On Monday, December 15, 2014 10:19:40 AM UTC-5, Steve Freides wrote:

>
> The night before, we went to Cheesecake Factory in the Menlo Park Mall
> (5 or 10 minutes by car from Harold's). I have to say that I don't
> think I've ever had a bad meal at a Cheesecake Factory restaurant, and
> most of what we had we more than just satisfactory, it was really good.
>

Their fare IS quite good, but oh my - the portion sizes are frightening. I bet their average meal and dessert prob. approaches 1500 calories.

Kalmia wrote:
> On Monday, December 15, 2014 10:19:40 AM UTC-5, Steve Freides wrote:
>
>>
>> The night before, we went to Cheesecake Factory in the Menlo Park
>> Mall (5 or 10 minutes by car from Harold's). I have to say that I
>> don't think I've ever had a bad meal at a Cheesecake Factory
>> restaurant, and most of what we had we more than just satisfactory,
>> it was really good.
>>
>
> Their fare IS quite good, but oh my - the portion sizes are
> frightening. I bet their average meal and dessert prob. approaches
> 1500 calories.

My solution to that problem is that I eat only very little during the
day and have a big meal at dinner. Typical for me is nothing or a
couple of spoonfuls of my homemade nut butter in the AM, a 250-calorie
Dale's Raw Food bar as "lunch", and then I can eat a bigger dinner than
I'd otherwise be able to eat. I've been doing this for a long time and
it agrees with me.

However, I must say that the dessert is the big calorie and health
issue, not the meal. The other thing I do with my eating is have more
on the weekends and less during the week, so while I had a slice of the
restaurant's cheesecake on Saturday night, last night my dessert was a
few round chocolates from IKEA - package says 11 pieces add up to 210
calories and I had 4, which equals 76 calories if I did the math right.
If one has a sweet tooth, cutting out, or cutting way back on dessert is
the single easiest way to maintain or lose weight.

I'd bet their average meal + dessert is well above 1500 calories. OK,
just found this - see for yourself:

http://www.cheesecakefactorynutritio...ion-chart.php?

I'd say an average slice of cheesecake, if you leave out the obviously
diet ones, is about 1000 calories - I had Banana Cream, and it says
that's 930 calories. If you look under Specialties, several are over
2000 calories, e.g, the Fish and Chips. The Pulled Pork sandwich is
1440 calories. Bistro Shrimp Pasta is 2290 calories.

I'd say that 2500 calories would be a lot more typical entree + dessert
than 1500 would be. That's not to say there aren't more
calorie-conscious choices on the menu, of course. For me, I'd rather
just have what I want in a restaurant when I'm there and eat moderately
at home - kind of goes with the idea that eating out is special in both
good and bad ways and that I want to keep eating well, and moderately at
home.

-S-

On 12/16/2014 8:46 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
> Kalmia wrote:

>> Their fare IS quite good, but oh my - the portion sizes are
>> frightening. I bet their average meal and dessert prob. approaches
>> 1500 calories.
>
> My solution to that problem is that I eat only very little during the
> day and have a big meal at dinner. Typical for me is nothing or a
> couple of spoonfuls of my homemade nut butter in the AM, a 250-calorie
> Dale's Raw Food bar as "lunch", and then I can eat a bigger dinner than
> I'd otherwise be able to eat. I've been doing this for a long time and
> it agrees with me.

If I eat out, it's generally my meal for the day. I don't really
worry about it too much.

But I get my cheesecake to go if I get one, and we split it.
I hardly ever order dessert out, otherwise.

> I'd say an average slice of cheesecake, if you leave out the obviously
> diet ones, is about 1000 calories - I had Banana Cream, and it says
> that's 930 calories. If you look under Specialties, several are over
> 2000 calories, e.g, the Fish and Chips.

I get the lunch size fish and chips. You will wonder how much
they can possibly give you for the dinner portion! Still, it's
under 1500 calories. No, I'm not trying to say it's diet food.
I don't clean my plate, either, who could eat all those chips.

nancy

On Monday, December 15, 2014 5:05:53 PM UTC-6, Kalmia wrote:
> On Monday, December 15, 2014 10:19:40 AM UTC-5, Steve Freides wrote:
>
> >
> > The night before, we went to Cheesecake Factory in the Menlo Park Mall
> > (5 or 10 minutes by car from Harold's). I have to say that I don't
> > think I've ever had a bad meal at a Cheesecake Factory restaurant, and
> > most of what we had we more than just satisfactory, it was really good.
> >
>
> Their fare IS quite good, but oh my - the portion sizes are frightening. I bet their average meal and dessert prob. approaches 1500 calories.

I liked "A" under "For the Dieter".....A can of tuna with some lettuce, tomato, egg, and cottage cheese for 20 bucks. Who would order something like that?

On Monday, December 22, 2014 12:02:12 AM UTC-8, wrote:
> On Monday, December 15, 2014 5:05:53 PM UTC-6, Kalmia wrote:
> > On Monday, December 15, 2014 10:19:40 AM UTC-5, Steve Freides wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The night before, we went to Cheesecake Factory in the Menlo Park Mall
> > > (5 or 10 minutes by car from Harold's). I have to say that I don't
> > > think I've ever had a bad meal at a Cheesecake Factory restaurant, and
> > > most of what we had we more than just satisfactory, it was really good.
> > >
> >
> > Their fare IS quite good, but oh my - the portion sizes are frightening. I bet their average meal and dessert prob. approaches 1500 calories.
>
> I liked "A" under "For the Dieter".....A can of tuna with some lettuce, tomato, egg, and cottage cheese for 20 bucks. Who would order something like that?

Somebody who's been in a state of cryogenic preservation since 1967.