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On 10/14/2014 1:51 AM, Jeßus wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 17:56:58 -0400, jmcquown > > wrote: > >> On 10/13/2014 3:48 AM, Jeßus wrote: >>> On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 21:44:00 -0700, "Julie Bove" >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>> On Sunday, October 12, 2014 9:07:59 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I really wish I could cut down on the junk snail mail. Ads for stores >>>>> where I would never shop and catalogs that will never be opened. >>>>> >>>> If those catalogs have a 1-800 number on them you can call and ask for your >>>> name A N D address to be removed from their mailing list. >>>> >> (snip) >> >>>> You seriously do not know how many I receive! I am not about to spend many >>>> hours and many days searching for a phone number on there and then calling. >>>> Plus any time I order from one of those places it just generates new >>>> catalogs. You seem not to know how these things work. >> >> No, Julie, *you* seem to not understand how these things work. You >> order something, of course they'll send you another catalog. Then >> they'll sell their mailing list so you also get *those* catalogs. DUH! >> >>> Another rejection of a perfectly good solution (which I also used to >>> do when junk mail was a problem). Has Bove EVER accepted a suggestion >>> and thanked them for it? >>> >> Doubtful. And as someone else mentioned, you don't have to make it a >> marathon telephone session. The phone number is always on the catalog. >> (Another DUH moment since, believe it or not, not everyone has a >> computer - some people phone in their orders.) Fact is, they don't >> *have* to take you off their list if you've ever done business with >> them. Most will, though. But the next time you order something from >> them (even online) they'll just put you right back on it. > > We have something here called a 'do not call' list. > Basically you get your name and number on that list so that 'legit' > spammers can't annoy you on the phone. Unfortunately, so-called > charities are exempt... > The US Do Not Call List won't work if you've actually done business with a company in the past. Charities and political organizations are exempt from it. > ... and it doesnt stop the nice people from Micro$haft helping me with > my computer full of viruses. I generally don't mind those calls > because they're great fun to string along while you do other things in > the kitchen, shed or whilst on the computer. > I've yet to receive one of those but then, as I've said many times if I don't recognize the name/number of the person calling, I just don't answer. Jill |
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Glass can be recycled into new glass. Or put into tile or countertops. It has lots of uses. N. |
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"Nancy2" > wrote in message ... > > Glass can be recycled into new glass. Or put into tile or countertops. > It has lots of uses. > > N. it can also be used in place of beach sand. http://www.fortbragg.com/explore/glass-beach/ |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:05:06 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote: >On 10/14/2014 1:51 AM, Jeßus wrote: >> On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 17:56:58 -0400, jmcquown > >> wrote: >>> Doubtful. And as someone else mentioned, you don't have to make it a >>> marathon telephone session. The phone number is always on the catalog. >>> (Another DUH moment since, believe it or not, not everyone has a >>> computer - some people phone in their orders.) Fact is, they don't >>> *have* to take you off their list if you've ever done business with >>> them. Most will, though. But the next time you order something from >>> them (even online) they'll just put you right back on it. >> >> We have something here called a 'do not call' list. >> Basically you get your name and number on that list so that 'legit' >> spammers can't annoy you on the phone. Unfortunately, so-called >> charities are exempt... >> >The US Do Not Call List won't work if you've actually done business with >a company in the past. Charities and political organizations are exempt >from it. > >> ... and it doesnt stop the nice people from Micro$haft helping me with >> my computer full of viruses. I generally don't mind those calls >> because they're great fun to string along while you do other things in >> the kitchen, shed or whilst on the computer. >> >I've yet to receive one of those but then, as I've said many times if I >don't recognize the name/number of the person calling, I just don't answer. I don't have caller I.D, but it's a good way to screen calls. |
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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > On 10/14/2014 1:45 AM, Jeßus wrote: > >>> And if you just >>> toss junk mail in the trash without destroying your name and address >>> it won't be long your ID will be stolen. >> >> Oh well, she deserves it. >> > > Really? You keep track of that sort of thing to make determinations? Do > you maintain a list? > > Or are you just a lemming Julie basher? It's continuing. Now someone from the home repair newsgroup had posted crap about me on the diabetes food group. I feel like there is one person using a variety of handles or something. Anyway... How in the world could someone use a piece of junk mail to steal my identity? If that were the case, anyone who knew someone else's name and address could steal identities. Gee... All they would need is a phone book! *sheesh* |
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"sf" > wrote in message ... > On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 06:16:50 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia > > wrote: > >> All part of the tone-y atmosphere you're living in. They're above all >> that - "What? Save the earth? What ever could you MEAN? The earth is >> here for ME and my pleasure. Besides, I might chip my mani or I might >> get my widdle finnies dirty sorting thru all that trahhhhsh." >> > > The thing is that you're not sorting through trash when you recycle > and there's something for every need/want these days. > http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden...5/product.html > http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden...8/product.html > http://www.houzz.com/photos/7175974/...cans-san-diego > http://www.houzz.com/photos/6884081/...hen-trash-cans > But you don't have to convince Jill... it's the dinosaurs in charge > where she lives who are the numbskulls. The trash company could > impose large fines for picking up unsorted garbage, but it sounds like > they don't care either. I bet they put all their recycling and trash > into a landfill anyway and "recycling" is just a feel good service > they're offering or they would be more aggressive about Dataw > residents separating recycling from trash. Unfortunately there are vast areas of this country that simply do not recycle. It's hard for me to believe because here in WA we have been doing it since I was a kid. And back then, nobody picked it up for us. We either found a use for those things such as making mats or fire starters out of newspapers, or we took the stuff to a recycling place. |
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"Kalmia" > wrote in message ... On Monday, October 13, 2014 10:17:46 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote: > On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 18:48:14 +1100, Je�us > wrote: > > > > >On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 21:44:00 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > > wrote: > > > > > > wrote in message > > ... > > >>On Sunday, October 12, 2014 9:07:59 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I really wish I could cut down on the junk snail mail. Ads for stores > > >>> where I would never shop and catalogs that will never be opened. > > >>> > > >>If those catalogs have a 1-800 number on them you can call and ask for > >>your > > >>name A N D address to be removed from their mailing list. Junk mail > >>that > > >>has a postage paid return envelope can be use to make the same request. > >>The > > >>company sending out the original mail has to pay for that postage paid > > >>envelope, not you. I've used both methods numerous times and it's > >>amazing > > >>doing these two things can really cut down on that garbage. > > >> > > >>You seriously do not know how many I receive! I am not about to spend > >>many > > >>hours and many days searching for a phone number on there and then > >>calling. > > >>Plus any time I order from one of those places it just generates new > > >>catalogs. You seem not to know how these things work. I also don't > >>know > > >>what kind of junk mail would have a postage paid envelope and I'm not > >>going > > >>to open things to look for one. > > > > > >Another rejection of a perfectly good solution (which I also used to > > >do when junk mail was a problem). Has Bove EVER accepted a suggestion > > >and thanked them for it? > > > > Julie is truly a LAZY imbecile... takes very little effort to call > > those companies, and their phone number is prominently displayed, on > > nearly every page of their catalogs. And the thing is once they take > > your name off their list they stop making it available to other > > marketers... in less than two months junk mail goes down to only a few > > pieces, those you can't stop like political crap. And if you just > > toss junk mail in the trash without destroying your name and address > > it won't be long your ID will be stolen. Here's a good one. What to do with all those stinkin' address labels you get in the charity solicitations. I won't just throw in the recycling ( ID matter ) and to feed 'em thru my shredder will only gum it up. So, they collect in my desk drawer - must have a thousand by now. I HAVE put them to use attaching two sheets of paper rather than have staple-buildup, but it's a rare need. Other than that, any ideas? I sent money to the USO - wow - they are really baaaaad about re-solicitation. --- I used to get those. Haven't gotten any in years. |
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"graham" > wrote in message ... > On 14/10/2014 7:28 AM, Kalmia wrote: >> On Monday, October 13, 2014 9:59:55 AM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote: >>> On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 19:07:59 -0700, "Julie Bove" >>> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> > wrote in message >>> >>>> ... >>> >>>>> On Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:13:32 AM UTC-7, sf wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> I just realized that we don't generate much. I don't use my garbage >>> >>>>>> disposal very much. We don't compost, so coffee grounds and food >>> >>>>>> trimmings go into the (covered) garbage can and yet, we generate only >>> >>>>>> one bag of waste per week... which turns into more like half a bag >>> >>>>>> when it's taken out of the trash can to go to the trash bin, so we >>> >>>>>> empty the trash baskets in the den, bedrooms and bathrooms in there >>> >>>>>> too. We didn't eat out at all last week and still didn't generate >>> >>>>>> enough garbage to make emptying the kitchen trash worthwhile. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Depends on whether one of us has a cold or not. I took out a bale of >>>>> used >>> >>>>> kleenex last week. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> We ditched the 13 gallon tall kitchen bags, because the kitchen >>>>> garbage >>> >>>>> can >>> >>>>> stank long before the bag filled. Now we switched to 8 gallon Glad >>>>> bags >>> >>>>> (generics aren't tough enough), and change them midweek, whether full >>>>> or >>> >>>>> not. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> We did compost our vegetable waste for years, but then lost interest. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> Is reducing your >>> >>>>>> carbon footprint a normal part of getting "older"? >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> We don't cook much out of boxes, jars, and cans any more. Not so many >>> >>>>> catalogs come; we're down to three magazines and one newspaper -- >>>>> which >>> >>>>> is itself shrinking. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I really wish I could cut down on the junk snail mail. Besides the >>>> cans, >>> >>>> that really is the bulk of my recycling. Every day I go through the >>> >>>> and it almost all goes into the bin straight away. >>> >>> >>> >>> I get mail at my PO Box, junk mail never comes home... I tear up my >>> >>> name and address and toss it in their bin... of late there are tons of >>> >>> political propaganda, I don't read any. >> >> >> >> Wait'll the medigap ads start rolling in...... >> >> >> I have successfully stopped the catalogs - yes, it took a few phone >> calls, but I usually chat em up a bit, ask about their weather, shit like >> that. >> > You were lucky. I still get heavy optics catalogues despite 2 phone calls > and several e-mails to take me off the list. > Graham Some years ago, I was getting 5 copies of the Fingerhut catalog. They used my name in a variety of ways and some not spelled right. I never once ordered from them either. |
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"Pico Rico" > wrote in message ... > > "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message > ... >> On 10/14/2014 1:45 AM, Jeßus wrote: >> >>>> And if you just >>>> toss junk mail in the trash without destroying your name and address >>>> it won't be long your ID will be stolen. >>> > > your name and address are a matter of public record. I doubt ID thieves > need it to get started. > > They need SSN, account numbers, etc. Yep. |
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"Janet" > wrote in message t... > In article >, says... >> >> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message >> ... >> > On 10/14/2014 1:45 AM, Jeßus wrote: >> > >> >>> And if you just >> >>> toss junk mail in the trash without destroying your name and address >> >>> it won't be long your ID will be stolen. >> >> >> >> your name and address are a matter of public record. > > Depends where you live. In the UK, name and current address *may* > appear in some open "public records" of the electoral roll (only for > registered voters) and print phone directory (only for landline users). > But it only appears in those open public registers/ directories if the > owner consents. Many choose not to. > Here, unless you have an unlisted number, your name and address will be in the phone book along with your phone number. Also available online. <snip> |
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"Becca EmaNymton" > wrote in message ... >> That's exactly what I do... got rid of all those fercocktah Cruise >> catalogs... they spend a fortune on those slick mags, and they send >> a bunch every week. If they didn't send so many a cruise would cost >> half as much. > > The cruise lines stopped publishing cruise brochures many years ago, > since you can see the deck plans, online. We sell over a million dollars > worth of cruises every year, and we do not have one > brochure in the office. I like your idea of stopping junk mail, since it > benefits neither party. Oh, I wish they would! I don't mind getting the Lehman's catalog because they cater to the Amish and other people who don't use electricity. Although they also have a website. I just see no reason for the catalogs. |
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"sf" > wrote in message ... > On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia > > wrote: > >> My recycling company recently said they may stop accepting glass - can't >> find a market for it. Then what? We're back to landfilling? > > Holy cow, I thought glass was melted and reused! There used to be a shop in Half Moon Bay CA. Not sure if it is still there or not. They sold broken glass for craft projects. They had a big pile of it outside. I tripped over something on the way in and nearly fell into it. Angela was just very little then and tried to grab a handful. That seemed like a dangerous thing to me. |
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"jmcquown" > wrote in message ... > On 10/14/2014 1:51 AM, Jeßus wrote: >> On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 17:56:58 -0400, jmcquown > >> wrote: >> >>> On 10/13/2014 3:48 AM, Jeßus wrote: >>>> On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 21:44:00 -0700, "Julie Bove" >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>> On Sunday, October 12, 2014 9:07:59 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I really wish I could cut down on the junk snail mail. Ads for >>>>>> stores >>>>>> where I would never shop and catalogs that will never be opened. >>>>>> >>>>> If those catalogs have a 1-800 number on them you can call and ask for >>>>> your >>>>> name A N D address to be removed from their mailing list. >>>>> >>> (snip) >>> >>>>> You seriously do not know how many I receive! I am not about to spend >>>>> many >>>>> hours and many days searching for a phone number on there and then >>>>> calling. >>>>> Plus any time I order from one of those places it just generates new >>>>> catalogs. You seem not to know how these things work. >>> >>> No, Julie, *you* seem to not understand how these things work. You >>> order something, of course they'll send you another catalog. Then >>> they'll sell their mailing list so you also get *those* catalogs. DUH! >>> >>>> Another rejection of a perfectly good solution (which I also used to >>>> do when junk mail was a problem). Has Bove EVER accepted a suggestion >>>> and thanked them for it? >>>> >>> Doubtful. And as someone else mentioned, you don't have to make it a >>> marathon telephone session. The phone number is always on the catalog. >>> (Another DUH moment since, believe it or not, not everyone has a >>> computer - some people phone in their orders.) Fact is, they don't >>> *have* to take you off their list if you've ever done business with >>> them. Most will, though. But the next time you order something from >>> them (even online) they'll just put you right back on it. >> >> We have something here called a 'do not call' list. >> Basically you get your name and number on that list so that 'legit' >> spammers can't annoy you on the phone. Unfortunately, so-called >> charities are exempt... >> > The US Do Not Call List won't work if you've actually done business with a > company in the past. Charities and political organizations are exempt > from it. > >> ... and it doesnt stop the nice people from Micro$haft helping me with >> my computer full of viruses. I generally don't mind those calls >> because they're great fun to string along while you do other things in >> the kitchen, shed or whilst on the computer. >> > I've yet to receive one of those but then, as I've said many times if I > don't recognize the name/number of the person calling, I just don't > answer. I've gotten many of those calls. I got one just the other day and immediately began yelling and cursing at the guy before I hung up on me. Both husband and daughter were angry at me for being rude. Ha! I will not be nice to a person when I know they are attempting to rip me off. Guy should be used to it by now. |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 23:25:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: > > "Becca EmaNymton" > wrote in message > ... > >> That's exactly what I do... got rid of all those fercocktah Cruise > >> catalogs... they spend a fortune on those slick mags, and they send > >> a bunch every week. If they didn't send so many a cruise would cost > >> half as much. > > > > The cruise lines stopped publishing cruise brochures many years ago, > > since you can see the deck plans, online. We sell over a million dollars > > worth of cruises every year, and we do not have one > > brochure in the office. I like your idea of stopping junk mail, since it > > benefits neither party. > > Oh, I wish they would! I don't mind getting the Lehman's catalog because > they cater to the Amish and other people who don't use electricity. > Although they also have a website. I just see no reason for the catalogs. Because people who don't have electricity won't have online access. -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 23:25:19 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote: >Oh, I wish they would! I don't mind getting the Lehman's catalog because >they cater to the Amish and other people who don't use electricity. >Although they also have a website. I just see no reason for the catalogs. True. The Amish can always go online and go to the Lehman's site. |
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On 10/15/2014 2:12 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > I sent money to the USO - wow - they are really baaaaad about > re-solicitation. Most charities are like that. I prefer to give anonymously for that reason. I stopped giving to one because then just called far too often, but it was a good one otherwise. I give when I want to give, not when you call me. |
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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > On 10/15/2014 2:12 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> >> I sent money to the USO - wow - they are really baaaaad about >> re-solicitation. > > Most charities are like that. I prefer to give anonymously for that > reason. I stopped giving to one because then just called far too often, > but it was a good one otherwise. I give when I want to give, not when you > call me. Exactly the same with us! -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/ |
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On 10/15/2014 2:59 AM, sf wrote:
> Because people who don't have electricity won't have online access. Reminds me of a guy I worked with who, when I told him I have a tire inflator, you plug it into your cigarette lighter, said So if your battery is dead you can't use. I said If your battery is dead, doesn't matter if your tires are flat. Having said that, many Amish are much more connected than I'd have thought. nancy |
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On 10/15/2014 9:33 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 10/15/2014 2:59 AM, sf wrote: > >> Because people who don't have electricity won't have online access. > > Reminds me of a guy I worked with who, when I told him I have > a tire inflator, you plug it into your cigarette lighter, said > So if your battery is dead you can't use. I said If your > battery is dead, doesn't matter if your tires are flat. > > Having said that, many Amish are much more connected than I'd > have thought. > > nancy > And many have electricity. The do not connect to the grid, but they can use a gas powered generator and then power tools. They have some nice shops and often make furniture and garden sheds. The one I bought is Amish made in PA. |
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On 10/15/2014 9:33 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> Reminds me of a guy I worked with who, when I told him I have > a tire inflator, you plug it into your cigarette lighter, said > So if your battery is dead you can't use. I said If your > battery is dead, doesn't matter if your tires are flat. That's FUNNY!!! Jill |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:42:45 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> On 10/15/2014 9:33 AM, Nancy Young wrote: > > On 10/15/2014 2:59 AM, sf wrote: > > > >> Because people who don't have electricity won't have online access. > > > > Reminds me of a guy I worked with who, when I told him I have > > a tire inflator, you plug it into your cigarette lighter, said > > So if your battery is dead you can't use. I said If your > > battery is dead, doesn't matter if your tires are flat. > > > > Having said that, many Amish are much more connected than I'd > > have thought. > > > > nancy > > > > And many have electricity. The do not connect to the grid, but they can > use a gas powered generator and then power tools. They have some nice > shops and often make furniture and garden sheds. The one I bought is > Amish made in PA. The logic as to why it's okay to use electricity but not okay to be on the grid is escaping me. -- Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them. |
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On 10/15/2014 9:47 AM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:42:45 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > >> On 10/15/2014 9:33 AM, Nancy Young wrote: >>> On 10/15/2014 2:59 AM, sf wrote: >>> >>>> Because people who don't have electricity won't have online access. >>> >>> Reminds me of a guy I worked with who, when I told him I have >>> a tire inflator, you plug it into your cigarette lighter, said >>> So if your battery is dead you can't use. I said If your >>> battery is dead, doesn't matter if your tires are flat. >>> >>> Having said that, many Amish are much more connected than I'd >>> have thought. >>> >>> nancy >>> >> >> And many have electricity. The do not connect to the grid, but they can >> use a gas powered generator and then power tools. They have some nice >> shops and often make furniture and garden sheds. The one I bought is >> Amish made in PA. > > The logic as to why it's okay to use electricity but not okay to be on > the grid is escaping me. > > Self-sufficiency. Jill |
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On 2014-10-15 9:03 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > Most charities are like that. I prefer to give anonymously for that > reason. I stopped giving to one because then just called far too often, > but it was a good one otherwise. I give when I want to give, not when > you call me. Charities used to be pretty good about fund raising to finance their good work. Unfortunately, it appears to have become a business of raising funds. They want you to fill out all the information about yourself, your name, address, telephone number, email address etc. Most people want a receipt for income tax purposes, but when they get all that information. Then they start calling you back, mailing, emailing etc. Worse yet, they sell your information to other charity fundraisers. We used to give to the Cancer Society. Now we get mail from the Cancer Society, the Liver Cancer Society, the Leukemia Society, the Kinder Cancer Society. If there is a body part that can get cancer there is a society raising money for it and they all send me beg letters. When I go through the checkout at the grocery store they automatically ask if I want to donate to such and such charity. They used to ask if I wanted to donate a Loonie, but now they ask if I want to donate a Toonie. I am tempted to offer to buy the cashier a coffee so I know she won't be spending it on booze. |
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"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message ... > On 10/15/2014 2:12 AM, Julie Bove wrote: >> >> >> I sent money to the USO - wow - they are really baaaaad about >> re-solicitation. > > Most charities are like that. I prefer to give anonymously for that > reason. I stopped giving to one because then just called far too often, > but it was a good one otherwise. I give when I want to give, not when you > call me. I didn't say that. |
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"sf" > wrote in message ... > On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 23:25:19 -0700, "Julie Bove" > > wrote: > >> >> "Becca EmaNymton" > wrote in message >> ... >> >> That's exactly what I do... got rid of all those fercocktah Cruise >> >> catalogs... they spend a fortune on those slick mags, and they send >> >> a bunch every week. If they didn't send so many a cruise would cost >> >> half as much. >> > >> > The cruise lines stopped publishing cruise brochures many years ago, >> > since you can see the deck plans, online. We sell over a million >> > dollars >> > worth of cruises every year, and we do not have one >> > brochure in the office. I like your idea of stopping junk mail, since >> > it >> > benefits neither party. >> >> Oh, I wish they would! I don't mind getting the Lehman's catalog because >> they cater to the Amish and other people who don't use electricity. >> Although they also have a website. I just see no reason for the >> catalogs. > > Because people who don't have electricity won't have online access. Yes. Which is why I said I don't mind the Lehman's catalog. Duh. It's all the other catalogs I don't get. It's not like the Amish are wearing fashionable clothing or makeup. |
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"sf" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:42:45 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote: > >> On 10/15/2014 9:33 AM, Nancy Young wrote: >> > On 10/15/2014 2:59 AM, sf wrote: >> > >> >> Because people who don't have electricity won't have online access. >> > >> > Reminds me of a guy I worked with who, when I told him I have >> > a tire inflator, you plug it into your cigarette lighter, said >> > So if your battery is dead you can't use. I said If your >> > battery is dead, doesn't matter if your tires are flat. >> > >> > Having said that, many Amish are much more connected than I'd >> > have thought. >> > >> > nancy >> > >> >> And many have electricity. The do not connect to the grid, but they can >> use a gas powered generator and then power tools. They have some nice >> shops and often make furniture and garden sheds. The one I bought is >> Amish made in PA. > > The logic as to why it's okay to use electricity but not okay to be on > the grid is escaping me. A lot of their logic escapes me. Such as that it's okay to have a phone. Just not in the house. |
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On 10/15/2014 8:33 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 10/15/2014 2:59 AM, sf wrote: > >> Because people who don't have electricity won't have online access. > > Reminds me of a guy I worked with who, when I told him I have > a tire inflator, you plug it into your cigarette lighter, said > So if your battery is dead you can't use. I said If your > battery is dead, doesn't matter if your tires are flat. > > Having said that, many Amish are much more connected than I'd > have thought. > > nancy > Back when I had a storefront travel agency in Pennsylvania (early to mid 90's) the Amish used to come in and ask for brochures. They used them to teach their children about the world in general and other cultures. Back then, I was also selling train tickets and they did buy those from me. I was required by local code to have a hitching rail for their horses. FWIW... many Amish do have electricity in their barns because it is mandatory for the dairy equipment and license. That is allowed by their religion... and so in a lot of Amish barns, you will find sewing rooms with electric sewing machines and maybe a TV... and a computer. Oh... and if you drive past an Amish farm and see what looks like an outhouse in the front yard... that isn't an outhouse. It is a phone booth. Amish aren't allowed to have phones in their houses but there are ways of getting around that. <vbg> Nancy is very correct... the Amish are much more connected than most people would believe. George L |
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On 15/10/2014 8:40 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-10-15 9:03 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> >> Most charities are like that. I prefer to give anonymously for that >> reason. I stopped giving to one because then just called far too often, >> but it was a good one otherwise. I give when I want to give, not when >> you call me. > > Charities used to be pretty good about fund raising to finance their > good work. Unfortunately, it appears to have become a business of > raising funds. They want you to fill out all the information about > yourself, your name, address, telephone number, email address etc. Most > people want a receipt for income tax purposes, but when they get all > that information. Then they start calling you back, mailing, emailing > etc. Worse yet, they sell your information to other charity fundraisers. > > We used to give to the Cancer Society. Now we get mail from the Cancer > Society, the Liver Cancer Society, the Leukemia Society, the Kinder > Cancer Society. If there is a body part that can get cancer there is a > society raising money for it and they all send me beg letters. > > When I go through the checkout at the grocery store they automatically > ask if I want to donate to such and such charity. They used to ask if I > wanted to donate a Loonie, but now they ask if I want to donate a > Toonie. I am tempted to offer to buy the cashier a coffee so I know she > won't be spending it on booze. > I still give to the main Cancer charity, guilt I suppose, being a so-called survivor. Last year, I donated and a few weeks later received the address-label package with a request for more. I lost it when a month after that I received their calendar and a request for $200. I e-mailed them and told them to take me off the mailing list. The CEO of the charity has a salary of around $300k, which is obscene. The highest salary at the local foodbank, a large organization, is significantly less than $100k. Graham |
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On 10/15/2014 10:51 AM, George Leppla wrote:
> On 10/15/2014 8:33 AM, Nancy Young wrote: >> Having said that, many Amish are much more connected than I'd >> have thought. >> > Back when I had a storefront travel agency in Pennsylvania (early to mid > 90's) the Amish used to come in and ask for brochures. They used them > to teach their children about the world in general and other cultures. > Back then, I was also selling train tickets and they did buy those from > me. I was required by local code to have a hitching rail for their horses. I know that a Costco in that area has a horse hitching area. Somewhat like a big carport as I recall. > FWIW... many Amish do have electricity in their barns because it is > mandatory for the dairy equipment and license. That is allowed by their > religion... and so in a lot of Amish barns, you will find sewing rooms > with electric sewing machines and maybe a TV... and a computer. > > Oh... and if you drive past an Amish farm and see what looks like an > outhouse in the front yard... that isn't an outhouse. It is a phone > booth. Amish aren't allowed to have phones in their houses but there > are ways of getting around that. <vbg> Heh. Lots of people have a work-around for rules that are (to me) overly burdensome. Whatever works, I say. > Nancy is very correct... the Amish are much more connected than most > people would believe. A few years ago, I saw an article about an Amish man who has some food business. His daughters have smart phones. He was fine with it. I'm sure he's one of those with the electrified barn with the computer. Hard to do business without it. nancy |
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On 10/15/2014 9:42 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/15/2014 9:33 AM, Nancy Young wrote: >> Having said that, many Amish are much more connected than I'd >> have thought. > And many have electricity. The do not connect to the grid, but they can > use a gas powered generator and then power tools. They have some nice > shops and often make furniture and garden sheds. The one I bought is > Amish made in PA. They seem to have a good dose of common sense when it comes to making a living. Living by the rules is one thing, work is another. nancy |
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On 10/15/2014 9:45 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/15/2014 9:33 AM, Nancy Young wrote: >> Reminds me of a guy I worked with who, when I told him I have >> a tire inflator, you plug it into your cigarette lighter, said >> So if your battery is dead you can't use. I said If your >> battery is dead, doesn't matter if your tires are flat. > > That's FUNNY!!! (laugh) I thought so, especially as the guy was whip smart. Talk about a brain cramp. nancy |
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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message ... > On 10/15/2014 9:42 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> On 10/15/2014 9:33 AM, Nancy Young wrote: > >>> Having said that, many Amish are much more connected than I'd >>> have thought. > >> And many have electricity. The do not connect to the grid, but they can >> use a gas powered generator and then power tools. They have some nice >> shops and often make furniture and garden sheds. The one I bought is >> Amish made in PA. > > They seem to have a good dose of common sense when it comes > to making a living. Living by the rules is one thing, work > is another. > do any of the Amish work for the government, on any level? |
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On 10/15/2014 11:21 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 10/15/2014 9:45 AM, jmcquown wrote: >> On 10/15/2014 9:33 AM, Nancy Young wrote: > >>> Reminds me of a guy I worked with who, when I told him I have >>> a tire inflator, you plug it into your cigarette lighter, said >>> So if your battery is dead you can't use. I said If your >>> battery is dead, doesn't matter if your tires are flat. >> >> That's FUNNY!!! > > (laugh) I thought so, especially as the guy was whip smart. > Talk about a brain cramp. > > nancy > > Yep, often the smartest people can't think outside the box. When there was a major power outage and the office was closed for a week I knew the generators that ran the computer room and keycard security were hooked up to the same circuits as the breakrooms. There were big ice machines in the breakrooms. So I'd drive over with a small styrofoam cooler and plastic bags to fill up with ice. One morning he was at the back entrance and said the office is closed, why are you here? I said I came to get ice. It was like that V-8 commercial where the person smacks themself on the forehead - why didn't I think of that?! He said he'd been driving from grocery store to grocery store trying to find bags of ice. The answer was right there in front of him. :) Jill |
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On 10/15/2014 11:44 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 10/15/2014 11:21 AM, Nancy Young wrote: >> (laugh) I thought so, especially as the guy was whip smart. >> Talk about a brain cramp. > in the breakrooms. So I'd drive over with a small styrofoam cooler and > plastic bags to fill up with ice. One morning he was at the back > entrance and said the office is closed, why are you here? I said I came > to get ice. > > It was like that V-8 commercial where the person smacks themself on the > forehead - why didn't I think of that?! He said he'd been driving from > grocery store to grocery store trying to find bags of ice. The answer > was right there in front of him. :) Ha. Oh, where can I get ice? I keep looking and looking. And the machine is chugging away right there. nancy |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 09:15:34 -0600, graham > wrote:
>I still give to the main Cancer charity, guilt I suppose, being a so-called >survivor. Last year, I donated and a few weeks later received the >address-label package with a request for more. I lost it when a month >after that I received their calendar and a request for $200. I e-mailed >them and told them to take me off the mailing list. The CEO of the >charity has a salary of around $300k, which is obscene. The highest >salary at the local foodbank, a large organization, is significantly >less than $100k. >Graham Fund raising for charities (and many charities themselves) is an industry in of itself these days and I'm over the endless number of them and their arguably unethical practices. I no longer donate to any of them, instead I put my time and money into the local community where it is needed and can be of direct benefit without lining third party pockets. |
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On 2014-10-15 3:50 PM, Jeßus wrote:
> Fund raising for charities (and many charities themselves) is an > industry in of itself these days and I'm over the endless number of > them and their arguably unethical practices. I no longer donate to any > of them, instead I put my time and money into the local community > where it is needed and can be of direct benefit without lining third > party pockets. I have to confess that I am a little soured on volunteer work too these days. I used to help out at the food and hygiene bank at my wife's church. We buy the food and hygiene products that they give away as well as working at them. A few months ago they decided that everyone who works there has to have a police check. Not only that, but I would have to pay for it. Sorry, but if I am paying to donate products to be handed out for free to the needy, I am not going to be paying to have a police record search done...... to do volunteer work for people who have had way too many encounters with cops??? Nope. Then there was my volunteer work with a charity and I ended up being sued, along with the organization, for $2 million by some low life idiot who was only volunteering to get community service credits for his criminal convictions. AAMOF, I just heard from the lawyer today that the suit has been settled. Due to a confidentiality clause they cannot tell me how much they settled for. The last I had heard before that was at my discovery hearing when my lawyer told his lawyer that if they proceeded to court we would be going after costs. |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:25:38 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote: >On 2014-10-15 3:50 PM, Jeßus wrote: > > >> Fund raising for charities (and many charities themselves) is an >> industry in of itself these days and I'm over the endless number of >> them and their arguably unethical practices. I no longer donate to any >> of them, instead I put my time and money into the local community >> where it is needed and can be of direct benefit without lining third >> party pockets. > > >I have to confess that I am a little soured on volunteer work too these >days. I used to help out at the food and hygiene bank at my wife's >church. We buy the food and hygiene products that they give away as well >as working at them. A few months ago they decided that everyone who >works there has to have a police check. Not only that, but I would have >to pay for it. Sorry, but if I am paying to donate products to be handed >out for free to the needy, I am not going to be paying to have a police >record search done...... to do volunteer work for people who have had >way too many encounters with cops??? Nope. I don't blame you one bit and I know I wouldn't allow myself to be treated that way either. Yet another reason to just go out on your own and help locals in your own community without all the legal and corporate bullshit that goes with organisations these days. Admittedly it's probably a lot easier to go out on your own where I live, as there's less scrutiny and application of the letter of the law gets short shrift, generally. >Then there was my volunteer work with a charity and I ended up being >sued, along with the organization, for $2 million by some low life idiot >who was only volunteering to get community service credits for his >criminal convictions. AAMOF, I just heard from the lawyer today that >the suit has been settled. Due to a confidentiality clause they cannot >tell me how much they settled for. The last I had heard before that was >at my discovery hearing when my lawyer told his lawyer that if they >proceeded to court we would be going after costs. Wonderful... has anyone got any positive anecdotes to donating or volunteering these days? |
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