On 9/21/2013 11:19 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
snip
>
> If you like fresh gound, you'll love fresh roasted. The usual time
> frames cited for shelf life a
>
> Ground - 4-7 days
> Roasted - 2-4 weeks
> Green - 6-12 months
>
> If you can justify the shiipping cost, which is usually pretty easy to
> do because the coffee itself is so inexpensive, buy your roasted coffee
> online. Most places will receive you order 1 day, roast it the next,
> and ship it the next. It makes a _huge_ difference, IMHO. Two places I
> like are
>
> http://www.sweetmarias.com/index.php - mostly a source of green beans
> for us although they do roast
>
> http://www.coffeebeandirect.com - mostly a source of roasted coffee for
> us but we do buy green from them, too.
>
> -S-
>
Roasting beans is gonna be too much for me, just hope to find
some verified roasted on date.

On 9/21/2013 7:51 PM, mawil1013 wrote:

>> If you can justify the shiipping cost, which is usually pretty easy to
>> do because the coffee itself is so inexpensive, buy your roasted coffee
>> online. Most places will receive you order 1 day, roast it the next,
>> and ship it the next. It makes a _huge_ difference, IMHO. Two places I
>> like are
>>
>> http://www.sweetmarias.com/index.php - mostly a source of green beans
>> for us although they do roast
>>
>> http://www.coffeebeandirect.com - mostly a source of roasted coffee for
>> us but we do buy green from them, too.
>>
>> -S-
>>
> Roasting beans is gonna be too much for me, just hope to find
> some verified roasted on date.

May be difficult to find in stores unless it is a specialty shop with
high turnover. Easy to do on line. Try Steve's sources or these guys
http://www.lacolombe.com/
Probably many others too.

On 9/21/2013 9:07 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/21/2013 7:51 PM, mawil1013 wrote:
>
>>> If you can justify the shiipping cost, which is usually pretty easy to
>>> do because the coffee itself is so inexpensive, buy your roasted coffee
>>> online. Most places will receive you order 1 day, roast it the next,
>>> and ship it the next. It makes a _huge_ difference, IMHO. Two places I
>>> like are
>>>
>>> http://www.sweetmarias.com/index.php - mostly a source of green beans
>>> for us although they do roast
>>>
>>> http://www.coffeebeandirect.com - mostly a source of roasted coffee for
>>> us but we do buy green from them, too.
>>>
>>> -S-
>>>
>> Roasting beans is gonna be too much for me, just hope to find
>> some verified roasted on date.
>
> May be difficult to find in stores unless it is a specialty shop with
> high turnover. Easy to do on line. Try Steve's sources or these guys
> http://www.lacolombe.com/
> Probably many others too.
>
An interesting website but at $12 plus shipping too steep for my pocket
book! I'm hoping to find a decent seller in these parts. There is a
young couple with a coffee shop in my town I have to drop in and ask
what they have available.

On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 21:42:30 -0400, mawil1013 > wrote:



>>
>> May be difficult to find in stores unless it is a specialty shop with
>> high turnover. Easy to do on line. Try Steve's sources or these guys
>> http://www.lacolombe.com/
>> Probably many others too.
>>
>An interesting website but at $12 plus shipping too steep for my pocket
>book! I'm hoping to find a decent seller in these parts. There is a
>young couple with a coffee shop in my town I have to drop in and ask
>what they have available.

To keep shipping costs minimal, I buy three at a time. They often have
specials too, saving 10% to 20%. I can get coffee from a nearby
roaster and not pay shipping, but it is a 65 mile round trip making
UPS seem cheap. 2 1/2 gallons of gas = $9.25 + normal wear and tear.
Unless I'm going to that area anyway, then I stop in.

Consider it for a special treat sometime and see if it is worth the
extra cost.

On 9/23/2013 11:05 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
snip
>
> Consider it for a special treat sometime and see if it is worth the
> extra cost.
>

I'll do that, I read about some of the different tastes and it is
intriguing. What would be nice would be a sampler, for sure the day will
come. I made contact with the local coffee shop, local young people
running it. They do sell beans too. Saturday I'm going there to see what
they have.

On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 21:42:30 -0400, mawil1013 > wrote:

>On 9/21/2013 9:07 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 9/21/2013 7:51 PM, mawil1013 wrote:
>>
>>>> If you can justify the shiipping cost, which is usually pretty easy to
>>>> do because the coffee itself is so inexpensive, buy your roasted coffee
>>>> online. Most places will receive you order 1 day, roast it the next,
>>>> and ship it the next. It makes a _huge_ difference, IMHO. Two places I
>>>> like are
>>>>
>>>> http://www.sweetmarias.com/index.php - mostly a source of green beans
>>>> for us although they do roast
>>>>
>>>> http://www.coffeebeandirect.com - mostly a source of roasted coffee for
>>>> us but we do buy green from them, too.
>>>>
>>>> -S-
>>>>
>>> Roasting beans is gonna be too much for me, just hope to find
>>> some verified roasted on date.
>>
>> May be difficult to find in stores unless it is a specialty shop with
>> high turnover. Easy to do on line. Try Steve's sources or these guys
>> http://www.lacolombe.com/
>> Probably many others too.
>>
>An interesting website but at $12 plus shipping too steep for my pocket
>book! I'm hoping to find a decent seller in these parts. There is a
>young couple with a coffee shop in my town I have to drop in and ask
>what they have available.

As an independent US coffee farmer- it costs more than $11 just to
get coffee ready to sell to you. Fertilizer,careful bug spraying
within US regulations, picking, processing in clean water and sun
dried. USDA regulations which we are happy to adhere to, insure YOU
are getting what you assume you are getting as in all US food
products.

I remember from eons ago, a farmer from South Africa telling us what
he used as a pesticide- which had long been on the Prohibited use in
the US- but it kept his cost down. One guy and hundreds of acres-
could do it.

Choose an unknown with all its ramifications OR get a US farmer's
compliance with all regs- which probably costs more.

End of my (US!) rant Please just accept it as the plight of the US
farmer vs. 3rd world farmers.
aloha,
Cea

On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 17:15:54 -1000, pure kona
> wrote:



>>An interesting website but at $12 plus shipping too steep for my pocket
>>book! I'm hoping to find a decent seller in these parts. There is a
>>young couple with a coffee shop in my town I have to drop in and ask
>>what they have available.
>
>As an independent US coffee farmer- it costs more than $11 just to
>get coffee ready to sell to you. Fertilizer,careful bug spraying
>within US regulations, picking, processing in clean water and sun
>dried. USDA regulations which we are happy to adhere to, insure YOU
>are getting what you assume you are getting as in all US food
>products.
>
> I remember from eons ago, a farmer from South Africa telling us what
>he used as a pesticide- which had long been on the Prohibited use in
>the US- but it kept his cost down. One guy and hundreds of acres-
>could do it.
>
>Choose an unknown with all its ramifications OR get a US farmer's
>compliance with all regs- which probably costs more.
>
>End of my (US!) rant Please just accept it as the plight of the US
>farmer vs. 3rd world farmers.
>aloha,
>Cea

I've not tracked these things, but I recall coffee being very
expensive a few years (15 to 20?) back. Then the price seemed to
either come down or at least hold when everything else was going up.
Coffee today for the mass market seems fairly cheap even if it is only
11 ounces to the pound can. You can buy coffee in the fast food
places and convenience stores, any size for a $1. They can only do
that with cheap ingredients.

Much of our food supply is now coming from third word counties and
yes, I'm skeptical of the quality. The farms cannot be well policed
even where regulations do exist. I think your situation is just like
manufacturing in the US. Our regulations for pollution and safety are
vastly stronger (and more costly) than most other countries. Many, if
not most, consumers in this country put cheap ahead of value and buy
by price.

It would be nice to get the word out to support the American coffee
farmer. I bet many of us don't even know they exist.

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 06:13:47 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 17:15:54 -1000, pure kona
> wrote:
>
>

>I've not tracked these things, but I recall coffee being very
>expensive a few years (15 to 20?) back. Then the price seemed to
>either come down or at least hold when everything else was going up.
>Coffee today for the mass market seems fairly cheap even if it is only
>11 ounces to the pound can. You can buy coffee in the fast food
>places and convenience stores, any size for a $1. They can only do
>that with cheap ingredients.
>
>Much of our food supply is now coming from third word counties and
>yes, I'm skeptical of the quality. The farms cannot be well policed
>even where regulations do exist. I think your situation is just like
>manufacturing in the US. Our regulations for pollution and safety are
>vastly stronger (and more costly) than most other countries. Many, if
>not most, consumers in this country put cheap ahead of value and buy
>by price.
>
>It would be nice to get the word out to support the American coffee
>farmer. I bet many of us don't even know they exist.

Thanks Ed. I agree with you. Most people want cheap. And yet some of
those same people have no qualms buying something at *$ for several
dollars but "good American coffee" can be had, including shipping for
less than a dollar-if you make it at home. Weird.

Again, our US government regulations keep us all safer and yes, it
does cost something to use higher quality materials from A to Z and to
have someone checking that it happens correctly. Oh well.

Thanks.

aloha,
Cea

On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:34:21 GMT, "l not -l" > wrote:

>
>On 25-Sep-2013, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> It would be nice to get the word out to support the American coffee
>> farmer. I bet many of us don't even know they exist.
>Do they grow anything but Kona? I do not care for the taste of any Kona
>I have ever had and, I have had it a number of times, from a number of
>sources - I simply don't enjoy its flavor. If limited to only Kona,
>American coffee is of little interest to me.

Well, I don't know how to answer you. Not "like" the taste of Kona?
With over 600 farms, there are probably 600 tastes available.

If you prefer something like a "Breakfast Blend" from XYZ and some do-
Kona with its mild and aromatic flavors may not be your choice. That's
okay. There isn't much Kona anyway.

aloha,
Cea

mawil1013 wrote:
> On 9/21/2013 9:07 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 9/21/2013 7:51 PM, mawil1013 wrote:
>>
>>>> If you can justify the shiipping cost, which is usually pretty
>>>> easy to do because the coffee itself is so inexpensive, buy your
>>>> roasted coffee online. Most places will receive you order 1 day,
>>>> roast it the next, and ship it the next. It makes a _huge_
>>>> difference, IMHO. Two places I like are
>>>>
>>>> http://www.sweetmarias.com/index.php - mostly a source of green
>>>> beans for us although they do roast
>>>>
>>>> http://www.coffeebeandirect.com - mostly a source of roasted
>>>> coffee for us but we do buy green from them, too.
>>>>
>>>> -S-
>>>>
>>> Roasting beans is gonna be too much for me, just hope to find
>>> some verified roasted on date.
>>
>> May be difficult to find in stores unless it is a specialty shop with
>> high turnover. Easy to do on line. Try Steve's sources or these
>> guys http://www.lacolombe.com/
>> Probably many others too.
>>
> An interesting website but at $12 plus shipping too steep for my
> pocket book! I'm hoping to find a decent seller in these parts.
> There is a young couple with a coffee shop in my town I have to drop
> in and ask what they have available.

When I buy from Sweet Marias, which I do regularly, I have them ship
Priority Mail, and they've told me they can put 11 lbs of coffee beans
in a single Flat Rate box that costs $11 to ship - so the math is
simple: whenever I order 11 lbs. of coffee, shipping adds $1 per pound
to the price. Since the green beans I buy run about $6 per pound, I'm
still _way_ ahead of grocery store or specialty shop prices.

-S-

On 9/24/13 9:42 AM, Steve Freides wrote:

> When I buy from Sweet Marias, which I do regularly, I have them ship
> Priority Mail, and they've told me they can put 11 lbs of coffee beans
> in a single Flat Rate box that costs $11 to ship....

$16.85 now -- better adjust those pricing totals! 8

-- Larry

pltrgyst wrote:
> On 9/24/13 9:42 AM, Steve Freides wrote:
>
>> When I buy from Sweet Marias, which I do regularly, I have them ship
>> Priority Mail, and they've told me they can put 11 lbs of coffee
>> beans in a single Flat Rate box that costs $11 to ship....
>
> $16.85 now -- better adjust those pricing totals! 8
>
> -- Larry

I got coffee from them not more than a week or two ago - was $11
shipping. Let me go see if I saved the invoice ... Here you go, email
is from Sept. 8, 2013

ItemSkuQtySubtotal
Sweet Marias Liquid Amber Espresso Blend - 10 lbs3092-101$53.95
Sweet Maria's New Classic Espresso - 1 lbs2933-11$6.50
Subtotal$60.45
Shipping$11.30
Grand Total$71.75

That's $11.30 shipping for 11 pounds of coffee.

-S-