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On 5/24/2015 10:08 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >> ... >>> >>> >>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> >>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had >>>>> a lot >>>>> of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge >>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how >>>>> people >>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised. >>>>> >>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening! >>>> >>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's >>>> food, >>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% >>>> cutback >>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last >>>> year we >>>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full >>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants. >>>> >>> >>> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water >>> come from? >> >> >> Nowhere. That's the problem and that is where we are headed. It >> could get very ugly. > > Are there many posters here from California? I haven't heard anyone > speaking about it. Are you not all very worried? > > I suspect many are worried enough to be stunned to silence. |
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"Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message ... > On 5/24/2015 10:08 AM, Ophelia wrote: >> >> >> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >> ... >>> >>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> >>>> >>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had >>>>>> a lot >>>>>> of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the huge >>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how >>>>>> people >>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening! >>>>> >>>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's >>>>> food, >>>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% >>>>> cutback >>>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last >>>>> year we >>>>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full >>>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants. >>>>> >>>> >>>> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water >>>> come from? >>> >>> >>> Nowhere. That's the problem and that is where we are headed. It >>> could get very ugly. >> >> Are there many posters here from California? I haven't heard anyone >> speaking about it. Are you not all very worried? >> >> > I suspect many are worried enough to be stunned to silence. Especially since they were releasing all tha water from dams a couple of years ago. Idiots. Cheri |
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On 5/24/2015 12:14 PM, Cheri wrote:
> > "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message > ... >> On 5/24/2015 10:08 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> >>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had >>>>>>> a lot >>>>>>> of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the >>>>>>> huge >>>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how >>>>>>> people >>>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening! >>>>>> >>>>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's >>>>>> food, >>>>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% >>>>>> cutback >>>>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last >>>>>> year we >>>>>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full >>>>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water >>>>> come from? >>>> >>>> >>>> Nowhere. That's the problem and that is where we are headed. It >>>> could get very ugly. >>> >>> Are there many posters here from California? I haven't heard anyone >>> speaking about it. Are you not all very worried? >>> >>> >> I suspect many are worried enough to be stunned to silence. > > Especially since they were releasing all tha water from dams a couple of > years ago. Idiots. > > Cheri > > The Smelt caper? http://spectator.org/articles/40982/...middle-drought ANYONE DOUBTING THAT OUR nation's environmental and economic policies can get seriously out of whack from time to time need only look to the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta. Located in California's Central Valley, between the state's capital city and Stockton, it is where the American, Mokelumne, Cosumnes, and Calaveras Rivers flow into the larger Sacramento and San Joaquin. It is also where the saddest agricultural saga since the Depression-era Dust Bowl is now playing, as the waters from those rivers flow beneath San Francisco's Golden Gate Bridge and out to sea. As they flow unimpeded to the Pacific, those waters are also washing out to sea the livelihoods of tens of thousands of farm workers and agricultural business owners. It is an economic as well as human tragedy. Further curbs may come, on behalf of the delta smelt as well as other species. The USFWS and the California Fish and Game Commission are moving forward with threatened and endangered designations for Chinook salmon, steelhead, and the longfin smelt, presaging further water reductions for agriculture. The result of these irrigation pump shutdowns is that hundreds of thousands of acres of farmland are being forced out of production. Kern County authorities estimated that 145,000 of the 850,000 acres that are typically irrigated were idled or under-irrigated last year. The loss was pegged at $100 million in the county alone. A study by UC-Davis estimated San Joaquin Valley farm revenue losses to range from $482 million to $647 million. Total California agricultural economic losses could hit $3 billion this year. But those are just abstract financial numbers. Behind those figures are real people, farmers and business owners and families who are losing livelihoods and are being forced to uproot and flee. The UC-Davis study conservatively suggested 24,000 to 32,000 Central Valley jobs were destroyed by environmental rulings designed to protect endangered wildlife. It further estimated job losses could approach 80,000 or more if restrictions intensified. Communities are withering for a government-imposed lack of water. It is little exaggeration to say that the farmers of the most valuable farming region in the nation are facing extinction. |
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"Cheri" > wrote in message ... > > "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message > ... >> On 5/24/2015 10:08 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> >>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had >>>>>>> a lot >>>>>>> of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the >>>>>>> huge >>>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how >>>>>>> people >>>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening! >>>>>> >>>>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's >>>>>> food, >>>>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% >>>>>> cutback >>>>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last >>>>>> year we >>>>>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full >>>>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water >>>>> come from? >>>> >>>> >>>> Nowhere. That's the problem and that is where we are headed. It >>>> could get very ugly. >>> >>> Are there many posters here from California? I haven't heard anyone >>> speaking about it. Are you not all very worried? >>> >>> >> I suspect many are worried enough to be stunned to silence. > > Especially since they were releasing all tha water from dams a couple of > years ago. Idiots. Without water flowing to the sea you get dry rivers and salt water polluted deltas. You cannot have an excosystem without flowing water. Damning every drop just makes the problem very much worse. A great many creatures besides humans need that water, too. And unlike humans they cannot do with less. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com |
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On 5/24/2015 12:31 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Cheri" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On 5/24/2015 10:08 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had >>>>>>>> a lot >>>>>>>> of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the >>>>>>>> huge >>>>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how >>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's >>>>>>> food, >>>>>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% >>>>>>> cutback >>>>>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last >>>>>>> year we >>>>>>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in full >>>>>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water >>>>>> come from? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nowhere. That's the problem and that is where we are headed. It >>>>> could get very ugly. >>>> >>>> Are there many posters here from California? I haven't heard anyone >>>> speaking about it. Are you not all very worried? >>>> >>>> >>> I suspect many are worried enough to be stunned to silence. >> >> Especially since they were releasing all tha water from dams a couple of >> years ago. Idiots. > > Without water flowing to the sea you get dry rivers and salt water polluted > deltas. You cannot have an excosystem without flowing water. Damning every > drop just makes the problem very much worse. A great many creatures besides > humans need that water, too. And unlike humans they cannot do with less. Feeding needed runoff with gray water is the key. |
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"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message ... > > "Cheri" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On 5/24/2015 10:08 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have had >>>>>>>> a lot >>>>>>>> of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the >>>>>>>> huge >>>>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how >>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's >>>>>>> food, >>>>>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% >>>>>>> cutback >>>>>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last >>>>>>> year we >>>>>>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in >>>>>>> full >>>>>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your water >>>>>> come from? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nowhere. That's the problem and that is where we are headed. It >>>>> could get very ugly. >>>> >>>> Are there many posters here from California? I haven't heard anyone >>>> speaking about it. Are you not all very worried? >>>> >>>> >>> I suspect many are worried enough to be stunned to silence. >> >> Especially since they were releasing all tha water from dams a couple of >> years ago. Idiots. > > Without water flowing to the sea you get dry rivers and salt water > polluted deltas. You cannot have an excosystem without flowing water. > Damning every drop just makes the problem very much worse. A great many > creatures besides humans need that water, too. And unlike humans they > cannot do with less. No one said they should dam every drop, but excess releasing is bad, which they did admit. Cheri |
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"Cheri" > wrote in message ... > > "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "Cheri" > wrote in message >> ... >>> >>> "Cabrito del Bosque" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On 5/24/2015 10:08 AM, Ophelia wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> I have noticed several people here mention California. We have >>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>> a lot >>>>>>>>> of stuff on tv about the lack of water there. We were shown the >>>>>>>>> huge >>>>>>>>> reservoirs with very little water in them. They were showing how >>>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>>> with lush grass and full swimming pools were being demonised. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is anyone here affected? It sounds very frightening! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Everyone in CA is affected. And since CA grows half the country's >>>>>>>> food, >>>>>>>> half the country is affected as well. My town is ordering a 35% >>>>>>>> cutback >>>>>>>> on water use with fines for offenders. NASA says this is the last >>>>>>>> year we >>>>>>>> will have water in the reservoirs. So next year we should be in >>>>>>>> full >>>>>>>> anarchy mode I expect. Fox News blames it on illegal immigrants. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So if there will be no water in the reservoirs, where will your >>>>>>> water >>>>>>> come from? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Nowhere. That's the problem and that is where we are headed. It >>>>>> could get very ugly. >>>>> >>>>> Are there many posters here from California? I haven't heard anyone >>>>> speaking about it. Are you not all very worried? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I suspect many are worried enough to be stunned to silence. >>> >>> Especially since they were releasing all tha water from dams a couple of >>> years ago. Idiots. >> >> Without water flowing to the sea you get dry rivers and salt water >> polluted deltas. You cannot have an excosystem without flowing water. >> Damning every drop just makes the problem very much worse. A great many >> creatures besides humans need that water, too. And unlike humans they >> cannot do with less. > > No one said they should dam every drop, but excess releasing is bad, which > they did admit. Excess is what industry called it. People like my sister who worked as a scientist with DWR for 15 years said it was not nearly enough to sustain the delta. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com |
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