On 9/5/2014 5:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>


> I have actually cooked them. Not often. I can't eat oats. My point
> was that most parents do don't fix breakfast for their kids. At least
> not on school days. They often have to get out the door to work and the
> kids are left to their own devices or have to eat something on the way
> to school. 30 minutes or 5 minutes, doesn't matter. The parents don't
> do it.

Today there are a lot of options that did not exist when our kids were
in school. Frozen waffles, frozen sandwiches and the like. No excuse
for parents not to give kids a decent breakfast.

We always had a good home made breakfast, but none took 30 minutes to
cook.
Two days I make my own breakfast during the week at 5:30. On weekends I
make extra bacon or sausage and put it in the freezer for future use. In
the morning, it takes 30 seconds in the microwave, peel an egg hard
boiled previously and a piece of toast. Decent meal in about five
minutes or less.

The other two days I have breakfast at work with one of my colleagues.
Tuesdays is Ray's Onion Bagels, Thursday is a sandwich from either McD
or Panera Bread.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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> On 9/5/2014 5:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>
>> I have actually cooked them. Not often. I can't eat oats. My point
>> was that most parents do don't fix breakfast for their kids. At least
>> not on school days. They often have to get out the door to work and the
>> kids are left to their own devices or have to eat something on the way
>> to school. 30 minutes or 5 minutes, doesn't matter. The parents don't
>> do it.
>
> Today there are a lot of options that did not exist when our kids were in
> school. Frozen waffles, frozen sandwiches and the like. No excuse for
> parents not to give kids a decent breakfast.

Where I am the schools provide free breakfasts to all students at this time.
Don't know how long it will last since it was going on last year too, or if
it's available for all of CA, but it is here.

Cheri

"Cheri" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 9/5/2014 5:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>
>>
>>> I have actually cooked them. Not often. I can't eat oats. My point
>>> was that most parents do don't fix breakfast for their kids. At least
>>> not on school days. They often have to get out the door to work and the
>>> kids are left to their own devices or have to eat something on the way
>>> to school. 30 minutes or 5 minutes, doesn't matter. The parents don't
>>> do it.
>>
>> Today there are a lot of options that did not exist when our kids were in
>> school. Frozen waffles, frozen sandwiches and the like. No excuse for
>> parents not to give kids a decent breakfast.
>
> Where I am the schools provide free breakfasts to all students at this
> time. Don't know how long it will last since it was going on last year
> too, or if it's available for all of CA, but it is here.

It was that way in NY too. I don't think that's the case here. Not sure if
they can buy if they want to. But it is free to low income.

On 9/6/2014 2:06 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
>
> Where I am the schools provide free breakfasts to all students at this
> time. Don't know how long it will last since it was going on last year
> too, or if it's available for all of CA, but it is here.
>
> Cheri

It will last as long as YOU pay taxes for it.

On Sat, 06 Sep 2014 09:16:01 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 9/6/2014 2:06 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>>
>> Where I am the schools provide free breakfasts to all students at this
>> time. Don't know how long it will last since it was going on last year
>> too, or if it's available for all of CA, but it is here.
>>
>> Cheri
>
>It will last as long as YOU pay taxes for it.

And vote to support it.
Janet US

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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> On 9/6/2014 2:06 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>>
>> Where I am the schools provide free breakfasts to all students at this
>> time. Don't know how long it will last since it was going on last year
>> too, or if it's available for all of CA, but it is here.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> It will last as long as YOU pay taxes for it.

I don't mind.

Cheri

On 2014-09-06 11:48 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 9/6/2014 2:06 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Where I am the schools provide free breakfasts to all students at this
>>> time. Don't know how long it will last since it was going on last year
>>> too, or if it's available for all of CA, but it is here.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> It will last as long as YOU pay taxes for it.
>
> I don't mind.
>


If you don't mind paying higher taxes to feed someone else's kids then
perhaps you would not mind paying an even higher tax levy to cover those
us who resent being expected to pay for them as well as our own kids. I
really don't think it is too much to expect people to give their kids a
proper meal before sending them off to school. In many cases it may been
having to get up off their lazy asses to prepare the meals, or to divert
money from their cigarette and booze budget to buy food.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
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> On 2014-09-06 11:48 AM, Cheri wrote:
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>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 9/6/2014 2:06 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where I am the schools provide free breakfasts to all students at this
>>>> time. Don't know how long it will last since it was going on last year
>>>> too, or if it's available for all of CA, but it is here.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> It will last as long as YOU pay taxes for it.
>>
>> I don't mind.
>>
>
>
> If you don't mind paying higher taxes to feed someone else's kids then
> perhaps you would not mind paying an even higher tax levy to cover those
> us who resent being expected to pay for them as well as our own kids. I
> really don't think it is too much to expect people to give their kids a
> proper meal before sending them off to school. In many cases it may been
> having to get up off their lazy asses to prepare the meals, or to divert
> money from their cigarette and booze budget to buy food.

I wasn't aware that you were paying the taxes in CA. but I'd just as soon
see ALL kids get a free breakfast and if YOUR kid is getting a free
breakfast too, you're not paying extra for something you're not receiving.

Cheri

On Sat, 06 Sep 2014 11:59:34 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2014-09-06 11:48 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 9/6/2014 2:06 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where I am the schools provide free breakfasts to all students at this
>>>> time. Don't know how long it will last since it was going on last year
>>>> too, or if it's available for all of CA, but it is here.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> It will last as long as YOU pay taxes for it.
>>
>> I don't mind.
>>
>
>
>If you don't mind paying higher taxes to feed someone else's kids then
>perhaps you would not mind paying an even higher tax levy to cover those
>us who resent being expected to pay for them as well as our own kids. I
>really don't think it is too much to expect people to give their kids a
>proper meal before sending them off to school. In many cases it may been
>having to get up off their lazy asses to prepare the meals, or to divert
>money from their cigarette and booze budget to buy food.

stereotype much?
Janet US

On 2014-09-06 2:05 PM, wrote:

>>
>> If you don't mind paying higher taxes to feed someone else's kids then
>> perhaps you would not mind paying an even higher tax levy to cover those
>> us who resent being expected to pay for them as well as our own kids. I
>> really don't think it is too much to expect people to give their kids a
>> proper meal before sending them off to school. In many cases it may been
>> having to get up off their lazy asses to prepare the meals, or to divert
>> money from their cigarette and booze budget to buy food.
>
> It is probably reaching kids who have parents below the poverty line.
> Either way, at least a kid gets a meal, can't be much wrong with that!
>

There is nothing wrong with a kid getting a meal. It's just that I don't
think it is the school's responsibility. Cheri reported that all the
kids in her area get the free <?> breakfast. I guess that removes the
stigma from being one of the needy ones. I might question the need to
remove the stigma. Maybe there needs to be a stigma so that those you
need to be fed might aspire to better rather than expecting the school
to feed them. Hopefully, they will graduate and get a job. I don't know
many jobs where the company provides breakfast.

On 9/6/2014 11:48 AM, Cheri wrote:
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 9/6/2014 2:06 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Where I am the schools provide free breakfasts to all students at this
>>> time. Don't know how long it will last since it was going on last year
>>> too, or if it's available for all of CA, but it is here.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> It will last as long as YOU pay taxes for it.
>
> I don't mind.
>
> Cheri

I don't mind for the poor kids, but it is not easy to separate them from
a parent that is just too lazy and now has reason not to make breakfast.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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> On 9/6/2014 11:48 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 9/6/2014 2:06 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where I am the schools provide free breakfasts to all students at this
>>>> time. Don't know how long it will last since it was going on last year
>>>> too, or if it's available for all of CA, but it is here.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> It will last as long as YOU pay taxes for it.
>>
>> I don't mind.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I don't mind for the poor kids, but it is not easy to separate them from a
> parent that is just too lazy and now has reason not to make breakfast.

But the parent isn't the kid having the breakfast. I don't find it hard to
support every kid having something before starting school. Here High School
starts with the first class bell at 7:15. The kids that avail themselves of
breakfast are there by 6:45. They have to get up and going pretty early for
that.

Cheri

On 2014-09-06 2:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/6/2014 11:48 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 9/6/2014 2:06 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where I am the schools provide free breakfasts to all students at this
>>>> time. Don't know how long it will last since it was going on last year
>>>> too, or if it's available for all of CA, but it is here.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> It will last as long as YOU pay taxes for it.
>>
>> I don't mind.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I don't mind for the poor kids, but it is not easy to separate them from
> a parent that is just too lazy and now has reason not to make breakfast.


There are lots of the latter. My nephew's ex wife is one of them. She's
sleep all day if could get away with it. When they were together it was
my nephew who got her daughter's breakfast, made her lunch and got her
to school. They split up a while ago so I wonder how the poor kid is
coping.

It's nice that there are caring people who are think it is important
that they kids get a proper breakfast. I don't like the idea of adding
this to something that taxpayers get stuck footing the bill for. There
are lots of charities around, and people are free to start one. If
people see a need for a breakfast program in their school they should
start a parent volunteer program to fund raise and to do the work.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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> On 9/6/2014 11:48 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 9/6/2014 2:06 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where I am the schools provide free breakfasts to all students at this
>>>> time. Don't know how long it will last since it was going on last year
>>>> too, or if it's available for all of CA, but it is here.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> It will last as long as YOU pay taxes for it.
>>
>> I don't mind.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> I don't mind for the poor kids, but it is not easy to separate them from a
> parent that is just too lazy and now has reason not to make breakfast.

And so the kid should suffer? If the parent is too lazy for that, then the
kid is probably lacking in other ways. I'd rather not see the kid suffer.

On Sat, 06 Sep 2014 15:03:21 -0300, lucretiaborgia wrote:


> If you are helping the kids who are hungry, they will study better

Absolutely. Hungry kids struggle and/or disrupt class. Struggling and
disruptive students impact all the students in the class, even those who
ate breakfast at home that morning.

Tara

The National School Lunch Act was passed as a measure of national
security.

http://www.fns.usda.gov/nslp/history_5

We all benefit from a healthy, educated society. Educated kids can grow
up to be employees, employers, tax payers, and contributing members of
their community.

Tara

On Sat, 06 Sep 2014 15:03:21 -0300, wrote:

>On Sat, 6 Sep 2014 08:48:26 -0700, "Cheri" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 9/6/2014 2:06 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where I am the schools provide free breakfasts to all students at this
>>>> time. Don't know how long it will last since it was going on last year
>>>> too, or if it's available for all of CA, but it is here.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> It will last as long as YOU pay taxes for it.
>>
>>I don't mind.
>>
>>Cheri
>
>If you are helping the kids who are hungry, they will study better and
>I'd rather see my taxes go to them than yet another glitzy trip for a
>politician.

Amen! Amen! I wish politicians got paid only for the hours they
worked. And campaigning for the next round of elections doesn't
count. That's personal time off.
Janet US

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message

> Amen! Amen! I wish politicians got paid only for the hours they
> worked. And campaigning for the next round of elections doesn't
> count. That's personal time off.
> Janet US

Yes, and let's talk about the prices they pay for their fancy lunches and
all the write offs.

Cheri

On 9/6/2014 1:55 PM, Janet Bostwick wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Sep 2014 15:03:21 -0300, wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2014 08:48:26 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 9/6/2014 2:06 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Where I am the schools provide free breakfasts to all students at this
>>>>> time. Don't know how long it will last since it was going on last year
>>>>> too, or if it's available for all of CA, but it is here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>> It will last as long as YOU pay taxes for it.
>>>
>>> I don't mind.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> If you are helping the kids who are hungry, they will study better and
>> I'd rather see my taxes go to them than yet another glitzy trip for a
>> politician.
>
> Amen! Amen! I wish politicians got paid only for the hours they
> worked. And campaigning for the next round of elections doesn't
> count. That's personal time off.
> Janet US
>

Ditto!