http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...y_see_how.html

Nov. 4 2014 2:49 PM
McDonald’s Brings in a Mythbuster to Prove Its McRibs Aren’t That Gross
By Alison Griswold

There are a lot of questions about the McDonald's McRib. Is it real
pork? Does it contain plastic? Will it bounce? McDonald's also isn't too
crazy about some of these questions. So in an effort to dispel some of
the more unflattering queries about its signature barbecue item, the
company has released a new video on YouTube featuring self-declared
McRib skeptic and TV personality Grant Imahara.

The segment comes as McDonald's is struggling to revive interest in its
fast-food offerings. Late last month, the company reported a 30 percent
decline in profit in the third quarter and a 3.3 percent decrease in
sales. It's being buffeted on all sides by widespread consumer
skepticism, unshakable images of pink slime, and a seemingly undying
love for Chipotle. So McDonald's is buckling down. As The New Yorker
reports, it's launched a campaign to promote transparency and invited
questions from the public. It's rolling out a series of videos and hired
Imahara to be their investigative face. And come early next year, the
champion of "I'm lovin' it" is also expected to debut a new slogan—one
that perhaps acknowledges McDonalds' recent woes: "Lovin' Beats Hatin'."

In the five-minute clip on the McRib, Imahara along with teacher and
nonprofit director Wes Bellamy go to Oklahoma City to see how the McRib
is prepared. Kevin Nanke, vice president of McDonald's U.S. pork
supplier Lopez Foods, explains to them (and us) that the only
ingredients in a McRib are pork, water, dextrose, and preservatives to
"lock in the flavor." They watch as the minced meat is pressed into a
McRib-like shape and then flash-frozen to be boxed and shipped; the
segment ends with Bellamy and Imahara each eating their first McRib
sandwich. For the record, we don't ever see Imahara take more than one
bite of his McRib.

One theory about the McRib is that McDonald's only promotes the sandwich
when pork prices are low. While it's hard to confirm whether some form
of McArbitrage is going on, it is noteworthy that pork futures have
fallen pretty steadily since July and tend to hit lows during the fall.
From that perspective, McDonald's Monday release of the McRib video
makes a lot of sense beyond just its transparency campaign.

On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:42:54 -0500, Travis McGee >
wrote:

> http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...y_see_how.html
>
> Nov. 4 2014 2:49 PM
> McDonald’s Brings in a Mythbuster to Prove Its McRibs Aren’t That Gross
> By Alison Griswold

That's all peachy keen, but it's still just a pork burger. It isn't
even a shadow of what the original McRib was. Those were real rib
meat. You could even see the pocket where the ribs had been removed.


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On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 20:31:16 -0400, wrote:

> On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:22:29 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:42:54 -0500, Travis McGee >
> >wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...y_see_how.html
> >>
> >> Nov. 4 2014 2:49 PM
> >> McDonald’s Brings in a Mythbuster to Prove Its McRibs Aren’t That Gross
> >> By Alison Griswold
> >
> >That's all peachy keen, but it's still just a pork burger. It isn't
> >even a shadow of what the original McRib was. Those were real rib
> >meat. You could even see the pocket where the ribs had been removed.
>
> Admittedly it's been about twenty years since I crossed the threshold
> of McDogs but why anyone is getting uptight about their food, I can't
> imagine. All tastes the same and is yucky. The last time I was
> there I foolishly tried a lobster roll. It had the same flavour as
> the burgers and everything else they sell, never been back since.

Lobster roll, McDonald's??? LOL Good luck with that.


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On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 20:31:16 -0400, wrote:

>On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:22:29 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:42:54 -0500, Travis McGee >
>>wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...y_see_how.html
>>>
>>> Nov. 4 2014 2:49 PM
>>> McDonald’s Brings in a Mythbuster to Prove Its McRibs Aren’t That Gross
>>> By Alison Griswold
>>
>>That's all peachy keen, but it's still just a pork burger. It isn't
>>even a shadow of what the original McRib was. Those were real rib
>>meat. You could even see the pocket where the ribs had been removed.
>
>Admittedly it's been about twenty years since I crossed the threshold
>of McDogs but why anyone is getting uptight about their food, I can't
>imagine. All tastes the same and is yucky. The last time I was
>there I foolishly tried a lobster roll. It had the same flavour as
>the burgers and everything else they sell, never been back since.

You won't ever see me in one, that's for sure.

> wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:22:29 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:42:54 -0500, Travis McGee >
>>wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...y_see_how.html
>>>
>>> Nov. 4 2014 2:49 PM
>>> McDonald's Brings in a Mythbuster to Prove Its McRibs Aren't That Gross
>>> By Alison Griswold
>>
>>That's all peachy keen, but it's still just a pork burger. It isn't
>>even a shadow of what the original McRib was. Those were real rib
>>meat. You could even see the pocket where the ribs had been removed.
>
> Admittedly it's been about twenty years since I crossed the threshold
> of McDogs but why anyone is getting uptight about their food, I can't
> imagine. All tastes the same and is yucky. The last time I was
> there I foolishly tried a lobster roll. It had the same flavour as
> the burgers and everything else they sell, never been back since.

I have been in a MdDs once ...



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On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 11:11:44 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:22:29 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >
> >>On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:42:54 -0500, Travis McGee >
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...y_see_how.html
> >>>
> >>> Nov. 4 2014 2:49 PM
> >>> McDonald's Brings in a Mythbuster to Prove Its McRibs Aren't That Gross
> >>> By Alison Griswold
> >>
> >>That's all peachy keen, but it's still just a pork burger. It isn't
> >>even a shadow of what the original McRib was. Those were real rib
> >>meat. You could even see the pocket where the ribs had been removed.
> >
> > Admittedly it's been about twenty years since I crossed the threshold
> > of McDogs but why anyone is getting uptight about their food, I can't
> > imagine. All tastes the same and is yucky. The last time I was
> > there I foolishly tried a lobster roll. It had the same flavour as
> > the burgers and everything else they sell, never been back since.
>
> I have been in a MdDs once ...

I have no idea why Europeans would bother going even once. It's an
American thing you shouldn't feel a need to understand. McDonald's is
like gravy on fries in Canada, chip butty sandwiches in England, black
pudding in UK, etc - disgusting to outsiders, loved by the locals.

I thought American adults with no children in tow, choosing to eat at
McDonald's was a myth until I took that guided tour of China. Three
quarters of the way through, we were in a large city in Sichuan with a
few hours of "free time" when a big part of the group decided they
wanted to eat at McDonald's! You could have knocked me over with a
feather. They preferred bland food, so I guess it makes sense that
they'd go to McDonald's instead of sampling the local cuisine.


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 11:11:44 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:22:29 -0800, sf > wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:42:54 -0500, Travis McGee >
>> >>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...y_see_how.html
>> >>>
>> >>> Nov. 4 2014 2:49 PM
>> >>> McDonald's Brings in a Mythbuster to Prove Its McRibs Aren't That
>> >>> Gross
>> >>> By Alison Griswold
>> >>
>> >>That's all peachy keen, but it's still just a pork burger. It isn't
>> >>even a shadow of what the original McRib was. Those were real rib
>> >>meat. You could even see the pocket where the ribs had been removed.
>> >
>> > Admittedly it's been about twenty years since I crossed the threshold
>> > of McDogs but why anyone is getting uptight about their food, I can't
>> > imagine. All tastes the same and is yucky. The last time I was
>> > there I foolishly tried a lobster roll. It had the same flavour as
>> > the burgers and everything else they sell, never been back since.
>>
>> I have been in a MdDs once ...
>
> I have no idea why Europeans would bother going even once.

How in the world are we supposed to know it is bad until we have tried it???

It's an
> American thing you shouldn't feel a need to understand.

I have no wish to understand any such thing. Why should I feel a need to
know something that is not apparent. Sometimes you say the strangest
things

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On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 06:51:05 -0800, sf > wrote:



>
>I have no idea why Europeans would bother going even once. It's an
>American thing you shouldn't feel a need to understand. McDonald's is
>like gravy on fries in Canada, chip butty sandwiches in England, black
>pudding in UK, etc - disgusting to outsiders, loved by the locals.
>
>I thought American adults with no children in tow, choosing to eat at
>McDonald's was a myth until I took that guided tour of China. Three
>quarters of the way through, we were in a large city in Sichuan with a
>few hours of "free time" when a big part of the group decided they
>wanted to eat at McDonald's! You could have knocked me over with a
>feather. They preferred bland food, so I guess it makes sense that
>they'd go to McDonald's instead of sampling the local cuisine.

Clean and free restrooms. Certainly not for the food.

On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 12:42:58 PM UTC-10, Travis McGee wrote:
> http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...y_see_how.html
>
> Nov. 4 2014 2:49 PM
> McDonald's Brings in a Mythbuster to Prove Its McRibs Aren't That Gross
> By Alison Griswold
>
> There are a lot of questions about the McDonald's McRib. Is it real
> pork? Does it contain plastic? Will it bounce? McDonald's also isn't too
> crazy about some of these questions. So in an effort to dispel some of
> the more unflattering queries about its signature barbecue item, the
> company has released a new video on YouTube featuring self-declared
> McRib skeptic and TV personality Grant Imahara.
>
> The segment comes as McDonald's is struggling to revive interest in its
> fast-food offerings. Late last month, the company reported a 30 percent
> decline in profit in the third quarter and a 3.3 percent decrease in
> sales. It's being buffeted on all sides by widespread consumer
> skepticism, unshakable images of pink slime, and a seemingly undying
> love for Chipotle. So McDonald's is buckling down. As The New Yorker
> reports, it's launched a campaign to promote transparency and invited
> questions from the public. It's rolling out a series of videos and hired
> Imahara to be their investigative face. And come early next year, the
> champion of "I'm lovin' it" is also expected to debut a new slogan--one
> that perhaps acknowledges McDonalds' recent woes: "Lovin' Beats Hatin'."
>
> In the five-minute clip on the McRib, Imahara along with teacher and
> nonprofit director Wes Bellamy go to Oklahoma City to see how the McRib
> is prepared. Kevin Nanke, vice president of McDonald's U.S. pork
> supplier Lopez Foods, explains to them (and us) that the only
> ingredients in a McRib are pork, water, dextrose, and preservatives to
> "lock in the flavor." They watch as the minced meat is pressed into a
> McRib-like shape and then flash-frozen to be boxed and shipped; the
> segment ends with Bellamy and Imahara each eating their first McRib
> sandwich. For the record, we don't ever see Imahara take more than one
> bite of his McRib.
>
> One theory about the McRib is that McDonald's only promotes the sandwich
> when pork prices are low. While it's hard to confirm whether some form
> of McArbitrage is going on, it is noteworthy that pork futures have
> fallen pretty steadily since July and tend to hit lows during the fall.
> From that perspective, McDonald's Monday release of the McRib video
> makes a lot of sense beyond just its transparency campaign.

The problem is that this product was made in a funny shape. People can't handle a pork burger in a shape that's not round!

On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 9:29:25 PM UTC-5, Jeï¿ 1/2 us wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 20:31:16 -0400, wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:22:29 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >
> >>On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:42:54 -0500, Travis McGee >
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...y_see_how.html
> >>>
> >>> Nov. 4 2014 2:49 PM
> >>> McDonald's Brings in a Mythbuster to Prove Its McRibs Aren't That Gross
> >>> By Alison Griswold
> >>
> >>That's all peachy keen, but it's still just a pork burger. It isn't
> >>even a shadow of what the original McRib was. Those were real rib
> >>meat. You could even see the pocket where the ribs had been removed.
> >
> >Admittedly it's been about twenty years since I crossed the threshold
> >of McDogs but why anyone is getting uptight about their food, I can't
> >imagine. All tastes the same and is yucky. The last time I was
> >there I foolishly tried a lobster roll. It had the same flavour as
> >the burgers and everything else they sell, never been back since.
>
> You won't ever see me in one, that's for sure.

Same here - only to use the restroom and buy a cawfee when traveling and the next stop is 50 miles away.

On 2014-11-05 12:26 PM, Kalmia wrote:

>>> Admittedly it's been about twenty years since I crossed the threshold
>>> of McDogs but why anyone is getting uptight about their food, I can't
>>> imagine. All tastes the same and is yucky. The last time I was
>>> there I foolishly tried a lobster roll. It had the same flavour as
>>> the burgers and everything else they sell, never been back since.
>>
>> You won't ever see me in one, that's for sure.
>
> Same here - only to use the restroom and buy a cawfee when traveling and the next stop is 50 miles away.
>
I have not darkened the doors of a McD's for ages. I used to eat at
them occasionally when I first started working and was on the road every
day. However, being on the road was also part of the problem because I
was invariably hit with a big mac attack about 15 minutes down the road.
I did try stopping at them a couple times at the end of a 10 hour
shift on hot summer nights to get milk shakes. Both times I ended up
waiting a long time to get to the window only to be told that the milk
shake machine was broken.

I did stop go through the drive thru about two months ago to get a
coffee because I had heard how good it was. It was okay, but not god
enough to get me back there again.

On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 12:07:34 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 06:51:05 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>
>
> >
> >I have no idea why Europeans would bother going even once. It's an
> >American thing you shouldn't feel a need to understand. McDonald's is
> >like gravy on fries in Canada, chip butty sandwiches in England, black
> >pudding in UK, etc - disgusting to outsiders, loved by the locals.
> >
> >I thought American adults with no children in tow, choosing to eat at
> >McDonald's was a myth until I took that guided tour of China. Three
> >quarters of the way through, we were in a large city in Sichuan with a
> >few hours of "free time" when a big part of the group decided they
> >wanted to eat at McDonald's! You could have knocked me over with a
> >feather. They preferred bland food, so I guess it makes sense that
> >they'd go to McDonald's instead of sampling the local cuisine.
>
> Clean and free restrooms. Certainly not for the food.

Unfortunately, that wasn't the case.


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On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 12:55:03 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 18:20:48 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 20:31:16 -0400, wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:22:29 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:42:54 -0500, Travis McGee >
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...y_see_how.html
> >> >>
> >> >> Nov. 4 2014 2:49 PM
> >> >> McDonald's Brings in a Mythbuster to Prove Its McRibs Aren't That Gross
> >> >> By Alison Griswold
> >> >
> >> >That's all peachy keen, but it's still just a pork burger. It isn't
> >> >even a shadow of what the original McRib was. Those were real rib
> >> >meat. You could even see the pocket where the ribs had been removed.
> >>
> >> Admittedly it's been about twenty years since I crossed the threshold
> >> of McDogs but why anyone is getting uptight about their food, I can't
> >> imagine. All tastes the same and is yucky. The last time I was
> >> there I foolishly tried a lobster roll. It had the same flavour as
> >> the burgers and everything else they sell, never been back since.
> >
> >Lobster roll, McDonald's??? LOL Good luck with that.
>
> I don't know if they still do it but at that time they introduced
> items that were only sold in that particular area, logically ours was
> a lobster roll. It was real lobster in a minute portion, you had to
> hunt for it, but it tasted like burger.

I'd buy a lobster roll at McDonald's - at least once. We eat a lot at McDonald's. It's great when we're hungry and don't want to spend a lot of time or effort looking for a place to eat.

OTOH, we ate at a place yesterday that was the antithesis of MD. As far as hole-in-the-walls goes, it's on the small side. I walk in and the woman behind the counter points at me and says "pork chop?" She's dead right of course - and why not? It's the best pork chop in town.

A middle-aged woman comes in and a kid at the table behind me says "Auntie! Come sit over here!" "Auntie" or "uncle" is respectful term that the younger people call their elders. It's something we learned from the Chinese.

Then the Chinese guy that owns most of our little town, including my office and the building we're eating in walks with his family. I see his grandaughter, whom I've seen grow up is in an advanced stage of pregnancy. This makes me feel nostalgic. Where did the years go?

I have the pork chop, my wife has the nishime, which is a Japanese stew usually served on new years day. My son has a plate of fried rice topped with corned beef hash and 2 eggs with gravy on everything. The food is totally awesome! Like I said, the place is the antithesis of MD. :-)

On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 1:11:07 AM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:22:29 -0800, sf wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:42:54 -0500, Travis McGee >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...y_see_how.html
> >>
> >> Nov. 4 2014 2:49 PM
> >> McDonald's Brings in a Mythbuster to Prove Its McRibs Aren't That Gross
> >> By Alison Griswold
> >
> > That's all peachy keen, but it's still just a pork burger. It isn't
> > even a shadow of what the original McRib was. Those were real rib
> > meat. You could even see the pocket where the ribs had been removed.
>
> Is she serious?!?!?
>
> McRibs were *never* made from rib meat. And the 'pocket' was always
> just formed ground pork.

LMAO!!! I swear to God she must be Nancy Pelosi, they are both senile.

>
> From the video they showed those patties are about 60% fat and skin
> (or more!). Anybody who has ever bought or cooked a pork picnic knows
> this. There was no doubt about it as they showed them in the big
> hopper and grinder.
>
> What they didn't tell you is they're all ground and stamped in China.

Right-O.

I'm still laughing about the McRib having pockets from the bones being removed lmaooooo

On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 3:42:58 PM UTC-7, Travis McGee wrote:
> http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...y_see_how.html
>
> Nov. 4 2014 2:49 PM
> McDonald's Brings in a Mythbuster to Prove Its McRibs Aren't That Gross
> By Alison Griswold
>
> There are a lot of questions about the McDonald's McRib. Is it real
> pork? Does it contain plastic? Will it bounce? McDonald's also isn't too
> crazy about some of these questions. So in an effort to dispel some of
> the more unflattering queries about its signature barbecue item, the
> company has released a new video on YouTube featuring self-declared
> McRib skeptic and TV personality Grant Imahara.
>
> The segment comes as McDonald's is struggling to revive interest in its
> fast-food offerings. Late last month, the company reported a 30 percent
> decline in profit in the third quarter and a 3.3 percent decrease in
> sales. It's being buffeted on all sides by widespread consumer
> skepticism, unshakable images of pink slime, and a seemingly undying
> love for Chipotle. So McDonald's is buckling down. As The New Yorker
> reports, it's launched a campaign to promote transparency and invited
> questions from the public. It's rolling out a series of videos and hired
> Imahara to be their investigative face. And come early next year, the
> champion of "I'm lovin' it" is also expected to debut a new slogan--one
> that perhaps acknowledges McDonalds' recent woes: "Lovin' Beats Hatin'."
>
> In the five-minute clip on the McRib, Imahara along with teacher and
> nonprofit director Wes Bellamy go to Oklahoma City to see how the McRib
> is prepared. Kevin Nanke, vice president of McDonald's U.S. pork
> supplier Lopez Foods, explains to them (and us) that the only
> ingredients in a McRib are pork, water, dextrose, and preservatives to
> "lock in the flavor." They watch as the minced meat is pressed into a
> McRib-like shape and then flash-frozen to be boxed and shipped; the
> segment ends with Bellamy and Imahara each eating their first McRib
> sandwich. For the record, we don't ever see Imahara take more than one
> bite of his McRib.
>
> One theory about the McRib is that McDonald's only promotes the sandwich
> when pork prices are low. While it's hard to confirm whether some form
> of McArbitrage is going on, it is noteworthy that pork futures have
> fallen pretty steadily since July and tend to hit lows during the fall.
> From that perspective, McDonald's Monday release of the McRib video
> makes a lot of sense beyond just its transparency campaign.



It is hard to argue with the most successful restaurant company in the world. Guess they are doing something right. I do not care for the lunch items, although the fries are good. I don't like hamburgers from most places, I like to make my own.
I go to McDonalds many mornings when I am working and get the sausage muffin. It is good, right size, and costs $1. I also get the senior coffee and it is very good, and the right size for my tastes. One of the locations near an office I work at had good orange juice, but the mix went off and I did not order it anymore. Yes, it is from concentrate and is diluted at the dispenser. The OJ is Minute Maid.

I am also amazed that people say McDonalds makes people fat. Go the the Carl Jr's site and look at their calorie counts.

DaleP

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:09:04 -0800 (PST), dalep
> wrote:

>It is hard to argue with the most successful restaurant company in the world. Guess they are doing something right.

Yes, convenience for lazy people and/or people with no time to eat
real food. I really can't quite accept the description of them as a
restaurant, but that's probably yet another regional thing.

>I do not care for the lunch items, although the fries are good. I don't like hamburgers from most places, I like to make my own.
>I go to McDonalds many mornings when I am working and get the sausage muffin. It is good, right size, and costs $1. I also get the senior coffee and it is very good, and the right size for my tastes. One of the locations near an office I work at had good orange juice, but the mix went off and I did not order it anymore. Yes, it is from concentrate and is diluted at the dispenser. The OJ is Minute Maid.
>
>I am also amazed that people say McDonalds makes people fat. Go the the Carl Jr's site and look at their calorie counts.

Stating 'calories' is such an oversimplification. There are calories,
and then there are calories. Some make people obese and/or unwell, and
some don't. Either way, mcdonalds is not healthy food.

On Friday, November 7, 2014 4:09:08 PM UTC-5, dalep wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 3:42:58 PM UTC-7, Travis McGee wrote:
> > http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...y_see_how.html
> >
> > Nov. 4 2014 2:49 PM
> > McDonald's Brings in a Mythbuster to Prove Its McRibs Aren't That Gross
> > By Alison Griswold
> >
> > There are a lot of questions about the McDonald's McRib. Is it real
> > pork? Does it contain plastic? Will it bounce? McDonald's also isn't too
> > crazy about some of these questions. So in an effort to dispel some of
> > the more unflattering queries about its signature barbecue item, the
> > company has released a new video on YouTube featuring self-declared
> > McRib skeptic and TV personality Grant Imahara.
> >
> > The segment comes as McDonald's is struggling to revive interest in its
> > fast-food offerings. Late last month, the company reported a 30 percent
> > decline in profit in the third quarter and a 3.3 percent decrease in
> > sales. It's being buffeted on all sides by widespread consumer
> > skepticism, unshakable images of pink slime, and a seemingly undying
> > love for Chipotle. So McDonald's is buckling down. As The New Yorker
> > reports, it's launched a campaign to promote transparency and invited
> > questions from the public. It's rolling out a series of videos and hired
> > Imahara to be their investigative face. And come early next year, the
> > champion of "I'm lovin' it" is also expected to debut a new slogan--one
> > that perhaps acknowledges McDonalds' recent woes: "Lovin' Beats Hatin'."
> >
> > In the five-minute clip on the McRib, Imahara along with teacher and
> > nonprofit director Wes Bellamy go to Oklahoma City to see how the McRib
> > is prepared. Kevin Nanke, vice president of McDonald's U.S. pork
> > supplier Lopez Foods, explains to them (and us) that the only
> > ingredients in a McRib are pork, water, dextrose, and preservatives to
> > "lock in the flavor." They watch as the minced meat is pressed into a
> > McRib-like shape and then flash-frozen to be boxed and shipped; the
> > segment ends with Bellamy and Imahara each eating their first McRib
> > sandwich. For the record, we don't ever see Imahara take more than one
> > bite of his McRib.
> >
> > One theory about the McRib is that McDonald's only promotes the sandwich
> > when pork prices are low. While it's hard to confirm whether some form
> > of McArbitrage is going on, it is noteworthy that pork futures have
> > fallen pretty steadily since July and tend to hit lows during the fall.
> > From that perspective, McDonald's Monday release of the McRib video
> > makes a lot of sense beyond just its transparency campaign.
>
>
>
> It is hard to argue with the most successful restaurant company in the world. Guess they are doing something right. I do not care for the lunch items, although the fries are good. I don't like hamburgers from most places, I like to make my own.
> I go to McDonalds many mornings when I am working and get the sausage muffin. It is good, right size, and costs $1. I also get the senior coffee and it is very good, and the right size for my tastes. One of the locations near an office I work at had good orange juice, but the mix went off and I did not order it anymore. Yes, it is from concentrate and is diluted at the dispenser. The OJ is Minute Maid.
>
> I am also amazed that people say McDonalds makes people fat. Go the the Carl Jr's site and look at their calorie counts.
>
> DaleP

Successful? Yeah - with ppl who think that's good eatin'.
They are either too busy or too ignorant to good at home.

NO reason you can't throw together a sausage muffin at home, is there?

On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:47:34 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> wrote:

> NO reason you can't throw together a sausage muffin at home, is there?

I have done that many times, but I like McDonald's sausage muffin
better. No matter how thin I make mine, it's still too thick and
there's always too much seasoning. Their's is just the right
thickness and with the right amount of seasoning, so I don't feel like
throwing up before I finish it.


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sf wrote:
>
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:47:34 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> > wrote:
>
> > NO reason you can't throw together a sausage muffin at home, is there?
>
> I have done that many times, but I like McDonald's sausage muffin
> better. No matter how thin I make mine, it's still too thick and
> there's always too much seasoning. Their's is just the right
> thickness and with the right amount of seasoning, so I don't feel like
> throwing up before I finish it.


Bland food for bland people?

On 2014-11-07 4:09 PM, dalep wrote:


>
> I am also amazed that people say McDonalds makes people fat. Go the
> the Carl Jr's site and look at their calorie counts.
>
>
You're amazed? I'm not. They both offer high calorie, high sugar, high
fat, high sodium fair. From the look of Carl's menu it seems that they
seem to cater to those who want more, but who are willing to pay more
for a larger portion. They are still basically selling the sorts of food
that are not really very good for most people. FWIW, the 1/2 pound
cheeseburger at Carl's is about double the values for McD's 1/4 pounder.

On 2014-11-07 5:46 PM, Bruce wrote:
ou're amazed? I'm not. They both offer high calorie, high sugar, high
>> fat, high sodium fair. From the look of Carl's menu it seems that they
>> seem to cater to those who want more, but who are willing to pay more
>> for a larger portion. They are still basically selling the sorts of food
>> that are not really very good for most people. FWIW, the 1/2 pound
>> cheeseburger at Carl's is about double the values for McD's 1/4 pounder.
>
> Didn't the guy from Super Size Me turn into one big zit with half the
> life expectancy of one?
>


Three meals a day at McD's,some of them supersized. By the end of the
month he had gained more than 20 pounds and has experiencing heart
palpitations.

On Friday, November 7, 2014 5:52:21 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-11-07 5:46 PM, Bruce wrote:
> ou're amazed? I'm not. They both offer high calorie, high sugar, high
> >> fat, high sodium fair. From the look of Carl's menu it seems that they
> >> seem to cater to those who want more, but who are willing to pay more
> >> for a larger portion. They are still basically selling the sorts of food
> >> that are not really very good for most people. FWIW, the 1/2 pound
> >> cheeseburger at Carl's is about double the values for McD's 1/4 pounder.
> >
> > Didn't the guy from Super Size Me turn into one big zit with half the
> > life expectancy of one?
> >
>
>
> Three meals a day at McD's,some of them supersized. By the end of the
> month he had gained more than 20 pounds and has experiencing heart
> palpitations.

That guy is a shill and you fell for it. Take a look at his work since then.. It was a scam. People have tried to replicate his experience and the results were - NADA. McDonald's IS trashy fast food. But it's just NOT going to manifest in health problems in a month or a year or a decade. It's like that brain-dead organization that said Alfredo is "heart attack on a plate". Really? I'm 53, I've been eating it all my life, I've had extensive tests and there is nothing wrong with me. Morons.

On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 09:35:39 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

>On Fri, 07 Nov 2014 14:15:15 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:47:34 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> wrote:
>>
>>> NO reason you can't throw together a sausage muffin at home, is there?
>>
>>I have done that many times, but I like McDonald's sausage muffin
>>better. No matter how thin I make mine, it's still too thick and
>>there's always too much seasoning. Their's is just the right
>>thickness and with the right amount of seasoning, so I don't feel like
>>throwing up before I finish it.
>
>I think that's an important criterion when judiging food.

Indeed, although it's a very odd thing to say.

[re-sending due to infernal-september losing the plot]

On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 08:15:55 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:09:04 -0800 (PST), dalep
> wrote:
>
>>It is hard to argue with the most successful restaurant company in the world. Guess they are doing something right.
>
>Yes, convenience for lazy people and/or people with no time to eat
>real food. I really can't quite accept the description of them as a
>restaurant, but that's probably yet another regional thing.
>
>>I do not care for the lunch items, although the fries are good. I don't like hamburgers from most places, I like to make my own.
>>I go to McDonalds many mornings when I am working and get the sausage muffin. It is good, right size, and costs $1. I also get the senior coffee and it is very good, and the right size for my tastes. One of the locations near an office I work at had good orange juice, but the mix went off and I did not order it anymore. Yes, it is from concentrate and is diluted at the dispenser. The OJ is Minute Maid.
>>
>>I am also amazed that people say McDonalds makes people fat. Go the the Carl Jr's site and look at their calorie counts.
>
>Stating 'calories' is such an oversimplification. There are calories,
>and then there are calories. Some make people obese and/or unwell, and
>some don't. Either way, mcdonalds is not healthy food.

[re-sending due to infernal-september losing the plot]

On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 11:05:50 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 09:35:39 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 07 Nov 2014 14:15:15 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:47:34 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> NO reason you can't throw together a sausage muffin at home, is there?
>>>
>>>I have done that many times, but I like McDonald's sausage muffin
>>>better. No matter how thin I make mine, it's still too thick and
>>>there's always too much seasoning. Their's is just the right
>>>thickness and with the right amount of seasoning, so I don't feel like
>>>throwing up before I finish it.
>>
>>I think that's an important criterion when judiging food.
>
>Indeed, although it's a very odd thing to say.

On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 09:40:57 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

> On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 06:51:05 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 11:11:44 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:22:29 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:42:54 -0500, Travis McGee >
> >> >>wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...y_see_how.html
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Nov. 4 2014 2:49 PM
> >> >>> McDonald's Brings in a Mythbuster to Prove Its McRibs Aren't That Gross
> >> >>> By Alison Griswold
> >> >>
> >> >>That's all peachy keen, but it's still just a pork burger. It isn't
> >> >>even a shadow of what the original McRib was. Those were real rib
> >> >>meat. You could even see the pocket where the ribs had been removed.
> >> >
> >> > Admittedly it's been about twenty years since I crossed the threshold
> >> > of McDogs but why anyone is getting uptight about their food, I can't
> >> > imagine. All tastes the same and is yucky. The last time I was
> >> > there I foolishly tried a lobster roll. It had the same flavour as
> >> > the burgers and everything else they sell, never been back since.
> >>
> >> I have been in a MdDs once ...
> >
> >I have no idea why Europeans would bother going even once. It's an
> >American thing you shouldn't feel a need to understand. McDonald's is
> >like gravy on fries in Canada, chip butty sandwiches in England, black
> >pudding in UK, etc - disgusting to outsiders, loved by the locals.
>
> If that was true there wouldn't be a McDonald's in every city in
> almost every country in the world.

You've forgotten the tourist factor.


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On 2014-11-08 1:14 AM, sf wrote:


>> If that was true there wouldn't be a McDonald's in every city in
>> almost every country in the world.
>
> You've forgotten the tourist factor.

They are not in every city and town like they are in North America, but
they are gaining in popularity. I don't think the tourists keep them in
business. The locals eat there too. I have some friends in the
Netherlands whose kids love MacDonalds. I have stepped into MacDonalds
in various European cities just to snoop on the conversations to see if
they were English speaking tourists or locals, and they were locals.

On Friday, November 7, 2014 2:47:38 PM UTC-7, Kalmia wrote:
> On Friday, November 7, 2014 4:09:08 PM UTC-5, dalep wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 3:42:58 PM UTC-7, Travis McGee wrote:
> > > http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...y_see_how.html
> > >
> > > Nov. 4 2014 2:49 PM
> > > McDonald's Brings in a Mythbuster to Prove Its McRibs Aren't That Gross
> > > By Alison Griswold
> > >
> > > There are a lot of questions about the McDonald's McRib. Is it real
> > > pork? Does it contain plastic? Will it bounce? McDonald's also isn't too
> > > crazy about some of these questions. So in an effort to dispel some of
> > > the more unflattering queries about its signature barbecue item, the
> > > company has released a new video on YouTube featuring self-declared
> > > McRib skeptic and TV personality Grant Imahara.
> > >
> > > The segment comes as McDonald's is struggling to revive interest in its
> > > fast-food offerings. Late last month, the company reported a 30 percent
> > > decline in profit in the third quarter and a 3.3 percent decrease in
> > > sales. It's being buffeted on all sides by widespread consumer
> > > skepticism, unshakable images of pink slime, and a seemingly undying
> > > love for Chipotle. So McDonald's is buckling down. As The New Yorker
> > > reports, it's launched a campaign to promote transparency and invited
> > > questions from the public. It's rolling out a series of videos and hired
> > > Imahara to be their investigative face. And come early next year, the
> > > champion of "I'm lovin' it" is also expected to debut a new slogan--one
> > > that perhaps acknowledges McDonalds' recent woes: "Lovin' Beats Hatin'."
> > >
> > > In the five-minute clip on the McRib, Imahara along with teacher and
> > > nonprofit director Wes Bellamy go to Oklahoma City to see how the McRib
> > > is prepared. Kevin Nanke, vice president of McDonald's U.S. pork
> > > supplier Lopez Foods, explains to them (and us) that the only
> > > ingredients in a McRib are pork, water, dextrose, and preservatives to
> > > "lock in the flavor." They watch as the minced meat is pressed into a
> > > McRib-like shape and then flash-frozen to be boxed and shipped; the
> > > segment ends with Bellamy and Imahara each eating their first McRib
> > > sandwich. For the record, we don't ever see Imahara take more than one
> > > bite of his McRib.
> > >
> > > One theory about the McRib is that McDonald's only promotes the sandwich
> > > when pork prices are low. While it's hard to confirm whether some form
> > > of McArbitrage is going on, it is noteworthy that pork futures have
> > > fallen pretty steadily since July and tend to hit lows during the fall.
> > > From that perspective, McDonald's Monday release of the McRib video
> > > makes a lot of sense beyond just its transparency campaign.
> >
> >
> >
> > It is hard to argue with the most successful restaurant company in the world. Guess they are doing something right. I do not care for the lunch items, although the fries are good. I don't like hamburgers from most places, I like to make my own.
> > I go to McDonalds many mornings when I am working and get the sausage muffin. It is good, right size, and costs $1. I also get the senior coffee and it is very good, and the right size for my tastes. One of the locations near an office I work at had good orange juice, but the mix went off and I did not order it anymore. Yes, it is from concentrate and is diluted at the dispenser. The OJ is Minute Maid.
> >
> > I am also amazed that people say McDonalds makes people fat. Go the the Carl Jr's site and look at their calorie counts.
> >
> > DaleP
>
> Successful? Yeah - with ppl who think that's good eatin'.
> They are either too busy or too ignorant to good at home.
>
> NO reason you can't throw together a sausage muffin at home, is there?

When I get up in the AM I take a prescription drug that does not allow me to eat any food for 1 hour 15 minutes. As I am approaching work, the time has passed and I am hungry. And yes, the convenience factor certainly comes in. I don't really want to take the time and effort to make a breakfast sandwich as I am getting out the door. If I did, I would use a store bought muffin and store bought sausage and a slice of store bought cheese. Wait, isn't that what a McMuffin sandwich is?? I am insulted at your reference to being to "ignorant to good (sic) at home".

DaleP

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2014-11-08 1:14 AM, sf wrote:
>
> >> If that was true there wouldn't be a McDonald's in every city in
> >> almost every country in the world.
> >
> > You've forgotten the tourist factor.
>
> They are not in every city and town like they are in North America, but
> they are gaining in popularity. I don't think the tourists keep them in
> business. The locals eat there too. I have some friends in the
> Netherlands whose kids love MacDonalds. I have stepped into MacDonalds
> in various European cities just to snoop on the conversations to see if
> they were English speaking tourists or locals, and they were locals.

McDonalds food is good food - just different food. Their profit line
and success proves that. Only here in RFC is it called crap food and
people that buy it are idiots with no taste. Silly.

I love homemade hamburgers but I also love McD hamburgers. Different
species using the same name.

G.

On 2014-11-08 12:12 PM, Gary wrote:

>
> McDonalds food is good food - just different food. Their profit line
> and success proves that. Only here in RFC is it called crap food and
> people that buy it are idiots with no taste. Silly.
>
> I love homemade hamburgers but I also love McD hamburgers. Different
> species using the same name.


Do you really think that MacDonalds food is good? I don't. It is fast
and cheap, but not very nutritious and not very satisfying.

On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 12:24:01 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

> On 2014-11-08 12:12 PM, Gary wrote:
>
> >
> > McDonalds food is good food - just different food. Their profit line
> > and success proves that. Only here in RFC is it called crap food and
> > people that buy it are idiots with no taste. Silly.
> >
> > I love homemade hamburgers but I also love McD hamburgers. Different
> > species using the same name.
>
>
> Do you really think that MacDonalds food is good? I don't. It is fast
> and cheap, but not very nutritious and not very satisfying.
>
Nobody is making you eat there.


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Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2014-11-08 12:12 PM, Gary wrote:
>
> >
> > McDonalds food is good food - just different food. Their profit line
> > and success proves that. Only here in RFC is it called crap food and
> > people that buy it are idiots with no taste. Silly.
> >
> > I love homemade hamburgers but I also love McD hamburgers. Different
> > species using the same name.
>
> Do you really think that MacDonalds food is good? I don't. It is fast
> and cheap, but not very nutritious and not very satisfying.

When I say good, I'm not talking about nutrition, fast service or
cheap. It's good for my tastebuds and I do like it occasionally. Most
fast food is very satisfying to me. It's a treat to eat for dinner. I
rarely buy it but I'm very happy when I do.

G.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...

> McDonalds food is good food - just different food. Their profit line
> and success proves that. Only here in RFC is it called crap food and
> people that buy it are idiots with no taste. Silly.
>
> I love homemade hamburgers but I also love McD hamburgers. Different
> species using the same name.
>
> G.

I think it's good too. I don't go there anymore for other reasons, but not
because the food is bad.

Cheri

"dalep" > wrote in message
news:44ba2cf6-ac66-45ae-b721-

When I get up in the AM I take a prescription drug that does not allow me to
eat any food for 1 hour 15 minutes. As I am approaching work, the time has
passed and I am hungry. And yes, the convenience factor certainly comes in.
I don't really want to take the time and effort to make a breakfast sandwich
as I am getting out the door. If I did, I would use a store bought muffin
and store bought sausage and a slice of store bought cheese. Wait, isn't
that what a McMuffin sandwich is?? I am insulted at your reference to being
to "ignorant to good (sic) at home".

DaleP

======

Get used to being insulted in RFC, no matter what the subject is, a few
rowdy juveniles will jump on you. LOL

Cheri

On 2014-11-08 12:36 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 12:24:01 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2014-11-08 12:12 PM, Gary wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> McDonalds food is good food - just different food. Their profit line
>>> and success proves that. Only here in RFC is it called crap food and
>>> people that buy it are idiots with no taste. Silly.
>>>
>>> I love homemade hamburgers but I also love McD hamburgers. Different
>>> species using the same name.
>>
>>
>> Do you really think that MacDonalds food is good? I don't. It is fast
>> and cheap, but not very nutritious and not very satisfying.
>>
> Nobody is making you eat there.


You're right, and I don't there. I tried their coffee last month. First
time I have been there in about 15 years, and I am not likely to return.
>

On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 12:12:26 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2014-11-08 1:14 AM, sf wrote:
>>
>> >> If that was true there wouldn't be a McDonald's in every city in
>> >> almost every country in the world.
>> >
>> > You've forgotten the tourist factor.
>>
>> They are not in every city and town like they are in North America, but
>> they are gaining in popularity. I don't think the tourists keep them in
>> business. The locals eat there too. I have some friends in the
>> Netherlands whose kids love MacDonalds. I have stepped into MacDonalds
>> in various European cities just to snoop on the conversations to see if
>> they were English speaking tourists or locals, and they were locals.
>
>McDonalds food is good food - just different food. Their profit line
>and success proves that. Only here in RFC is it called crap food and
>people that buy it are idiots with no taste. Silly.
>
>I love homemade hamburgers but I also love McD hamburgers. Different
>species using the same name.
>
>G.

Anyone who says McCraps is good food doesn't know what good food is.
As a kid my friend Tom across the street said McCraps burgers werer
the best food in the world, I said lobster was.

Think about it!

John Kuthe...

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On 11/8/2014 1:05 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-11-08 12:36 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 12:24:01 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2014-11-08 12:12 PM, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> McDonalds food is good food - just different food. Their profit line
>>>> and success proves that. Only here in RFC is it called crap food and
>>>> people that buy it are idiots with no taste. Silly.
>>>>
>>>> I love homemade hamburgers but I also love McD hamburgers. Different
>>>> species using the same name.
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you really think that MacDonalds food is good? I don't. It is fast
>>> and cheap, but not very nutritious and not very satisfying.
>>>
>> Nobody is making you eat there.
>
>
> You're right, and I don't there. I tried their coffee last month. First
> time I have been there in about 15 years, and I am not likely to return.
>>
>

Right after I posted that article I went to McD's and got a couple of
McRibs and some fries. It was all good. I usually only get their food
about once or twice a year, and there are only a few things of their's
that I will eat.

I don't care for their regular burgers, but I will eat a Big Mac and
some of the other larger burgers. I also really like the fish sandwich.
And I like the McMuffin sandwiches. I eat there so seldom that I can't
really speak to the rest of the menu.

"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 12:12:26 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>>Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2014-11-08 1:14 AM, sf wrote:
>>>
>>> >> If that was true there wouldn't be a McDonald's in every city in
>>> >> almost every country in the world.
>>> >
>>> > You've forgotten the tourist factor.
>>>
>>> They are not in every city and town like they are in North America, but
>>> they are gaining in popularity. I don't think the tourists keep them in
>>> business. The locals eat there too. I have some friends in the
>>> Netherlands whose kids love MacDonalds. I have stepped into MacDonalds
>>> in various European cities just to snoop on the conversations to see if
>>> they were English speaking tourists or locals, and they were locals.
>>
>>McDonalds food is good food - just different food. Their profit line
>>and success proves that. Only here in RFC is it called crap food and
>>people that buy it are idiots with no taste. Silly.
>>
>>I love homemade hamburgers but I also love McD hamburgers. Different
>>species using the same name.
>>
>>G.
>
> Anyone who says McCraps is good food doesn't know what good food is.
> As a kid my friend Tom across the street said McCraps burgers werer
> the best food in the world, I said lobster was.
>
> Think about it!
>
> John Kuthe...

No reason to think about it, it's just your opinion, nothing more.

Cheri

On 11/8/2014 11:12 AM, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2014-11-08 1:14 AM, sf wrote:
>>
>>>> If that was true there wouldn't be a McDonald's in every city in
>>>> almost every country in the world.
>>>
>>> You've forgotten the tourist factor.
>>
>> They are not in every city and town like they are in North America, but
>> they are gaining in popularity. I don't think the tourists keep them in
>> business. The locals eat there too. I have some friends in the
>> Netherlands whose kids love MacDonalds. I have stepped into MacDonalds
>> in various European cities just to snoop on the conversations to see if
>> they were English speaking tourists or locals, and they were locals.
>
> McDonalds food is good food - just different food. Their profit line
> and success proves that. Only here in RFC is it called crap food and
> people that buy it are idiots with no taste. Silly.
>
> I love homemade hamburgers but I also love McD hamburgers. Different
> species using the same name.
>
> G.


If you like McD, you should continue to go there, do whatever makes you
happy, you are not the only person in America that likes McD. We eat at
a local chain, Whataburger, but we have a McD next to the freeway, so
travelers have a familiar place where they can go. I heard on the news,
that sales at Burger King have exceeded McD.

Becca

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2014-11-08 12:36 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 12:24:01 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2014-11-08 12:12 PM, Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> McDonalds food is good food - just different food. Their profit line
>>>> and success proves that. Only here in RFC is it called crap food and
>>>> people that buy it are idiots with no taste. Silly.
>>>>
>>>> I love homemade hamburgers but I also love McD hamburgers. Different
>>>> species using the same name.
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you really think that MacDonalds food is good? I don't. It is fast
>>> and cheap, but not very nutritious and not very satisfying.
>>>
>> Nobody is making you eat there.
>
>
> You're right, and I don't there. I tried their coffee last month. First
> time I have been there in about 15 years, and I am not likely to return.

I imagine they'll survive now too since they survived your 15 year absence,
wonder of wonders.

Cheri