Has anyone tried this blender? It is being compared to Vitamix and Blendtec - and is half the price. It is not worth half price if it doesn't work well though.
I do not see a lot of reviews yet.

Thanks for any info!

On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 09:00:26 -0700 (PDT), Bk1010
> wrote:

> Has anyone tried this blender? It is being compared to Vitamix and Blendtec - and is half the price. It is not worth half price if it doesn't work well though.
> I do not see a lot of reviews yet.
>
> Thanks for any info!

Never heard of it, but I haven't heard of Blendtec either. A quick
Google turned up a comparison of Pasternak to Vitamix.
http://steamykitchen.com/39157-givea...r-blender.html
The blogger is very well known and I'd believe what she has to say.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On 3/21/2015 12:30 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 09:00:26 -0700 (PDT), Bk1010
> > wrote:
>
>> Has anyone tried this blender? It is being compared to Vitamix and Blendtec - and is half the price. It is not worth half price if it doesn't work well though.
>> I do not see a lot of reviews yet.
>>
>> Thanks for any info!
>
> Never heard of it, but I haven't heard of Blendtec either. A quick
> Google turned up a comparison of Pasternak to Vitamix.
> http://steamykitchen.com/39157-givea...r-blender.html
> The blogger is very well known and I'd believe what she has to say.
>
The OP's email address includes the word 'salton'.
Salton sells the Harley Pasternack blender...

On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 14:16:38 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 3/21/2015 12:30 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 09:00:26 -0700 (PDT), Bk1010
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Has anyone tried this blender? It is being compared to Vitamix and Blendtec - and is half the price. It is not worth half price if it doesn't work well though.
> >> I do not see a lot of reviews yet.
> >>
> >> Thanks for any info!
> >
> > Never heard of it, but I haven't heard of Blendtec either. A quick
> > Google turned up a comparison of Pasternak to Vitamix.
> > http://steamykitchen.com/39157-givea...r-blender.html
> > The blogger is very well known and I'd believe what she has to say.
> >
> The OP's email address includes the word 'salton'.
> Salton sells the Harley Pasternack blender...

You actually spent time researching that?

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On 3/21/2015 2:47 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 14:16:38 -0400, S Viemeister
> > wrote:
>
>> On 3/21/2015 12:30 PM, sf wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 09:00:26 -0700 (PDT), Bk1010
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has anyone tried this blender? It is being compared to Vitamix and Blendtec - and is half the price. It is not worth half price if it doesn't work well though.
>>>> I do not see a lot of reviews yet.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any info!
>>>
>>> Never heard of it, but I haven't heard of Blendtec either. A quick
>>> Google turned up a comparison of Pasternak to Vitamix.
>>> http://steamykitchen.com/39157-givea...r-blender.html
>>> The blogger is very well known and I'd believe what she has to say.
>>>
>> The OP's email address includes the word 'salton'.
>> Salton sells the Harley Pasternack blender...
>
> You actually spent time researching that?
>
Less time than it took you to check that blog.

On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 18:08:14 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

> On 3/21/2015 2:47 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 14:16:38 -0400, S Viemeister
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/21/2015 12:30 PM, sf wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 09:00:26 -0700 (PDT), Bk1010
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Has anyone tried this blender? It is being compared to Vitamix and Blendtec - and is half the price. It is not worth half price if it doesn't work well though.
> >>>> I do not see a lot of reviews yet.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for any info!
> >>>
> >>> Never heard of it, but I haven't heard of Blendtec either. A quick
> >>> Google turned up a comparison of Pasternak to Vitamix.
> >>> http://steamykitchen.com/39157-givea...r-blender.html
> >>> The blogger is very well known and I'd believe what she has to say.
> >>>
> >> The OP's email address includes the word 'salton'.
> >> Salton sells the Harley Pasternack blender...
> >
> > You actually spent time researching that?
> >
> Less time than it took you to check that blog.

Nope. That blog was the first entry on Google.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

Copy of vitamix, but a poor, noisy copy. Pasternak is much cheaper, but you will get what you pay for. The noise level of Pasternak is much louder than the vitamix.

On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 9:00:29 AM UTC-7, Bk1010 wrote:
> Has anyone tried this blender? It is being compared to Vitamix and Blendtec - and is half the price. It is not worth half price if it doesn't work well though.
> I do not see a lot of reviews yet.
>
> Thanks for any info!

Yes! I tried it extensively compared directly to a Vitamix! I have tested many mid-tier priced blenders and was actually really impressed by the Harley Pasternak Blender, that's why I agreed to write a review of it for my website Blender Babes. It was able to do almost everything as well as a Vitamix that I tried (except my berry seeds test), just took a little bit longer. You can learn more about it he
http://www.blenderbabes.com/blender-...ew-vs-vitamix/

Hope that helps!

On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 11:42:02 AM UTC-7, wrote:
> Copy of vitamix, but a poor, noisy copy. Pasternak is much cheaper, but you will get what you pay for. The noise level of Pasternak is much louder than the vitamix.

Did you actually own one? I really can't find much on this blender, at least information that I trust. Thx

evagajda55 wrote:
>stevenmo wrote:
>> Copy of vitamix, but a poor, noisy copy. Pasternak is much cheaper, but you will get what you pay
>for. The noise level of Pasternak is much louder than the vitamix.
>
>Did you actually own one? I really can't find much on this blender, at least information that I trust. Thx

This is the the best blender I've ever used:
http://mccauleyandson.com/lightbox2....vin4_800_2.jpg

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> This is the the best blender I've ever used:
> http://mccauleyandson.com/lightbox2....vin4_800_2.jpg

LOL Good one, Sheldon. That made me laugh.

wrote:
>> Copy of vitamix, but a poor, noisy copy. Pasternak is much cheaper, but you will get what you pay for. The noise level of Pasternak is much louder than the vitamix.
>
>Did you actually own one? I really can't find much on this blender, at least information that I trust. Thx

This is the the best blender I've ever used:
http://mccauleyandson.com/lightbox2....vin4_800_2.jpg

On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 08:27:03 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> This is the the best blender I've ever used:
>> http://mccauleyandson.com/lightbox2....vin4_800_2.jpg
>
>LOL Good one, Sheldon. That made me laugh.

I actually owned a 4 hp Evinrude, used it on my 18' aluminum Grumman
canoe, made trolling for fish on the LI Sound a lot less effort. I
had one of those 55 gallon drums too, used to flush out sea water.

On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 11:31:36 -0500, Brooklyn1
> wrote:

>On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 08:27:03 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>> This is the the best blender I've ever used:
>>> http://mccauleyandson.com/lightbox2....vin4_800_2.jpg
>>
>>LOL Good one, Sheldon. That made me laugh.
>
>I actually owned a 4 hp Evinrude, used it on my 18' aluminum Grumman
>canoe, made trolling for fish on the LI Sound a lot less effort. I
>had one of those 55 gallon drums too, used to flush out sea water.
You don't have a clue, do you. You're an asshole who thinks his shit
doesn't stink.
--
Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 08:27:03 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> >Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >>
> >> This is the the best blender I've ever used:
> >> http://mccauleyandson.com/lightbox2....vin4_800_2.jpg
> >
> >LOL Good one, Sheldon. That made me laugh.
>
> I actually owned a 4 hp Evinrude, used it on my 18' aluminum Grumman
> canoe, made trolling for fish on the LI Sound a lot less effort.

I LOVE the aluminum Grumman canoes. I would buy one today if I had a
place to keep it. I wouldn't put a motor on it though.


>I had one of those 55 gallon drums too, used to flush out sea water.

Ummm....what? What are you talking about there? ;-O

Gary wrote:
>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>Gary wrote:
>> >Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> This is the the best blender I've ever used:
>> >> http://mccauleyandson.com/lightbox2....vin4_800_2.jpg
>> >
>> >LOL Good one, Sheldon. That made me laugh.
>>
>> I actually owned a 4 hp Evinrude, used it on my 18' aluminum Grumman
>> canoe, made trolling for fish on the LI Sound a lot less effort.
>
>I LOVE the aluminum Grumman canoes. I would buy one today if I had a
>place to keep it. I wouldn't put a motor on it though.

The motor isn't mounted permanently, there're clamp-on brackets
that're used to mount small outboard motors on canoes:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=sr_1_2&sr=8-2
There are also square back canoes, those have a permanent transom for
motor mounting:
http://www.amazon.com/Grumman-17-Squ...lat+back+canoe

>>I had one of those 55 gallon drums too, used to flush out sea water.
>
>Ummm....what? What are you talking about there? ;-O

When water cooled outboard motors are used in salt water they need to
be flushed out with fresh water before storing or they will corrode.
Those drums are handy for doing tune-ups too, also when done flushing
drain the drum with a spigot at the bottom and it makes a great place
to store the motor... outboard motors are not meant to be laid down on
their side. Um, you live near the ocean, how come you don't know
about marine motors?

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> Um, you live near the ocean, how come you don't know
> about marine motors?

Because I don't have a boat and never did have one except for a small
oar-powered one. Sportyak 2 if you want to look it up but that was
when I was age 16.

I would love an aluminum grumman canoe though. Just with a paddle to
paddle around the shore in a nearby state park early morning when the
water is all calm. I do have a canoeing merit badge from boy scouts
but that one sure goes way back in time. heheh

Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >
> > Um, you live near the ocean, how come you don't know
> > about marine motors?
>
> Because I don't have a boat and never did have one except for a small
> oar-powered one. Sportyak 2 if you want to look it up but that was
> when I was age 16.
>
> I would love an aluminum grumman canoe though. Just with a paddle to
> paddle around the shore in a nearby state park early morning when the
> water is all calm. I do have a canoeing merit badge from boy scouts
> but that one sure goes way back in time. heheh

Have to laugh that there is an assumption that folks who live near the
coast all have boats and know about such.

Carol

--

On 11/22/2015 9:18 AM, Gary wrote:
> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> Um, you live near the ocean, how come you don't know
>> about marine motors?
>
To answer Sheldon's question, it is not a requirement if someone lives
near the ocean they must own a boat or know anything about boat motors.

> Because I don't have a boat and never did have one except for a small
> oar-powered one. Sportyak 2 if you want to look it up but that was
> when I was age 16.
>
I've seen a number of people kayaking near where I live. Likely people
with canoes, too. They're traversing tributaries off the ocean. They
don't have outboard motors.

Jill

On 11/22/2015 10:33 AM, cshenk wrote:
> Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>> Um, you live near the ocean, how come you don't know
>>> about marine motors?
>>
>> Because I don't have a boat and never did have one except for a small
>> oar-powered one. Sportyak 2 if you want to look it up but that was
>> when I was age 16.
>>
>> I would love an aluminum grumman canoe though. Just with a paddle to
>> paddle around the shore in a nearby state park early morning when the
>> water is all calm. I do have a canoeing merit badge from boy scouts
>> but that one sure goes way back in time. heheh
>
> Have to laugh that there is an assumption that folks who live near the
> coast all have boats and know about such.
>
> Carol
>
I live on an island with a marina. I don't know a darn thing about
boats or boat motors.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> I live on an island with a marina.

You are a worthless sow!

jmcquown wrote:
> They don't have outboard motors.
>
> Jill

The terrorists?


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...side/cron.html

Dec. 14, 1999 + Ressam arrested near Seattle

Ressam says that on the morning of Dec. 14, he called Meskini and told
him he would be in Seattle that evening. That afternoon, he took a ferry
from Victoria, B.C., to Port Angeles, Wash., with more than 100 pounds
of explosives stashed in the wheelbed of the trunk of his rental car.
His accomplice, Dahoumane, did not travel with him.

At Victoria, U.S. immigration pre-clearance agents were mildly
suspicious of Ressam. They made him open his trunk, but saw nothing. He
presented his fake Canadian passport, and the computer check turned up
no previous convictions or warrants in the name of Benni Noris. Ressam
drove his rental car, with its concealed bomb, onto the ferry heading
for Washington state. Upon his arrival at Port Angeles, a U.S. customs
agent became suspicious of his hesitant answers to her questions, and
she asked for identification. Agents began searching the car. As they
discovered the explosive materials -- which they at first took to be
drugs -- in the trunk of the car, Ressam tried to run away. He was
caught and arrested.

Aftermath and Sept. 11, 2001

After Ressam's arrest was televised, an urgent call to Meskini came from
Haouari in Montreal. Haouari was recorded telling Meskini to change his
phone number, beeper, and cell phone and to leave immediately. Police
watched as Meskini ripped up airline receipts and bank machine slips and
threw them into a nearby dumpster. The FBI retrieved the evidence, and
both men were arrested hours later. Meskini entered into a plea
agreement in which he admitted conspiring with Ressam and testified
against him at trial. Haouari was extradited to the U.S. from Canada and
put on trial in New York.

On April 6, 2001, after a four-week trial in U.S. District Court in Los
Angeles, Ressam was convicted of nine counts, including conspiracy to
commit an international terrorist act, explosives smuggling, and lying
to customs officials. Facing up to 130 years in prison, Ressam agreed to
cooperate with prosecutors, providing information about his activities
and those of his terrorist network. As part of the agreement, he
testified against Haouari at trial. His sentencing has been postponed
until February 2002. Also on April 6, Ressam was convicted in absentia
in France and sentenced to five years for conspiring to commit terrorist
acts there.

Abdelmajid Dahoumane escaped to Afghanistan. The U.S. State Department
issued a reward of up to $5 million for information leading to his
arrest and conviction. He was later caught by Algerian security forces
and convicted on terrorism-related charges there.

Just days after the terrorist attacks in the U.S. on Sept. 11, 2001,
investigators interrogated Ressam at the federal detention center near
Seattle. They reportedly showed him pictures of the 19 hijackers. He
said he knew none of them but did provide other names of people in
so-called "sleeper cells" in North America. Ressam has also added
significant new information about Al Qaeda's interest in chemical and
biological weapons.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.1324305

U.S. and Canada foil Al Qaeda terrorist plot to derail New York to
Toronto passenger train, two suspects arrested
The suspects, who had planned the attacks more than a year, appear
unrelated to the Boston Marathon bombers.

Two suspected Al Qaeda terrorists were busted Monday in Canada before
they could wreak havoc on the rails by blowing up a New York-to-Toronto
passenger train.

cshenk wrote:
> Have to laugh

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...side/cron.html

Dec. 14, 1999 + Ressam arrested near Seattle

Ressam says that on the morning of Dec. 14, he called Meskini and told
him he would be in Seattle that evening. That afternoon, he took a ferry
from Victoria, B.C., to Port Angeles, Wash., with more than 100 pounds
of explosives stashed in the wheelbed of the trunk of his rental car.
His accomplice, Dahoumane, did not travel with him.

At Victoria, U.S. immigration pre-clearance agents were mildly
suspicious of Ressam. They made him open his trunk, but saw nothing. He
presented his fake Canadian passport, and the computer check turned up
no previous convictions or warrants in the name of Benni Noris. Ressam
drove his rental car, with its concealed bomb, onto the ferry heading
for Washington state. Upon his arrival at Port Angeles, a U.S. customs
agent became suspicious of his hesitant answers to her questions, and
she asked for identification. Agents began searching the car. As they
discovered the explosive materials -- which they at first took to be
drugs -- in the trunk of the car, Ressam tried to run away. He was
caught and arrested.

Aftermath and Sept. 11, 2001

After Ressam's arrest was televised, an urgent call to Meskini came from
Haouari in Montreal. Haouari was recorded telling Meskini to change his
phone number, beeper, and cell phone and to leave immediately. Police
watched as Meskini ripped up airline receipts and bank machine slips and
threw them into a nearby dumpster. The FBI retrieved the evidence, and
both men were arrested hours later. Meskini entered into a plea
agreement in which he admitted conspiring with Ressam and testified
against him at trial. Haouari was extradited to the U.S. from Canada and
put on trial in New York.

On April 6, 2001, after a four-week trial in U.S. District Court in Los
Angeles, Ressam was convicted of nine counts, including conspiracy to
commit an international terrorist act, explosives smuggling, and lying
to customs officials. Facing up to 130 years in prison, Ressam agreed to
cooperate with prosecutors, providing information about his activities
and those of his terrorist network. As part of the agreement, he
testified against Haouari at trial. His sentencing has been postponed
until February 2002. Also on April 6, Ressam was convicted in absentia
in France and sentenced to five years for conspiring to commit terrorist
acts there.

Abdelmajid Dahoumane escaped to Afghanistan. The U.S. State Department
issued a reward of up to $5 million for information leading to his
arrest and conviction. He was later caught by Algerian security forces
and convicted on terrorism-related charges there.

Just days after the terrorist attacks in the U.S. on Sept. 11, 2001,
investigators interrogated Ressam at the federal detention center near
Seattle. They reportedly showed him pictures of the 19 hijackers. He
said he knew none of them but did provide other names of people in
so-called "sleeper cells" in North America. Ressam has also added
significant new information about Al Qaeda's interest in chemical and
biological weapons.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.1324305

U.S. and Canada foil Al Qaeda terrorist plot to derail New York to
Toronto passenger train, two suspects arrested
The suspects, who had planned the attacks more than a year, appear
unrelated to the Boston Marathon bombers.

Two suspected Al Qaeda terrorists were busted Monday in Canada before
they could wreak havoc on the rails by blowing up a New York-to-Toronto
passenger train.

Gary wrote:
> sure goes way back in time. heheh

https://www.austinfoodbank.org/sites...?itok=ROLljz1Z

On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 09:18:16 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> Um, you live near the ocean, how come you don't know
>> about marine motors?
>
>Because I don't have a boat and never did have one except for a small
>oar-powered one. Sportyak 2 if you want to look it up but that was
>when I was age 16.
>
>I would love an aluminum grumman canoe though. Just with a paddle to
>paddle around the shore in a nearby state park early morning when the
>water is all calm. I do have a canoeing merit badge from boy scouts
>but that one sure goes way back in time. heheh

Then one has to assume that you know nothing about seafood either.

Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 09:18:16 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> > Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >>
> >> Um, you live near the ocean, how come you don't know
> >> about marine motors?
> >
> > Because I don't have a boat and never did have one except for a
> > small oar-powered one. Sportyak 2 if you want to look it up but
> > that was when I was age 16.
> >
> > I would love an aluminum grumman canoe though. Just with a paddle to
> > paddle around the shore in a nearby state park early morning when
> > the water is all calm. I do have a canoeing merit badge from boy
> > scouts but that one sure goes way back in time. heheh
>
> Then one has to assume that you know nothing about seafood either.

Why would you assume that because they don't have a boat?



--

On 11/22/2015 5:26 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 09:18:16 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Um, you live near the ocean, how come you don't know
>>>> about marine motors?
>>>
>>> Because I don't have a boat and never did have one except for a
>>> small oar-powered one. Sportyak 2 if you want to look it up but
>>> that was when I was age 16.
>>>
>>> I would love an aluminum grumman canoe though. Just with a paddle to
>>> paddle around the shore in a nearby state park early morning when
>>> the water is all calm. I do have a canoeing merit badge from boy
>>> scouts but that one sure goes way back in time. heheh
>>
>> Then one has to assume that you know nothing about seafood either.
>
> Why would you assume that because they don't have a boat?
>
>
>

Bite it, boat anchor!

cshenk wrote:
>
> Have to laugh that there is an assumption that folks who live near the
> coast all have boats and know about such.

Keep in mind too - he was talking about a motor mounted on a canoe.
Not something that is done often. Plus a canoe is really NOT the
boat of choice for someone that lives on the coast. heheh

cshenk wrote:
>
> Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > Then one has to assume that you know nothing about seafood either.
>
> Why would you assume that because they don't have a boat?

He ASSsumed it. The key word is ass. hahaha

I've lived almost all my life right next to "tidewater." So I know
quite a bit about what lives in the sea where I've lived. Probably
way more than he knows living in upstate NY.

I'm no expert but I do know my local seafood...clams, oysters, blue
crabs, fish of many varieties. I can get all these myself often
so I've tried many different recipes for each. What I don't get
myself, friends often bring me some (fish mainly). If not, I can go
right down to the docks and buy what I want.

One summer, I went crabbing like crazy every chance I got. We ate
all the crab we wanted all season long (June - early September)
PLUS we picked out the extra and froze it in 1/2 pound bags.
When crab season ended, we had 28lbs of crabmeat in the freezer.
That winter, we tried lots of different crab recipes.

On 2015-11-23 9:10 AM, Gary wrote:
> cshenk wrote:
>>
>> Have to laugh that there is an assumption that folks who live near the
>> coast all have boats and know about such.
>
> Keep in mind too - he was talking about a motor mounted on a canoe.
> Not something that is done often. Plus a canoe is really NOT the
> boat of choice for someone that lives on the coast. heheh
>


Indeed, a canoe is great for paddling in rivers and small lakes. There
are the odd times when an ocean is calm enough for a canoe, but even a
seemingly calm ocean often has eaves crashing on the shores.

On 11/22/2015 7:26 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 09:18:16 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Um, you live near the ocean, how come you don't know
>>>> about marine motors?
>>>
>>> Because I don't have a boat and never did have one except for a
>>> small oar-powered one. Sportyak 2 if you want to look it up but
>>> that was when I was age 16.
>>>
>>> I would love an aluminum grumman canoe though. Just with a paddle to
>>> paddle around the shore in a nearby state park early morning when
>>> the water is all calm. I do have a canoeing merit badge from boy
>>> scouts but that one sure goes way back in time. heheh
>>
>> Then one has to assume that you know nothing about seafood either.
>
> Why would you assume that because they don't have a boat?
>
>
>
You have to ask when he assumes so much? I have access to fresh shrimp
right off the docks during shrimping season. Other seafood, too. But
hey, I don't own a shrimp boat. LOL

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> I have access to fresh shrimp


And that's just when you change your rancid panties each month....

Dave Smith wrote:
>Gary wrote:
>> cshenk wrote:
>>>
>>> Have to laugh that there is an assumption that folks who live near the
>>> coast all have boats and know about such.
>>
>> Keep in mind too - he was talking about a motor mounted on a canoe.
>> Not something that is done often. Plus a canoe is really NOT the
>> boat of choice for someone that lives on the coast. heheh

Canoes and kayacks are the most popular coastal craft... not everyone
wants to trailor a big barge around... a canoe can easily be carried
and launched by one person.

>Indeed, a canoe is great for paddling in rivers and small lakes. There
>are the odd times when an ocean is calm enough for a canoe, but even a
>seemingly calm ocean often has eaves crashing on the shores.

Canoes are excellent for tidewaters, and a craft built for whitewater
shrugs at ocean waves... millions of people much prefer aluminum
canoes for tidewater and inland waterways that are shallow and filled
with plant growth... Grumman built all their canoes on Long Island.
Long Island is surrounded by seawater and has many small waterways,
many requiring portage... canoe and kayack clubs are very popular
there... I belonged to the canoe club sponsored where I worked.
http://www.lipaddlers.org/

>Gary wrote:
>> cshenk wrote:
>>
>> Have to laugh that there is an assumption that folks who live near the
>> coast all have boats and know about such.

Most anyone who has lived most of their life on a sea coast will know
quite a lot about boating, even if they've never owned a boat.

> Keep in mind too - he was talking about a motor mounted on a canoe.
> Not something that is done often.

Mounting motors on canoes is very popular, most people who own a canoe
will eventually fit it with a motor. I put a motor on my canoe
because my first wife was too lazy to paddle at the lake where we
owned property in NH... thing is it's a fairly large lake and the
motor made it a lot easier to traverse the entire lake.

>Plus a canoe is really NOT the
>>boat of choice for someone that lives on the coast. heheh

An excellent choice... most of NYC's shoreline is estuary (I explored
most of it as a child), as is much of Long Island, the Sound and also
the Great South Bay, the Peconic inlet, and several other areas, most
of the large towns are built at those inlets, what did yoose think the
original natives used to navigate all those waterways, A Christcraft
yacht? Deer swim in those waterways, at certain times whitetail deer
still migrate across the sound to Connecticut and back, and to and
from Plum Island. Many people still follow those routes with canoes
and kayacks. Canoes make excellent coastal fishing craft because they
can easily be safely launched and beached on shallow rocky shores that
would severely damage a larger/heavier craft.
This was a nice weekend getaway, my daughter adn I woul dspend
Thanksgiving at the lake, I had a cabin right on the lake, the cabin
had a very large fireplace for heat but I cooked on a Coleman. One
time itr bebega to snow at night and turned into a blizard, I barely
got us the 7 miles up that dirt road to the highway, all uphill from
that lake. This is an old friend I worked with sitting on the dock,
he passed away three years ago, his wife died last week, I've always
stayed in contact with them and their two kids. I have more photos of
the cabin and the lake but haven't scanned them, I scanned this to
send to their daughter:
http://i65.tinypic.com/iw2ofb.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highla..._New_Hampshire)
Highland lake has a lot of rugged shoreline to explore, even with a
motor on a canoe one could only see a small amount in one weekend.
Scroll down to see a map of the lake:
http://www.lakehouse.com/search.php?cid=584&s_res=AND
Washington, New Hampshire was the first town named after George
Washington:
http://www.washingtonnh.org/Pages/index

Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> cshenk wrote:
> >
> > Brooklyn1 wrote:
> > > Then one has to assume that you know nothing about seafood either.
> >
> > Why would you assume that because they don't have a boat?
>
> He ASSsumed it. The key word is ass. hahaha
>
> I've lived almost all my life right next to "tidewater." So I know
> quite a bit about what lives in the sea where I've lived. Probably
> way more than he knows living in upstate NY.
>
> I'm no expert but I do know my local seafood...clams, oysters, blue
> crabs, fish of many varieties. I can get all these myself often
> so I've tried many different recipes for each. What I don't get
> myself, friends often bring me some (fish mainly). If not, I can go
> right down to the docks and buy what I want.
>
> One summer, I went crabbing like crazy every chance I got. We ate
> all the crab we wanted all season long (June - early September)
> PLUS we picked out the extra and froze it in 1/2 pound bags.
> When crab season ended, we had 28lbs of crabmeat in the freezer.
> That winter, we tried lots of different crab recipes.

Don goes crabbing from various piers too. We have 2 crab pots for it.
Those poor suckers down there are so crowded, they leap into a crab pot
just for some room! ;-)

(For the rest, you know them as Maryland Blue Crab but they are
actually more prolific here I gather).

Don will go out for 2-3 hours and come back with 20 or more of them on
a good trip, 12 or so on a bad one.

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Gary wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> cshenk wrote:
> >
> > Have to laugh that there is an assumption that folks who live near
> > the coast all have boats and know about such.
>
> Keep in mind too - he was talking about a motor mounted on a canoe.
> Not something that is done often. Plus a canoe is really NOT the
> boat of choice for someone that lives on the coast. heheh

Yeah, would be a wee bit rocky at times ya think?

Carol

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Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Dave Smith wrote:
> > Gary wrote:
> >> cshenk wrote:
> > > >
> >>> Have to laugh that there is an assumption that folks who live
> near the >>> coast all have boats and know about such.
> > >
> >> Keep in mind too - he was talking about a motor mounted on a canoe.
> >> Not something that is done often. Plus a canoe is really NOT the
> >> boat of choice for someone that lives on the coast. heheh
>
> Canoes and kayacks are the most popular coastal craft... not everyone
> wants to trailor a big barge around... a canoe can easily be carried
> and launched by one person.
>
> > Indeed, a canoe is great for paddling in rivers and small lakes.
> > There are the odd times when an ocean is calm enough for a canoe,
> > but even a seemingly calm ocean often has eaves crashing on the
> > shores.
>
> Canoes are excellent for tidewaters, and a craft built for whitewater
> shrugs at ocean waves... millions of people much prefer aluminum
> canoes for tidewater and inland waterways that are shallow and filled
> with plant growth... Grumman built all their canoes on Long Island.
> Long Island is surrounded by seawater and has many small waterways,
> many requiring portage... canoe and kayack clubs are very popular
> there... I belonged to the canoe club sponsored where I worked.
> http://www.lipaddlers.org/

Try again Sheldon, sorry but you are really wrong on this one.

They are used INLAND on calmer waters, not in the ocean itself.
Tidewaters too close to the ocean are out too.

Carol

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On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 09:18:16 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>
>> Um, you live near the ocean, how come you don't know
>> about marine motors?
>
>Because I don't have a boat and never did have one except for a small
>oar-powered one. Sportyak 2 if you want to look it up but that was
>when I was age 16.
>
>I would love an aluminum grumman canoe though. Just with a paddle to
>paddle around the shore in a nearby state park early morning when the
>water is all calm. I do have a canoeing merit badge from boy scouts
>but that one sure goes way back in time. heheh

"> You are reaping what you sowed by feeding known trolls, dearie"

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On 11/24/2015 12:26 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 09:18:16 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>
>>> Um, you live near the ocean, how come you don't know
>>> about marine motors?
>>
>> Because I don't have a boat and never did have one except for a small
>> oar-powered one. Sportyak 2 if you want to look it up but that was
>> when I was age 16.
>>
>> I would love an aluminum grumman canoe though. Just with a paddle to
>> paddle around the shore in a nearby state park early morning when the
>> water is all calm. I do have a canoeing merit badge from boy scouts
>> but that one sure goes way back in time. heheh
>
> "> You are reaping what you sowed by feeding known trolls, dearie"
>
> --
> Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127.
> Age 65 (Born 1950) (415) 239-7248. Background Check - Available.
> Record
>
> ID: 47846596.
>
>
>> She cheered Boner on until we arrived at this.

"And I still do"