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Julie Bove[_2_] 20-11-2013 08:59 AM

Albertsons put things right!
 
Their previous ad was that you get two free boxes of Cheese Nips when you
buy 3, 12 pack Coke products. We don't eat Cheese Nips but I figured I
would give some to a person I know who needs assistance at the moment and
then donate more to the food bank. Brought home 2 boxes. Husband
immediately ate one. Okay then. I guess we *do* eat them!

Went to other Albertsons to repeat the deal. Remembered the amount needed
to buy incorrectly and had picked up 4 Coke products. Realized the mistake
when I got to the cracker aisle. Oh well. Grabbed 4 boxes of crackers then
2 more Coke products.

Forgot to pull out the crackers to put in the donation bin. It was cold
outside and I didn't feel like going back. Took one box into the dance
studio and offered it to a person who has two boys who eat like horses. She
took it.

Got the other three boxes home and only then checked the date on them. They
expired on the 19th! Food bank would not take them and I also felt bad for
giving the other box away like that although if one of her guys found it, it
is probably already long gone. Heh! Then decided to check the remaining
box in our house. It expires on the 24th. Guess I need to check all dates
on things, even on free stuff.

Went back today to see if they had more Cranberry Sprite Zero. They did not
but they did have fresh crackers. But they also had a few that expired on
the 19th and I accidentally picked one up. Mentioned this to the cashier
and said I was going back for fresh ones. Also mentioned the 4 that I got
yesterday. She told me to return them, no questions asked! Wouldn't be
hard to prove that I got them there even without my receipt because I am in
there all the time. So they exchanged them for fresh ones and I was able to
make a donation. :) Donated 6, gave 2 away and still have one in the
house.


Roy[_2_] 20-11-2013 07:26 PM

Albertsons put things right!
 
On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:59:44 AM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
> Their previous ad was that you get two free boxes of Cheese Nips when you
>
> buy 3, 12 pack Coke products. We don't eat Cheese Nips but I figured I
>
> would give some to a person I know who needs assistance at the moment and
>
> then donate more to the food bank. Brought home 2 boxes. Husband
>
> immediately ate one. Okay then. I guess we *do* eat them!
>
>
>
> Went to other Albertsons to repeat the deal. Remembered the amount needed
>
> to buy incorrectly and had picked up 4 Coke products. Realized the mistake
>
> when I got to the cracker aisle. Oh well. Grabbed 4 boxes of crackers then
>
> 2 more Coke products.
>
>
>
> Forgot to pull out the crackers to put in the donation bin. It was cold
>
> outside and I didn't feel like going back. Took one box into the dance
>
> studio and offered it to a person who has two boys who eat like horses. She
>
> took it.
>
>
>
> Got the other three boxes home and only then checked the date on them. They
>
> expired on the 19th! Food bank would not take them and I also felt bad for
>
> giving the other box away like that although if one of her guys found it, it
>
> is probably already long gone. Heh! Then decided to check the remaining
>
> box in our house. It expires on the 24th. Guess I need to check all dates
>
> on things, even on free stuff.
>
>
>
> Went back today to see if they had more Cranberry Sprite Zero. They did not
>
> but they did have fresh crackers. But they also had a few that expired on
>
> the 19th and I accidentally picked one up. Mentioned this to the cashier
>
> and said I was going back for fresh ones. Also mentioned the 4 that I got
>
> yesterday. She told me to return them, no questions asked! Wouldn't be
>
> hard to prove that I got them there even without my receipt because I am in
>
> there all the time. So they exchanged them for fresh ones and I was able to
>
> make a donation. :) Donated 6, gave 2 away and still have one in the
>
> house.


Expiry date means very little...you are throwing away perfectly acceptable
product. What a waste of money to chuck food that could be used with
no consequences. Perishables are a different matter and even there common
sense should prevail.


[email protected] 20-11-2013 08:24 PM

Albertsons put things right!
 
I was the director of a food pantry for over twenty years and could never get over how some people would throw food out on expiration dates. That's just plain wasteful. I had to take a course, sponsored by the local food bank, before I assumed my position. Boxed items, like crackers, don't just automatically turn to crap by a magic date stamped on the box. If the box is clean, open it and taste it. They'll be just fine. Same with most canned goods. We were told that unless the can was severely dented, it was ok many months past the expiration date. Use common sense.

I remember someone donating opened bags of bug infected flour sealed with duct tape. That was disgusting. One time someone donated two bottles of blackberry merlot, which I couldn't give out because our food pantry was in a Methodist Church (no booze).

sf[_9_] 20-11-2013 08:36 PM

Albertsons put things right!
 
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:26:36 -0800 (PST), Roy >
wrote:

> Expiry date means very little...you are throwing away perfectly acceptable
> product. What a waste of money to chuck food that could be used with
> no consequences. Perishables are a different matter and even there common
> sense should prevail.


She's been told that before, but it never seems to sink in.

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Helpful person 20-11-2013 08:48 PM

Albertsons put things right!
 
On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:24:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> I was the director of a food pantry for over twenty years and could never get over how some people would throw food out on expiration dates. That's just plain wasteful. I had to take a course, sponsored by the local food bank, before I assumed my position. Boxed items, like crackers, don't just automatically turn to crap by a magic date stamped on the box. If the box is clean, open it and taste it. They'll be just fine. Same with most canned goods. We were told that unless the can was severely dented, it was ok many months past the expiration date. Use common sense.
>


Dented cans are OK. The indicator is that they are OK as
long as they are not "blown". This is the state in which
you can press the top and it will give. This happens
because bacteria have created gas inside the can.

By the way, at what time of day on the expiration date do
the contents become bad? Is it at EST, GMT or the time at
the canning factory?

http://www.richardfisher.com

jmcquown[_2_] 20-11-2013 09:01 PM

Albertsons put things right!
 
On 11/20/2013 3:36 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:26:36 -0800 (PST), Roy >
> wrote:
>
>> Expiry date means very little...you are throwing away perfectly acceptable
>> product. What a waste of money to chuck food that could be used with
>> no consequences. Perishables are a different matter and even there common
>> sense should prevail.

>
> She's been told that before, but it never seems to sink in.
>

No, it doesn't sink in. That magic date means nothing other than CYA
(cover your ass). If they were a year old, maybe. But unless those
boxes of crackers were opened there probably wasn't a thing wrong with them.

She said, "We don't eat Cheese Nips but I figured I would give some to a
person I know who needs assistance at the moment..."

Yes, indeed. Because people who need assistance with things like food
really *need* Cheese Nips.

Jill

Pico Rico[_2_] 20-11-2013 09:01 PM

Albertsons put things right!
 

"Roy" > wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:59:44 AM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>> Their previous ad was that you get two free boxes of Cheese Nips when you
>>
>> buy 3, 12 pack Coke products. We don't eat Cheese Nips but I figured I
>>
>> would give some to a person I know who needs assistance at the moment and
>>
>> then donate more to the food bank. Brought home 2 boxes. Husband
>>
>> immediately ate one. Okay then. I guess we *do* eat them!
>>
>>
>>
>> Went to other Albertsons to repeat the deal. Remembered the amount
>> needed
>>
>> to buy incorrectly and had picked up 4 Coke products. Realized the
>> mistake
>>
>> when I got to the cracker aisle. Oh well. Grabbed 4 boxes of crackers
>> then
>>
>> 2 more Coke products.
>>
>>
>>
>> Forgot to pull out the crackers to put in the donation bin. It was cold
>>
>> outside and I didn't feel like going back. Took one box into the dance
>>
>> studio and offered it to a person who has two boys who eat like horses.
>> She
>>
>> took it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Got the other three boxes home and only then checked the date on them.
>> They
>>
>> expired on the 19th! Food bank would not take them and I also felt bad
>> for
>>
>> giving the other box away like that although if one of her guys found it,
>> it
>>
>> is probably already long gone. Heh! Then decided to check the remaining
>>
>> box in our house. It expires on the 24th. Guess I need to check all
>> dates
>>
>> on things, even on free stuff.
>>
>>
>>
>> Went back today to see if they had more Cranberry Sprite Zero. They did
>> not
>>
>> but they did have fresh crackers. But they also had a few that expired
>> on
>>
>> the 19th and I accidentally picked one up. Mentioned this to the cashier
>>
>> and said I was going back for fresh ones. Also mentioned the 4 that I
>> got
>>
>> yesterday. She told me to return them, no questions asked! Wouldn't be
>>
>> hard to prove that I got them there even without my receipt because I am
>> in
>>
>> there all the time. So they exchanged them for fresh ones and I was able
>> to
>>
>> make a donation. :) Donated 6, gave 2 away and still have one in the
>>
>> house.

>
> Expiry date means very little...you are throwing away perfectly acceptable
> product. What a waste of money to chuck food that could be used with
> no consequences. Perishables are a different matter and even there common
> sense should prevail.


good to know this nation's "needy people" are not so needy they can't turn
down one-day-expired food items. Life must be good for them.



dsi1[_15_] 20-11-2013 09:05 PM

Albertsons put things right!
 
On 11/20/2013 9:26 AM, Roy wrote:
>
> Expiry date means very little...you are throwing away perfectly acceptable
> product. What a waste of money to chuck food that could be used with
> no consequences. Perishables are a different matter and even there common
> sense should prevail.
>

I pretty dates on cans. My stomach is stronger than mere printed dates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAXtjH3EmLs

gtr 20-11-2013 09:34 PM

Albertsons put things right!
 
On 2013-11-20 21:01:21 +0000, jmcquown said:

> On 11/20/2013 3:36 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:26:36 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Expiry date means very little...you are throwing away perfectly acceptable
>>> product. What a waste of money to chuck food that could be used with
>>> no consequences. Perishables are a different matter and even there common
>>> sense should prevail.

>>
>> She's been told that before, but it never seems to sink in.
>>

> No, it doesn't sink in. That magic date means nothing other than CYA
> (cover your ass). If they were a year old, maybe. But unless those
> boxes of crackers were opened there probably wasn't a thing wrong with
> them.


The date means nothing except "add a year" then? My wife is quick to
check dates, and we volley back and forth between "Sell by..." dates
and "Use by..." dates.

I find the "Use by..." date sometimes means something and sometimes
means nothing. So it's not much help.

> She said, "We don't eat Cheese Nips but I figured I would give some to
> a person I know who needs assistance at the moment..."
>
> Yes, indeed. Because people who need assistance with things like food
> really *need* Cheese Nips.


Well even the assistance-needy like the occasional treat.


jmcquown[_2_] 20-11-2013 09:43 PM

Albertsons put things right!
 
On 11/20/2013 4:34 PM, gtr wrote:
> On 2013-11-20 21:01:21 +0000, jmcquown said:
>
> I find the "Use by..." date sometimes means something and sometimes
> means nothing. So it's not much help.
>
>> She said, "We don't eat Cheese Nips but I figured I would give some to
>> a person I know who needs assistance at the moment..."
>>
>> Yes, indeed. Because people who need assistance with things like food
>> really *need* Cheese Nips.

>
> Well even the assistance-needy like the occasional treat.
>

Sure they do. But to foist something off on the "needy" because she's
in a tizzy about the random date doesn't exactly make her sound like a
great benefactor.

How come the only fresh foods I ever hear her mention are things like
bagged salad or something off a salad bar? And even then there's
something wrong with it. There's always something wrong. Apparently
they don't eat a lot of fresh (or even frozen) vegetables in that house.
But hey, they saved a few cents on canned soda. Sheesh.

Jill

Ophelia[_11_] 20-11-2013 09:45 PM

Albertsons put things right!
 


"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/20/2013 4:34 PM, gtr wrote:
>> On 2013-11-20 21:01:21 +0000, jmcquown said:
>>
>> I find the "Use by..." date sometimes means something and sometimes
>> means nothing. So it's not much help.
>>
>>> She said, "We don't eat Cheese Nips but I figured I would give some to
>>> a person I know who needs assistance at the moment..."
>>>
>>> Yes, indeed. Because people who need assistance with things like food
>>> really *need* Cheese Nips.

>>
>> Well even the assistance-needy like the occasional treat.
>>

> Sure they do. But to foist something off on the "needy" because she's in
> a tizzy about the random date doesn't exactly make her sound like a great
> benefactor.
>
> How come the only fresh foods I ever hear her mention are things like
> bagged salad or something off a salad bar? And even then there's
> something wrong with it. There's always something wrong. Apparently they
> don't eat a lot of fresh (or even frozen) vegetables in that house. But
> hey, they saved a few cents on canned soda. Sheesh.


<shrug> Her money, her choice!


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jmcquown[_2_] 20-11-2013 10:06 PM

Albertsons put things right!
 
On 11/20/2013 4:45 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 11/20/2013 4:34 PM, gtr wrote:
>>> On 2013-11-20 21:01:21 +0000, jmcquown said:
>>>
>>> I find the "Use by..." date sometimes means something and sometimes
>>> means nothing. So it's not much help.
>>>
>>>> She said, "We don't eat Cheese Nips but I figured I would give some to
>>>> a person I know who needs assistance at the moment..."
>>>>
>>>> Yes, indeed. Because people who need assistance with things like food
>>>> really *need* Cheese Nips.
>>>
>>> Well even the assistance-needy like the occasional treat.
>>>

>> Sure they do. But to foist something off on the "needy" because she's in
>> a tizzy about the random date doesn't exactly make her sound like a great
>> benefactor.
>>
>> How come the only fresh foods I ever hear her mention are things like
>> bagged salad or something off a salad bar? And even then there's
>> something wrong with it. There's always something wrong. Apparently
>> they
>> don't eat a lot of fresh (or even frozen) vegetables in that house. But
>> hey, they saved a few cents on canned soda. Sheesh.

>
> <shrug> Her money, her choice!
>


That's very true. I guess I just don't understand people who buy into
those types of "deals". (Then again, I don't drink soda so I would have
no need for three cases of them.)

I still don't understand the obsession with expiration dates. The food
doesn't miraculously go bad on that date. Especially not if the package
has never been opened.

Oh, and her husband ate one box of Cheese Nips. In case you don't know,
they're cheese crackers made by Nabisco. Yet she gave the others away.
None of it makes much sense. Maybe she thinks he shouldn't like
Cheese Nips. I think she shouldn't drink so much soda pop. <shrug>

Jill

gtr 20-11-2013 10:14 PM

Albertsons put things right!
 
On 2013-11-20 21:43:21 +0000, jmcquown said:

> On 11/20/2013 4:34 PM, gtr wrote:
>> On 2013-11-20 21:01:21 +0000, jmcquown said:
>>
>> I find the "Use by..." date sometimes means something and sometimes
>> means nothing. So it's not much help.
>>
>>> She said, "We don't eat Cheese Nips but I figured I would give some to
>>> a person I know who needs assistance at the moment..."
>>>
>>> Yes, indeed. Because people who need assistance with things like food
>>> really *need* Cheese Nips.

>>
>> Well even the assistance-needy like the occasional treat.
>>

> Sure they do. But to foist something off on the "needy" because she's
> in a tizzy about the random date doesn't exactly make her sound like a
> great benefactor.


No: It's the Seinfeld "Muffin stumps" scenario. My wife gets iffy
relative to stamped dates. So I tend to say something like, "Is this
can poison yet, it says..."

If someone thinks its "not fit to eat", giving it to someone else
hardly seems magnanimous.

> How come the only fresh foods I ever hear her mention are things like
> bagged salad or something off a salad bar? And even then there's
> something wrong with it. There's always something wrong. Apparently
> they don't eat a lot of fresh (or even frozen) vegetables in that
> house. But hey, they saved a few cents on canned soda. Sheesh.


Now that you've introduced the entire gestalt, I'm weary... weary...


Ophelia[_11_] 20-11-2013 10:22 PM

Albertsons put things right!
 


"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/20/2013 4:45 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 11/20/2013 4:34 PM, gtr wrote:
>>>> On 2013-11-20 21:01:21 +0000, jmcquown said:
>>>>
>>>> I find the "Use by..." date sometimes means something and sometimes
>>>> means nothing. So it's not much help.
>>>>
>>>>> She said, "We don't eat Cheese Nips but I figured I would give some to
>>>>> a person I know who needs assistance at the moment..."
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, indeed. Because people who need assistance with things like food
>>>>> really *need* Cheese Nips.
>>>>
>>>> Well even the assistance-needy like the occasional treat.
>>>>
>>> Sure they do. But to foist something off on the "needy" because she's
>>> in
>>> a tizzy about the random date doesn't exactly make her sound like a
>>> great
>>> benefactor.
>>>
>>> How come the only fresh foods I ever hear her mention are things like
>>> bagged salad or something off a salad bar? And even then there's
>>> something wrong with it. There's always something wrong. Apparently
>>> they
>>> don't eat a lot of fresh (or even frozen) vegetables in that house. But
>>> hey, they saved a few cents on canned soda. Sheesh.

>>
>> <shrug> Her money, her choice!
>>

>
> That's very true. I guess I just don't understand people who buy into
> those types of "deals". (Then again, I don't drink soda so I would have
> no need for three cases of them.)
>
> I still don't understand the obsession with expiration dates. The food
> doesn't miraculously go bad on that date. Especially not if the package
> has never been opened.
>
> Oh, and her husband ate one box of Cheese Nips. In case you don't know,
> they're cheese crackers made by Nabisco. Yet she gave the others away.
> None of it makes much sense. Maybe she thinks he shouldn't like Cheese
> Nips. I think she shouldn't drink so much soda pop. <shrug>


Maybe, but it is her choice and her money and she isn't asking us for
anything. I know it feels like waste to us and we wouldn't do it, but you
can't prescribe how someone else should live their lives. I guess we are
all happy in our own ways, regardless how that looks to others. I wonder
what thee and me does that would outrage others ... <g>


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gtr 20-11-2013 10:30 PM

Albertsons put things right!
 
On 2013-11-20 22:22:56 +0000, Ophelia said:

> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 11/20/2013 4:45 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 11/20/2013 4:34 PM, gtr wrote:
>>>>> On 2013-11-20 21:01:21 +0000, jmcquown said:
>>>>>
>>>>> I find the "Use by..." date sometimes means something and sometimes
>>>>> means nothing. So it's not much help.
>>>>>
>>>>>> She said, "We don't eat Cheese Nips but I figured I would give some to
>>>>>> a person I know who needs assistance at the moment..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, indeed. Because people who need assistance with things like food
>>>>>> really *need* Cheese Nips.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well even the assistance-needy like the occasional treat.
>>>>>
>>>> Sure they do. But to foist something off on the "needy" because she's in
>>>> a tizzy about the random date doesn't exactly make her sound like a great
>>>> benefactor.
>>>>
>>>> How come the only fresh foods I ever hear her mention are things like
>>>> bagged salad or something off a salad bar? And even then there's
>>>> something wrong with it. There's always something wrong. Apparently
>>>> they
>>>> don't eat a lot of fresh (or even frozen) vegetables in that house. But
>>>> hey, they saved a few cents on canned soda. Sheesh.
>>>
>>> <shrug> Her money, her choice!
>>>

>>
>> That's very true. I guess I just don't understand people who buy into
>> those types of "deals". (Then again, I don't drink soda so I would
>> have no need for three cases of them.)
>>
>> I still don't understand the obsession with expiration dates. The food
>> doesn't miraculously go bad on that date. Especially not if the
>> package has never been opened.
>>
>> Oh, and her husband ate one box of Cheese Nips. In case you don't
>> know, they're cheese crackers made by Nabisco. Yet she gave the others
>> away. None of it makes much sense. Maybe she thinks he shouldn't like
>> Cheese Nips. I think she shouldn't drink so much soda pop. <shrug>

>
> Maybe, but it is her choice and her money and she isn't asking us for
> anything. I know it feels like waste to us and we wouldn't do it, but
> you can't prescribe how someone else should live their lives. I
> guess we are all happy in our own ways, regardless how that looks to
> others. I wonder what thee and me does that would outrage others ...
> <g>


Thee? Me? What about JULIE!?! Why are you trying to change the
discussion to something other than JULIE: Her hopes, her fears, her
goals, her dreams?


ViLco 20-11-2013 10:37 PM

Albertsons put things right!
 
Il 20/11/2013 23:06, jmcquown ha scritto:

> The food doesn't miraculously go bad on that date.


This would be a nice sigline :)


Ophelia[_11_] 20-11-2013 10:37 PM

Albertsons put things right!
 


"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013112014301992778-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-11-20 22:22:56 +0000, Ophelia said:
>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 11/20/2013 4:45 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 11/20/2013 4:34 PM, gtr wrote:
>>>>>> On 2013-11-20 21:01:21 +0000, jmcquown said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I find the "Use by..." date sometimes means something and sometimes
>>>>>> means nothing. So it's not much help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She said, "We don't eat Cheese Nips but I figured I would give some
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> a person I know who needs assistance at the moment..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, indeed. Because people who need assistance with things like
>>>>>>> food
>>>>>>> really *need* Cheese Nips.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well even the assistance-needy like the occasional treat.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sure they do. But to foist something off on the "needy" because she's
>>>>> in
>>>>> a tizzy about the random date doesn't exactly make her sound like a
>>>>> great
>>>>> benefactor.
>>>>>
>>>>> How come the only fresh foods I ever hear her mention are things like
>>>>> bagged salad or something off a salad bar? And even then there's
>>>>> something wrong with it. There's always something wrong. Apparently
>>>>> they
>>>>> don't eat a lot of fresh (or even frozen) vegetables in that house.
>>>>> But
>>>>> hey, they saved a few cents on canned soda. Sheesh.
>>>>
>>>> <shrug> Her money, her choice!
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's very true. I guess I just don't understand people who buy into
>>> those types of "deals". (Then again, I don't drink soda so I would have
>>> no need for three cases of them.)
>>>
>>> I still don't understand the obsession with expiration dates. The food
>>> doesn't miraculously go bad on that date. Especially not if the package
>>> has never been opened.
>>>
>>> Oh, and her husband ate one box of Cheese Nips. In case you don't know,
>>> they're cheese crackers made by Nabisco. Yet she gave the others away.
>>> None of it makes much sense. Maybe she thinks he shouldn't like Cheese
>>> Nips. I think she shouldn't drink so much soda pop. <shrug>

>>
>> Maybe, but it is her choice and her money and she isn't asking us for
>> anything. I know it feels like waste to us and we wouldn't do it, but
>> you can't prescribe how someone else should live their lives. I guess
>> we are all happy in our own ways, regardless how that looks to others. I
>> wonder what thee and me does that would outrage others ... <g>

>
> Thee? Me? What about JULIE!?! Why are you trying to change the
> discussion to something other than JULIE: Her hopes, her fears, her goals,
> her dreams?


Cos that Jill one and me are 'portant people too yannow ;)

Hmm anyway Mr G ... do you have something you wish to confess, about what
you do that would enrage us? Do you? Hmmm?



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ViLco 20-11-2013 10:40 PM

Albertsons put things right!
 
Il 20/11/2013 23:37, Ophelia ha scritto:

>> Thee? Me? What about JULIE!?! Why are you trying to change the
>> discussion to something other than JULIE: Her hopes, her fears, her
>> goals,
>> her dreams?


> Cos that Jill one and me are 'portant people too yannow ;)
>
> Hmm anyway Mr G ... do you have something you wish to confess, about what
> you do that would enrage us? Do you? Hmmm?


Puuleeeze, don't start up a flame when my eyebrows are so heavy that I
can't join in!
Or... well, if you can keep it ut till tomorrow I'll be fine :)

Ophelia[_11_] 20-11-2013 10:42 PM

Albertsons put things right!
 


"ViLco" > wrote in message
...
> Il 20/11/2013 23:37, Ophelia ha scritto:
>
>>> Thee? Me? What about JULIE!?! Why are you trying to change the
>>> discussion to something other than JULIE: Her hopes, her fears, her
>>> goals,
>>> her dreams?

>
>> Cos that Jill one and me are 'portant people too yannow ;)
>>
>> Hmm anyway Mr G ... do you have something you wish to confess, about what
>> you do that would enrage us? Do you? Hmmm?

>
> Puuleeeze, don't start up a flame when my eyebrows are so heavy that I
> can't join in!
> Or... well, if you can keep it ut till tomorrow I'll be fine :)


Ooh if I wait till tomorrow, will you help me start a flame with Mr G about
his confessions? heh
;)

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jmcquown[_2_] 20-11-2013 10:51 PM

Albertsons put things right!
 
On 11/20/2013 5:37 PM, ViLco wrote:
> Il 20/11/2013 23:06, jmcquown ha scritto:
>
>> The food doesn't miraculously go bad on that date.

>
> This would be a nice sigline :)
>

Probably because it's true. :)

Jill

ViLco 20-11-2013 10:51 PM

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Il 20/11/2013 23:42, Ophelia ha scritto:

>> Puuleeeze, don't start up a flame when my eyebrows are so heavy that I
>> can't join in!
>> Or... well, if you can keep it ut till tomorrow I'll be fine :)


> Ooh if I wait till tomorrow, will you help me start a flame with Mr G
> about his confessions? heh
> ;)


LOL, sure, I'll be there asking and asking, let's cook this Mr G low &
slow southern style


ViLco 20-11-2013 10:52 PM

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Il 20/11/2013 23:51, jmcquown ha scritto:

>>> The food doesn't miraculously go bad on that date.


>> This would be a nice sigline :)


> Probably because it's true. :)


That's the point :)


Ophelia[_11_] 20-11-2013 10:52 PM

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"ViLco" > wrote in message
...
> Il 20/11/2013 23:42, Ophelia ha scritto:
>
>>> Puuleeeze, don't start up a flame when my eyebrows are so heavy that I
>>> can't join in!
>>> Or... well, if you can keep it ut till tomorrow I'll be fine :)

>
>> Ooh if I wait till tomorrow, will you help me start a flame with Mr G
>> about his confessions? heh
>> ;)

>
> LOL, sure, I'll be there asking and asking, let's cook this Mr G low &
> slow southern style


Well whatever floats yer boat:)

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Janet Bostwick 20-11-2013 10:53 PM

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On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:48:49 -0800 (PST), Helpful person
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:24:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>> I was the director of a food pantry for over twenty years and could never get over how some people would throw food out on expiration dates. That's just plain wasteful. I had to take a course, sponsored by the local food bank, before I assumed my position. Boxed items, like crackers, don't just automatically turn to crap by a magic date stamped on the box. If the box is clean, open it and taste it. They'll be just fine. Same with most canned goods. We were told that unless the can was severely dented, it was ok many months past the expiration date. Use common sense.
>>

>
>Dented cans are OK. The indicator is that they are OK as
>long as they are not "blown". This is the state in which
>you can press the top and it will give. This happens
>because bacteria have created gas inside the can.
>
>By the way, at what time of day on the expiration date do
>the contents become bad? Is it at EST, GMT or the time at
>the canning factory?
>
>http://www.richardfisher.com


Oh, Crap! No one ever said. How will we know, what to do, what to
do. Oh my, oh my, oh my.
Janet US

Ophelia[_11_] 20-11-2013 10:54 PM

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"ViLco" > wrote in message
...
> Il 20/11/2013 23:51, jmcquown ha scritto:
>
>>>> The food doesn't miraculously go bad on that date.

>
>>> This would be a nice sigline :)

>
>> Probably because it's true. :)

>
> That's the point :)


Personally I don't worry about the dates on cans especially, but I know not
everyone is like me!

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gtr 20-11-2013 11:53 PM

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On 2013-11-20 22:52:27 +0000, Ophelia said:

> "ViLco" > wrote in message ...
>> Il 20/11/2013 23:42, Ophelia ha scritto:
>>
>>>> Puuleeeze, don't start up a flame when my eyebrows are so heavy that I
>>>> can't join in!
>>>> Or... well, if you can keep it ut till tomorrow I'll be fine :)

>>
>>> Ooh if I wait till tomorrow, will you help me start a flame with Mr G
>>> about his confessions? heh
>>> ;)

>>
>> LOL, sure, I'll be there asking and asking, let's cook this Mr G low &
>> slow southern style

>
> Well whatever floats yer boat:)


Goddam it, we're suppose to be talking about Julie and her stuff. This
is rec.food.cooking, not rec.stuff-other-than-julie.cooking. Wise up!


gtr 20-11-2013 11:54 PM

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On 2013-11-20 22:54:18 +0000, Ophelia said:

> "ViLco" > wrote in message ...
>> Il 20/11/2013 23:51, jmcquown ha scritto:
>>
>>>>> The food doesn't miraculously go bad on that date.

>>
>>>> This would be a nice sigline :)

>>
>>> Probably because it's true. :)

>>
>> That's the point :)

>
> Personally I don't worry about the dates on cans especially, but I know
> not everyone is like me!


That's the last thing my Mom every said.

There was an old can of "smoked oysters" on the counter.


gtr 20-11-2013 11:59 PM

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On 2013-11-20 20:24:52 +0000, said:

> I was the director of a food pantry for over twenty years and could
> never get over how some people would throw food out on expiration
> dates. That's just plain wasteful. I had to take a course, sponsored
> by the local food bank, before I assumed my position. Boxed items,
> like crackers, don't just automatically turn to crap by a magic date
> stamped on the box.


Well now we know what date they DON'T turn to crap but when they DO
they turn to crap?

> If the box is clean, open it and taste it. They'll be just fine.


For 10 years? I'll send you a couple and you can taste them...

> Same with most canned goods. We were told that unless the can was
> severely dented, it was ok many months past the expiration date. Use
> common sense.


I hope I'm using common sense by following your guide lines. So "many
months" is, what--8 months after expiration date?

> I remember someone donating opened bags of bug infected flour sealed
> with duct tape.


If I can see buys crawling in it I don't need to check the date.

> One time someone donated two bottles of blackberry merlot, which I
> couldn't give out because our food pantry was in a Methodist Church (no
> booze).


Was it good?


Malcom \Mal\ Reynolds 21-11-2013 01:17 AM

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In article >,
"Ophelia" > wrote:

> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 11/20/2013 4:45 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> On 11/20/2013 4:34 PM, gtr wrote:
> >>>> On 2013-11-20 21:01:21 +0000, jmcquown said:
> >>>>
> >>>> I find the "Use by..." date sometimes means something and sometimes
> >>>> means nothing. So it's not much help.
> >>>>
> >>>>> She said, "We don't eat Cheese Nips but I figured I would give some to
> >>>>> a person I know who needs assistance at the moment..."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, indeed. Because people who need assistance with things like food
> >>>>> really *need* Cheese Nips.
> >>>>
> >>>> Well even the assistance-needy like the occasional treat.
> >>>>
> >>> Sure they do. But to foist something off on the "needy" because she's
> >>> in
> >>> a tizzy about the random date doesn't exactly make her sound like a
> >>> great
> >>> benefactor.
> >>>
> >>> How come the only fresh foods I ever hear her mention are things like
> >>> bagged salad or something off a salad bar? And even then there's
> >>> something wrong with it. There's always something wrong. Apparently
> >>> they
> >>> don't eat a lot of fresh (or even frozen) vegetables in that house. But
> >>> hey, they saved a few cents on canned soda. Sheesh.
> >>
> >> <shrug> Her money, her choice!
> >>

> >
> > That's very true. I guess I just don't understand people who buy into
> > those types of "deals". (Then again, I don't drink soda so I would have
> > no need for three cases of them.)
> >
> > I still don't understand the obsession with expiration dates. The food
> > doesn't miraculously go bad on that date. Especially not if the package
> > has never been opened.
> >
> > Oh, and her husband ate one box of Cheese Nips. In case you don't know,
> > they're cheese crackers made by Nabisco. Yet she gave the others away.
> > None of it makes much sense. Maybe she thinks he shouldn't like Cheese
> > Nips. I think she shouldn't drink so much soda pop. <shrug>

>
> Maybe, but it is her choice and her money and she isn't asking us for
> anything. I know it feels like waste to us and we wouldn't do it, but you
> can't prescribe how someone else should live their lives. I guess we are
> all happy in our own ways, regardless how that looks to others. I wonder
> what thee and me does that would outrage others ... <g>


but you have to appreciate the irony of someone who has so many
food/nutrition/health problems (and fetishes) who buys so many things
that are bad for her but gets them because they are a bargain...and all
the while trying to look like a generous person who gives stuff she
wouldn't eat, away

Malcom \Mal\ Reynolds 21-11-2013 01:20 AM

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In article <2013112015590083108-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr > wrote:

> On 2013-11-20 20:24:52 +0000, said:
>
> > I was the director of a food pantry for over twenty years and could
> > never get over how some people would throw food out on expiration
> > dates. That's just plain wasteful. I had to take a course, sponsored
> > by the local food bank, before I assumed my position. Boxed items,
> > like crackers, don't just automatically turn to crap by a magic date
> > stamped on the box.

>
> Well now we know what date they DON'T turn to crap but when they DO
> they turn to crap?
>
> > If the box is clean, open it and taste it. They'll be just fine.

>
> For 10 years? I'll send you a couple and you can taste them...
>
> > Same with most canned goods. We were told that unless the can was
> > severely dented, it was ok many months past the expiration date. Use
> > common sense.

>
> I hope I'm using common sense by following your guide lines. So "many
> months" is, what--8 months after expiration date?
>
> > I remember someone donating opened bags of bug infected flour sealed
> > with duct tape.

>
> If I can see buys crawling in it I don't need to check the date.
>
> > One time someone donated two bottles of blackberry merlot, which I
> > couldn't give out because our food pantry was in a Methodist Church (no
> > booze).

>
> Was it good?


on the Tonight Show, Leno has frequently bought from ebay things like
decades old Twinkies and eaten them

Julie Bove[_2_] 21-11-2013 03:10 AM

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"Roy" > wrote in message
...

> Expiry date means very little...you are throwing away perfectly acceptable
> product. What a waste of money to chuck food that could be used with
> no consequences. Perishables are a different matter and even there common
> sense should prevail.


I must disagree. I have tried crackers and chips that were past the
expiration date and they tasted stale. But... I was going to donate these
to the food bank and they will not take expired food. So it wouldn't have
been me throwing it away. It would have been them.


Julie Bove[_2_] 21-11-2013 03:13 AM

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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:26:36 -0800 (PST), Roy >
> wrote:
>
>> Expiry date means very little...you are throwing away perfectly
>> acceptable
>> product. What a waste of money to chuck food that could be used with
>> no consequences. Perishables are a different matter and even there common
>> sense should prevail.

>
> She's been told that before, but it never seems to sink in.


It doesn't sink in because it's just not true! As I said... I tried eating
expired chips and crackers. Did not taste good. If you want to eat them,
go right ahead. But I will not donate expired product because they would
just throw it out.


Julie Bove[_2_] 21-11-2013 03:15 AM

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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 11/20/2013 3:36 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:26:36 -0800 (PST), Roy >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Expiry date means very little...you are throwing away perfectly
>>> acceptable
>>> product. What a waste of money to chuck food that could be used with
>>> no consequences. Perishables are a different matter and even there
>>> common
>>> sense should prevail.

>>
>> She's been told that before, but it never seems to sink in.
>>

> No, it doesn't sink in. That magic date means nothing other than CYA
> (cover your ass). If they were a year old, maybe. But unless those boxes
> of crackers were opened there probably wasn't a thing wrong with them.
>
> She said, "We don't eat Cheese Nips but I figured I would give some to a
> person I know who needs assistance at the moment..."
>
> Yes, indeed. Because people who need assistance with things like food
> really *need* Cheese Nips.


This person said they *need* anything they can get. I can't afford to buy
her things. These were free and I didn't want them. So... Why not give
them to someone who can use them?


Julie Bove[_2_] 21-11-2013 03:16 AM

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"Pico Rico" > wrote in message
...
> good to know this nation's "needy people" are not so needy they can't turn
> down one-day-expired food items. Life must be good for them.


I don't know of needy people turning them down but our food bank will not
take expired items. So there was no point in my getting them.


gtr 21-11-2013 03:27 AM

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On 2013-11-21 01:17:37 +0000, Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds said:

> In article >,
> "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 11/20/2013 4:45 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 11/20/2013 4:34 PM, gtr wrote:
>>>>>> On 2013-11-20 21:01:21 +0000, jmcquown said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I find the "Use by..." date sometimes means something and sometimes
>>>>>> means nothing. So it's not much help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She said, "We don't eat Cheese Nips but I figured I would give some to
>>>>>>> a person I know who needs assistance at the moment..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, indeed. Because people who need assistance with things like food
>>>>>>> really *need* Cheese Nips.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well even the assistance-needy like the occasional treat.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sure they do. But to foist something off on the "needy" because she's
>>>>> in
>>>>> a tizzy about the random date doesn't exactly make her sound like a
>>>>> great
>>>>> benefactor.
>>>>>
>>>>> How come the only fresh foods I ever hear her mention are things like
>>>>> bagged salad or something off a salad bar? And even then there's
>>>>> something wrong with it. There's always something wrong. Apparently
>>>>> they
>>>>> don't eat a lot of fresh (or even frozen) vegetables in that house. But
>>>>> hey, they saved a few cents on canned soda. Sheesh.
>>>>
>>>> <shrug> Her money, her choice!
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's very true. I guess I just don't understand people who buy into
>>> those types of "deals". (Then again, I don't drink soda so I would have
>>> no need for three cases of them.)
>>>
>>> I still don't understand the obsession with expiration dates. The food
>>> doesn't miraculously go bad on that date. Especially not if the package
>>> has never been opened.
>>>
>>> Oh, and her husband ate one box of Cheese Nips. In case you don't know,
>>> they're cheese crackers made by Nabisco. Yet she gave the others away.
>>> None of it makes much sense. Maybe she thinks he shouldn't like Cheese
>>> Nips. I think she shouldn't drink so much soda pop. <shrug>

>>
>> Maybe, but it is her choice and her money and she isn't asking us for
>> anything. I know it feels like waste to us and we wouldn't do it, but you
>> can't prescribe how someone else should live their lives. I guess we are
>> all happy in our own ways, regardless how that looks to others. I wonder
>> what thee and me does that would outrage others ... <g>

>
> but you have to appreciate the irony of someone who has so many
> food/nutrition/health problems (and fetishes) who buys so many things
> that are bad for her but gets them because they are a bargain...and all
> the while trying to look like a generous person who gives stuff she
> wouldn't eat, away


Julie; the woman, the riddle, the mystery, the default topic category.


Julie Bove[_2_] 21-11-2013 04:03 AM

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"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013112019270379622-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-11-21 01:17:37 +0000, Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds said:
>
>> In article >,
>> "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 11/20/2013 4:45 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On 11/20/2013 4:34 PM, gtr wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2013-11-20 21:01:21 +0000, jmcquown said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I find the "Use by..." date sometimes means something and sometimes
>>>>>>> means nothing. So it's not much help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> She said, "We don't eat Cheese Nips but I figured I would give some
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> a person I know who needs assistance at the moment..."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, indeed. Because people who need assistance with things like
>>>>>>>> food
>>>>>>>> really *need* Cheese Nips.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well even the assistance-needy like the occasional treat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure they do. But to foist something off on the "needy" because
>>>>>> she's
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> a tizzy about the random date doesn't exactly make her sound like a
>>>>>> great
>>>>>> benefactor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How come the only fresh foods I ever hear her mention are things like
>>>>>> bagged salad or something off a salad bar? And even then there's
>>>>>> something wrong with it. There's always something wrong. Apparently
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> don't eat a lot of fresh (or even frozen) vegetables in that house.
>>>>>> But
>>>>>> hey, they saved a few cents on canned soda. Sheesh.
>>>>>
>>>>> <shrug> Her money, her choice!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's very true. I guess I just don't understand people who buy into
>>>> those types of "deals". (Then again, I don't drink soda so I would
>>>> have
>>>> no need for three cases of them.)
>>>>
>>>> I still don't understand the obsession with expiration dates. The food
>>>> doesn't miraculously go bad on that date. Especially not if the
>>>> package
>>>> has never been opened.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and her husband ate one box of Cheese Nips. In case you don't
>>>> know,
>>>> they're cheese crackers made by Nabisco. Yet she gave the others away.
>>>> None of it makes much sense. Maybe she thinks he shouldn't like Cheese
>>>> Nips. I think she shouldn't drink so much soda pop. <shrug>
>>>
>>> Maybe, but it is her choice and her money and she isn't asking us for
>>> anything. I know it feels like waste to us and we wouldn't do it, but
>>> you
>>> can't prescribe how someone else should live their lives. I guess we
>>> are
>>> all happy in our own ways, regardless how that looks to others. I
>>> wonder
>>> what thee and me does that would outrage others ... <g>

>>
>> but you have to appreciate the irony of someone who has so many
>> food/nutrition/health problems (and fetishes) who buys so many things
>> that are bad for her but gets them because they are a bargain...and all
>> the while trying to look like a generous person who gives stuff she
>> wouldn't eat, away

>
> Julie; the woman, the riddle, the mystery, the default topic category.


Whoever posted that is in my KF most likely. I do like soda pop. Only
diet. Debatable as to whether or not it is good for us. But I don't drink,
smoke, do drugs and most of the time don't even eat sugar so... That is one
of my pleasures.

As for the Cheese Nips, I might eat them if I could have dairy. Don't know.
Not really sure I have ever eaten them as I don't normally eat crackers.
But why not get them and donate them? They were free! Of couse I do donate
other things when I can afford to do so. Right now I just can't afford it
for various reasons. Christmas and birthdays being one of them.
>



Ophelia[_11_] 21-11-2013 10:46 AM

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"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:06:53 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I still don't understand the obsession with expiration dates. The food
>> doesn't miraculously go bad on that date. Especially not if the package
>> has never been opened.

>
> I've called Julie on her reluctance to donate (or eat) "expired" foods
> but she dances around where her food donations [would] end up.
>
> I've alienated a few friends over out-of-date foods but so far I've
> never heard of Cheese Nips exploding. I didn't even know they still
> made Cheese Nips. They don't even exist in Texas, at least.
>
> But I did recently see Booberry, Count Chocula, Yummy Mummy,
> Frankenberry, and ... drum roll..... Frute Brute cereals. I used to
> eat all these as a kid. It's probably why I'm so demented.


LOL
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Ophelia[_11_] 21-11-2013 10:46 AM

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"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013112015545763380-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-11-20 22:54:18 +0000, Ophelia said:
>
>> "ViLco" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Il 20/11/2013 23:51, jmcquown ha scritto:
>>>
>>>>>> The food doesn't miraculously go bad on that date.
>>>
>>>>> This would be a nice sigline :)
>>>
>>>> Probably because it's true. :)
>>>
>>> That's the point :)

>>
>> Personally I don't worry about the dates on cans especially, but I know
>> not everyone is like me!

>
> That's the last thing my Mom every said.
>
> There was an old can of "smoked oysters" on the counter.


LOL

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Ophelia[_11_] 21-11-2013 10:47 AM

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"gtr" > wrote in message news:2013112015535345557-xxx@yyyzzz...
> On 2013-11-20 22:52:27 +0000, Ophelia said:
>
>> "ViLco" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Il 20/11/2013 23:42, Ophelia ha scritto:
>>>
>>>>> Puuleeeze, don't start up a flame when my eyebrows are so heavy that I
>>>>> can't join in!
>>>>> Or... well, if you can keep it ut till tomorrow I'll be fine :)
>>>
>>>> Ooh if I wait till tomorrow, will you help me start a flame with Mr G
>>>> about his confessions? heh
>>>> ;)
>>>
>>> LOL, sure, I'll be there asking and asking, let's cook this Mr G low &
>>> slow southern style

>>
>> Well whatever floats yer boat:)

>
> Goddam it, we're suppose to be talking about Julie and her stuff. This is
> rec.food.cooking, not rec.stuff-other-than-julie.cooking. Wise up!


Sorreeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, it has now turned into not
rec.stuff-other-than-gtr.cooking. Aren't you a lucky boy ;)

See! Your moment of fame is here at last!!!

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Ophelia[_11_] 21-11-2013 10:47 AM

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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message

> Whoever posted that is in my KF most likely. I do like soda pop. Only
> diet. Debatable as to whether or not it is good for us. But I don't
> drink, smoke, do drugs and most of the time don't even eat sugar so...
> That is one of my pleasures.
>
> As for the Cheese Nips, I might eat them if I could have dairy. Don't
> know. Not really sure I have ever eaten them as I don't normally eat
> crackers. But why not get them and donate them? They were free! Of couse
> I do donate other things when I can afford to do so. Right now I just
> can't afford it for various reasons. Christmas and birthdays being one of
> them.


Taken no notice Julie. Your money, your choice :))))

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