"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 21/12/2014 1:59 PM, Janet B wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:04:33 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>
>>> On 21/12/2014 10:24 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>> In article >,
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The fact remains that since the advent of those gloves in hospitals
>>>>> infections have risen dramatically.
>>>>
>>>> Though not necessarily because of glove-wearing.
>>>>
>>>> BITGOD, hospital visiting times were limited, child visits to patients
>>>> were not allowed at all (let alone, romping around on and off the floor
>>>> to patients bed), adult visitors were not allowed to touch let alone
>>>> sit
>>>> on beds, kiss and hug patients, bring in food. Patients wore sterilised
>>>> hospital gowns and stayed IN BED; they didn't wander around socialising
>>>> with other sick people.
>>>>
>>>> All that has changed. Those old fashioned rules enforced by strict
>>>> matrons, were aimed at minimising infection and cross contamination
>>>> from
>>>> unhygeinic home practise outside the hospital.
>>>>
>>>> Janet UK
>>>
>>> I was in hospital in September for surgery and was appalled at the
>>> fashionable dress code of the nurses. Hoodies and cargo pants! They
>>> looked as if they had just come in from the street! The only nurse who
>>> came close to dressing properly was Kenyan and had obviously come from
>>> an "old-fashioned" stricter regime.
>>> Graham
>>
>> 'Scrubs' now come in a wide array of styles and colors. Was that what
>> they were wearing or were they in street clothes?
>> Janet US
>>
> Street clothes!!! The cleaners were in scrubs!!!!!
> I can't imagine why hoodies are de rigueur, but they are!
> Graham

I know someone who works for a hospital. She does wear the scrubs of her
choice but said they are not required. She said some people just wear
street clothes.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/21/2014 1:37 PM, sf wrote:
>
>> I found out
>> recently that my local supermarket always has dry ice, which was a big
>> surprise to be because I thought I had to go to the ice distributor
>> for it. So, you never know. Dry ice might be closer than you think.
>>
>
> No, I've looked. Never saw it at a supermarket. I get it at the welding
> supply house. Often used by pharmaceutical shippers too.

Hmmm... Safeway has it here.

On 22/12/2014 6:06 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "graham" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 21/12/2014 2:50 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "graham" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 21/12/2014 8:08 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On 12/21/2014 8:27 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Never bothered me. I'd rather you use your washed hands than a
>>>>>>> glove
>>>>>>> that has picked up all sort of contaminants. You really don't know
>>>>>>> where those gloves may have been.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could be true, but from what I've seen at Publix they don a new
>>>>>> pair of
>>>>>> gloves for each customer at the butcher and fish counters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> That is the proper protocol and I'm sure they follow it in the front
>>>>> counter. How about the guy grinding meat in the back that just
>>>>> dropped
>>>>> his coffee cup on the floor? Or scratched his crotch? All while
>>>>> wearing the same gloves he put on 4 hours ago.
>>>>
>>>> I was in a Chinese bakery once when I heard the baker out back hawk
>>>> and spit!
>>>> I never went back.
>>>
>>> Which would explain why you and I prefer to make everything from scratch
>>> at home)
>>>
>> I've just finished, I think, my xmas baking. 6 dozen almond tarts, 4
>> dozen macaron shells, 2 dozen pink peppercorn/honey madeleines, 2
>> dozen pistachio (gluten free) cookies and 2 dozen "alliterative"
>> cookies. The latter being cashew, chocolate chip, cranberry, crispy
>> cornflake cookies.
>> I think I might bake a batch of chocolate crunch - a treat from school
>> dinners.
>
> Blimey! How many are you feeding) I haven't made as much as that
> since all the kids were at home)
>
Several friends look forward to the almond tarts and my grandson
"inhales" them:-) I also make up selections as gifts. The pistachio
cookies are gluten free and were made for my d-i-l's sisters who are
both cœliacs. As it happens, they are delicious and easy to make,
although pealing the pistachio kernels is fiddly.
Graham

"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:37:00 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2014-12-21 11:26 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> >> I had good advice about drinking Scotch from Lou on the Mary Tyler
>> >> Moore
>> >> Show. You get a nice glass, put a couple cubes of ice in it and then
>> >> add
>> >> some good Scotch. You swirl it around and try it. A little while
>> >> later
>> >> you swirl it around and try it again. When it is just right, you knock
>> >> it back.
>> >>
>> > All I ever heard of if you want a drink "on the rocks" was a couple of
>> > cubes in the glass. Makes sense to me.
>>
>> They usually put way too much ice into drinks. It makes them look
>> bigger. You have to knock them back quickly or the whiskey is water.
>>
>> Most people drink their booze mixed. It is almost comical to see someone
>> worrying about watering down their booze with melted ice when they have
>> already *******ized good liquor with sweet sodas.
>
> The only time I've ever "heard" anyone worry about ice cubes watering
> a drink down is here. Most people don't care one way or the other.

I'm only talking soft drinks here but I hate it when the place has crushed
ice, fills the glass to overflowing with it then puts the soda in. The ice
melts quickly and the soda will get watered down. The same can happen with
tiny ice cubes.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheri" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 12/21/2014 11:15 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 15:32:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not too many magazines in waiting rooms these days. People just use
>>>>> their
>>>>> phones.
>>>>
>>>> Really? There are lots of magazines in waiting rooms around here. In
>>>> the last 6 months or so, I've been in waiting rooms in a Doctor's
>>>> office, a dental hygienist, a dentist, a physiotherapist, and an eye
>>>> doctor. Lots of magazines - including some quite nice ones.
>>>>
>>>> Doris
>>>>
>>> I've seen lots of nice magazines in waiting rooms. Sorry, I never
>>> noticed whether or not people were licking their fingers in order to
>>> turn the pages. I generally take a book with me. It's my book so
>>> yes, if I want to, I can lick my finger to turn the page but I generally
>>> don't need to.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> I bring my Kindle.
>
> I have books on my phone and I read from there.

As long as you're not licking your fingers to turn the pages. ;-)

Cheri

"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 22/12/2014 6:06 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "graham" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 21/12/2014 2:50 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "graham" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 21/12/2014 8:08 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/21/2014 8:27 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Never bothered me. I'd rather you use your washed hands than a
>>>>>>>> glove
>>>>>>>> that has picked up all sort of contaminants. You really don't know
>>>>>>>> where those gloves may have been.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could be true, but from what I've seen at Publix they don a new
>>>>>>> pair of
>>>>>>> gloves for each customer at the butcher and fish counters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is the proper protocol and I'm sure they follow it in the front
>>>>>> counter. How about the guy grinding meat in the back that just
>>>>>> dropped
>>>>>> his coffee cup on the floor? Or scratched his crotch? All while
>>>>>> wearing the same gloves he put on 4 hours ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was in a Chinese bakery once when I heard the baker out back hawk
>>>>> and spit!
>>>>> I never went back.
>>>>
>>>> Which would explain why you and I prefer to make everything from
>>>> scratch
>>>> at home)
>>>>
>>> I've just finished, I think, my xmas baking. 6 dozen almond tarts, 4
>>> dozen macaron shells, 2 dozen pink peppercorn/honey madeleines, 2
>>> dozen pistachio (gluten free) cookies and 2 dozen "alliterative"
>>> cookies. The latter being cashew, chocolate chip, cranberry, crispy
>>> cornflake cookies.
>>> I think I might bake a batch of chocolate crunch - a treat from school
>>> dinners.
>>
>> Blimey! How many are you feeding) I haven't made as much as that
>> since all the kids were at home)
>>
> Several friends look forward to the almond tarts and my grandson "inhales"
> them:-) I also make up selections as gifts. The pistachio cookies are
> gluten free and were made for my d-i-l's sisters who are both cœliacs. As
> it happens, they are delicious and easy to make, although pealing the
> pistachio kernels is fiddly.

Well done You have very lucky recipients))

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"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 12/21/2014 11:15 PM, Doris Night wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 15:32:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not too many magazines in waiting rooms these days. People just use
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> phones.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? There are lots of magazines in waiting rooms around here. In
>>>>> the last 6 months or so, I've been in waiting rooms in a Doctor's
>>>>> office, a dental hygienist, a dentist, a physiotherapist, and an eye
>>>>> doctor. Lots of magazines - including some quite nice ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> Doris
>>>>>
>>>> I've seen lots of nice magazines in waiting rooms. Sorry, I never
>>>> noticed whether or not people were licking their fingers in order to
>>>> turn the pages. I generally take a book with me. It's my book so
>>>> yes, if I want to, I can lick my finger to turn the page but I
>>>> generally don't need to.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> I bring my Kindle.
>>
>> I have books on my phone and I read from there.
>
> As long as you're not licking your fingers to turn the pages. ;-)

Heaven forfend!!!!!!!


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On 2014-12-21, Dave Smith > wrote:
> On 2014-12-21 6:00 PM, sf wrote:

>> The only time I've ever "heard" anyone worry about ice cubes watering
>> a drink down is here. Most people don't care one way or the other.

> Are you serious?

Most ppl buy crap, so making Rite-Aid Bourbon taste better is not high
on the list.

nb

On 2014-12-22, Janet B > wrote:

> that's my drink. 2 cubes and a splash and Scotch.

Yep. Good hootch doesn't need to be in a cocktail or highball. It
works on its own merits.

On 2014-12-22, Doris Night > wrote:

> Really? There are lots of magazines in waiting rooms around here.

Likewise, here. If I see a really interesting magazine or one with a
good recipe, I'll snag it. Gotten a couple good recipes from the
hospital waiting room.

nb

On 22 Dec 2014 15:38:46 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2014-12-22, Doris Night > wrote:
>
>> Really? There are lots of magazines in waiting rooms around here.
>
>Likewise, here. If I see a really interesting magazine or one with a
>good recipe, I'll snag it. Gotten a couple good recipes from the
>hospital waiting room.
>
>nb
Ask at the desk, they will copy the recipes for you
Janet US

On 21 Dec 2014 16:49:58 GMT, notbob > wrote:

> On 2014-12-21, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> > Back in the early 60's I worked in a grocery/butcher shop. Gloves were
> > unheard of back then. Yes, my hands touched every slice of your
> > lunchmeat as I sliced it. I don't recall when gloves became the norm.
>
> No doubt, when glove companies became profitable enough to hire
> lobbyists.
>

Oh, come on. How can you say that with all the gramophones in rfc?

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On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:42:09 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2014-12-21 11:49 AM, notbob wrote:
> > On 2014-12-21, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >
> >> Back in the early 60's I worked in a grocery/butcher shop. Gloves were
> >> unheard of back then. Yes, my hands touched every slice of your
> >> lunchmeat as I sliced it. I don't recall when gloves became the norm.
> >
> > No doubt, when glove companies became profitable enough to hire
> > lobbyists.
>
>
>
> A lot of public health issues have been legislated over the years.
> We never used to see hand sanitizer dispensers in public places, not
> even in hospitals. Now they are everywhere.
>
Antibacterial soap is being banned. Actually it's a chemical called
triclosan that's being banned, mainly because it's connected to the
increase of antibiotic-resistant "superbugs".
http://www.beyondpesticides.org/anti.../triclosan.php

I am not a big user of antibacterial soaps, but I do require the wet
wipes grocery stores put at their entrances because it never fails
that I pick up a cold if I don't use one on my cart handle and the
surrounding area.

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On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 10:38:42 -0800, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 12/21/2014 10:18 AM, Cheri wrote:
> >>
> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On 12/21/2014 10:02 AM, Cheri wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have seen them touch all sorts of things with gloves on. Even
> >>>>> money!
> >>>>
> >>>> I haven't.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheri
> >>>
> >>> Neither have I. The folks who are handling fish/meat at those
> >>> counters don't handle money. You pay for your food at the checkout,
> >>> not at the meat counter.
> >>>
> >>> Jill
> >>
> >> Same where I am in the supermarkets butcher sections.
> >>
> >> Cheri
> >
> > Not only supermarkets. There's a small meat market in town. The man
> > cutting and handling the meat does not man the cash register. He
> > certainly *could* since he's half owner (it's a husband/wife shop). Still,
> > I seriously doubt he'd keep his gloves on if he needed to relieve her at
> > the register.
> >
> > Jill
>
> The only place I've seen the barehand thing is at a small privately owned
> butcher store, two owners. One does and one doesn't handle with bare hands.
> :-)
>
I've seen cashiers using disposable gloves, but they aren't butchers
so the meat they handle is wrapped and ready to go home.

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On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 15:32:20 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Brooklyn1" > wrote in message
.. .
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"graham" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On 20/12/2014 1:10 PM, sf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Saw an interesting segment on The Kitchen called Into It and Over It.
>>>>> My favorite response was from Sunny. She's over people licking their
>>>>> fingers to open plastic bags at the grocery store
>>>>
>>>> Not just plastic bags but paper ones, and to turn the pages of
>>>> newspapers
>>>> and books.
>>>> It's a really disgusting habit!
>>>> Graham
>>>
>>>Really? I have never seen that. Blech.
>>
>> You gotta be kidding, I see people do that all the time, especially
>> with magazines in doctor's waiting rooms, that's why I bring my own
>> reading material, typically I bring a crossword puzzle magazine.
>
>Not too many magazines in waiting rooms these days. People just use their
>phones.

Around here cell phone use is not permitted in doctor's offices...
there are signs saying to go outdoors to use your phone... many
medical waiting rooms have cell phone signal jammers. Public pay
phones were in booths or behind a sound barrier... but cell phone
users are rude, they scream into their phone so annoy everyone around
them and who needs to hear their filthy language. I have no need to
use a phone when I'm not at home, in my entire life I used a pay phone
maybe 4 times... every cell phone conversation I've ever overheard is
nothing but inane gibberish with the foulest of language.

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:13:30 -0700, Janet B >
wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 13:16:51 -0500, Brooklyn1
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >I've seen it at most delis... in fact they remove the gloves, lay them
> >down on an unclean surface to do something and then put the same used
> >gloves back on to slice coldcuts. Next time you're at a deli stay
> >alert and watch, clerks are constantly wiping those gloved hands on
> >their dirty apron. What's the point of gloves when they are
> >constantly picking up dirty handled knives and spoons.
>
> surely you don't think that you can have sterile food, and if you
> could, why? Every single can, box, bottle and package you bring home
> from the store has been handled by someone without gloves. How do you
> open that cryovac'ed package of cheese without 'contaminating' the
> contents or your food?
> What goes on in the kitchen of a restaurant? This argument is all
> about what you see, not what is real.
> Janet US

As far as taking off gloves and reusing them - what a LIAR. They take
their gloves off when they have finished handling your food and have a
box of disposable gloves so they can take out new ones for the new
customer. First he spreads his horsesh*t about "mystery meat" and now
this? That man is a real head case.

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On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 15:43:35 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"notbob" > wrote in message
...
>> On 2014-12-20, jmcquown > wrote:
>>
>>> LOL Everyone needs to break out their rubber fingers!
>>
>> I recall an episode when a buddy and myself were shopping at a sprmkt.
>> I had an old "finger cot" in my pocket, left over from work. When we
>> came to the checkout stand, turns out the clerk was my buddy's female
>> cousin. Not thinking it a big deal, I asked the cousin if she would
>> dispose of my old "finger cot" in the trash. Having never seen a
>> finger cot, she thoughty it another kind of latex protection and being
>> totally disgusted by her cousin's pal (me!), she shrank back, not
>> touching the evil object, and loudly proclaimed to me, "You maggot!!".

Since then everyone calls you tiny maggot pecker.

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:27:49 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2014-12-21 6:00 PM, sf wrote:
>
> >> Most people drink their booze mixed. It is almost comical to see someone
> >> worrying about watering down their booze with melted ice when they have
> >> already *******ized good liquor with sweet sodas.
> >
> > The only time I've ever "heard" anyone worry about ice cubes watering
> > a drink down is here. Most people don't care one way or the other.
> >
>
> Are you serious?

I'm wondering how serious you are.

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>On 12/21/2014 8:08 PM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>>
>>> On 12/21/2014 1:41 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Even scarier is the number of spiders we inhale in our sleep, or so
>>>>> they tell us.
>>>>
>>>> Which I don't believe for a second.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> All I know is when I blow my nose in the morning there are no spiders.
>>> If I get a cough, there are no spiders, either. Where *do* those
>>> alleged inhaled spiders go?
>>
>> If you sleep with your mouth open, you swallowed them.
>> Haven't you heard? The cure for swallowing spiders is to swallow a
>> bird.
>>
>> Janet UK

Yeah, right... a dicky bird! LOL

On 2014-12-22 10:38 AM, notbob wrote:
> On 2014-12-22, Doris Night > wrote:
>
>> Really? There are lots of magazines in waiting rooms around here.
>
> Likewise, here. If I see a really interesting magazine or one with a
> good recipe, I'll snag it. Gotten a couple good recipes from the
> hospital waiting room.
>
>


Even Tony Soprano has been known to rip recipes out of waiting room
magazines.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> >I just got a gift box of Kansas City Steaks in a styrofoam cooler
> >delivered with dry ice to keep it very frozen.
>
> What is the point of paying those ridiculously high prices for
> friggin' frozen steak, once frozen it's no longer fresh nor according
> to the USDA can it be sold as fresh... freezing knocks it down at
> least one maybe two USDA grades... you'd do much better at any
> stupidmarket.

Sheldon! It was a Christmas gift from a friend. I'm not about to
complain. I've now got 4 12oz sirloin steaks in my freezer.

On 2014-12-22 11:24 AM, sf wrote:

> I am not a big user of antibacterial soaps, but I do require the wet
> wipes grocery stores put at their entrances because it never fails
> that I pick up a cold if I don't use one on my cart handle and the
> surrounding area.

Maybe it is because you have sterilized your skin so many times that you
lost your natural immunity.

On 2014-12-22 11:56 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:27:49 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2014-12-21 6:00 PM, sf wrote:
>>
>>>> Most people drink their booze mixed. It is almost comical to see someone
>>>> worrying about watering down their booze with melted ice when they have
>>>> already *******ized good liquor with sweet sodas.
>>>
>>> The only time I've ever "heard" anyone worry about ice cubes watering
>>> a drink down is here. Most people don't care one way or the other.
>>>
>>
>> Are you serious?
>
> I'm wondering how serious you are.
>
Well, I am quite serious that people care about their drinks being water
down with too much ice. If I order a shot of liquor I don't want a
single shot of good booze with a glass full of ice that soon turns to
water.

Janet wrote:
>
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > On 12/21/2014 1:41 PM, Cheri wrote:
> > >
> > > "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >>
> > >> Even scarier is the number of spiders we inhale in our sleep, or so
> > >> they tell us.
> > >
> > > Which I don't believe for a second.
> > >
> > > Cheri
> >
> > All I know is when I blow my nose in the morning there are no spiders.
> > If I get a cough, there are no spiders, either. Where *do* those
> > alleged inhaled spiders go?
>
> If you sleep with your mouth open, you swallowed them.

The small spiders eat the baby roaches, fleas, and the occasional
bedbugs that also crawl in your open mouth at night.

On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 12:54:06 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2014-12-22 11:24 AM, sf wrote:
>
> > I am not a big user of antibacterial soaps, but I do require the wet
> > wipes grocery stores put at their entrances because it never fails
> > that I pick up a cold if I don't use one on my cart handle and the
> > surrounding area.
>
> Maybe it is because you have sterilized your skin so many times that you
> lost your natural immunity.
>

I thought you could read, so why would you say something stupid that?
I'm not a germophobe. I'm speaking from real experience.

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On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 12:57:18 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2014-12-22 11:56 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:27:49 -0500, Dave Smith
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2014-12-21 6:00 PM, sf wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Most people drink their booze mixed. It is almost comical to see someone
> >>>> worrying about watering down their booze with melted ice when they have
> >>>> already *******ized good liquor with sweet sodas.
> >>>
> >>> The only time I've ever "heard" anyone worry about ice cubes watering
> >>> a drink down is here. Most people don't care one way or the other.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Are you serious?
> >
> > I'm wondering how serious you are.
> >
> Well, I am quite serious that people care about their drinks being water
> down with too much ice. If I order a shot of liquor I don't want a
> single shot of good booze with a glass full of ice that soon turns to
> water.

You want one shot neat? Drink it neat then. The rest of us are not
complaining about a little melted ice cube.

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On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 08:24:32 -0800, sf > wrote:
snip
>>
>Antibacterial soap is being banned. Actually it's a chemical called
>triclosan that's being banned, mainly because it's connected to the
>increase of antibiotic-resistant "superbugs".
>http://www.beyondpesticides.org/anti.../triclosan.php
>
>I am not a big user of antibacterial soaps, but I do require the wet
>wipes grocery stores put at their entrances because it never fails
>that I pick up a cold if I don't use one on my cart handle and the
>surrounding area.

I'm glad to hear that. It has become almost impossible to buy a
liquid soap that isn't antibacterial.
Janet US

On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 12:54:04 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> Brooklyn1 wrote:
> >
> > Gary wrote:
> > >I just got a gift box of Kansas City Steaks in a styrofoam cooler
> > >delivered with dry ice to keep it very frozen.
> >
> > What is the point of paying those ridiculously high prices for
> > friggin' frozen steak, once frozen it's no longer fresh nor according
> > to the USDA can it be sold as fresh... freezing knocks it down at
> > least one maybe two USDA grades... you'd do much better at any
> > stupidmarket.
>
> Sheldon! It was a Christmas gift from a friend. I'm not about to
> complain. I've now got 4 12oz sirloin steaks in my freezer.

He can't beat the price either: FREE.

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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2014-12-22 11:56 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:27:49 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2014-12-21 6:00 PM, sf wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Most people drink their booze mixed. It is almost comical to see
>>>>> someone
>>>>> worrying about watering down their booze with melted ice when they
>>>>> have
>>>>> already *******ized good liquor with sweet sodas.
>>>>
>>>> The only time I've ever "heard" anyone worry about ice cubes watering
>>>> a drink down is here. Most people don't care one way or the other.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you serious?
>>
>> I'm wondering how serious you are.
>>
> Well, I am quite serious that people care about their drinks being water
> down with too much ice. If I order a shot of liquor I don't want a single
> shot of good booze with a glass full of ice that soon turns to water.

Why would you take long enough with a single shot of good booze for the ice
to melt? Most bartenders will not put a lot of ice in a single shot, unless
you're at some cheap assed bar drinking rot gut. LOL

Cheri

On 22/12/2014 11:05 AM, sf wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 12:54:06 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2014-12-22 11:24 AM, sf wrote:
>>
>>> I am not a big user of antibacterial soaps, but I do require the wet
>>> wipes grocery stores put at their entrances because it never fails
>>> that I pick up a cold if I don't use one on my cart handle and the
>>> surrounding area.
>>
>> Maybe it is because you have sterilized your skin so many times that you
>> lost your natural immunity.
>>
>
> I thought you could read, so why would you say something stupid that?
>
Ah! I can see that you are imbued with the Christmas Spirit!

On 22/12/2014 9:46 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:13:30 -0700, Janet B >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 13:16:51 -0500, Brooklyn1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've seen it at most delis... in fact they remove the gloves, lay them
>>> down on an unclean surface to do something and then put the same used
>>> gloves back on to slice coldcuts. Next time you're at a deli stay
>>> alert and watch, clerks are constantly wiping those gloved hands on
>>> their dirty apron. What's the point of gloves when they are
>>> constantly picking up dirty handled knives and spoons.
>>
>> surely you don't think that you can have sterile food, and if you
>> could, why? Every single can, box, bottle and package you bring home
>> from the store has been handled by someone without gloves. How do you
>> open that cryovac'ed package of cheese without 'contaminating' the
>> contents or your food?
>> What goes on in the kitchen of a restaurant? This argument is all
>> about what you see, not what is real.
>> Janet US
>
> As far as taking off gloves and reusing them - what a LIAR. They take
> their gloves off when they have finished handling your food and have a
> box of disposable gloves so they can take out new ones for the new
> customer. First he spreads his horsesh*t about "mystery meat" and now
> this? That man is a real head case.
>
Ah! I can see that you are imbued with the Christmas Spirit!

On 22/12/2014 9:56 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:27:49 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2014-12-21 6:00 PM, sf wrote:
>>
>>>> Most people drink their booze mixed. It is almost comical to see someone
>>>> worrying about watering down their booze with melted ice when they have
>>>> already *******ized good liquor with sweet sodas.
>>>
>>> The only time I've ever "heard" anyone worry about ice cubes watering
>>> a drink down is here. Most people don't care one way or the other.
>>>
>>
>> Are you serious?
>
> I'm wondering how serious you are.
>
Ah! I can see that you are imbued with the Christmas Spirit!

On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 12:25:21 -0700, graham > wrote:

> On 22/12/2014 11:05 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 12:54:06 -0500, Dave Smith
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2014-12-22 11:24 AM, sf wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am not a big user of antibacterial soaps, but I do require the wet
> >>> wipes grocery stores put at their entrances because it never fails
> >>> that I pick up a cold if I don't use one on my cart handle and the
> >>> surrounding area.
> >>
> >> Maybe it is because you have sterilized your skin so many times that you
> >> lost your natural immunity.
> >>
> >
> > I thought you could read, so why would you say something stupid that?
> >
> Ah! I can see that you are imbued with the Christmas Spirit!

Happy New Year to you too.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 12:25:40 -0700, graham > wrote:

> On 22/12/2014 9:46 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:13:30 -0700, Janet B >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 13:16:51 -0500, Brooklyn1
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I've seen it at most delis... in fact they remove the gloves, lay them
> >>> down on an unclean surface to do something and then put the same used
> >>> gloves back on to slice coldcuts. Next time you're at a deli stay
> >>> alert and watch, clerks are constantly wiping those gloved hands on
> >>> their dirty apron. What's the point of gloves when they are
> >>> constantly picking up dirty handled knives and spoons.
> >>
> >> surely you don't think that you can have sterile food, and if you
> >> could, why? Every single can, box, bottle and package you bring home
> >> from the store has been handled by someone without gloves. How do you
> >> open that cryovac'ed package of cheese without 'contaminating' the
> >> contents or your food?
> >> What goes on in the kitchen of a restaurant? This argument is all
> >> about what you see, not what is real.
> >> Janet US
> >
> > As far as taking off gloves and reusing them - what a LIAR. They take
> > their gloves off when they have finished handling your food and have a
> > box of disposable gloves so they can take out new ones for the new
> > customer. First he spreads his horsesh*t about "mystery meat" and now
> > this? That man is a real head case.
> >
> Ah! I can see that you are imbued with the Christmas Spirit!

Yeah.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On 12/22/2014 3:38 PM, l not -l wrote:
> On 22-Dec-2014, sf > wrote:
>
>> On 21 DecDEC14 16:49:58 GMT, notnot > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2014-12-21, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Back in the early 60's I worked in a grocery/butcher shop. Gloves
>>>> were
>>>> unheard of back then. Yes, my hands touched every slice of your
>>>> lunchmeat as I sliced it. I don't recall when gloves became the norm.
>>>
>>> No doubt, when glove companies became profitable enough to hire
>>> lobbyists.
>>>
>>
>> Oh, come on. How can you say that with all the gramophones in rfc?

> gramophones??? germaphobes, maybe; but I don't recall a single gramophone
> here.
>
LOL

Jill

On 12/22/2014 11:40 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> Around here cell phone use is not permitted in doctor's offices...
> there are signs saying to go outdoors to use your phone... many
> medical waiting rooms have cell phone signal jammers. Public pay
> phones were in booths or behind a sound barrier... but cell phone
> users are rude, they scream into their phone so annoy everyone around
> them and who needs to hear their filthy language.

They should be banned. . . for calling.
I use my phone, but not for calls. I can read the newspaper or some
magazine articles on my phone. I put the ringer on silent and would
never use it to make a call.

On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 20:38:14 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:

>
> On 22-Dec-2014, sf > wrote:
>
> > On 21 DecDEC14 16:49:58 GMT, notnot > wrote:
> >
> > > On 2014-12-21, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Back in the early 60's I worked in a grocery/butcher shop. Gloves
> > > > were
> > > > unheard of back then. Yes, my hands touched every slice of your
> > > > lunchmeat as I sliced it. I don't recall when gloves became the norm.
> > >
> > > No doubt, when glove companies became profitable enough to hire
> > > lobbyists.
> > >
> >
> > Oh, come on. How can you say that with all the gramophones in rfc?
> gramophones??? germaphobes, maybe; but I don't recall a single gramophone
> here.

Hit the wrong spell check and when I went back to look at the choices
thought I'd picked a different one. This isn't bad as wrong word
choices go.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 16:13:32 -0400, wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 12:57:18 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >On 2014-12-22 11:56 AM, sf wrote:
> >> On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:27:49 -0500, Dave Smith
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2014-12-21 6:00 PM, sf wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Most people drink their booze mixed. It is almost comical to see someone
> >>>>> worrying about watering down their booze with melted ice when they have
> >>>>> already *******ized good liquor with sweet sodas.
> >>>>
> >>>> The only time I've ever "heard" anyone worry about ice cubes watering
> >>>> a drink down is here. Most people don't care one way or the other.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Are you serious?
> >>
> >> I'm wondering how serious you are.
> >>
> >Well, I am quite serious that people care about their drinks being water
> >down with too much ice. If I order a shot of liquor I don't want a
> >single shot of good booze with a glass full of ice that soon turns to
> >water.
>
>
> You need to learn to drink faster

And to put the glass down. His hot hand is melting the ice.

--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room

On 2014-12-22 1:07 PM, sf wrote:

>> Well, I am quite serious that people care about their drinks being water
>> down with too much ice. If I order a shot of liquor I don't want a
>> single shot of good booze with a glass full of ice that soon turns to
>> water.
>
> You want one shot neat? Drink it neat then. The rest of us are not
> complaining about a little melted ice cube.
>
Fercrissakes.... I said I like a little bit of ice. If I drink a gin
and tonic I want a shot of gin with some tonic and enough ice to cool
it. I don't want a little bit of gin and a little bit of tonic in a huge
glassful of ice cubes to supersize it and to turn into a slightly gin
flavoured bucket of icewater.

Should I dare to mention that if I order a soft drink I expect a glass
of pop not a glassful of ice.

On 12/22/2014 11:40 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Around here cell phone use is not permitted in doctor's offices...
> there are signs saying to go outdoors to use your phone... many
> medical waiting rooms have cell phone signal jammers. Public pay
> phones were in booths or behind a sound barrier... but cell phone
> users are rude, they scream into their phone so annoy everyone

Many medical waiting rooms have cell phone signal jammers? Huh.

There are signs saying no cell phones, sure. That doesn't stop most
people from using them in doctor's offices or hospitals. When I went to
the doctor last month despite the obvious signage there were people
talking on cell phones in the waiting room.

People pay as much attention to those signs as they do the airplane
announcement about shutting off all electronic devices. Some people
simply can't bring themselves to do it. I doubt I'll ever understand it.

Jill