On 18/06/2013 11:57 AM, Broadback wrote:
> It will not be long before raspberries are here (UK). Other years I have
> frozen them, but to be honest I have got a bit fed up with raspberries.
> So this year I thought I'd use some for jam. What is a good recipe? is
> the jam difficult to set?
>
If you buy a commercial pectin it probably has the recipe, and raspberry
is one of the easiest because you don't need to do anything to the fruit
other tan pick out any stems or leaves in the basket. Sterilize the
jars,tops and equipment. Mix the fruit and sugar, bring it to a
rolling boil on high heat, stirring very frequently. Boil it for a
minute or so, as per pectin instructions, which may be to add it before
it boils or after. Pour the hot jam into the jars and seal.

On 2013-06-18, Dave Smith > wrote:
> On 18/06/2013 11:57 AM, Broadback wrote:
>> It will not be long before raspberries are here (UK). Other years I have
>> frozen them, but to be honest I have got a bit fed up with raspberries.
>> So this year I thought I'd use some for jam. What is a good recipe? is
>> the jam difficult to set?
>>
> If you buy a commercial pectin it probably has the recipe, and raspberry
> is one of the easiest because you don't need to do anything to the fruit
> other tan pick out any stems or leaves in the basket.

Put the lotion in the basket.....

....jes kidding. Seriously, why do companies that produce commercial
blackberry jam take all the seeds out, but leave all the seeds in
raspberry jam? I jes bought a jar of raspberry jam for my mom and the
damn thing has almost more seeds than jam. I protest!! I hate
raspberry and love blackberry and seeds, yet every brand of blackberry
jam on the mkt shelf is "seedless". WTF!! Is this some kinda world
wide plot against notbob?

nb

On 6/24/2013 2:11 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2013-06-18, Dave Smith > wrote:
>> On 18/06/2013 11:57 AM, Broadback wrote:
>>> It will not be long before raspberries are here (UK). Other years I have
>>> frozen them, but to be honest I have got a bit fed up with raspberries.
>>> So this year I thought I'd use some for jam. What is a good recipe? is
>>> the jam difficult to set?
>>>
>> If you buy a commercial pectin it probably has the recipe, and raspberry
>> is one of the easiest because you don't need to do anything to the fruit
>> other tan pick out any stems or leaves in the basket.
>
> Put the lotion in the basket.....
>
> ....jes kidding. Seriously, why do companies that produce commercial
> blackberry jam take all the seeds out, but leave all the seeds in
> raspberry jam? I jes bought a jar of raspberry jam for my mom and the
> damn thing has almost more seeds than jam. I protest!! I hate
> raspberry and love blackberry and seeds, yet every brand of blackberry
> jam on the mkt shelf is "seedless". WTF!! Is this some kinda world
> wide plot against notbob?
>

I suppose it's what you are used to. I've always preferred raspberry jam
with seeds and blackberry without. I guess that's also how my mother
used to make it and among the few things I remember liking about her
cooking :-)


--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

> Seriously, why do companies that produce commercial
> blackberry jam take all the seeds out, but leave all the seeds in
> raspberry jam?....

Not all do. The Publix raspberry jam is seedless, and is one of the best
I have ever tasted.

-- Larry

On 6/24/2013 12:11 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2013-06-18, Dave Smith > wrote:
>> On 18/06/2013 11:57 AM, Broadback wrote:
>>> It will not be long before raspberries are here (UK). Other years I have
>>> frozen them, but to be honest I have got a bit fed up with raspberries.
>>> So this year I thought I'd use some for jam. What is a good recipe? is
>>> the jam difficult to set?
>>>
>> If you buy a commercial pectin it probably has the recipe, and raspberry
>> is one of the easiest because you don't need to do anything to the fruit
>> other tan pick out any stems or leaves in the basket.
>
> Put the lotion in the basket.....
>
> ....jes kidding. Seriously, why do companies that produce commercial
> blackberry jam take all the seeds out, but leave all the seeds in
> raspberry jam? I jes bought a jar of raspberry jam for my mom and the
> damn thing has almost more seeds than jam. I protest!! I hate
> raspberry and love blackberry and seeds, yet every brand of blackberry
> jam on the mkt shelf is "seedless". WTF!! Is this some kinda world
> wide plot against notbob?
>
> nb
>
>
>
I think they must be in league with the pulpless orange juice consortium...

On 24 Jun 2013 18:11:45 GMT, notbob > wrote:

>On 2013-06-18, Dave Smith > wrote:
>> On 18/06/2013 11:57 AM, Broadback wrote:
>>> It will not be long before raspberries are here (UK). Other years I have
>>> frozen them, but to be honest I have got a bit fed up with raspberries.
>>> So this year I thought I'd use some for jam. What is a good recipe? is
>>> the jam difficult to set?
>>>
>> If you buy a commercial pectin it probably has the recipe, and raspberry
>> is one of the easiest because you don't need to do anything to the fruit
>> other tan pick out any stems or leaves in the basket.
>
>Put the lotion in the basket.....
>
> ....jes kidding. Seriously, why do companies that produce commercial
>blackberry jam take all the seeds out, but leave all the seeds in
>raspberry jam? I jes bought a jar of raspberry jam for my mom and the
>damn thing has almost more seeds than jam. I protest!! I hate
>raspberry and love blackberry and seeds, yet every brand of blackberry
>jam on the mkt shelf is "seedless". WTF!! Is this some kinda world
>wide plot against notbob?

Don't be so darned paranoid...

Red raspberry jam is readily available commercially both with seeds
and seedless. However blackberries and black raspberries are
different fruit and it's rare to find black raspberry jam
commercially. Blackberry seeds are about twice the size of red
raspberry seeds, and are typically woody so need to be strained.
Unlike red raspberries black raspberries when picked retain their stem
so also need to be strained.
http://www.differencebetween.net/obj...ack-raspberry/

On 24/06/2013 2:11 PM, notbob wrote:

>> If you buy a commercial pectin it probably has the recipe, and raspberry
>> is one of the easiest because you don't need to do anything to the fruit
>> other tan pick out any stems or leaves in the basket.
>
> Put the lotion in the basket.....
>
> ....jes kidding. Seriously, why do companies that produce commercial
> blackberry jam take all the seeds out, but leave all the seeds in
> raspberry jam? I jes bought a jar of raspberry jam for my mom and the
> damn thing has almost more seeds than jam. I protest!! I hate
> raspberry and love blackberry and seeds, yet every brand of blackberry
> jam on the mkt shelf is "seedless". WTF!! Is this some kinda world
> wide plot against notbob?



I am the other way around. I don't mind raspberry seeds because they are
small and innocuous. Blackberry seeds, OTOH, are sometimes huge and
troublesome.

On 2013-06-24, Dave Smith > wrote:

> I am the other way around. I don't mind raspberry seeds because they are
> small and innocuous. Blackberry seeds, OTOH, are sometimes huge and
> troublesome.

Perhaps it's as simple as that. I will confess, I got my very first
tooth crown thanks to a blackberry seed. I was munching a Hostess
Berry Pie (when they were still huge) and suddenly, a big chunk of
back tooth molar was rattling around in my mouth. I spit it out and
knew immediately what it was.

When I finally went to the dentist, I ask why a such a young strong
tooth (I was only 22) would give way like that, do I have rotten
teeth. He said no, but sometime things like this jes happen. When
someone chews ice, nuts, "blackberries", etc, the mouth exerts so much
pressure that in a freak situation all that overall pressure may be
inadvertantly concentrated on a single small point --like a blackberry
seed-- and magnified ten fold, thus easily shearing off a section of
healthy tooth like it was nothing. I had not told him I was eating a
blackberry pie when my tooth gave way. Live and learn.

I've since learned how to chew blackberries, as I love all
black/marion/ollalie berries. I've never suffered another tooth
incident and I still love the seeds. Which, btw, are quite rich in
omega-3 oils. Safeway Select house brand and a few obscure boutique
offerings are the only blackberry jams/preserves I'm aware of that
still includes the seeds.

nb