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Title: Xxcarol's Simply Ducky
Categories: Xxcarol, Duck
Yield: 6 Servings

1 ea Whole dressed Duck, 4lbs
1/3 c Jufran brand banana sauce
1/3 c Thai 'Hot-Sweet' sauce
1/4 c Datu Puti brand soy sauce
1 ea Large white onion, 'sweet'

I've been wanting to cook a Duck since I was in college but my skills
at the start when I moved out from home were not up to that and the
price was beyond college student means. For years though it's been
in the back of my mind as a 'wanna try that'.

About 3 weeks ago in the cooking echo, I saw a lovely recipe and
mentioned that Duck is pretty hard to find here but I kept it in
mind. A week later, one of the rare times when they have Duck at the
commisary occured and I got one. It's a touch over 4 lbs. It sat in
the freezer while we contemplated recipes. My initial intentions
were to put it in the rotisserie with a dry rub but it turned out to
not fit my unit, being about 3 inches too long.

Next I went to plan 'B' which was to line my biggest baking pan with
opened cans as I didnt have a rack to raise it out of the grease with
here and Duck I was told is a very greasy meat. I was all setup to
do it that way when Don went to the exchange and got me a mother's
day gift of a real covered unit (pyrex bottom, metal lifting rack,
metal lid) that just perfectly fit the duck. Yippiee!

After perusing many recipes, we settled on a simple adaption. I
normally try a new food the first time, in a simpler cooking style.
Having not even tasted restraunt Duck in 10 years, I had little
memory so was going on other's experience and what they used. I
decided pre-steaming was probably a good idea but a bit too much for
a first time duck experiment.

Using ideas from many other recipes, we settled on a simple way using
things I have here and didnt have to go out shopping for. The Datu
Puti brand soy sauce is considerably lower-sodium than Kikkoman
and tastes much better. In fact, all their line of sauces are lower
sodium but none are marked 'low sodium'. I've found all of them to
be excellent. I also find all the Jufran brand products to be lower
sodium and extremely tastey, so the 'hot-sweet' sauce here was Jufran
brand as well.

Mix the 3 sauces in a plastic bowl and let sit while washing the duck
out. I set the duck in a suspended strainer that has adjustable sides
and sits at the top of the sink. It seemed 'drying the duck' was
used in almost every recipe so I let it dry for 1 hour.

Once ready, I heated the oven to 425F then slathered the sauce on all
sides and cooked it with the lid on the roaster, for 30 mins 'breast
up'. I cut the onion in 1/2 and stuffed the cavity with that.

I then reduced the heat to 375F and flipped it over, re-saucing it
well on all sides then baking another 30 mins. I raised the temp to
425F and did another 20 mins 'breast up' and re-sauced. At the end,
we took the lid off the roaster, and re-sauced the top (breast) and
let it 'crisp' another 15-20 mins.

The sugars in the sauces made for a lovely dark flavorful skin that
was somewhat crispy at the topside. We let it sit on the top of the
stove to 'set' for about 15 mins then started picking off favored
parts.

Perfection for a family where we all love dark meat <grin> and white
meat gets used mostly in chicken salad. I said 'feeds 6' above as an
estimate but we don't eat that much meat so for us, it would be more
like 10 servings. There's plenty of drippings and fat rendered out
which is currently smothering the leftovers in a sort of 'confit'
type of arrangement. There's a perfect duck carcass in the freezer
awaiting being made into duck soup.

The giblets went into a pot of water with just chinese 5 spice added
and the broth has Don in rapures.

We served it with sticky rice and green beans. The onion got all
eaten up as a side nosh.

From the Sasebo Kitchen of: xxcarol on 14May2007

MMMMM

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On Monday, October 6, 2014 4:41:49 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
> MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
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>
>
> Title: Xxcarol's Simply Ducky
>
> Categories: Xxcarol, Duck
>
> Yield: 6 Servings
>
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What a delightful posting...way to go. Informative, educational and very useful.
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Roy wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Monday, October 6, 2014 4:41:49 PM UTC-6, cshenk wrote:
> > MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
> >
> >
> >
> > Title: Xxcarol's Simply Ducky
> >
> > Categories: Xxcarol, Duck
> >
> > Yield: 6 Servings
> >
> <deletion>
> What a delightful posting...way to go. Informative, educational and
> very useful. ===========

Grin, sorry for the aborted blank one, hit the wrong key.

It seemed too few were posting recipes agian so added in one of mine.

I do not claim to be the best of cooks, but I am a decent one who likes
to discover new foods or new ways of cooking something familiar.

Since that first foray into Duck, we have made it a common household
food, fixing one every 2 months or so.

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On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 18:29:17 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:


>Since that first foray into Duck, we have made it a common household
>food, fixing one every 2 months or so.

Have you tried duck with orange sauce?
It's excellent... if with a home made orange sauce.
Not a bought one - they're too sweet for me.

On 10/7/2014 2:24 AM, wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 18:29:17 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>
>> Since that first foray into Duck, we have made it a common household
>> food, fixing one every 2 months or so.
>
> Have you tried duck with orange sauce?
> It's excellent... if with a home made orange sauce.
> Not a bought one - they're too sweet for me.
>

A little Grand Marnier will perk up the orange sauce.

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On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 07:54:50 -0500, Janet Wilder >
wrote:

>On 10/7/2014 2:24 AM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 18:29:17 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Since that first foray into Duck, we have made it a common household
>>> food, fixing one every 2 months or so.
>>
>> Have you tried duck with orange sauce?
>> It's excellent... if with a home made orange sauce.
>> Not a bought one - they're too sweet for me.
>>
>
>A little Grand Marnier will perk up the orange sauce.

Ooh, it most certainly would.

Je_us wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 18:29:17 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>
> > Since that first foray into Duck, we have made it a common household
> > food, fixing one every 2 months or so.
>
> Have you tried duck with orange sauce?
> It's excellent... if with a home made orange sauce.
> Not a bought one - they're too sweet for me.

Doesnt appeal to us really. Somehow, orange and meat never matched for
us. I know it's a classic though. I'm more into savory/spicy than
sweet. Good try though and well apreciated!

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On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 19:30:26 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Je_us wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 18:29:17 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Since that first foray into Duck, we have made it a common household
>> > food, fixing one every 2 months or so.
>>
>> Have you tried duck with orange sauce?
>> It's excellent... if with a home made orange sauce.
>> Not a bought one - they're too sweet for me.
>
>Doesnt appeal to us really. Somehow, orange and meat never matched for
>us. I know it's a classic though. I'm more into savory/spicy than
>sweet. Good try though and well apreciated!

My method probably wouldn't appeal to most people - all I do is juice
some oranges and carefully reduce it - That's my orange sauce and I
love it like that But yes, aside from perhaps chicken, I wouldn't
want orange sauce with any other meat.

On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:41:49 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>
> MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
>
> Title: Xxcarol's Simply Ducky
> Categories: Xxcarol, Duck
> Yield: 6 Servings
>
> 1 ea Whole dressed Duck, 4lbs
> 1/3 c Jufran brand banana sauce
> 1/3 c Thai 'Hot-Sweet' sauce
> 1/4 c Datu Puti brand soy sauce
> 1 ea Large white onion, 'sweet'
>
> I've been wanting to cook a Duck since I was in college but my skills
> at the start when I moved out from home were not up to that and the
> price was beyond college student means. For years though it's been
> in the back of my mind as a 'wanna try that'.
>
<snip>
>
> Perfection for a family where we all love dark meat <grin> and white
> meat gets used mostly in chicken salad. I said 'feeds 6' above as an
> estimate but we don't eat that much meat so for us, it would be more
> like 10 servings. There's plenty of drippings and fat rendered out
> which is currently smothering the leftovers in a sort of 'confit'
> type of arrangement. There's a perfect duck carcass in the freezer
> awaiting being made into duck soup.
>
> The giblets went into a pot of water with just chinese 5 spice added
> and the broth has Don in rapures.
>
> We served it with sticky rice and green beans. The onion got all
> eaten up as a side nosh.
>
So glad it worked out for you, is your oven a mess or did you manage
to keep the grease splattering down somehow?

One of these days, I will buy a frozen duck to cook. I plan to break
down the carcass into breasts and saute them to med. rare (my favorite
way for duck) for dinner and confit the leg/thigh joints. I'll render
the skin I take off the various parts to use for the confit and make
duck stock with everything else, but have no idea what I'd do with it.


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sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:41:49 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> >
> > MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
> >
> > Title: Xxcarol's Simply Ducky
> > Categories: Xxcarol, Duck
> > Yield: 6 Servings
> >
> > 1 ea Whole dressed Duck, 4lbs
> > 1/3 c Jufran brand banana sauce
> > 1/3 c Thai 'Hot-Sweet' sauce
> > 1/4 c Datu Puti brand soy sauce
> > 1 ea Large white onion, 'sweet'
> >
> > I've been wanting to cook a Duck since I was in college but my
> > skills at the start when I moved out from home were not up to
> > that and the price was beyond college student means. For years
> > though it's been in the back of my mind as a 'wanna try that'.
> >
> <snip>
> >
> > Perfection for a family where we all love dark meat <grin> and
> > white meat gets used mostly in chicken salad. I said 'feeds 6'
> > above as an estimate but we don't eat that much meat so for us,
> > it would be more like 10 servings. There's plenty of drippings
> > and fat rendered out which is currently smothering the leftovers
> > in a sort of 'confit' type of arrangement. There's a perfect
> > duck carcass in the freezer awaiting being made into duck soup.
> >
> > The giblets went into a pot of water with just chinese 5 spice
> > added and the broth has Don in rapures.
> >
> > We served it with sticky rice and green beans. The onion got all
> > eaten up as a side nosh.
> >
> So glad it worked out for you, is your oven a mess or did you manage
> to keep the grease splattering down somehow?
>
> One of these days, I will buy a frozen duck to cook. I plan to break
> down the carcass into breasts and saute them to med. rare (my favorite
> way for duck) for dinner and confit the leg/thigh joints. I'll render
> the skin I take off the various parts to use for the confit and make
> duck stock with everything else, but have no idea what I'd do with it.

Oh duck stock goes well in just about anyplace you'd use chicken stock.
Defat it first and it works fune!

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On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 19:33:12 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:


>Oh duck stock goes well in just about anyplace you'd use chicken stock.
>Defat it first and it works fune!

Indeed it does and IMO much better than chicken stock. I made a very
large batch of duck stock about 3 years ago, portioned it out and
froze it. I ran out about 5 months ago and my soups haven't been quite
the same ever since. I must make some more soon.

sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:41:49 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> >
> > MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
> >
> > Title: Xxcarol's Simply Ducky
> > Categories: Xxcarol, Duck
> > Yield: 6 Servings
> >
> > 1 ea Whole dressed Duck, 4lbs
> > 1/3 c Jufran brand banana sauce
> > 1/3 c Thai 'Hot-Sweet' sauce
> > 1/4 c Datu Puti brand soy sauce
> > 1 ea Large white onion, 'sweet'
> >
> > I've been wanting to cook a Duck since I was in college but my
> > skills at the start when I moved out from home were not up to
> > that and the price was beyond college student means. For years
> > though it's been in the back of my mind as a 'wanna try that'.
> >
> <snip>
> >
> > Perfection for a family where we all love dark meat <grin> and
> > white meat gets used mostly in chicken salad. I said 'feeds 6'
> > above as an estimate but we don't eat that much meat so for us,
> > it would be more like 10 servings. There's plenty of drippings
> > and fat rendered out which is currently smothering the leftovers
> > in a sort of 'confit' type of arrangement. There's a perfect
> > duck carcass in the freezer awaiting being made into duck soup.
> >
> > The giblets went into a pot of water with just chinese 5 spice
> > added and the broth has Don in rapures.
> >
> > We served it with sticky rice and green beans. The onion got all
> > eaten up as a side nosh.
> >
> So glad it worked out for you, is your oven a mess or did you manage
> to keep the grease splattering down somehow?
>
> One of these days, I will buy a frozen duck to cook. I plan to break
> down the carcass into breasts and saute them to med. rare (my favorite
> way for duck) for dinner and confit the leg/thigh joints. I'll render
> the skin I take off the various parts to use for the confit and make
> duck stock with everything else, but have no idea what I'd do with it.

Hi, had it in a covered pan so no oven splatter.

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On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 20:01:57 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

> sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:41:49 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
> >
> > > 1 ea Whole dressed Duck, 4lbs
> > >
> > So glad it worked out for you, is your oven a mess or did you manage
> > to keep the grease splattering down somehow?
> >
>
> Hi, had it in a covered pan so no oven splatter.

Good thinking! I've never figured out what possible use a "covered
oven roaster" could serve and you finally told me. )


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On Thursday, October 9, 2014 5:23:30 AM UTC+1, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 20:01:57 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:41:49 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

1 ea Whole dressed Duck, 4lbs
-

So glad it worked out for you, is your oven a mess or did you manage to keep the grease splattering down somehow?
-

Hi, had it in a covered pan so no oven splatter.
-

Good thinking! I've never figured out what possible use a "covered oven roaster" could serve and you finally told me. )
-

I've got a roaster similar to this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Swan-Vitreous-Enamel-Basting Roaster/dp/B00901ABJU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412829716&sr=8-1&keywords=self+basting+roaster

The fat spatters to the top and rolls down the dimples and drops back onto the meat, thereby making the meat self basting.

Cherry

On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 21:50:20 -0700 (PDT), Cherry >
wrote:

> I've got a roaster similar to this:
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Swan-Vitreous-Enamel-Basting Roaster/dp/B00901ABJU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412829716&sr=8-1&keywords=self+basting+roaster
>
> The fat spatters to the top and rolls down the dimples and drops back onto the meat, thereby making the meat self basting.

Thanks, I'm well aware of the vessel but clueless about how it is put
to use. Please tell me what else you cook it - this is one of those
things that my family never owned. My mother didn't use one and
neither did either of my grandmothers, so I have zero experience with
it. I used a Romertopf clay baker for several years (it's still
around here somewhere), but that's as close as I've ever come to a
covered roaster. When I oven braise, I use my Dutch oven.


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On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:41:49 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
>
> Title: Xxcarol's Simply Ducky
> Categories: Xxcarol, Duck
> Yield: 6 Servings
>
> 1 ea Whole dressed Duck, 4lbs
> 1/3 c Jufran brand banana sauce
> 1/3 c Thai 'Hot-Sweet' sauce
> 1/4 c Datu Puti brand soy sauce
> 1 ea Large white onion, 'sweet'
>
> I've been wanting to cook a Duck since I was in college but my skills
> at the start when I moved out from home were not up to that and the
> price was beyond college student means. For years though it's been
> in the back of my mind as a 'wanna try that'.

If you can cook chicken and turkey, you can cook duck.

<snip details>

> From the Sasebo Kitchen of: xxcarol on 14May2007
>
>MMMMM

mmm indeed Duck is one of my favouritest things.
Your recipe is very interesting, but I don't like my chances of
finding banana sauce here. It sounds fantastic.

Je_us wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:41:49 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
> >
> > Title: Xxcarol's Simply Ducky
> > Categories: Xxcarol, Duck
> > Yield: 6 Servings
> >
> > 1 ea Whole dressed Duck, 4lbs
> > 1/3 c Jufran brand banana sauce
> > 1/3 c Thai 'Hot-Sweet' sauce
> > 1/4 c Datu Puti brand soy sauce
> > 1 ea Large white onion, 'sweet'
> >
> > I've been wanting to cook a Duck since I was in college but my
> > skills at the start when I moved out from home were not up to that
> > and the price was beyond college student means. For years though
> > it's been in the back of my mind as a 'wanna try that'.
>
> If you can cook chicken and turkey, you can cook duck.
>
> <snip details>
>
> > From the Sasebo Kitchen of: xxcarol on 14May2007
> >
> > MMMMM
>
> mmm indeed Duck is one of my favouritest things.
> Your recipe is very interesting, but I don't like my chances of
> finding banana sauce here. It sounds fantastic.

You might be suprized! Most Asian markets have it and it's slipping
into the common markets. It doesnt taste like Banana BTW and looks
like tomato kethup. Real thick. Not sweet but caremilizes very wewll
on the skin.

Carol



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On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 19:42:32 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Je_us wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:41:49 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>
>> > MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
>> >
>> > Title: Xxcarol's Simply Ducky
>> > Categories: Xxcarol, Duck
>> > Yield: 6 Servings
>> >
>> > 1 ea Whole dressed Duck, 4lbs
>> > 1/3 c Jufran brand banana sauce
>> > 1/3 c Thai 'Hot-Sweet' sauce
>> > 1/4 c Datu Puti brand soy sauce
>> > 1 ea Large white onion, 'sweet'
>> >
>> > I've been wanting to cook a Duck since I was in college but my
>> > skills at the start when I moved out from home were not up to that
>> > and the price was beyond college student means. For years though
>> > it's been in the back of my mind as a 'wanna try that'.
>>
>> If you can cook chicken and turkey, you can cook duck.
>>
>> <snip details>
>>
>> > From the Sasebo Kitchen of: xxcarol on 14May2007
>> >
>> > MMMMM
>>
>> mmm indeed Duck is one of my favouritest things.
>> Your recipe is very interesting, but I don't like my chances of
>> finding banana sauce here. It sounds fantastic.
>
>You might be suprized! Most Asian markets have it and it's slipping
>into the common markets. It doesnt taste like Banana BTW and looks
>like tomato kethup. Real thick. Not sweet but caremilizes very wewll
>on the skin.
>
> Carol

Thanks for that Carol, we do have an Asian store in Launceston and I
will check there the next time I head in. I shouldn't assume it isn't
available, when I haven't even looked!