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On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 21:18:07 -0600, DreadfulBitch
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> On 2/4/2014 7:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > Used to be in this country, canned soup was considered the food of the
> > poor because you could get it for really cheap or sometimes free if you
> > had coupons, particularly if your store doubled or tripled those
> > coupons. Didn't apply to all soups. Was usually the Campbell's tomato,
> > chicken and noodle and cream of mushroom. I suspect that a lot of
> > recipes involved using the cream of mushroom soup only because people
> > could get it so cheap and likely had tons of it in the house.

>
> Uhh...um...wha? On what planet were you raised? Growing up we were
> hardly poor but we always had soup in the house for this, that or the
> other thing.


Julie is young and doesn't have the same life experience that you and
I do. My grandmother was a county Home Extension Agent. Part of her
job was to give cooking demonstrations and I remember she cooked pork
chops at home with a can of mushroom soup that was used as gravy.


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On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 10:15:07 PM UTC-8, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 21:18:07 -0600, DreadfulBitch
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> > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 2/4/2014 7:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

>
> >

>
> > > Used to be in this country, canned soup was considered the food of the

>
> > > poor because you could get it for really cheap or sometimes free if you

>
> > > had coupons, particularly if your store doubled or tripled those

>
> > > coupons. Didn't apply to all soups. Was usually the Campbell's tomato,

>
> > > chicken and noodle and cream of mushroom. I suspect that a lot of

>
> > > recipes involved using the cream of mushroom soup only because people

>
> > > could get it so cheap and likely had tons of it in the house.

>
> >

>
> > Uhh...um...wha? On what planet were you raised? Growing up we were

>
> > hardly poor but we always had soup in the house for this, that or the

>
> > other thing.

>
>
>
> Julie is young and doesn't have the same life experience that you and
>
> I do. My grandmother was a county Home Extension Agent. Part of her
>
> job was to give cooking demonstrations and I remember she cooked pork
>
> chops at home with a can of mushroom soup that was used as gravy.
>
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Is she? Sounds *very* old to me.

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> Oh, wasn't sure how old her dd is.


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On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 22:44:19 -0800 (PST), wrote:

> Oh, wasn't sure how old her dd is.


She is well under 20 AFAIK.


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>> Oh, wasn't sure how old her dd is.

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> She is well under 20 AFAIK.


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> She's not that old, unless her DD is adopted or her grandchild.


I was 39 when I had her but... That age for having a child is not uncommon
these days.

One of my ringtones is Blurred Lines. Three are Macklemore. The other one
is Beat It from Michael Jackson. How many really old people would have
those as their ringtones? Heck, most really old people don't even *have*
ringtones. They have flip phones that give them no choice. It ring how it
rings.

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On 2/5/2014 12:45 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "sf" > wrote in message
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>> She's not that old, unless her DD is adopted or her grandchild.

>
> I was 39 when I had her but... That age for having a child is not
> uncommon these days.
>
> One of my ringtones is Blurred Lines. Three are Macklemore. The other
> one is Beat It from Michael Jackson. How many really old people would
> have those as their ringtones? Heck, most really old people don't even
> *have* ringtones. They have flip phones that give them no choice. It
> ring how it rings.


You have a very peculiar way of deciding what "most really old people"
do or have. I have a smart phone (love it!!) with the capability of
different ring tones for different callers. My son's ringtone is a
funky little tune he fell in love with in of his music education
classes. No clue what its name is, but it's a bouncy little tune. My
DH's ringtone is the one from Geico, "a ring a ding ding doh" or
something like that. It's loud and grabs my attention immediately. My
generic ringtone is Nola by Jonathan of Jonathan & Darlene.

My text notification is a harp gliss. My email notification sounds like
Big Ben.

I'm an older person with no clue what the music is you referred to. Of
course, I no longer have a teen in the house. (-:

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"DreadfulBitch" > wrote in message
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> On 2/5/2014 12:45 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
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>>> She's not that old, unless her DD is adopted or her grandchild.

>>
>> I was 39 when I had her but... That age for having a child is not
>> uncommon these days.
>>
>> One of my ringtones is Blurred Lines. Three are Macklemore. The other
>> one is Beat It from Michael Jackson. How many really old people would
>> have those as their ringtones? Heck, most really old people don't even
>> *have* ringtones. They have flip phones that give them no choice. It
>> ring how it rings.

>
> You have a very peculiar way of deciding what "most really old people" do
> or have. I have a smart phone (love it!!) with the capability of
> different ring tones for different callers. My son's ringtone is a funky
> little tune he fell in love with in of his music education classes. No
> clue what its name is, but it's a bouncy little tune. My DH's ringtone is
> the one from Geico, "a ring a ding ding doh" or something like that. It's
> loud and grabs my attention immediately. My generic ringtone is Nola by
> Jonathan of Jonathan & Darlene.
>
> My text notification is a harp gliss. My email notification sounds like
> Big Ben.
>
> I'm an older person with no clue what the music is you referred to. Of
> course, I no longer have a teen in the house. (-:


Surely you must have heard of Michael Jackson! My mom even knows his songs
and she's pushing 80. Macklemore is hip hop. Not sure how you would
classify Robin Thicke. Maybe pop?



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On 2/5/2014 9:48 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/5/2014 1:39 AM, sf wrote:
>> On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 22:26:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 10:15:07 PM UTC-8, sf wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 21:18:07 -0600, DreadfulBitch
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Uhh...um...wha? On what planet were you raised? Growing up we were
>>>>> hardly poor but we always had soup in the house for this, that or the
>>>>> other thing.
>>>>
>>>> Julie is young and doesn't have the same life experience that you and
>>>> I do. My grandmother was a county Home Extension Agent. Part of her
>>>> job was to give cooking demonstrations and I remember she cooked pork
>>>> chops at home with a can of mushroom soup that was used as gravy.
>>>
>>> Is she? Sounds *very* old to me.
>>>

>> She's not that old, unless her DD is adopted or her grandchild.
>>

> She's a year older than I am, which makes her 54. She comes across as
> much younger than that, IMHO.
>
> I don't believe canned soup was food for poor people. It's a
> convenience item, just like so many other things. Naturally people
> began using it to stretch a meal or as you say, sf, make a quick gravy.
> Canned soup has been around for a very long time.
>


Stroganoff is browned strips of good steak with mushrooms and onions in
sour cream and does not take too long to cook but it's not cheap. I
would add that quite a few cooks would season with paprika.


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> For example, pre-sliced apples, or any of the other zillion
> things Julie buys that most of us would make.


What upsets you so much about presliced apples? They are treated so they
won't brown and they are easily portable. No sticky core to dispose of.
They can grab a bag on the way out along with a piece of cheese (also
wrapped) and there's lunch. And it's healthy food!

Maybe you like biting into an apple. I don't. The peel sticks between my
teeth. Yes, the sliced ones have peel but it's small enough and easy enough
to eat so that it doesn't do that.

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On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 16:18:44 -0800, "Julie Bove"
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>"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
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>> For example, pre-sliced apples, or any of the other zillion
>> things Julie buys that most of us would make.

>
>What upsets you so much about presliced apples? They are treated so they
>won't brown and they are easily portable. No sticky core to dispose of.
>They can grab a bag on the way out along with a piece of cheese (also
>wrapped) and there's lunch. And it's healthy food!


What do they treat sliced apples with? I've seen them in one of the
grocery stores here, but have never bothered to pick up a package to
read the ingredients. They appear to cost about 3 times the amount of
the same volume of whole apples.

And the "sticky core" goes into the compost.

>Maybe you like biting into an apple. I don't. The peel sticks between my
>teeth. Yes, the sliced ones have peel but it's small enough and easy enough
>to eat so that it doesn't do that.


Just slice pieces off the whole apple. Not a big deal.

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On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 09:48:05 -0500, jmcquown >
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> On 2/5/2014 1:39 AM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 22:26:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:
> >
> >> On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 10:15:07 PM UTC-8, sf wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 21:18:07 -0600, DreadfulBitch
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Uhh...um...wha? On what planet were you raised? Growing up we were
> >>>> hardly poor but we always had soup in the house for this, that or the
> >>>> other thing.
> >>>
> >>> Julie is young and doesn't have the same life experience that you and
> >>> I do. My grandmother was a county Home Extension Agent. Part of her
> >>> job was to give cooking demonstrations and I remember she cooked pork
> >>> chops at home with a can of mushroom soup that was used as gravy.
> >>
> >> Is she? Sounds *very* old to me.
> >>

> > She's not that old, unless her DD is adopted or her grandchild.
> >

> She's a year older than I am, which makes her 54.


Thanks, I figured she was around 55.

> She comes across as much younger than that, IMHO.


Yes, that's true. I thought doormat was an astute observation, but
I'm done with Julie bashing. It's her life and she can live it - but
I don't want to hear about it either.

The thing that still bothers me is how she expects everyone to keep a
scorecard of the likes/dislikes, intolerances and allergies of
everyone in her family. What's the most annoying is when she asks
open ended questions with no parameters and then when someone replies
with something on her no-no list, it's a big problem. What she should
do is say thank you, take the ideas and work with them or go to the
*internet* to find a similar recipe that fits her needs instead of
turning it into another "all about me" thread.
>
> I don't believe canned soup was food for poor people. It's a
> convenience item, just like so many other things.


Exactly. So many here go on and on about salt not being an issue for
most people and then getting their panties in a wad over the salt
content of canned soup. I won't go on, but you get my point - and the
subtext.

> Naturally people
> began using it to stretch a meal or as you say, sf, make a quick gravy.
> Canned soup has been around for a very long time.
>

I don't think it's the end of the world for someone to say right here
on rfc that they use canned soup for one reason or another. You and I
don't do that, but it's never been part of the way I cooked and
believe it or not - my mother, the convenience food queen of the '50s,
didn't used canned soup for those purposes either. I remember
Campbell's tomato soup and grilled cheese sandwiches for lunch on some
cold Saturdays, but that's about the extent of it.


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On 2/5/2014 11:17 AM, sf wrote:
> I don't think it's the end of the world for someone to say right here
> on rfc that they use canned soup for one reason or another. You and I
> don't do that, but it's never been part of the way I cooked and
> believe it or not - my mother, the convenience food queen of the '50s,
> didn't used canned soup for those purposes either. I remember
> Campbell's tomato soup and grilled cheese sandwiches for lunch on some
> cold Saturdays, but that's about the extent of it.


Ha! My mom's recipe for "chili" was a pound of browned ground beef, a
can of kidney beans (sometimes she got adventurous and bought so-called
"chili-beans"), 2 cans of Campbell's tomato soup and two soup-cans of water.

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In article >,
jmcquown > wrote:
>On 2/5/2014 11:17 AM, sf wrote:
>> I don't think it's the end of the world for someone to say right here
>> on rfc that they use canned soup for one reason or another. You and I
>> don't do that, but it's never been part of the way I cooked and
>> believe it or not - my mother, the convenience food queen of the '50s,
>> didn't used canned soup for those purposes either. I remember
>> Campbell's tomato soup and grilled cheese sandwiches for lunch on some
>> cold Saturdays, but that's about the extent of it.

>
>Ha! My mom's recipe for "chili" was a pound of browned ground beef, a
>can of kidney beans (sometimes she got adventurous and bought so-called
>"chili-beans"), 2 cans of Campbell's tomato soup and two soup-cans of water.


My family's recipe for spaghetti sauce used Campbell's tomato soup.
It also had bacon, for some reason. It was nasty, and no wonder I
didn't eat spaghetti with sauce on it until I left home.

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>Ha! My mom's recipe for "chili" was a pound of browned ground beef, a
>can of kidney beans (sometimes she got adventurous and bought so-called
>"chili-beans"), 2 cans of Campbell's tomato soup and two soup-cans of water.
>
>Jill

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On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:09:36 -0500, jmcquown >
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>Ha! My mom's recipe for "chili" was a pound of browned ground beef, a
>can of kidney beans (sometimes she got adventurous and bought so-called
>"chili-beans"), 2 cans of Campbell's tomato soup and two soup-cans of water.


A woman I used to work with once proudly described to me a new cabbage
roll recipe she had found. "You just pour a can of tomato soup over
them!"

Yum.

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> On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 08:17:05 -0800, sf > wrote:
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>>
>>Yes, that's true. I thought doormat was an astute observation, but
>>I'm done with Julie bashing. It's her life and she can live it - but
>>I don't want to hear about it either.

>
> Sure she can, didn't you realise that ?
>>
>>The thing that still bothers me is how she expects everyone to keep a
>>scorecard of the likes/dislikes, intolerances and allergies of
>>everyone in her family.

>
> Did she? I didn't see where she expected us to do so.


I don't.



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In article >,
> wrote:
>On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 08:17:05 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>>
>>Yes, that's true. I thought doormat was an astute observation, but
>>I'm done with Julie bashing. It's her life and she can live it - but
>>I don't want to hear about it either.

>
>Sure she can, didn't you realise that ?
>>
>>The thing that still bothers me is how she expects everyone to keep a
>>scorecard of the likes/dislikes, intolerances and allergies of
>>everyone in her family.

>
>Did she? I didn't see where she expected us to do so.


Every time she asks about recipes, someone provides one, and
then we read: "But I can't eat that!" "But that's not vegetarian!"
"Nobody eats that."

What she should be writing is "thank you".

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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
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> In article >,
> > wrote:
>>On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 08:17:05 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Yes, that's true. I thought doormat was an astute observation, but
>>>I'm done with Julie bashing. It's her life and she can live it - but
>>>I don't want to hear about it either.

>>
>>Sure she can, didn't you realise that ?
>>>
>>>The thing that still bothers me is how she expects everyone to keep a
>>>scorecard of the likes/dislikes, intolerances and allergies of
>>>everyone in her family.

>>
>>Did she? I didn't see where she expected us to do so.

>
> Every time she asks about recipes, someone provides one, and
> then we read: "But I can't eat that!" "But that's not vegetarian!"
> "Nobody eats that."
>
> What she should be writing is "thank you".


Who are you to determine what I say? What gets me is that I will ask for
something that *is* vegetarian and then I'll get a recipe that uses chicken
broth. Or I will say that I can't have butter and they will tell me not to
eat what I am eating and to have butter instead!

It's not like I expect them to remember things. But when I do ask a
question about a recipe or a food, I will be specific and say what we can
not have and yet someone (not everyone) will post a recipe containing that
which we can't have. It's not just me and it's not just here either.

I hang out on the celiac forum and there is a section for other food
allergies and intolerances. People are always asking for food help there.
They might say that they can't have corn and then someone will give them a
recipe with something derived from corn in it. Or something like that. I
now know that Velveeta has corn in it! Now granted that was obscure and
most people probably wouldn't know this.

But I have seen things like people saying they can't have eggs only to have
someone reply that they can only make this dish with egg noodles or it won't
be good. Stuff like that does get frustrating and annoying when you see it
time and time again. I'm not saying that it happens *here* time and time
again but it does happen and not just to me either.

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> Since you know that will happen, just glide on by the posts she makes,
> or put her in the killfile.


But it doesn't always happen! I do thank people. Sometimes I can't get on
my computer. I did spend a great deal of time in the hospital prior to my
dad's death and my computer was also in the shop for about a week. So then
I couldn't get online and I may have missed some things because after the
shop thing I did have to reload the newsgroups.

Also, I get annoyed such as when I asked about the buttery spread to have
someone tell me to eat butter instead. Should I be thanking that person who
told me to do that which I can not do? Or if I ask for a recipe with no
eggs and they tell me to use eggs? I am rather a smart ass and my first
instinct would be to say thanks but no thanks. And sometimes I will. But I
am trying very hard to be nice and for me sometimes the best I can do is to
say nothing. There are also some who are either in my killfile or are not
but I simply won't respond to them.

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> Is she? Sounds *very* old to me.


I sound *very* old? How so.

I'm 54. Not *very* old but not young either. When I was a teen, I would
have thought it was old. But not now.



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>> Is she? Sounds *very* old to me.

>
> I sound *very* old? How so.
>
> I'm 54. Not *very* old but not young either. When I was a teen, I would
> have thought it was old. But not now.


Isn't it funny that as we become older, it doesn't sound that old to us? :-)

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> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>>> Is she? Sounds *very* old to me.

>>
>> I sound *very* old? How so.
>>
>> I'm 54. Not *very* old but not young either. When I was a teen, I would
>> have thought it was old. But not now.

>
> Isn't it funny that as we become older, it doesn't sound that old to us?
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> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>> > wrote in message
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>>
>>> Is she? Sounds *very* old to me.

>>
>> I sound *very* old? How so.
>>
>> I'm 54. Not *very* old but not young either. When I was a teen, I would
>> have thought it was old. But not now.

>
> Isn't it funny that as we become older, it doesn't sound that old to us?
> :-)


Yeah.

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>> Julie is young and doesn't have the same life experience that you and
>>
>> I do. My grandmother was a county Home Extension Agent. Part of her
>>
>> job was to give cooking demonstrations and I remember she cooked pork
>>
>> chops at home with a can of mushroom soup that was used as gravy.


> Is she? Sounds *very* old to me.


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On 2/5/2014 5:14 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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>>> Julie is young and doesn't have the same life experience that you and
>>>
>>> I do. My grandmother was a county Home Extension Agent. Part of her
>>>
>>> job was to give cooking demonstrations and I remember she cooked pork
>>>
>>> chops at home with a can of mushroom soup that was used as gravy.

>
>> Is she? Sounds *very* old to me.

>
> So do you to me, actually.
>

Jeez, you make it sound like being "very" old is a bad thing!

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>>>> Julie is young and doesn't have the same life experience that you and
>>>>
>>>> I do. My grandmother was a county Home Extension Agent. Part of her
>>>>
>>>> job was to give cooking demonstrations and I remember she cooked pork
>>>>
>>>> chops at home with a can of mushroom soup that was used as gravy.

>>
>>> Is she? Sounds *very* old to me.

>>
>> So do you to me, actually.
>>

> Jeez, you make it sound like being "very" old is a bad thing!


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On 2/5/2014 8:42 PM, DreadfulBitch wrote:
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> Well, it IS no place for sissies, but it sure as health beats the
> alternative!
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.... sure as *hell* ...

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> On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 21:18:07 -0600, DreadfulBitch
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>> On 2/4/2014 7:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
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>> > Used to be in this country, canned soup was considered the food of the
>> > poor because you could get it for really cheap or sometimes free if you
>> > had coupons, particularly if your store doubled or tripled those
>> > coupons. Didn't apply to all soups. Was usually the Campbell's tomato,
>> > chicken and noodle and cream of mushroom. I suspect that a lot of
>> > recipes involved using the cream of mushroom soup only because people
>> > could get it so cheap and likely had tons of it in the house.

>>
>> Uhh...um...wha? On what planet were you raised? Growing up we were
>> hardly poor but we always had soup in the house for this, that or the
>> other thing.

>
> Julie is young and doesn't have the same life experience that you and
> I do. My grandmother was a county Home Extension Agent. Part of her
> job was to give cooking demonstrations and I remember she cooked pork
> chops at home with a can of mushroom soup that was used as gravy.


I'm 54. I could be an AARP member. I'm not young. We rarely ever ate
gravy at home. If we had meat it was usually plain. My mom did make
creamed chipped beef on toast and hamburger gravy. We had turkey gravy if
we had Thanksgiving at home. Often it came in the foil pan with the frozen
turkey roll in it. Our pork chops were pan fried until they came out with
Shake and Bake. Yes, pork chops can be dry. Because mom cooked them for too
long!

My one grandma was a secretary before I knew her. She didn't work when I
did know her. Other grandma had a farm but when my grandpa owned the
restaurant, she cooked in it. When I knew here, she did as much as she
could to avoid cooking, even if that meant cooking enough of one thing and
forcing us to eat it all week. She did bake and make candy though as those
were her preferred foods.



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