Note that I do not have the same waste removal people that Seattle proper
does. And while they are already supposed to compost, I saw on the news
last night that they are fixing to really crack down and implement fines for
not doing so. The fine for a home owner was a measly $1 which likely
wouldn't affect much but it would be $50 for a business owner.

As you can imagine, this could present a problem for places where the
customer is expected to get rid of their waste. Taco Time has been using
compostable things for a very long time, but not everything is. For some
reason, the spoons are not but the knives and forks are. And if you dine
in, many of their items (even though they are fast food) come on a platter
that is washed and reused.

They have what appears to be trash bins but are really for compostable
things. Then they have tiny trash cans for actual trash. I have one of
that size that I use for tiny things like the caps to my needles and my
clipped needles and such.

However, it is up to the customer to do the right thing and some won't.
This will force some employee at the business to sort through all waste.
And probably put locks on their dumpsters.

http://earthfix.opb.org/communities/...rbside-compos/

I have been trying to crack down in my own home. I found eggshells in the
trash today. And sometimes I find other food there. And I am guilty on
occasion when it is something overly wet. The minute you put really wet
foods in a Biobag, the bag just sort of melts. Guess I will have to work on
that. For stuff like soup, I drain the liquid into the sink, then run the
rest outside right away. I am also trying to work hard on portion size.
Two extra bites of something that didn't get eaten is now an expensive PITA
to dispose of.

On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:47:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

> http://earthfix.opb.org/communities/...rbside-compos/
>
> I have been trying to crack down in my own home. I found eggshells in the
> trash today. And sometimes I find other food there. And I am guilty on
> occasion when it is something overly wet. The minute you put really wet
> foods in a Biobag, the bag just sort of melts. Guess I will have to work on
> that. For stuff like soup, I drain the liquid into the sink, then run the
> rest outside right away. I am also trying to work hard on portion size.
> Two extra bites of something that didn't get eaten is now an expensive PITA
> to dispose of.

I have a garbage disposal. I don't have the room to keep 4 garbage
bins out of sight, so I only use garbage and recycling. I put most of
the compostables down the garbage disposal and the rest goes into the
garbage. I don't generate a lot of waste, so I don't feel guilty.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:47:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> http://earthfix.opb.org/communities/...rbside-compos/
>>
>> I have been trying to crack down in my own home. I found eggshells in
>> the
>> trash today. And sometimes I find other food there. And I am guilty on
>> occasion when it is something overly wet. The minute you put really wet
>> foods in a Biobag, the bag just sort of melts. Guess I will have to work
>> on
>> that. For stuff like soup, I drain the liquid into the sink, then run
>> the
>> rest outside right away. I am also trying to work hard on portion size.
>> Two extra bites of something that didn't get eaten is now an expensive
>> PITA
>> to dispose of.
>
> I have a garbage disposal. I don't have the room to keep 4 garbage
> bins out of sight, so I only use garbage and recycling. I put most of
> the compostables down the garbage disposal and the rest goes into the
> garbage. I don't generate a lot of waste, so I don't feel guilty.

We are not supposed to use the garbage disposal as they tell us it pollutes
the water. I'm not going to say that I don't use it once in a while but for
the most part I try not to.

In article >,
"Julie Bove" > wrote:

> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:47:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> http://earthfix.opb.org/communities/...-fines-to-enfo
> >> rce-curbside-compos/
> >>
> >> I have been trying to crack down in my own home. I found eggshells in
> >> the
> >> trash today. And sometimes I find other food there. And I am guilty on
> >> occasion when it is something overly wet. The minute you put really wet
> >> foods in a Biobag, the bag just sort of melts. Guess I will have to work
> >> on
> >> that. For stuff like soup, I drain the liquid into the sink, then run
> >> the
> >> rest outside right away. I am also trying to work hard on portion size.
> >> Two extra bites of something that didn't get eaten is now an expensive
> >> PITA
> >> to dispose of.
> >
> > I have a garbage disposal. I don't have the room to keep 4 garbage
> > bins out of sight, so I only use garbage and recycling. I put most of
> > the compostables down the garbage disposal and the rest goes into the
> > garbage. I don't generate a lot of waste, so I don't feel guilty.
>
> We are not supposed to use the garbage disposal as they tell us it pollutes
> the water. I'm not going to say that I don't use it once in a while but for
> the most part I try not to.

of course it pollutes the water, but the same pipes carry all the
bathroom turds and it doesn't pollute...you believe way too much idiocy

On 9/9/2014 10:02 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:47:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>> http://earthfix.opb.org/communities/...rbside-compos/
>>
>> I have been trying to crack down in my own home. I found eggshells in the
>> trash today. And sometimes I find other food there. And I am guilty on
>> occasion when it is something overly wet. The minute you put really wet
>> foods in a Biobag, the bag just sort of melts. Guess I will have to work on
>> that. For stuff like soup, I drain the liquid into the sink, then run the
>> rest outside right away. I am also trying to work hard on portion size.
>> Two extra bites of something that didn't get eaten is now an expensive PITA
>> to dispose of.
>
> I have a garbage disposal. I don't have the room to keep 4 garbage
> bins out of sight, so I only use garbage and recycling. I put most of
> the compostables down the garbage disposal and the rest goes into the
> garbage. I don't generate a lot of waste, so I don't feel guilty.
>
>

Where I live, we have to separate our trash into three bins: recyclable,
compostable garden waste, and other. No, we are NOT to put kitchen
waste into the compostable bin, just garden waste; and that is the
largest bin. The county has a composting project from which the result
is available.

We do have and use a garbage disposer in our kitchen sink. All waste
water from the area -- straddling two counties -- goes to a water
reclamation plant. The processed liquid output -- filtered and
disinfected -- is sold for use on golf courses, parks, greenbelts, and
school playfields; the price is less than for potable water and allows
large landscaped areas to remain irrigated during a drought. The
processed solid output is "digested" (sort of a fermenting process) and
composted; it is available free to anyone who wants to get it. Note
that the reclaimed water contains too many minerals for use as drinking
water, and the compost is NOT approved for use on edibles.

My own compost is strictly garden waste, primarily autumn leaves. Thus
it is almost entirely leaf mold. I have the ornamental grass in back
mowed about once a year and add only some of the grass clippings. I
have my trees trimmed every third year and add a little of the wood chips.

--
David E. Ross

Visit "Cooking with David" at
<http://www.rossde.com/cooking/>

"David E. Ross" > wrote in message
...

> Where I live, we have to separate our trash into three bins: recyclable,
> compostable garden waste, and other. No, we are NOT to put kitchen
> waste into the compostable bin, just garden waste; and that is the
> largest bin. The county has a composting project from which the result
> is available.

We have three as well. One for garbage, one for recycles and one for yard
trimmings, leaves etc. We save all the compostables for the worms and flower
beds, and recycle everything that is possible to recycle, so we have very
little actual garbage for the bin. We requested the smallest bin a few
months ago, which is cheaper, and we still don't come near filling it.

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
>
> "David E. Ross" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Where I live, we have to separate our trash into three bins: recyclable,
>> compostable garden waste, and other. No, we are NOT to put kitchen
>> waste into the compostable bin, just garden waste; and that is the
>> largest bin. The county has a composting project from which the result
>> is available.
>
> We have three as well. One for garbage, one for recycles and one for yard
> trimmings, leaves etc. We save all the compostables for the worms and
> flower beds, and recycle everything that is possible to recycle, so we
> have very little actual garbage for the bin. We requested the smallest bin
> a few months ago, which is cheaper, and we still don't come near filling
> it.

We always have too much recycling. I wish we could get either two bins or
weekly pickup. Most people have weekly pickup now. Oddly enough they do
weekly yard waste pickup now but not recycling. Our trash can is slightly
smaller than the other two bins. I tried the small one which they said
would be big enough for two. Husband wasn't living here then. It wasn't
big enough. So I got the bigger one. I still have weeks when I have to use
an extra can. Such as if we have to get rid of a broken computer chair or
some such thing. Not all of the pieces will fit but seeing as how we no
longer have a van, the more of whatever it is that I can get out in the
trash, the better. I went with one of the trash people's cans after having
ours stolen, destroyed and found in the neighbor's yard. Brand new can too!
The trash people were on strike that week.

On 9/10/2014 6:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>


>
> We always have too much recycling. I wish we could get either two bins
> or weekly pickup.

Have you asked? We just have to go to the town hall and they will give
you one.

On 9/10/2014 10:47 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

> We do have and use a garbage disposer in our kitchen sink. All waste
> water from the area -- straddling two counties -- goes to a water
> reclamation plant. The processed liquid output -- filtered and
> disinfected -- is sold for use on golf courses, parks, greenbelts, and
> school playfields;

Awesome.

> My own compost is strictly garden waste, primarily autumn leaves. Thus
> it is almost entirely leaf mold. I have the ornamental grass in back
> mowed about once a year and add only some of the grass clippings. I
> have my trees trimmed every third year and add a little of the wood chips.

I used to make my compost from leaves only (carbon) but now I
add the nitrogen with vegetable scraps/coffee grounds, etc.

nancy

On 9/10/2014 6:18 AM, wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 22:02:47 -0700, sf > wrote:
>

>>
>> I have a garbage disposal. I don't have the room to keep 4 garbage
>> bins out of sight, so I only use garbage and recycling. I put most of
>> the compostables down the garbage disposal and the rest goes into the
>> garbage. I don't generate a lot of waste, so I don't feel guilty.
>
> Where does the water go ? Does it get treated ?
>


Most places it goes tot he town sewage department where it gets treated.
There s a cost to that as part of your water bill too.

Composting is always preferred as it does not use water, chemicals, clog
pipes, add cost, etc. If you have a yard with lawn and garden, it is
nutrient rich so you don't have to buy fertilizer to get good results.

On 2014-09-10 7:49 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> Most places it goes tot he town sewage department where it gets treated.
> There s a cost to that as part of your water bill too.
>
> Composting is always preferred as it does not use water, chemicals, clog
> pipes, add cost, etc. If you have a yard with lawn and garden, it is
> nutrient rich so you don't have to buy fertilizer to get good results.



We have been recycling and composting here for years. We have a compost
pail on the kitchen counter and that gets emptied into the compost bin
in the bag yard or into the green bin. Bones go into the green bin.
Paper and cardboard go into the grey bin and plastics, styrofoam, glass
and metal go into the blue bin. The rest goes into a garbage bag. It
sure does cut down on what goes into the garbage and to the landfill site.

On 9/10/2014 8:16 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2014-09-10 7:49 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> Composting is always preferred as it does not use water, chemicals, clog
>> pipes, add cost, etc. If you have a yard with lawn and garden, it is
>> nutrient rich so you don't have to buy fertilizer to get good results.


> We have been recycling and composting here for years. We have a compost
> pail on the kitchen counter and that gets emptied into the compost bin
> in the bag yard or into the green bin. Bones go into the green bin.
> Paper and cardboard go into the grey bin and plastics, styrofoam, glass
> and metal go into the blue bin. The rest goes into a garbage bag. It
> sure does cut down on what goes into the garbage and to the landfill site.

Recycling most of that has been mandatory where I live for years
now, but composting is left to the individual. Of course I have
a pile where kitchen and yard waste go.

Parts of NYC have a compost program, they pick it up. Now that's
a big project.

nancy

On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 07:18:01 -0300, wrote:

> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 22:02:47 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 19:47:05 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
> >
> >> http://earthfix.opb.org/communities/...rbside-compos/
> >>
> >> I have been trying to crack down in my own home. I found eggshells in the
> >> trash today. And sometimes I find other food there. And I am guilty on
> >> occasion when it is something overly wet. The minute you put really wet
> >> foods in a Biobag, the bag just sort of melts. Guess I will have to work on
> >> that. For stuff like soup, I drain the liquid into the sink, then run the
> >> rest outside right away. I am also trying to work hard on portion size.
> >> Two extra bites of something that didn't get eaten is now an expensive PITA
> >> to dispose of.
> >
> >I have a garbage disposal. I don't have the room to keep 4 garbage
> >bins out of sight, so I only use garbage and recycling. I put most of
> >the compostables down the garbage disposal and the rest goes into the
> >garbage. I don't generate a lot of waste, so I don't feel guilty.
>
> Where does the water go ? Does it get treated ?

Yes, there are two water treatment plants.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On 9/11/2014 7:49 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> She sure did milk that lie for all it was worth. At RFC's expense,
> and to her satisfaction, of course.


Give it a rest Yappy, haven't you stalked enough women for one week?

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> Nobody has called Julie on the fact that she has already insisted
> several times that composting is already mandatory for her. Or so she
> said when she wanted something to whine about.

Why would they call me on it? I don't live in Seattle. The article I
posted was for Seattle.
>
> She first lied about it during the infamous, "Less messay way to cut
> melons" thread. And she has claimed composting was mandatory several
> times since then. In fact, it was the basis for at least a half dozen
> complaints of hers.

Right. Here. In unincorported Snohomish County. Most of Bothell is in
King County. I really don't know the specifics of what they do there
because I don't live there. But I do know that they get weekly recycle
pickup and we don't. Seattle is in King County. My friend lives in
Shoreline which is in King County but is not Seattle. She has to use the
Biobags just as I do. My brother lives in another city in Snohomish County.
His trash rules are not necessarily the same as mine. My friend and I had
the same waste company at one point and now she has another. My brother has
another. Apples and oranges. Ha! Food related! Recyle your cores and
peels!
>
> She sure did milk that lie for all it was worth. At RFC's expense,
> and to her satisfaction, of course.

No. Seattle is a rather large city. Perhaps not as large as some. But
perhaps this will have an impact elsewhere!
>
> ObFood: Pittsburgh BBQ ham sandwiches for dinner.

Our town does not provide trash pickup, so we have to make a "dump run" every week. Paper, glass, plastics, etc. are tossed together and the rest gets thrown in a separate area. We have three compost bins in our yard (3 acres) and they provide some really nice soil additive. I keep a bowl on the counter for the daily scraps and it gets emptied outside every night. The garbage disposal only gets used for the little dregs left on the bottom of the sink after washing up.

Denise in NH

On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:26:16 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> Our town does not provide trash pickup, so we have to make a "dump run" every week.

So, how do they keep the lazies from just tossing stuff in the woods etc? Until ppl are forced to recycle thru a curbside system, some will never comply.

And what do the infirm, or carless ppl do? Pay extra for hauling?

I'd love to see mandatory recycling take effect everywhere, but I know it's a slow and expensive transition.

Kalmia, our town doesn't provide trash pick for anyone. If you are infirm, don't own a truck, etc. you hire a trash service. We don't seem to have a lot of random trash dumping in the woods, but anyone caught doing it would be fined.

Denise in NH

On 9/10/2014 1:24 PM, wrote:
> Kalmia, our town doesn't provide trash pick for anyone. If you are infirm, don't own a truck, etc. you hire a trash service. We don't seem to have a lot of random trash dumping in the woods, but anyone caught doing it would be fined.
>
> Denise in NH
>
I have to hire my own trash pickup service. Even when I lived in
apartments when I lived in TN, I paid for it. It was added onto my rent.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 9/10/2014 1:24 PM, wrote:
>> Kalmia, our town doesn't provide trash pick for anyone. If you are
>> infirm, don't own a truck, etc. you hire a trash service. We don't seem
>> to have a lot of random trash dumping in the woods, but anyone caught
>> doing it would be fined.
>>
>> Denise in NH
>>
> I have to hire my own trash pickup service. Even when I lived in
> apartments when I lived in TN, I paid for it. It was added onto my rent.


Wow! Here if you live in an apartment, there is one or more big dumpsters
for you to use for free.

sockmonkeyNH wrote:
>
> Kalmia, our town doesn't provide trash pick for anyone.
If you are infirm, don't own a truck, etc. you hire a trash service.
We don't seem to have a lot of random trash dumping in the woods, but
anyone caught doing it would be fined.

By one method or another everyone pays for trash pick up... you either
pay for private pick up directly or indirectly, big cities have their
own municiple trash pick up, the cost is in the property taxes, if
you're a renter the cost is computed as part of the rent. In this
rural area people were not too long ago permitted to burn their trash,
most everyone had a 55 gallon drum as a burn barrel, but as of some
five years ago burning trash became illegal, it pollutes and often
starts forest fires. Now if they catch someone burning most anything
the fines are very steep, 1st offence is $15,000.00... 2nd offence is
$30,000.00 and a year in prison. It won't be much longer before
burning wood, coal, and pellets for home heating will be outlawed.
http://www.dec.ny.gov/chemical/58519.html

On 9/10/2014 10:35 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:26:16 AM UTC-4, wrote:
>> Our town does not provide trash pickup, so we have to make a "dump run" every week.
>
> So, how do they keep the lazies from just tossing stuff in the woods etc? Until ppl are forced to recycle thru a curbside system, some will never comply.
>
> And what do the infirm, or carless ppl do? Pay extra for hauling?
>
> I'd love to see mandatory recycling take effect everywhere, but I know it's a slow and expensive transition.
>

In our town, it used to be a dump run or contract with a private hauler.
I was paying $5 a month 30 years ago.

The landfill closed and became an ash landfill so the town has a
contractor to pick up trash. We have a recycle bin (they take that
free) and buy $1 stickers to put on bags.

I take the trash to work and use the dumpster since we never fill it and
we pay a fixed rate for weekly pickup.

On 2014-09-10 10:35 AM, Kalmia wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:26:16 AM UTC-4,
> wrote:
>> Our town does not provide trash pickup, so we have to make a "dump
>> run" every week.
>
> So, how do they keep the lazies from just tossing stuff in the woods
> etc? Until ppl are forced to recycle thru a curbside system, some
> will never comply.
>


A few years back they put a one bag per household limit on garbage and
you have to buy special tags for a buck apiece for excess. It didn't
take long before the low lifes started dumping them along the rural
roads around here. Someone tossed on into the ditch in front of our
house. Lucky for me it was a clear plastic bag and I saw the mail
envelopes inside and their address was in a couple of them. I was going
into town that night for something so I took their garbage and tossed it
back onto their lawn where it belong.




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