell. The bad >thing is that my box
>> of Zeros seem to be going down faster than the gas gauge on a Hummer.
>
> Yeah, there are some things that I just can't leave alone if I have them
> in the house, peanut butter, Zero bars, and Brie cheese.
>
> Cheri
>
>
I don't have peanut butter in my house either! Repulsive stuff!
On the other hand, Brie or Camembert..........
Graham

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"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message news:c5e39131-8435-4880-be97-
>
>>The great thing about Zero bars is that it can be shipped to Hawaii
>>without the coating melting all to hell. The bad >thing is that my box of
>>Zeros seem to be going down faster than the gas gauge on a Hummer.
>
> Yeah, there are some things that I just can't leave alone if I have them
> in the house, peanut butter, Zero bars, and Brie cheese.

I was about to ask about Zero bars, but on thinking about it, it's better I
don't know:)


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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message news:c5e39131-8435-4880-be97-
>>
>>>The great thing about Zero bars is that it can be shipped to Hawaii
>>>without the coating melting all to hell. The bad >thing is that my box of
>>>Zeros seem to be going down faster than the gas gauge on a Hummer.
>>
>> Yeah, there are some things that I just can't leave alone if I have them
>> in the house, peanut butter, Zero bars, and Brie cheese.
>
> I was about to ask about Zero bars, but on thinking about it, it's better
> I
> don't know:)

Really wonderful candy bars. LOL

Cheri

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"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "dsi1" > wrote in message news:c5e39131-8435-4880-be97-
>>>
>>>>The great thing about Zero bars is that it can be shipped to Hawaii
>>>>without the coating melting all to hell. The bad >thing is that my box
>>>>of
>>>>Zeros seem to be going down faster than the gas gauge on a Hummer.
>>>
>>> Yeah, there are some things that I just can't leave alone if I have them
>>> in the house, peanut butter, Zero bars, and Brie cheese.
>>
>> I was about to ask about Zero bars, but on thinking about it, it's better
>> I
>> don't know:)
>
> Really wonderful candy bars. LOL

Get thee behind me you wicked woman ...


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On 2015-09-24 14:46, graham wrote:

> I don't have peanut butter in my house either! Repulsive stuff!
> On the other hand, Brie or Camembert..........


Peanut butter is handy as bait for mouse traps. If I am out for
breakfast and there is PB in with the jams I take one of them home with
me. I have not bought peanut butter in the house for more than 20 years.

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On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 11:36:34 AM UTC-7, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" <> wrote in message news:c5e39131-8435-4880-be97-
>
> >The great thing about Zero bars is that it can be shipped to Hawaii without
> >the coating melting all to hell. The bad >thing is that my box of Zeros
> >seem to be going down faster than the gas gauge on a Hummer.
>
> Yeah, there are some things that I just can't leave alone if I have them in
> the house, peanut butter, Zero bars, and Brie cheese.
>
> Cheri

I got a box of 24 bars and the 24 are disappearing fast. I'm totally paranoid that someone is coming into my office at night and taking them. OTOH, I guess that's the way it is with scarce resources - they make you go crazy. Next time, I'm tracking the bars!

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On 24/09/2015 7:58 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2015-09-24 14:46, graham wrote:
>
>> I don't have peanut butter in my house either! Repulsive stuff!
>> On the other hand, Brie or Camembert..........
>
>
> Peanut butter is handy as bait for mouse traps.

That's all it's fit for!

If I am out for
> breakfast and there is PB in with the jams I take one of them home with
> me. I have not bought peanut butter in the house for more than 20 years.
>
Thanks for the tip! This is the time of the year that field mice invade
homes and Hanta virus has become a problem on the Prairies.
Graham

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On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 11:44:13 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2015-09-23 9:59 AM, sf wrote:
>
> >> I have never had any luck with candying them. I just wind up with a sticky
> >> mess.
> >
> > Sorry to hear it. I consider candied orange rinds to be one of those
> > no brainer type things to do. Maybe that dehydrator you own could
> > come in handy at the end - to dry it out enough to roll in sugar or
> > dip in chocolate.
> >
>
> That may because you are a fan of candied oranges. I am too, but a lot
> of people are not. My father in law used to get a box of candied citrus
> fruits every Christmas from a friend in South Africa. I think he and I
> were the only ones who liked them.

Let's put it this way: I make what I like. If someone else likes it
too, I'm happy - but it's not a problem if they don't like it, because
there's more for me. :)

--

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On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 08:49:39 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 24/09/2015 7:58 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2015-09-24 14:46, graham wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have peanut butter in my house either! Repulsive stuff!
>>> On the other hand, Brie or Camembert..........
>>
>>
>> Peanut butter is handy as bait for mouse traps.
>
>That's all it's fit for!

No satay sauce for you?

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On 2015-09-25 6:33 PM, Je�us wrote:

>>>> I don't have peanut butter in my house either! Repulsive stuff!
>>>> On the other hand, Brie or Camembert..........
>>>
>>>
>>> Peanut butter is handy as bait for mouse traps.
>>
>> That's all it's fit for!
>
> No satay sauce for you?
>


In all fairness, you can but spicy peanut sauce.

On a related note... I could not eat peanuts or nuts of any type for a
long time because ..... let's just say that they caused problems for me.
Then I had my gall bladder out and they seem not to bother me as much.

Last night our kayaking club had an early evening paddle. I was planning
to pick up something for supper on the way home. I had been thiking of
tacos, but at the last minute I considered Thai food from a place in
Niagara Falls that a friend who had lived in Thailand said was the most
authentic. I stopped there and got an order of Pad Thai.

I had had Pad Thai several times before, but this stuff was incredible.

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On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 18:47:26 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2015-09-25 6:33 PM, Je?us wrote:
>
>>>>> I don't have peanut butter in my house either! Repulsive stuff!
>>>>> On the other hand, Brie or Camembert..........
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Peanut butter is handy as bait for mouse traps.
>>>
>>> That's all it's fit for!
>>
>> No satay sauce for you?
>>
>
>
>In all fairness, you can but spicy peanut sauce.
>
>On a related note... I could not eat peanuts or nuts of any type for a
>long time because ..... let's just say that they caused problems for me.
> Then I had my gall bladder out and they seem not to bother me as much.
>
>Last night our kayaking club had an early evening paddle. I was planning
>to pick up something for supper on the way home. I had been thiking of
>tacos, but at the last minute I considered Thai food from a place in
>Niagara Falls that a friend who had lived in Thailand said was the most
>authentic. I stopped there and got an order of Pad Thai.
>
>I had had Pad Thai several times before, but this stuff was incredible.

Sometimes I wish we had such things here...

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On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 3:59:22 AM UTC-10, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 00:36:27 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> > "sf" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 09:31:58 -0400, Dave Smith
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I can get dried orange zest at the Bulk Barn but I have never been
> > >> impressed with it. Now that I don't have a gall bladder and can eat
> > >> oranges, we have them on hand most of the time.
> > >
> > > I'd be candying my orange rinds if I had that kind of supply. As it
> > > is, I freeze them and candy them when I get enough to make it
> > > worthwhile.
> >
> > I have never had any luck with candying them. I just wind up with a sticky
> > mess.
>
> Sorry to hear it. I consider candied orange rinds to be one of those
> no brainer type things to do. Maybe that dehydrator you own could
> come in handy at the end - to dry it out enough to roll in sugar or
> dip in chocolate.
>
> --
>
> sf

I purchased some dried mandarins from Trader Joe's and it's great! Enrobing these things in chocolate would be a winner for sure.